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15-07 The big breakup
Author: Smurfje
Last updated: 1347d 15h 57m 16s ago by Hyobanshi
Comments: 230
Views: 32,713
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Version: 5.24
Involved families: Andronova, Ilteber, Marazzino, Penta, Pentagram, Thelastdance, Tld, Batavia, Outsiders, Reganto
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A long speculated breakup between the 4 major fams working closely and successfully since the start of the version.

Andronova and Penta are shooting Batavia and Reganto.

Lastdance and Ilteber have also joined the attacker side.

Update: Few days into the prolonged war the Admins decide to step in and down the Penta family for breaking the sister family rule.

Update:
Outsiders family seems to be shooting at Penta/Pentagram.
Reganto was hijacked.
statistics
War started on: 16:07:03 15-07-2020 War ended on: 15:29:10 20-07-2020
Bullet difference: -21,020,939 War duration: 4d 23h 22m
Money difference: -$1,164,487,939 Players died: 445




deaths
Dead Families:
[Reganto] Family down on 04:04 20-07
[Penta] Family down on 10:50 18-07
[Andronova] Family down on 08:07 17-07
[Thelastdance] Family down on 06:10 16-07
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Andronova | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 22 | cd: 2 | gf: 2 | points: 397
Batavia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 5 | brug: 27 | cd: 2 | gf: 1 | points: 467
Ilteber | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 26
Marazzino | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 26
Outsiders | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Penta | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 0 | brug: 48 | cd: 2 | gf: 3 | points: 785
Pentagram | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 12 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 156
Reganto | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 2 | chief: 3 | brug: 69 | cd: 1 | gf: 2 | points: 1,023
Thelastdance | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 13 | cd: 2 | gf: 1 | points: 250
Total | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 6 | chief: 8 | brug: 196 | cd: 9 | gf: 9 | points: 3,143
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Anonymous (15:43:18 - 18-07)
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Anonymous at 15:41:27 on 18/07:
Maybe the admins saw that the game was dying off so figured they could get a few more donate code sales by killing off Penta for a rule that would see a lot of familys punished as what happens when a fam is downed suddenly all the ranks are taken in by a friendly family, this would be a breach of the sister family rule in the admins eyes.

I think you misunderstand both the rules and why they were taken down. This was the correct move. I have no interest in either side.
Anonymous (15:41:27 - 18-07)
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Maybe the admins saw that the game was dying off so figured they could get a few more donate code sales by killing off Penta for a rule that would see a lot of familys punished as what happens when a fam is downed suddenly all the ranks are taken in by a friendly family, this would be a breach of the sister family rule in the admins eyes.
Anonymous (15:26:07 - 18-07)
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Anonymous at 13:50:38 on 18/07:
If admins conclude some fams are sister fams, there is no merging, no "now they are merged and it's within the rules" By being a sister fam, both fams break the rules and both fams should be downed and tops akilled. End of story.

If you are in that PoV, its till dumb to down the merge family. Its too late, if admins determined these fams were sisters they should have downed each of them long ago. Merged family by technicality can't be sister
Boleone Serbia (15:13:44 - 18-07)
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Squating slavs rule \o/

Anyway...

It's ultra hard to create rules in a mafia game... Mafia themselves went that way because they don't want to play by the rules... To some people pacting is interesting and winning like that version after version. To some it is bot. Given that this is a game, I'm looking forward to see new 1-on-1 war system... It's going to bring a new joy into the game.. For example, something that Krays did for themselves early in this version..

Anonymous (15:03:46 - 18-07)
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Anonymous at 13:50:38 on 18/07:
If admins conclude some fams are sister fams, there is no merging, no "now they are merged and it's within the rules" By being a sister fam, both fams break the rules and both fams should be downed and tops akilled. End of story.

Family made it by people, and admins punish "family" not people who make that family. That says enough about admins and policy. They just want more money from people. If someone break the rule, that is player with account, it is not family. So punish that players, who make that, not family. This game goes nowhere. Admins see that is game locked, and dont doing anything. They did not announce lockdown, and now they will let to 2 families to dictate this game.
Critycal Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Patron (14:44:38 - 18-07)
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Kapow at 13:49:32 on 18/07:
Solstice at 13:47:35 on 18/07:
Kapow at 13:41:25 on 18/07:
Solstice at 13:29:56 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 13:28:21 on 18/07:
For another example when Penta fucked Kapow's kebab fam in a hour they are all runned to Reganto. Why it isn't counted sister fam? Kapowsky still in Reganto. :DDD

So salty.
But have you taken into consideration that yo momma is a hoe?

You'd better watch out, she's not above coming to greece and whooping your ass.
Invalid cuck, i was talking to the Anon. Although yo momma is a world recognized hoe also. Greece is the best Macedonia xD
Calm down you slavic monkey
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (13:52:46 - 18-07)
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Solstice at 13:51:16 on 18/07:
Kapow at 13:49:32 on 18/07:
Solstice at 13:47:35 on 18/07:
Kapow at 13:41:25 on 18/07:
Solstice at 13:29:56 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 13:28:21 on 18/07:
For another example when Penta fucked Kapow's kebab fam in a hour they are all runned to Reganto. Why it isn't counted sister fam? Kapowsky still in Reganto. :DDD

So salty.
But have you taken into consideration that yo momma is a hoe?

You'd better watch out, she's not above coming to greece and whooping your ass.
Invalid cuck, i was talking to the Anon. Although yo momma is a world recognized hoe also. Greece is the best Macedonia xD

Maybe respond to him then instead of me? Fucking third-world inbred mongrel.

Can't expect that much from a third worlder, mate.
Solstice (13:51:16 - 18-07)
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Kapow at 13:49:32 on 18/07:
Solstice at 13:47:35 on 18/07:
Kapow at 13:41:25 on 18/07:
Solstice at 13:29:56 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 13:28:21 on 18/07:
For another example when Penta fucked Kapow's kebab fam in a hour they are all runned to Reganto. Why it isn't counted sister fam? Kapowsky still in Reganto. :DDD

So salty.
But have you taken into consideration that yo momma is a hoe?

You'd better watch out, she's not above coming to greece and whooping your ass.
Invalid cuck, i was talking to the Anon. Although yo momma is a world recognized hoe also. Greece is the best Macedonia xD

Maybe respond to him then instead of me? Fucking third-world inbred mongrel.
Anonymous (13:50:38 - 18-07)
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If admins conclude some fams are sister fams, there is no merging, no "now they are merged and it's within the rules" By being a sister fam, both fams break the rules and both fams should be downed and tops akilled. End of story.
Kapow Greenland Patron (13:49:32 - 18-07)
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Solstice at 13:47:35 on 18/07:
Kapow at 13:41:25 on 18/07:
Solstice at 13:29:56 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 13:28:21 on 18/07:
For another example when Penta fucked Kapow's kebab fam in a hour they are all runned to Reganto. Why it isn't counted sister fam? Kapowsky still in Reganto. :DDD

So salty.
But have you taken into consideration that yo momma is a hoe?

You'd better watch out, she's not above coming to greece and whooping your ass.
Invalid cuck, i was talking to the Anon. Although yo momma is a world recognized hoe also. Greece is the best Macedonia xD
Solstice (13:47:35 - 18-07)
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Kapow at 13:41:25 on 18/07:
Solstice at 13:29:56 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 13:28:21 on 18/07:
For another example when Penta fucked Kapow's kebab fam in a hour they are all runned to Reganto. Why it isn't counted sister fam? Kapowsky still in Reganto. :DDD

So salty.
But have you taken into consideration that yo momma is a hoe?

You'd better watch out, she's not above coming to greece and whooping your ass.
Anonymous (13:40:35 - 18-07)
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Bit l8 downing penta but finally. They had capos in alatriste when they got akill for being sister with unexpected. So spot benefits in other fam... :w
Anonymous (13:40:35 - 18-07)
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Anonymous at 12:33:26 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 12:30:04 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 12:24:59 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 12:12:57 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 12:03:39 on 18/07:
A sister is:
- An extra family that is under control of the same top;
To benefit from spots in another city
To get more promoted accounts (bruglione+)
- To avoid the main family getting downed because of a too high amount of akills
- To move completely from one city to another in case of war (main family needs to be down in the same day)

Which one Penta did break?
"To get more promoted accounts (bruglione+)." - This one at the very least.

Additionally, Andronova went down with 100+ brugs alive. Instead of restarting they all went to Pentagram so did Lastdance with over 30+ brugs alive.

There were no strategic play here this was just all going to one family to close the version together. Therefore they became sister fams and are now downed.

Lets not forget that Andronova was also a merge between 2 families + Aeterna and Leviticus.

Overall downing Penta was not a stretch or some bending of rules. Lets not forget Ilteber is a sister family also.


Then it should have been downed long time ago. Not now, and reasoning clearly talks about merge. Not the things you said.

Andronova LD and Penta were each different family. Tops clearly knew each other and took same sides on war. But people in those family didn't know each other mostly new recruits. Each had differetn channel for communications.

Merge by its definition can't be sister family, that is what I am saying is wrong. Alatriste and Unexpected may be sisters (I would argue not but its a long time since that and won't discuss more) so they can be downed. But when they merged as Andronova it can't be a sister family now. It is the correct way to go from start.

"There were no strategic play here this was just all going to one family to close the version together. Therefore they became sister fams and are now downed."

It wasn't intentional, Batavia downed LD and famless Anarchy hijacked Andronova. So during war as a pact they took refuge in Pentagram, only family standing. It wasn't one of our intentions to merge. During war it was done to recollect people, starting a new family was possibility too but harder to grind Family capacity to get everyone back. Since every family does this when they get downed in wars there shouldn't be problem, only ours was larger in numbers and it pulled more attention.

Also last version 3 families merged and got HOF at the end of the version. So if crew does anything it is inconsistent.

Also even if we were all sisters, merge was the correct move. Merge doesn't have an advantage it is the default way to go. Just like how it happened with Alatriste and Unexpected, Crew deemed them as sisters, downed them a merge happened and now its correct with the rules. So even if Penta LD and Andronova was sisters, they merged and it is correct with rules

You showed your face with your last sentences “even if we were sisters”. Go get a life you lame bastard ;d

I am talking about different POV's you retard. I don't think it was ever sister, but even if you think they were sisters, merge is the correct move, it shouldn't be punished. If punishment was necessary it should have been done long time ago. Its incompetence of Crew. They don't type the rules clearly, they don't uphold the written rules fairly and they are always late.

Sorry, but in this case you are wrong, and admins did correctly. I am not invested in either side. I understand the dissapointment though, but correct move from admins.
Anonymous (13:39:50 - 18-07)
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SO EASY

Thelastdance is down after andronova (alatriste+unexpected) killed from hijack after all acc is with PENTA ... woaw woaw this is so so big surprise and after we say to goodbye to PENTA (akill)
Anonymous (13:35:49 - 18-07)
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Solstice at 13:29:56 on 18/07:
Anonymous at 13:28:21 on 18/07:
For another example when Penta fucked Kapow's kebab fam in a hour they are all runned to Reganto. Why it isn't counted sister fam? Kapowsky still in Reganto. :DDD

So salty.

You can check Reganto Family Changelog. Its start after 17:42:52 22/06. I dont see any difference
Anonymous (13:35:16 - 18-07)
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Anonymous at 12:43:47 on 18/07:
Then Reganto and Batavia are sisters too
+1 rules need to be much clearer. if fam die, youre not allowed to join a blood fam.
Solstice (13:29:56 - 18-07)
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Anonymous at 13:28:21 on 18/07:
For another example when Penta fucked Kapow's kebab fam in a hour they are all runned to Reganto. Why it isn't counted sister fam? Kapowsky still in Reganto. :DDD

So salty.
Anonymous (13:28:21 - 18-07)
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For another example when Penta fucked Kapow's kebab fam in a hour they are all runned to Reganto. Why it isn't counted sister fam? Kapowsky still in Reganto. :DDD
Anonymous (13:18:17 - 18-07)
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asadasadasadasadasada

all sisters is outside ... ALL PENTA are so big cheaters ... who killed by penta admins must give back to ALL ACC ....
Anonymous (13:14:42 - 18-07)
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Admins are really worthless. They are meeting regularly about how to fuck this game and they managed it. Most important thing is bulletprices. They made this game p2w. Casinos don't work properlybecause of this stupid gambling office spot. When poker spots are bankrupt, they don't shot down poker tables. But casinos??? So only way to make money is dc.
After that, these stupid restrictions. They don't know "what is sis fam" "what is blood".

Btw I have to say first, I don't have any problem with any families. Batavia and Reganto fought well. I respect that. But what's the differencebbetween "Batavia-Reganto" and "Penta-Andronova-Lastdance"? Batavia couldn't breathe without Reganto's permission. But they are still alive???!!! How the fuck is that?

For conclusion, admins aren't fair. Maybe they were never be. Only thing I wanted is dont buy donation codes for 2 versions. Dont make these fuckers rich