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Bugs Bugs Bugs?!
We just saw a few akills, which downed Righelli & Lucchese. So OBN started investigating what happened, speaking with some people to find out exactly what happpened.
A Top from a an unnamed family told OBN that he abused several bugs in Omerta. He only told Beyond about 2 in specific, but there are way and way more he told us. But these are the most used.
1. Bloodbank bug → When you have for example 99% health and you would go to the bloodbank and add the following DOM value in the input field "100e-2" you would end up with 199% health!
Here we have to ask, how long is this going on? Are there more families who knew about this? And what if they had all their members at 199% health, they just wouldn't be able to be brought down. I think of yesterdays war where tops of the attacking families state that Righelli highranks for example just didn't die. Same goes for countering families that said it was impossible to kill Messina accounts, while Messina was an agressor in the war, thus needing to have attack BG setups.
We have no proof here, but these are our first thoughts of course. We are not pointing any fingers!
2. Hitlist bug → So you want to hitlist a person but you don't have the required money? Another simple solution! If you would fill out "100e+6" in the input field you would hitlist a person for $100 million omerta dollars and it would only cost you $100 omerta dollars. Sounds like a fair deal to me!
We saw a lot of Messina people who got hitlisted a few days ago, and i think opponents of Messina may have used this bug to hitlist them.
Update: Some reporters saw, especially this version, rather weird bumps of money ingame. It was suddenly way higher than it ever was. An abuser explained to us how they did this.
They looked for a target, when they found him, they put this person on the hitlist and shot inmediatly. → free money!
Update²: If this is possible in the input fields at the Hitlist and the Bloodbank. Is it also possible to fill these codes in at all other input fields? If this is true it would mean that every aspect with an input field of the game could be abused by this bug. SH Time, Bullets used to shoot, Gambling, EVERYTHING.
We recieve images and logs from everyone that the bugs are also used to get extra RP and more bullets from the local factory then allowed.
A anonymous person showed me he bought 1337 units of beer as swindler and gained about 30% rank progess!
Another showed an image where he bought 10.000 bullets from the local factory. → http://i46.tinypic.com/2d7wqix.png
Should we start doubting at omerta and the "winners" of omerta the last few versions?
Lance Armstrong came clean yesterday, he told Oprah he used forbidden substitutes to perfom better and win the Tour de France. Did certain families also used these "methodes/substitutes" to win a version? or came out as winner in certain wars?
We just saw a few akills, which downed Righelli & Lucchese. So OBN started investigating what happened, speaking with some people to find out exactly what happpened.
A Top from a an unnamed family told OBN that he abused several bugs in Omerta. He only told Beyond about 2 in specific, but there are way and way more he told us. But these are the most used.
1. Bloodbank bug → When you have for example 99% health and you would go to the bloodbank and add the following DOM value in the input field "100e-2" you would end up with 199% health!
Here we have to ask, how long is this going on? Are there more families who knew about this? And what if they had all their members at 199% health, they just wouldn't be able to be brought down. I think of yesterdays war where tops of the attacking families state that Righelli highranks for example just didn't die. Same goes for countering families that said it was impossible to kill Messina accounts, while Messina was an agressor in the war, thus needing to have attack BG setups.
We have no proof here, but these are our first thoughts of course. We are not pointing any fingers!
2. Hitlist bug → So you want to hitlist a person but you don't have the required money? Another simple solution! If you would fill out "100e+6" in the input field you would hitlist a person for $100 million omerta dollars and it would only cost you $100 omerta dollars. Sounds like a fair deal to me!
We saw a lot of Messina people who got hitlisted a few days ago, and i think opponents of Messina may have used this bug to hitlist them.
Update: Some reporters saw, especially this version, rather weird bumps of money ingame. It was suddenly way higher than it ever was. An abuser explained to us how they did this.
They looked for a target, when they found him, they put this person on the hitlist and shot inmediatly. → free money!
Update²: If this is possible in the input fields at the Hitlist and the Bloodbank. Is it also possible to fill these codes in at all other input fields? If this is true it would mean that every aspect with an input field of the game could be abused by this bug. SH Time, Bullets used to shoot, Gambling, EVERYTHING.
We recieve images and logs from everyone that the bugs are also used to get extra RP and more bullets from the local factory then allowed.
A anonymous person showed me he bought 1337 units of beer as swindler and gained about 30% rank progess!
Another showed an image where he bought 10.000 bullets from the local factory. → http://i46.tinypic.com/2d7wqix.png
Should we start doubting at omerta and the "winners" of omerta the last few versions?
Lance Armstrong came clean yesterday, he told Oprah he used forbidden substitutes to perfom better and win the Tour de France. Did certain families also used these "methodes/substitutes" to win a version? or came out as winner in certain wars?
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/q sbanks | #beyond.info
statistics
| War started on: 14:49:02 18-01-2013 | War ended on: 15:01:00 18-01-2013 |
| Bullet difference: -1,481,519 | War duration: 11m |
| Money difference: -$1,065,804,084 | Players died: 19 |
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Anonymous (16:47:16 - 18-01)
Anonymous (16:47:02 - 18-01)
Johnny at 16:31:49 on 18/01:
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
I know they had a bug running past few versions. Well one certain top had, and he provided money to all the "top rankers/players" in Messina like Profestum. I don't know whether he used this hitlist bug or something else. But 90%+ have either bugs or dupes they abuse. So to argue finger point about that is pointless. Deal with it or stop playing.
Anonymous at 16:43:14 on 18/01:
Well, teh hitlist cheat has very concrete effect on the game as well.
More money -> more bullets -> stronger accounts
And retraining guards is also not for free. So I consider the hitlist bug to be more severe.
Smul at 16:37:42 on 18/01:
Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.
Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
Johnny at 16:31:49 on 18/01:
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.
Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
Well, teh hitlist cheat has very concrete effect on the game as well.
More money -> more bullets -> stronger accounts
And retraining guards is also not for free. So I consider the hitlist bug to be more severe.
They are both equally gamebreaking and disturbing.
Anonymous (16:44:52 - 18-01)
Deston at 16:38:45 on 18/01:
In fact I care to argue otherwise Changa. Everyone shot at such time intervals that does not manage to survive is a bad player. There's nothing wrong with being a bad player, most people here make the silliest mistakes that get them killed or simply never bothered to learn how to play. Nevertheless I would relish the opportunity of getting shot so much at such a slow pace, and making people waste all their bullets.
Smul at 16:20:10 on 18/01:
I have to agree with Arcanine here, the gaps are constantly 30 mins or more, and never more than 2 shots every 45 mins (bloodbuying). It's very well possible to survive like this in this KA if you have full def BG setup.
Changa at 16:17:27 on 18/01:
Yeah, right.
Arcanine at 16:16:45 on 18/01:
Look at the times he got shot...
It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.
People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Look at the times he got shot...
It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.
People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious
Yeah, right.
I have to agree with Arcanine here, the gaps are constantly 30 mins or more, and never more than 2 shots every 45 mins (bloodbuying). It's very well possible to survive like this in this KA if you have full def BG setup.
In full def bg setup two bgs get killed, right? How does one retrain two bodyguard fully to def setup within just 15 minutes? There really isn't much more time between 20:57:25 and 21:12:48?
(It may well be the case that the attackers totally faild, as Furyan claims - not guilty until proven otherwise)
Smul at 16:37:42 on 18/01:
Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.
Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
Johnny at 16:31:49 on 18/01:
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.
Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
So Righelli and Lucchese people didn't get cought for health bug cheat?
I thought they were cause 1st time I saw and heard about this bug is in this article, so I thought they got cought for that + hitlist thing. And yes ofc health bug seems just game breaking, but I didn't hear for it before. I don't think that bug existed from 2.9 - 3.2 when there were really strong accounts (including yours) it had to come later. Also I wonder how did OB news got info about this bug, and is it known (with proof) who has been using it?
Anonymous (16:43:14 - 18-01)
Smul at 16:37:42 on 18/01:
Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.
Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
Johnny at 16:31:49 on 18/01:
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.
Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
Well, teh hitlist cheat has very concrete effect on the game as well.
More money -> more bullets -> stronger accounts
And retraining guards is also not for free. So I consider the hitlist bug to be more severe.
Smul at 16:20:10 on 18/01:
I have to agree with Arcanine here, the gaps are constantly 30 mins or more, and never more than 2 shots every 45 mins (bloodbuying). It's very well possible to survive like this in this KA if you have full def BG setup.
Changa at 16:17:27 on 18/01:
Yeah, right.
Arcanine at 16:16:45 on 18/01:
Look at the times he got shot...
It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.
People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Look at the times he got shot...
It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.
People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious
Yeah, right.
I have to agree with Arcanine here, the gaps are constantly 30 mins or more, and never more than 2 shots every 45 mins (bloodbuying). It's very well possible to survive like this in this KA if you have full def BG setup.
Johnny at 16:31:49 on 18/01:
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.
Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Ah bugs, and suddenly everybody is pointing fingers at each other.
Cute.
Cute.
Froster at 16:26:43 on 18/01:
Knowing how to survive in this game if you only get shot once every 30 minutes isn't considered being pro? Like HeRo said, the attacking side just fails so hard. If you want to bring a full defence account down you shouldn't give him time to replace his bodyguards. You obviously just suck balls yourself, since you don't know this stuff.
Changa at 16:21:48 on 18/01:
I know what I had to go through shooting both some ISPP accounts the night before and last night, shooting against Messina.
If you are right, omerta is suddenly filled with many pro players and their superaccounts.
Gratz to them, everyone knows what they are doing. And I'm sure they will go on doing them.
Froster at 16:17:43 on 18/01:
Rofl... now you're just throwing dirt towards ISPP cause you want to point a finger. If you look at the times he got hits, you can obviously notice he had enough time to rebuild his defence setup. Now shut up if you keep talking crap.
Amproof at 16:14:31 on 18/01:
:') not with today's KA, but with 199 health? probably
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Rofl... now you're just throwing dirt towards ISPP cause you want to point a finger. If you look at the times he got hits, you can obviously notice he had enough time to rebuild his defence setup. Now shut up if you keep talking crap.
I know what I had to go through shooting both some ISPP accounts the night before and last night, shooting against Messina.
If you are right, omerta is suddenly filled with many pro players and their superaccounts.
Gratz to them, everyone knows what they are doing. And I'm sure they will go on doing them.
Knowing how to survive in this game if you only get shot once every 30 minutes isn't considered being pro? Like HeRo said, the attacking side just fails so hard. If you want to bring a full defence account down you shouldn't give him time to replace his bodyguards. You obviously just suck balls yourself, since you don't know this stuff.
Yeah maybe.
Changa at 16:21:48 on 18/01:
I know what I had to go through shooting both some ISPP accounts the night before and last night, shooting against Messina.
If you are right, omerta is suddenly filled with many pro players and their superaccounts.
Gratz to them, everyone knows what they are doing. And I'm sure they will go on doing them.
Froster at 16:17:43 on 18/01:
Rofl... now you're just throwing dirt towards ISPP cause you want to point a finger. If you look at the times he got hits, you can obviously notice he had enough time to rebuild his defence setup. Now shut up if you keep talking crap.
Amproof at 16:14:31 on 18/01:
:') not with today's KA, but with 199 health? probably
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Rofl... now you're just throwing dirt towards ISPP cause you want to point a finger. If you look at the times he got hits, you can obviously notice he had enough time to rebuild his defence setup. Now shut up if you keep talking crap.
I know what I had to go through shooting both some ISPP accounts the night before and last night, shooting against Messina.
If you are right, omerta is suddenly filled with many pro players and their superaccounts.
Gratz to them, everyone knows what they are doing. And I'm sure they will go on doing them.
Knowing how to survive in this game if you only get shot once every 30 minutes isn't considered being pro? Like HeRo said, the attacking side just fails so hard. If you want to bring a full defence account down you shouldn't give him time to replace his bodyguards. You obviously just suck balls yourself, since you don't know this stuff.
HeRo at 16:20:11 on 18/01:
just learn2play.... full def is a bitch huh?! and maybe some better timing between shots, the attackers just sucked!
(K)
Furyan
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
I think everyone was in on this!
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
I think everyone was in on this!
just learn2play.... full def is a bitch huh?! and maybe some better timing between shots, the attackers just sucked!
(K)
Furyan
I'm sorry man it is suspicious.
You may have done it without any cheats.
but there's a cheat out there...
(K)
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
Froster at 16:17:43 on 18/01:
Rofl... now you're just throwing dirt towards ISPP cause you want to point a finger. If you look at the times he got hits, you can obviously notice he had enough time to rebuild his defence setup. Now shut up if you keep talking crap.
Amproof at 16:14:31 on 18/01:
:') not with today's KA, but with 199 health? probably
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Rofl... now you're just throwing dirt towards ISPP cause you want to point a finger. If you look at the times he got hits, you can obviously notice he had enough time to rebuild his defence setup. Now shut up if you keep talking crap.
I know what I had to go through shooting both some ISPP accounts the night before and last night, shooting against Messina.
If you are right, omerta is suddenly filled with many pro players and their superaccounts.
Gratz to them, everyone knows what they are doing. And I'm sure they will go on doing them.
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
I think everyone was in on this!
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
I think everyone was in on this!
just learn2play.... full def is a bitch huh?! and maybe some better timing between shots, the attackers just sucked!
(K)
Furyan
Changa at 16:17:27 on 18/01:
Yeah, right.
Arcanine at 16:16:45 on 18/01:
Look at the times he got shot...
It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.
People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Look at the times he got shot...
It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.
People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious
Yeah, right.
I have to agree with Arcanine here, the gaps are constantly 30 mins or more, and never more than 2 shots every 45 mins (bloodbuying). It's very well possible to survive like this in this KA if you have full def BG setup.
Anonymous (16:17:52 - 18-01)
time to reset the version
bug is being abused way to much to make it a fair version.
bug is being abused way to much to make it a fair version.
Amproof at 16:14:31 on 18/01:
:') not with today's KA, but with 199 health? probably
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Rofl... now you're just throwing dirt towards ISPP cause you want to point a finger. If you look at the times he got hits, you can obviously notice he had enough time to rebuild his defence setup. Now shut up if you keep talking crap.
Arcanine at 16:16:45 on 18/01:
Look at the times he got shot...
It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.
People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?
Look at the times he got shot...
It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.
People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious
Yeah, right.
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.
Kind of weird tbh :P
Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.
It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...
Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...
Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.
Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
So Righelli and Lucchese people didn't get cought for health bug cheat?
I thought they were cause 1st time I saw and heard about this bug is in this article, so I thought they got cought for that + hitlist thing. And yes ofc health bug seems just game breaking, but I didn't hear for it before. I don't think that bug existed from 2.9 - 3.2 when there were really strong accounts (including yours) it had to come later. Also I wonder how did OB news got info about this bug, and is it known (with proof) who has been using it?
It's a good thing the game really logs quite a lot of data. It probably shouldn't be hard for admins to make a search on all changes in health (of the last week? Two weeks?) and automatically akill all having >100% at any point in the game. I'm curious who abused it now as well, btw.