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Bugs Bugs Bugs?!
We just saw a few akills, which downed Righelli & Lucchese. So OBN started investigating what happened, speaking with some people to find out exactly what happpened.
A Top from a an unnamed family told OBN that he abused several bugs in Omerta. He only told Beyond about 2 in specific, but there are way and way more he told us. But these are the most used.
1. Bloodbank bug → When you have for example 99% health and you would go to the bloodbank and add the following DOM value in the input field "100e-2" you would end up with 199% health!
Here we have to ask, how long is this going on? Are there more families who knew about this? And what if they had all their members at 199% health, they just wouldn't be able to be brought down. I think of yesterdays war where tops of the attacking families state that Righelli highranks for example just didn't die. Same goes for countering families that said it was impossible to kill Messina accounts, while Messina was an agressor in the war, thus needing to have attack BG setups.
We have no proof here, but these are our first thoughts of course. We are not pointing any fingers!
2. Hitlist bug → So you want to hitlist a person but you don't have the required money? Another simple solution! If you would fill out "100e+6" in the input field you would hitlist a person for $100 million omerta dollars and it would only cost you $100 omerta dollars. Sounds like a fair deal to me!
We saw a lot of Messina people who got hitlisted a few days ago, and i think opponents of Messina may have used this bug to hitlist them.
Update: Some reporters saw, especially this version, rather weird bumps of money ingame. It was suddenly way higher than it ever was. An abuser explained to us how they did this.
They looked for a target, when they found him, they put this person on the hitlist and shot inmediatly. → free money!
Update²: If this is possible in the input fields at the Hitlist and the Bloodbank. Is it also possible to fill these codes in at all other input fields? If this is true it would mean that every aspect with an input field of the game could be abused by this bug. SH Time, Bullets used to shoot, Gambling, EVERYTHING.
We recieve images and logs from everyone that the bugs are also used to get extra RP and more bullets from the local factory then allowed.
A anonymous person showed me he bought 1337 units of beer as swindler and gained about 30% rank progess!
Another showed an image where he bought 10.000 bullets from the local factory. → http://i46.tinypic.com/2d7wqix.png
Should we start doubting at omerta and the "winners" of omerta the last few versions?
Lance Armstrong came clean yesterday, he told Oprah he used forbidden substitutes to perfom better and win the Tour de France. Did certain families also used these "methodes/substitutes" to win a version? or came out as winner in certain wars?
We just saw a few akills, which downed Righelli & Lucchese. So OBN started investigating what happened, speaking with some people to find out exactly what happpened.
A Top from a an unnamed family told OBN that he abused several bugs in Omerta. He only told Beyond about 2 in specific, but there are way and way more he told us. But these are the most used.
1. Bloodbank bug → When you have for example 99% health and you would go to the bloodbank and add the following DOM value in the input field "100e-2" you would end up with 199% health!
Here we have to ask, how long is this going on? Are there more families who knew about this? And what if they had all their members at 199% health, they just wouldn't be able to be brought down. I think of yesterdays war where tops of the attacking families state that Righelli highranks for example just didn't die. Same goes for countering families that said it was impossible to kill Messina accounts, while Messina was an agressor in the war, thus needing to have attack BG setups.
We have no proof here, but these are our first thoughts of course. We are not pointing any fingers!
2. Hitlist bug → So you want to hitlist a person but you don't have the required money? Another simple solution! If you would fill out "100e+6" in the input field you would hitlist a person for $100 million omerta dollars and it would only cost you $100 omerta dollars. Sounds like a fair deal to me!
We saw a lot of Messina people who got hitlisted a few days ago, and i think opponents of Messina may have used this bug to hitlist them.
Update: Some reporters saw, especially this version, rather weird bumps of money ingame. It was suddenly way higher than it ever was. An abuser explained to us how they did this.
They looked for a target, when they found him, they put this person on the hitlist and shot inmediatly. → free money!
Update²: If this is possible in the input fields at the Hitlist and the Bloodbank. Is it also possible to fill these codes in at all other input fields? If this is true it would mean that every aspect with an input field of the game could be abused by this bug. SH Time, Bullets used to shoot, Gambling, EVERYTHING.
We recieve images and logs from everyone that the bugs are also used to get extra RP and more bullets from the local factory then allowed.
A anonymous person showed me he bought 1337 units of beer as swindler and gained about 30% rank progess!
Another showed an image where he bought 10.000 bullets from the local factory. → http://i46.tinypic.com/2d7wqix.png
Should we start doubting at omerta and the "winners" of omerta the last few versions?
Lance Armstrong came clean yesterday, he told Oprah he used forbidden substitutes to perfom better and win the Tour de France. Did certain families also used these "methodes/substitutes" to win a version? or came out as winner in certain wars?
statements
/q sbanks | #beyond.info
statistics
| War started on: 14:49:02 18-01-2013 | War ended on: 15:01:00 18-01-2013 |
| Bullet difference: -1,481,519 | War duration: 11m |
| Money difference: -$1,065,804,084 | Players died: 19 |
deaths
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Anonymous (03:50:13 - 19-01)
Anonymous (03:46:17 - 19-01)
isImportant? at 00:56:21 on 19/01:
the most important bugs are the ones above, all others are fake, if there was rank bug, you would see some very high ranks in the pillory. "<number>e<number>" bug only exists in a few page, but most useful ones are already caught. I dont believe it existed in bf or nb page.
the most important bugs are the ones above, all others are fake, if there was rank bug, you would see some very high ranks in the pillory. "<number>e<number>" bug only exists in a few page, but most useful ones are already caught. I dont believe it existed in bf or nb page.
If you only the most useful ones have been caught, why don't you report the rest? Aren't you interested in playing fair?
How can you be sure it never existed in the bf or n/b page? This people seen to have proves. Scarce, but proves nonetheless.
Anonymous (03:42:47 - 19-01)
"A anonymous person showed me he bought 1337 units of beer as swindler and gained about 30% rank progress!"
Do you have a print screen to show us? o.O
Do you have a print screen to show us? o.O
Anonymous (02:18:24 - 19-01)
Anonymous at 01:13:58 on 19/01:
Pffff BULLSHIT , that excuse is also used by male rapist who saying the girl asked for it beacuase her skirt was to short.
The one cheating , abusing ,stealing , etc etc is always the one to blame and no one else.
Anonymous at 00:48:59 on 19/01:
I wonder if there's still anyone to blame when they make cheating this easy. It's almost like putting the keys in your car, let the engine run in the middle of a big city (on a saterday night) and go to bed.
Then act suprised your car is gone by the morning.
Making it this easy if almost begging for people to use it, just fill in a different number and you get bullets for free! (almost)
I wonder if there's still anyone to blame when they make cheating this easy. It's almost like putting the keys in your car, let the engine run in the middle of a big city (on a saterday night) and go to bed.
Then act suprised your car is gone by the morning.
Making it this easy if almost begging for people to use it, just fill in a different number and you get bullets for free! (almost)
Pffff BULLSHIT , that excuse is also used by male rapist who saying the girl asked for it beacuase her skirt was to short.
The one cheating , abusing ,stealing , etc etc is always the one to blame and no one else.
I agree that its the wrong thing to do but does your insurance company pay if you leave your keys outside your car, with the doors opened? most insurance companies don't pay you because that is called personal responsibility.
the rapist issue is nothing to compare because there's a major difference between material and body possessions. I do like to make clear I'm against bug abuse and that its a wrong thing to do but the admins take no personal responsibility at all. you can expect people to buy more bullets when all they have to do is fill in a different number. there's nothing hard about using this bug, anyone can do it at any given moment. The crew made it too easy to cheat
Anonymous (01:13:58 - 19-01)
Anonymous at 00:48:59 on 19/01:
I wonder if there's still anyone to blame when they make cheating this easy. It's almost like putting the keys in your car, let the engine run in the middle of a big city (on a saterday night) and go to bed.
Then act suprised your car is gone by the morning.
Making it this easy if almost begging for people to use it, just fill in a different number and you get bullets for free! (almost)
I wonder if there's still anyone to blame when they make cheating this easy. It's almost like putting the keys in your car, let the engine run in the middle of a big city (on a saterday night) and go to bed.
Then act suprised your car is gone by the morning.
Making it this easy if almost begging for people to use it, just fill in a different number and you get bullets for free! (almost)
Pffff BULLSHIT , that excuse is also used by male rapist who saying the girl asked for it beacuase her skirt was to short.
The one cheating , abusing ,stealing , etc etc is always the one to blame and no one else.
isImportant? (00:56:21 - 19-01)
the most important bugs are the ones above, all others are fake, if there was rank bug, you would see some very high ranks in the pillory. "<number>e<number>" bug only exists in a few page, but most useful ones are already caught. I dont believe it existed in bf or nb page.
Anonymous (00:48:59 - 19-01)
I wonder if there's still anyone to blame when they make cheating this easy. It's almost like putting the keys in your car, let the engine run in the middle of a big city (on a saterday night) and go to bed.
Then act suprised your car is gone by the morning.
Making it this easy if almost begging for people to use it, just fill in a different number and you get bullets for free! (almost)
Then act suprised your car is gone by the morning.
Making it this easy if almost begging for people to use it, just fill in a different number and you get bullets for free! (almost)
Anonymous (00:36:30 - 19-01)
Best thing about this to be honest is Bramblerose writing.
"It’s bitterly cold outside, snow’s been fallen down for days."
"fallen"
Ahahahahahhahahahahah, really ?
Bramblerose more work on the game and less fail attempts at writing.
"It’s bitterly cold outside, snow’s been fallen down for days."
"fallen"
Ahahahahahhahahahahah, really ?
Bramblerose more work on the game and less fail attempts at writing.
Anonymous at 00:06:40 on 19/01:
I tried it today and I could only write two characters (letters or numbers), which means from now on you can only choose a number between 2-99. Still, I agree with you, any programmer could have done something as easy as checking range!
The same could have been done with the money. If a player was spending more money than he had (his "range") it shouldn't work. Basically, with this code, range only exists to buy b/n according to one's rank. WHAT A JOKE.
Rix at 00:00:34 on 19/01:
Wow, such basic bugs...
Funny thing, they apparently did check if the input was numeric, but did not realize that something like "100-e2" is perfectly numeric for PHP. Even worse, they did not though at all of checking if the input was in the allowed range (between 1 and 99 for blood) nor did they check if the end result would end up above the allowed maximum (that is, 100%). Such basic checks which should be the standard for input validation.
Morons.
Wow, such basic bugs...
Funny thing, they apparently did check if the input was numeric, but did not realize that something like "100-e2" is perfectly numeric for PHP. Even worse, they did not though at all of checking if the input was in the allowed range (between 1 and 99 for blood) nor did they check if the end result would end up above the allowed maximum (that is, 100%). Such basic checks which should be the standard for input validation.
Morons.
I tried it today and I could only write two characters (letters or numbers), which means from now on you can only choose a number between 2-99. Still, I agree with you, any programmer could have done something as easy as checking range!
The same could have been done with the money. If a player was spending more money than he had (his "range") it shouldn't work. Basically, with this code, range only exists to buy b/n according to one's rank. WHAT A JOKE.
thats easy to change, even with firebug or so
Ghandhi (00:22:38 - 19-01)
Rix at 00:00:34 on 19/01:
Wow, such basic bugs...
Funny thing, they apparently did check if the input was numeric, but did not realize that something like "100-e2" is perfectly numeric for PHP. Even worse, they did not though at all of checking if the input was in the allowed range (between 1 and 99 for blood) nor did they check if the end result would end up above the allowed maximum (that is, 100%). Such basic checks which should be the standard for input validation.
Morons.
Wow, such basic bugs...
Funny thing, they apparently did check if the input was numeric, but did not realize that something like "100-e2" is perfectly numeric for PHP. Even worse, they did not though at all of checking if the input was in the allowed range (between 1 and 99 for blood) nor did they check if the end result would end up above the allowed maximum (that is, 100%). Such basic checks which should be the standard for input validation.
Morons.
+1. spot on ^^
Anonymous (00:13:48 - 19-01)
Anonymous at 00:08:59 on 19/01:
It's not just these families, there's more than just 1 family alive right now that has used bugs, same with a couple of dead families but as you can understand it is hard to kill people that are already dead :)
It's a hughe bug in the game and I don't even know all families so it might even be bigger than I think it is :\
Anonymous at 00:04:13 on 19/01:
What I find funny is that even the most obvious cheats/exploits aren't even mentioned :S And the question who yo blame is fairly simple imo as the disclaimer is very clear on that point. What i find also very disturbing is the fact that it looks(At least for me it's a feeling) always the same family names showing up again and again with the relation to cheat ,exploit abuse. As the same always happens with a start of a version where certain individuals always seem to have some kind of insomniac desease which allows them to be awake for over 100+ hours.
Hmmmmm maybe time to stop as players to be so naive and just admit there are cheaters among us probebly 40% ingames accounts played by 5 % of the real human players.^^
:D
What I find funny is that even the most obvious cheats/exploits aren't even mentioned :S And the question who yo blame is fairly simple imo as the disclaimer is very clear on that point. What i find also very disturbing is the fact that it looks(At least for me it's a feeling) always the same family names showing up again and again with the relation to cheat ,exploit abuse. As the same always happens with a start of a version where certain individuals always seem to have some kind of insomniac desease which allows them to be awake for over 100+ hours.
Hmmmmm maybe time to stop as players to be so naive and just admit there are cheaters among us probebly 40% ingames accounts played by 5 % of the real human players.^^
:D
It's not just these families, there's more than just 1 family alive right now that has used bugs, same with a couple of dead families but as you can understand it is hard to kill people that are already dead :)
It's a hughe bug in the game and I don't even know all families so it might even be bigger than I think it is :\
The worst part is that not all families are using the same bugs, which means there are still several uncovered bugs out there.
Anonymous (00:08:59 - 19-01)
Anonymous at 00:04:13 on 19/01:
What I find funny is that even the most obvious cheats/exploits aren't even mentioned :S And the question who yo blame is fairly simple imo as the disclaimer is very clear on that point. What i find also very disturbing is the fact that it looks(At least for me it's a feeling) always the same family names showing up again and again with the relation to cheat ,exploit abuse. As the same always happens with a start of a version where certain individuals always seem to have some kind of insomniac desease which allows them to be awake for over 100+ hours.
Hmmmmm maybe time to stop as players to be so naive and just admit there are cheaters among us probebly 40% ingames accounts played by 5 % of the real human players.^^
:D
What I find funny is that even the most obvious cheats/exploits aren't even mentioned :S And the question who yo blame is fairly simple imo as the disclaimer is very clear on that point. What i find also very disturbing is the fact that it looks(At least for me it's a feeling) always the same family names showing up again and again with the relation to cheat ,exploit abuse. As the same always happens with a start of a version where certain individuals always seem to have some kind of insomniac desease which allows them to be awake for over 100+ hours.
Hmmmmm maybe time to stop as players to be so naive and just admit there are cheaters among us probebly 40% ingames accounts played by 5 % of the real human players.^^
:D
It's not just these families, there's more than just 1 family alive right now that has used bugs, same with a couple of dead families but as you can understand it is hard to kill people that are already dead :)
It's a hughe bug in the game and I don't even know all families so it might even be bigger than I think it is :\
Anonymous (00:06:40 - 19-01)
Rix at 00:00:34 on 19/01:
Wow, such basic bugs...
Funny thing, they apparently did check if the input was numeric, but did not realize that something like "100-e2" is perfectly numeric for PHP. Even worse, they did not though at all of checking if the input was in the allowed range (between 1 and 99 for blood) nor did they check if the end result would end up above the allowed maximum (that is, 100%). Such basic checks which should be the standard for input validation.
Morons.
Wow, such basic bugs...
Funny thing, they apparently did check if the input was numeric, but did not realize that something like "100-e2" is perfectly numeric for PHP. Even worse, they did not though at all of checking if the input was in the allowed range (between 1 and 99 for blood) nor did they check if the end result would end up above the allowed maximum (that is, 100%). Such basic checks which should be the standard for input validation.
Morons.
I tried it today and I could only write two characters (letters or numbers), which means from now on you can only choose a number between 2-99. Still, I agree with you, any programmer could have done something as easy as checking range!
The same could have been done with the money. If a player was spending more money than he had (his "range") it shouldn't work. Basically, with this code, range only exists to buy b/n according to one's rank. WHAT A JOKE.
Anonymous (00:04:13 - 19-01)
What I find funny is that even the most obvious cheats/exploits aren't even mentioned :S And the question who yo blame is fairly simple imo as the disclaimer is very clear on that point. What i find also very disturbing is the fact that it looks(At least for me it's a feeling) always the same family names showing up again and again with the relation to cheat ,exploit abuse. As the same always happens with a start of a version where certain individuals always seem to have some kind of insomniac desease which allows them to be awake for over 100+ hours.
Hmmmmm maybe time to stop as players to be so naive and just admit there are cheaters among us probebly 40% ingames accounts played by 5 % of the real human players.^^
:D
Hmmmmm maybe time to stop as players to be so naive and just admit there are cheaters among us probebly 40% ingames accounts played by 5 % of the real human players.^^
:D
Wow, such basic bugs...
Funny thing, they apparently did check if the input was numeric, but did not realize that something like "100-e2" is perfectly numeric for PHP. Even worse, they did not though at all of checking if the input was in the allowed range (between 1 and 99 for blood) nor did they check if the end result would end up above the allowed maximum (that is, 100%). Such basic checks which should be the standard for input validation.
Morons.
Funny thing, they apparently did check if the input was numeric, but did not realize that something like "100-e2" is perfectly numeric for PHP. Even worse, they did not though at all of checking if the input was in the allowed range (between 1 and 99 for blood) nor did they check if the end result would end up above the allowed maximum (that is, 100%). Such basic checks which should be the standard for input validation.
Morons.
Anonymous (23:44:40 - 18-01)
perfect solution would be making such akills permanent actually
as how it goes in CoD black ops 2 multiplayer xD
you cheat, you can never ever even see the game menu again
ofc this aint no cod or anything, but still..
although you need to be able to track cheaters first ofc :')
and saddest thing is, I doubt anyone gives a flying fuck about all this..
Brando is probably pondering about a Lackeys III page, based on the idea of selling even more dc's
Bramble is probably finishing another part of her new adventure book for 3-7 age group
and coders or whatever they're called, is learning to use FireFox or Chrome instead of Internet Explorer :'D
for fuck's sake :')
and I imagine those cheaters laughing their asses off right now, not feeling the tiniest shame or guilt :')
as how it goes in CoD black ops 2 multiplayer xD
you cheat, you can never ever even see the game menu again
ofc this aint no cod or anything, but still..
although you need to be able to track cheaters first ofc :')
and saddest thing is, I doubt anyone gives a flying fuck about all this..
Brando is probably pondering about a Lackeys III page, based on the idea of selling even more dc's
Bramble is probably finishing another part of her new adventure book for 3-7 age group
and coders or whatever they're called, is learning to use FireFox or Chrome instead of Internet Explorer :'D
for fuck's sake :')
and I imagine those cheaters laughing their asses off right now, not feeling the tiniest shame or guilt :')
Anonymous (23:21:10 - 18-01)
does the bug still work?
Anonymous (23:19:51 - 18-01)
Anonymous at 23:15:38 on 18/01:
Let me quote Bramblerose: 'We busted everyone that abused the hitlist bug.'
If they busted everyone that used it, then howcome more of them are still alive rather than being dead?
Anonymous at 23:01:25 on 18/01:
I don't see admins acting like they've caught ALL bug abusers anywhere. And it's thoroughly possible to report what you know to admins as well, including names of those high ranked members of several fams, and including details of the several bugs. It would maybe harsh for your current `friends', but in the long run it might even help a game that's dying anyway for a little while.
Anonymous at 22:49:23 on 18/01:
good thing your keeping your mouth shut and letting them continue, smartass ;)
Anonymous at 22:35:24 on 18/01:
I actually know a lot more people that have used this bug and even more than just this bug. The admins have found a bug and they even fail to fix it right now.. You can still use the bug as we speak. Also I know that there's people exploiting other bugs that make them quite some money.
The admins caught a couple of cheaters and they act like they've caught the bug abusers... the sad realitiy is, these guys were just one of many many more. I know the people that use some bugs and I dare to say there's quite some high ranked members of several families using the bugs.
I actually know a lot more people that have used this bug and even more than just this bug. The admins have found a bug and they even fail to fix it right now.. You can still use the bug as we speak. Also I know that there's people exploiting other bugs that make them quite some money.
The admins caught a couple of cheaters and they act like they've caught the bug abusers... the sad realitiy is, these guys were just one of many many more. I know the people that use some bugs and I dare to say there's quite some high ranked members of several families using the bugs.
good thing your keeping your mouth shut and letting them continue, smartass ;)
Let me quote Bramblerose: 'We busted everyone that abused the hitlist bug.'
If they busted everyone that used it, then howcome more of them are still alive rather than being dead?
Anonymous (23:15:38 - 18-01)
Anonymous at 23:01:25 on 18/01:
I don't see admins acting like they've caught ALL bug abusers anywhere. And it's thoroughly possible to report what you know to admins as well, including names of those high ranked members of several fams, and including details of the several bugs. It would maybe harsh for your current `friends', but in the long run it might even help a game that's dying anyway for a little while.
Anonymous at 22:49:23 on 18/01:
good thing your keeping your mouth shut and letting them continue, smartass ;)
Anonymous at 22:35:24 on 18/01:
I actually know a lot more people that have used this bug and even more than just this bug. The admins have found a bug and they even fail to fix it right now.. You can still use the bug as we speak. Also I know that there's people exploiting other bugs that make them quite some money.
The admins caught a couple of cheaters and they act like they've caught the bug abusers... the sad realitiy is, these guys were just one of many many more. I know the people that use some bugs and I dare to say there's quite some high ranked members of several families using the bugs.
I actually know a lot more people that have used this bug and even more than just this bug. The admins have found a bug and they even fail to fix it right now.. You can still use the bug as we speak. Also I know that there's people exploiting other bugs that make them quite some money.
The admins caught a couple of cheaters and they act like they've caught the bug abusers... the sad realitiy is, these guys were just one of many many more. I know the people that use some bugs and I dare to say there's quite some high ranked members of several families using the bugs.
good thing your keeping your mouth shut and letting them continue, smartass ;)
Let me quote Bramblerose: 'We busted everyone that abused the hitlist bug.'
If they busted everyone that used it, then howcome more of them are still alive rather than being dead?
the most important bugs are the ones above, all others are fake, if there was rank bug, you would see some very high ranks in the pillory. "<number>e<number>" bug only exists in a few page, but most useful ones are already caught. I dont believe it existed in bf or nb page.
If you only the most useful ones have been caught, why don't you report the rest? Aren't you interested in playing fair?
How can you be sure it never existed in the bf or n/b page? This people seen to have proves. Scarce, but proves nonetheless.
Seen? SEEM. Proves? It's a verb! Like, it proves something... Proofs, evidence, pal, that's what you're trying to say!