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10-09 Poll: Where to go with version 24
Author: Hyobanshi
Last updated: 174d 17h 23m 30s ago by Hyobanshi
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It seems the cleanup is done; what should happen with this version?

Within one week after the end of plating Ontario, Edge and Vengaence cleaned down all families and didn't give new families a chance. So what should admins do?

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corniole_ (16:44:30 - 11-09)
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Redspeert at 16:29:29 on 11/09:
Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.

All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?

Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.

In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.

What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.

They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..


You bring up several good points. This game has two major problems, one is that the playerbase is cancerous and toxic at best. Back in the days we had 50+ fams with atleast 20-40 shooters each, now we have at best 10 fams with those numbers. Having such a small playerbase and no new blood coming in (because lets be honest...kids that find this game in 2020 wont be staying around for long, especially not when they can't even get a faminvite since nobody want to take the risk to invite a new player) brings problems on their own. Its the same old people each version that run fams, only famnames change.

I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
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As you already said, bugs don't get fixed and if they get fixed its more likely that it just brings more exploitable bugs instead of fixing the original problem. The current owner of the game seems to spend more time complaining about shameful gameplay on beyond than trying to fix the game. Unless he thinks adding random shit that nobody likes to .dm to be ''tested'' for a year and then brought into .com either not working as intended or bugged out. If you ask me it looks like they're milking the cow with as little work as possible...but the cow is about to run out of milk soon if the numbers of active players is anything to go by.
as long there are some players who have no social life and live 2 moms basement who need to boost their ego to win a version like this the cow will give milk and.
gameowner only need 10 of this ego's to sell DC's so they can fund their 3mill bullets
Redspeert Armenia (16:29:29 - 11-09)
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Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.

All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?

Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.

In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.

What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.

They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..


You bring up several good points. This game has two major problems, one is that the playerbase is cancerous and toxic at best. Back in the days we had 50+ fams with atleast 20-40 shooters each, now we have at best 10 fams with those numbers. Having such a small playerbase and no new blood coming in (because lets be honest...kids that find this game in 2020 wont be staying around for long, especially not when they can't even get a faminvite since nobody want to take the risk to invite a new player) brings problems on their own. Its the same old people each version that run fams, only famnames change.

I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
Image



As you already said, bugs don't get fixed and if they get fixed its more likely that it just brings more exploitable bugs instead of fixing the original problem. The current owner of the game seems to spend more time complaining about shameful gameplay on beyond than trying to fix the game. Unless he thinks adding random shit that nobody likes to .dm to be ''tested'' for a year and then brought into .com either not working as intended or bugged out. If you ask me it looks like they're milking the cow with as little work as possible...but the cow is about to run out of milk soon if the numbers of active players is anything to go by.
gsbaba Turkey (13:12:40 - 11-09)
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Anonymous at 12:53:32 on 11/09:
Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.

All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?

Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.

In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.

What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.

They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..



This!!!!!! You are totally right. I agree with you on EVERYTHING.
Stop pretending to be like ocarina pls
Anonymous (12:58:43 - 11-09)
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Critycal at 12:37:21 on 11/09:
Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.

All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?

Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.

In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.

What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.

They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
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You've been gone for 4, 5 years? Just stay away.
Anonymous (12:53:32 - 11-09)
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Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.

All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?

Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.

In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.

What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.

They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..



This!!!!!! You are totally right. I agree with you on EVERYTHING.
Critycal Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Patron (12:37:21 - 11-09)
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Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.

All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?

Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.

In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.

What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.

They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
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gsbaba Turkey (12:35:00 - 11-09)
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Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.

All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?

Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.

In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.

What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.

They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
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Nier|AFK (12:33:25 - 11-09)
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"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.

All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?

Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.

In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.

What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.

They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
Hyobanshi Netherlands (12:20:53 - 11-09)
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Anonymous at 11:51:00 on 11/09:
Jekkma at 11:45:50 on 11/09:
Anonymous at 11:41:23 on 11/09:
Anonymous at 10:45:21 on 11/09:
where is the admin statement?!?

When a version are ended they disapear, and they wont give any statement, they are too happy when version are short, so they can earn more money when the next version starts.

There's a ticket being made for a reset.
Response was:

Hello,

We have meeting today to discuss status of .com server and next steps for it.

Thank you for your patience,
Dot

They should alsaw make it public into the game, anotherr proof that they are totaly gone from the game and only replay into tickets.
Useless to let us know they got a meeting planned, I bet they will let us know the outcome of the meeting.
Anonymous (11:51:00 - 11-09)
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Jekkma at 11:45:50 on 11/09:
Anonymous at 11:41:23 on 11/09:
Anonymous at 10:45:21 on 11/09:
where is the admin statement?!?

When a version are ended they disapear, and they wont give any statement, they are too happy when version are short, so they can earn more money when the next version starts.

There's a ticket being made for a reset.
Response was:

Hello,

We have meeting today to discuss status of .com server and next steps for it.

Thank you for your patience,
Dot

They should alsaw make it public into the game, anotherr proof that they are totaly gone from the game and only replay into tickets.
Jekkma (11:45:50 - 11-09)
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Anonymous at 11:41:23 on 11/09:
Anonymous at 10:45:21 on 11/09:
where is the admin statement?!?

When a version are ended they disapear, and they wont give any statement, they are too happy when version are short, so they can earn more money when the next version starts.

There's a ticket being made for a reset.
Response was:

Hello,

We have meeting today to discuss status of .com server and next steps for it.

Thank you for your patience,
Dot
Anonymous (11:41:23 - 11-09)
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Anonymous at 10:45:21 on 11/09:
where is the admin statement?!?

When a version are ended they disapear, and they wont give any statement, they are too happy when version are short, so they can earn more money when the next version starts.
Anonymous (10:45:21 - 11-09)
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where is the admin statement?!?
Anonymous (07:56:39 - 11-09)
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Anonymous at 16:30:46 on 10/09:
reset the game and install the setttings & features of v2.3 back.


+1
Anonymous (07:51:25 - 11-09)
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Close this Version, and Reset it tomorrow, ADMINS should alsaw punish all does Mass pact familys, <--we all know that will never happends..
Anonymous (07:43:59 - 11-09)
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Lol there is no new round playerbase will be 200 ass licking shit game
Anonymous (04:06:35 - 11-09)
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Anonymous at 01:17:41 on 11/09:
EP at 22:55:48 on 10/09:
Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible

Perhaps you should suck his dick a bit more and maybe one day he will acknowledge you..
+1
Anonymous (01:17:41 - 11-09)
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EP at 22:55:48 on 10/09:
Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible

Perhaps you should suck his dick a bit more and maybe one day he will acknowledge you..
EP United Kingdom (22:55:48 - 10-09)
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Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible
Redspeert Armenia (21:32:03 - 10-09)
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Dipz at 21:17:45 on 10/09:
Anonymous at 21:08:28 on 10/09:
Weak reporter deleted messages because he is weak
Diealone is WEAK also many weak people in Omerta!

Weakest of them all is Franco imo