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It seems the cleanup is done; what should happen with this version?
Within one week after the end of plating Ontario, Edge and Vengaence cleaned down all families and didn't give new families a chance. So what should admins do?
No personal flaming, racism et cetera
Within one week after the end of plating Ontario, Edge and Vengaence cleaned down all families and didn't give new families a chance. So what should admins do?
No personal flaming, racism et cetera
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Anonymous (16:26:23 - 17-09)
This article poll will reappear for Round 25 in less than 25 days.
Anonymous (16:17:57 - 17-09)
Anonymous at 18:46:55 on 15/09:
Mcgee is one of those ancient players who never adapted to current gameplay. A lot of older players quit that never were apart of this gameplay. A lot here were methodical and in the end they ruined this game by being apart of this toxic gameplay. I played in Provenzano with Mcgee over a decade ago it seems, he’s one of a few from his party he played with that are even still around. If I were Mcgee I would've quit and I don't know why he still plays since people still mention him. That family Provenzano we played in was one unspoken family that did make this game great in its time and would now. Say what you want but my feelings for Mcgee’s courage and whoever plays like him will never change. EP I also heard of, he is a good guy and player and even more so than Mcgee. Mcgee being mean is no real surprise either, but who can blame him? People seem to be making this a life more than a game, I mean how could winning a round so many times in such quick fashion never get old for all these people who are always on one big side!?
Shoutouts to Smurfje nice to see you still around also haha, Redspeert, Crytical.
How about Kapow does he still moderate along with Rix?
Anonymous at 17:51:45 on 15/09:
I remember Mcgee, when I took a break he was playing with EP.
Mcgee seems dependable upon EP if you ask me.
Ep is a well rounded player and should be the kind of player this game needs to make a family and counter this gameplay.
I’m not the biggest fan of Mcgee, I believe he’s very cruel and mean towards others with his words from what I remember, let’s not praise this individual he could’ve been more successful if he kept his mouth shut with a lot of people here. Not sure how he acts since I took a break back in March but I’m hoping players like these two can still remain to make any kind of impact here.
Anonymous at 04:06:35 on 11/09:
+1
Anonymous at 01:17:41 on 11/09:
Perhaps you should suck his dick a bit more and maybe one day he will acknowledge you..
EP at 22:55:48 on 10/09:
Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible
Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible
Perhaps you should suck his dick a bit more and maybe one day he will acknowledge you..
I remember Mcgee, when I took a break he was playing with EP.
Mcgee seems dependable upon EP if you ask me.
Ep is a well rounded player and should be the kind of player this game needs to make a family and counter this gameplay.
I’m not the biggest fan of Mcgee, I believe he’s very cruel and mean towards others with his words from what I remember, let’s not praise this individual he could’ve been more successful if he kept his mouth shut with a lot of people here. Not sure how he acts since I took a break back in March but I’m hoping players like these two can still remain to make any kind of impact here.
Mcgee is one of those ancient players who never adapted to current gameplay. A lot of older players quit that never were apart of this gameplay. A lot here were methodical and in the end they ruined this game by being apart of this toxic gameplay. I played in Provenzano with Mcgee over a decade ago it seems, he’s one of a few from his party he played with that are even still around. If I were Mcgee I would've quit and I don't know why he still plays since people still mention him. That family Provenzano we played in was one unspoken family that did make this game great in its time and would now. Say what you want but my feelings for Mcgee’s courage and whoever plays like him will never change. EP I also heard of, he is a good guy and player and even more so than Mcgee. Mcgee being mean is no real surprise either, but who can blame him? People seem to be making this a life more than a game, I mean how could winning a round so many times in such quick fashion never get old for all these people who are always on one big side!?
Shoutouts to Smurfje nice to see you still around also haha, Redspeert, Crytical.
How about Kapow does he still moderate along with Rix?
Kapow lurks, dunno Rix.
Never heard of EP or his achievements.
Anonymous (18:46:55 - 15-09)
Anonymous at 17:51:45 on 15/09:
I remember Mcgee, when I took a break he was playing with EP.
Mcgee seems dependable upon EP if you ask me.
Ep is a well rounded player and should be the kind of player this game needs to make a family and counter this gameplay.
I’m not the biggest fan of Mcgee, I believe he’s very cruel and mean towards others with his words from what I remember, let’s not praise this individual he could’ve been more successful if he kept his mouth shut with a lot of people here. Not sure how he acts since I took a break back in March but I’m hoping players like these two can still remain to make any kind of impact here.
Anonymous at 04:06:35 on 11/09:
+1
Anonymous at 01:17:41 on 11/09:
Perhaps you should suck his dick a bit more and maybe one day he will acknowledge you..
EP at 22:55:48 on 10/09:
Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible
Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible
Perhaps you should suck his dick a bit more and maybe one day he will acknowledge you..
I remember Mcgee, when I took a break he was playing with EP.
Mcgee seems dependable upon EP if you ask me.
Ep is a well rounded player and should be the kind of player this game needs to make a family and counter this gameplay.
I’m not the biggest fan of Mcgee, I believe he’s very cruel and mean towards others with his words from what I remember, let’s not praise this individual he could’ve been more successful if he kept his mouth shut with a lot of people here. Not sure how he acts since I took a break back in March but I’m hoping players like these two can still remain to make any kind of impact here.
Mcgee is one of those ancient players who never adapted to current gameplay. A lot of older players quit that never were apart of this gameplay. A lot here were methodical and in the end they ruined this game by being apart of this toxic gameplay. I played in Provenzano with Mcgee over a decade ago it seems, he’s one of a few from his party he played with that are even still around. If I were Mcgee I would've quit and I don't know why he still plays since people still mention him. That family Provenzano we played in was one unspoken family that did make this game great in its time and would now. Say what you want but my feelings for Mcgee’s courage and whoever plays like him will never change. EP I also heard of, he is a good guy and player and even more so than Mcgee. Mcgee being mean is no real surprise either, but who can blame him? People seem to be making this a life more than a game, I mean how could winning a round so many times in such quick fashion never get old for all these people who are always on one big side!?
Shoutouts to Smurfje nice to see you still around also haha, Redspeert, Crytical.
How about Kapow does he still moderate along with Rix?
Anonymous (17:51:45 - 15-09)
Anonymous at 04:06:35 on 11/09:
+1
Anonymous at 01:17:41 on 11/09:
Perhaps you should suck his dick a bit more and maybe one day he will acknowledge you..
EP at 22:55:48 on 10/09:
Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible
Perhaps have every account/rebirth Mcgee makes start with 20m bullets
That guy is as far away from anti-game as possible
Perhaps you should suck his dick a bit more and maybe one day he will acknowledge you..
I remember Mcgee, when I took a break he was playing with EP.
Mcgee seems dependable upon EP if you ask me.
Ep is a well rounded player and should be the kind of player this game needs to make a family and counter this gameplay.
I’m not the biggest fan of Mcgee, I believe he’s very cruel and mean towards others with his words from what I remember, let’s not praise this individual he could’ve been more successful if he kept his mouth shut with a lot of people here. Not sure how he acts since I took a break back in March but I’m hoping players like these two can still remain to make any kind of impact here.
Anonymous (14:15:03 - 12-09)
Redspeert at 16:29:29 on 11/09:
I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
The price is 400 dcs for 500 euro now
Anonymous (12:13:54 - 12-09)
Anonymous at 06:49:12 on 12/09:
I see two big improvements that would positively change the meta, in my opinion.
1. Don`t let DCs go from version to version, they should start fresh every version, and you should not be able to farm DCs for several versions on .com .pt. nl to then play one version on .com.
I understand it brings value to the DCs that they last till the next version, but I honestly think the game would be both more fun and more popular if this was not the case.
2. People want to spend money to make a beastly strong account; that`s fine. But I believe there should be a roof for how many DCs you can maximum buy for real money. I talked to one of the top accounts this round and he told me he had bought 300+ DCs this round to build the account. It`s not the players' fault, it`s allowed gameplay. However, 300DCs is not needed for an account and only makes the game highly unbalanced. Set a max amount for real money DC purchase, and of course, in the game, you can buy unlimited from obay as well.
Lets say a max of for example 80 DCs. People could still buy to build strong accs, however, we wouldn't see these 3000EUR accounts.
I see two big improvements that would positively change the meta, in my opinion.
1. Don`t let DCs go from version to version, they should start fresh every version, and you should not be able to farm DCs for several versions on .com .pt. nl to then play one version on .com.
I understand it brings value to the DCs that they last till the next version, but I honestly think the game would be both more fun and more popular if this was not the case.
2. People want to spend money to make a beastly strong account; that`s fine. But I believe there should be a roof for how many DCs you can maximum buy for real money. I talked to one of the top accounts this round and he told me he had bought 300+ DCs this round to build the account. It`s not the players' fault, it`s allowed gameplay. However, 300DCs is not needed for an account and only makes the game highly unbalanced. Set a max amount for real money DC purchase, and of course, in the game, you can buy unlimited from obay as well.
Lets say a max of for example 80 DCs. People could still buy to build strong accs, however, we wouldn't see these 3000EUR accounts.
1. This will make it even more of a pay to win (pay to play) game. The only chance for people who can't afford to spend a lot of money on dcs to have a decent account is to farm for a few rounds before they play a real round.
2. Have you ever heard of a company that puts a limit on how much you can buy of their product? Like McDonalds would put a limit on how many nuggets you can buy, and prevent a fat guy from eating himself to death. DCs are the product of Omerta, the game itself is just a necessity to sell the product.
Nier|AFK (10:41:35 - 12-09)
tao at 18:40:19 on 11/09:
U two seems good if u discuss with eachother about making a new family bois, I'm sure your fam will balance the game.
Redspeert at 16:29:29 on 11/09:
You bring up several good points. This game has two major problems, one is that the playerbase is cancerous and toxic at best. Back in the days we had 50+ fams with atleast 20-40 shooters each, now we have at best 10 fams with those numbers. Having such a small playerbase and no new blood coming in (because lets be honest...kids that find this game in 2020 wont be staying around for long, especially not when they can't even get a faminvite since nobody want to take the risk to invite a new player) brings problems on their own. Its the same old people each version that run fams, only famnames change.
I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
As you already said, bugs don't get fixed and if they get fixed its more likely that it just brings more exploitable bugs instead of fixing the original problem. The current owner of the game seems to spend more time complaining about shameful gameplay on beyond than trying to fix the game. Unless he thinks adding random shit that nobody likes to .dm to be ''tested'' for a year and then brought into .com either not working as intended or bugged out. If you ask me it looks like they're milking the cow with as little work as possible...but the cow is about to run out of milk soon if the numbers of active players is anything to go by.
Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.
All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?
Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.
In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.
What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.
They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.
All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?
Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.
In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.
What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.
They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
You bring up several good points. This game has two major problems, one is that the playerbase is cancerous and toxic at best. Back in the days we had 50+ fams with atleast 20-40 shooters each, now we have at best 10 fams with those numbers. Having such a small playerbase and no new blood coming in (because lets be honest...kids that find this game in 2020 wont be staying around for long, especially not when they can't even get a faminvite since nobody want to take the risk to invite a new player) brings problems on their own. Its the same old people each version that run fams, only famnames change.
I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
As you already said, bugs don't get fixed and if they get fixed its more likely that it just brings more exploitable bugs instead of fixing the original problem. The current owner of the game seems to spend more time complaining about shameful gameplay on beyond than trying to fix the game. Unless he thinks adding random shit that nobody likes to .dm to be ''tested'' for a year and then brought into .com either not working as intended or bugged out. If you ask me it looks like they're milking the cow with as little work as possible...but the cow is about to run out of milk soon if the numbers of active players is anything to go by.
No thanks.
Anonymous (06:51:08 - 12-09)
Anonymous at 06:49:12 on 12/09:
I see two big improvements that would positively change the meta, in my opinion.
1. Don`t let DCs go from version to version, they should start fresh every version, and you should not be able to farm DCs for several versions on .com .pt. nl to then play one version on .com.
I understand it brings value to the DCs that they last till the next version, but I honestly think the game would be both more fun and more popular if this was not the case.
2. People want to spend money to make a beastly strong account; that`s fine. But I believe there should be a roof for how many DCs you can maximum buy for real money. I talked to one of the top accounts this round and he told me he had bought 300+ DCs this round to build the account. It`s not the players' fault, it`s allowed gameplay. However, 300DCs is not needed for an account and only makes the game highly unbalanced. Set a max amount for real money DC purchase, and of course, in the game, you can buy unlimited from obay as well.
Lets say a max of for example 80 DCs. People could still buy to build strong accs, however, we wouldn't see these 3000EUR accounts.
I see two big improvements that would positively change the meta, in my opinion.
1. Don`t let DCs go from version to version, they should start fresh every version, and you should not be able to farm DCs for several versions on .com .pt. nl to then play one version on .com.
I understand it brings value to the DCs that they last till the next version, but I honestly think the game would be both more fun and more popular if this was not the case.
2. People want to spend money to make a beastly strong account; that`s fine. But I believe there should be a roof for how many DCs you can maximum buy for real money. I talked to one of the top accounts this round and he told me he had bought 300+ DCs this round to build the account. It`s not the players' fault, it`s allowed gameplay. However, 300DCs is not needed for an account and only makes the game highly unbalanced. Set a max amount for real money DC purchase, and of course, in the game, you can buy unlimited from obay as well.
Lets say a max of for example 80 DCs. People could still buy to build strong accs, however, we wouldn't see these 3000EUR accounts.
+1
Anonymous (06:49:12 - 12-09)
I see two big improvements that would positively change the meta, in my opinion.
1. Don`t let DCs go from version to version, they should start fresh every version, and you should not be able to farm DCs for several versions on .com .pt. nl to then play one version on .com.
I understand it brings value to the DCs that they last till the next version, but I honestly think the game would be both more fun and more popular if this was not the case.
2. People want to spend money to make a beastly strong account; that`s fine. But I believe there should be a roof for how many DCs you can maximum buy for real money. I talked to one of the top accounts this round and he told me he had bought 300+ DCs this round to build the account. It`s not the players' fault, it`s allowed gameplay. However, 300DCs is not needed for an account and only makes the game highly unbalanced. Set a max amount for real money DC purchase, and of course, in the game, you can buy unlimited from obay as well.
Lets say a max of for example 80 DCs. People could still buy to build strong accs, however, we wouldn't see these 3000EUR accounts.
1. Don`t let DCs go from version to version, they should start fresh every version, and you should not be able to farm DCs for several versions on .com .pt. nl to then play one version on .com.
I understand it brings value to the DCs that they last till the next version, but I honestly think the game would be both more fun and more popular if this was not the case.
2. People want to spend money to make a beastly strong account; that`s fine. But I believe there should be a roof for how many DCs you can maximum buy for real money. I talked to one of the top accounts this round and he told me he had bought 300+ DCs this round to build the account. It`s not the players' fault, it`s allowed gameplay. However, 300DCs is not needed for an account and only makes the game highly unbalanced. Set a max amount for real money DC purchase, and of course, in the game, you can buy unlimited from obay as well.
Lets say a max of for example 80 DCs. People could still buy to build strong accs, however, we wouldn't see these 3000EUR accounts.
Aurora at 18:59:03 on 11/09:
+1
Anonymous at 07:56:39 on 11/09:
+1
Anonymous at 16:30:46 on 10/09:
reset the game and install the setttings & features of v2.3 back.
reset the game and install the setttings & features of v2.3 back.
+1
For now: till over a few years (maybe)
back in tha days was much more fun etc.....
so goodluck with this short money versions :w
Anonymous (06:37:04 - 12-09)
Anonymous at 06:34:15 on 12/09:
How is this massblooding? 1 fam have only 2 bloods? I dont see this as maasblooding.
Admin: put on .com war system 1vs1.
Anonymous at 23:19:40 on 11/09:
pacting. massive blooding. no hof pls
pacting. massive blooding. no hof pls
How is this massblooding? 1 fam have only 2 bloods? I dont see this as maasblooding.
Admin: put on .com war system 1vs1.
They were blooded to 8+ families, not 2.
Anonymous (06:34:15 - 12-09)
Anonymous at 23:19:40 on 11/09:
pacting. massive blooding. no hof pls
pacting. massive blooding. no hof pls
How is this massblooding? 1 fam have only 2 bloods? I dont see this as maasblooding.
Admin: put on .com war system 1vs1.
After Saturday, 12 September 14:00 OT
No more families are allowed to be created
So 4 weeks maybe till next version
No more families are allowed to be created
So 4 weeks maybe till next version
Anonymous (23:19:40 - 11-09)
pacting. massive blooding. no hof pls
Aurora (18:59:03 - 11-09)
Anonymous at 07:56:39 on 11/09:
+1
Anonymous at 16:30:46 on 10/09:
reset the game and install the setttings & features of v2.3 back.
reset the game and install the setttings & features of v2.3 back.
+1
Redspeert at 16:29:29 on 11/09:
You bring up several good points. This game has two major problems, one is that the playerbase is cancerous and toxic at best. Back in the days we had 50+ fams with atleast 20-40 shooters each, now we have at best 10 fams with those numbers. Having such a small playerbase and no new blood coming in (because lets be honest...kids that find this game in 2020 wont be staying around for long, especially not when they can't even get a faminvite since nobody want to take the risk to invite a new player) brings problems on their own. Its the same old people each version that run fams, only famnames change.
I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
As you already said, bugs don't get fixed and if they get fixed its more likely that it just brings more exploitable bugs instead of fixing the original problem. The current owner of the game seems to spend more time complaining about shameful gameplay on beyond than trying to fix the game. Unless he thinks adding random shit that nobody likes to .dm to be ''tested'' for a year and then brought into .com either not working as intended or bugged out. If you ask me it looks like they're milking the cow with as little work as possible...but the cow is about to run out of milk soon if the numbers of active players is anything to go by.
Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.
All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?
Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.
In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.
What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.
They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.
All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?
Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.
In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.
What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.
They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
You bring up several good points. This game has two major problems, one is that the playerbase is cancerous and toxic at best. Back in the days we had 50+ fams with atleast 20-40 shooters each, now we have at best 10 fams with those numbers. Having such a small playerbase and no new blood coming in (because lets be honest...kids that find this game in 2020 wont be staying around for long, especially not when they can't even get a faminvite since nobody want to take the risk to invite a new player) brings problems on their own. Its the same old people each version that run fams, only famnames change.
I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
As you already said, bugs don't get fixed and if they get fixed its more likely that it just brings more exploitable bugs instead of fixing the original problem. The current owner of the game seems to spend more time complaining about shameful gameplay on beyond than trying to fix the game. Unless he thinks adding random shit that nobody likes to .dm to be ''tested'' for a year and then brought into .com either not working as intended or bugged out. If you ask me it looks like they're milking the cow with as little work as possible...but the cow is about to run out of milk soon if the numbers of active players is anything to go by.
Anonymous (17:47:11 - 11-09)
corniole_ at 16:44:30 on 11/09:
as long there are some players who have no social life and live 2 moms basement who need to boost their ego to win a version like this the cow will give milk and.
gameowner only need 10 of this ego's to sell DC's so they can fund their 3mill bullets
Redspeert at 16:29:29 on 11/09:
You bring up several good points. This game has two major problems, one is that the playerbase is cancerous and toxic at best. Back in the days we had 50+ fams with atleast 20-40 shooters each, now we have at best 10 fams with those numbers. Having such a small playerbase and no new blood coming in (because lets be honest...kids that find this game in 2020 wont be staying around for long, especially not when they can't even get a faminvite since nobody want to take the risk to invite a new player) brings problems on their own. Its the same old people each version that run fams, only famnames change.
I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
As you already said, bugs don't get fixed and if they get fixed its more likely that it just brings more exploitable bugs instead of fixing the original problem. The current owner of the game seems to spend more time complaining about shameful gameplay on beyond than trying to fix the game. Unless he thinks adding random shit that nobody likes to .dm to be ''tested'' for a year and then brought into .com either not working as intended or bugged out. If you ask me it looks like they're milking the cow with as little work as possible...but the cow is about to run out of milk soon if the numbers of active players is anything to go by.
Nier|AFK at 12:33:25 on 11/09:
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.
All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?
Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.
In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.
What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.
They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
"What should happen with the game?", is a better question to ask. We can discuss about new features to make the game better or interesting, new things just make it more complicated while this game had the best times when it was plain simple, easy, accessable for new players, free to play, long versions, irc chat fun.
All those new things, what has it actually done to improve the game? Lackeys, HoF, family system/city map, new lay-out. It only brought bugs, more cheats, pay2win, no balance. On top of that there is extremely poor management of the game. Players are also part of the downfall, including me, why fight the cheaters if you can join and have more fun aye?
Lackeys can't be removed, none will play without. HoF and the rewards should be removed. City win (solo win) should always be the ending, that is the way this system should be played. I never saw this system work as it is built for. The new 5.0 layout looks fancy, but imo the old lay-out only required a re-style, not a total change.
In this case we come to the developer/management issues. It's ok to change and work on new things, long enough until it works properly. Make a beta version, and not .dm, a real beta version to make players test new things and let them play there. We can give feedback. There have been/are players willing to help. I have no experience on programming, but from the looks and extremely frequent bug appearances, I can be certain that none of the things are worked out properly and a lot of them were a hasty job.
What kind of developer are you if you make something and let it run in a game that people pay for while it is still full of bugs or very sensitive for bugs. It only requires testing. And if so, how can bugs return version after version? If you fix something, it should be a permanent fix. Reported bugs are not even fixed, often enough it's not fixed yet. While mister is already working on a new bugtastic fail feature to ruin the game even more. There is a lack of logic in the game also (racing for buying more bullets?!) Sorry, that is just poor management. And there is nothing we can do about that except for: stop paying and stop playing.
They have shown that they don't listen to player feedback, they don't care about quality, only about money and there is obviously a lack of professionality and skills concerned managing the game. So why bother, they can't even run the game atm, with all the bugs and bullshit. Shame for Omerta, if they only decided to invest in an application instead of lackeys..
You bring up several good points. This game has two major problems, one is that the playerbase is cancerous and toxic at best. Back in the days we had 50+ fams with atleast 20-40 shooters each, now we have at best 10 fams with those numbers. Having such a small playerbase and no new blood coming in (because lets be honest...kids that find this game in 2020 wont be staying around for long, especially not when they can't even get a faminvite since nobody want to take the risk to invite a new player) brings problems on their own. Its the same old people each version that run fams, only famnames change.
I remember some years ago there was a truckload of tops that wanted a meeting with the game crew, bringing good ideas on how to change the game. Nothing came out of that since the crew didn't bother to care. I thought we'd be better off when Brando left but nothing much changed, but atleast you cant get DC's for 1 euro a pop anymore if you donated to his Canyudo project anymore.
As you already said, bugs don't get fixed and if they get fixed its more likely that it just brings more exploitable bugs instead of fixing the original problem. The current owner of the game seems to spend more time complaining about shameful gameplay on beyond than trying to fix the game. Unless he thinks adding random shit that nobody likes to .dm to be ''tested'' for a year and then brought into .com either not working as intended or bugged out. If you ask me it looks like they're milking the cow with as little work as possible...but the cow is about to run out of milk soon if the numbers of active players is anything to go by.
gameowner only need 10 of this ego's to sell DC's so they can fund their 3mill bullets
Bro, u joined there family tho?
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