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Bugs Bugs Bugs?!
We just saw a few akills, which downed Righelli & Lucchese. So OBN started investigating what happened, speaking with some people to find out exactly what happpened.
A Top from a an unnamed family told OBN that he abused several bugs in Omerta. He only told Beyond about 2 in specific, but there are way and way more he told us. But these are the most used.
1. Bloodbank bug → When you have for example 99% health and you would go to the bloodbank and add the following DOM value in the input field "100e-2" you would end up with 199% health!
Here we have to ask, how long is this going on? Are there more families who knew about this? And what if they had all their members at 199% health, they just wouldn't be able to be brought down. I think of yesterdays war where tops of the attacking families state that Righelli highranks for example just didn't die. Same goes for countering families that said it was impossible to kill Messina accounts, while Messina was an agressor in the war, thus needing to have attack BG setups.
We have no proof here, but these are our first thoughts of course. We are not pointing any fingers!
2. Hitlist bug → So you want to hitlist a person but you don't have the required money? Another simple solution! If you would fill out "100e+6" in the input field you would hitlist a person for $100 million omerta dollars and it would only cost you $100 omerta dollars. Sounds like a fair deal to me!
We saw a lot of Messina people who got hitlisted a few days ago, and i think opponents of Messina may have used this bug to hitlist them.
Update: Some reporters saw, especially this version, rather weird bumps of money ingame. It was suddenly way higher than it ever was. An abuser explained to us how they did this.
They looked for a target, when they found him, they put this person on the hitlist and shot inmediatly. → free money!
Update²: If this is possible in the input fields at the Hitlist and the Bloodbank. Is it also possible to fill these codes in at all other input fields? If this is true it would mean that every aspect with an input field of the game could be abused by this bug. SH Time, Bullets used to shoot, Gambling, EVERYTHING.
We recieve images and logs from everyone that the bugs are also used to get extra RP and more bullets from the local factory then allowed.
A anonymous person showed me he bought 1337 units of beer as swindler and gained about 30% rank progess!
Another showed an image where he bought 10.000 bullets from the local factory. → http://i46.tinypic.com/2d7wqix.png
Should we start doubting at omerta and the "winners" of omerta the last few versions?
Lance Armstrong came clean yesterday, he told Oprah he used forbidden substitutes to perfom better and win the Tour de France. Did certain families also used these "methodes/substitutes" to win a version? or came out as winner in certain wars?
We just saw a few akills, which downed Righelli & Lucchese. So OBN started investigating what happened, speaking with some people to find out exactly what happpened.
A Top from a an unnamed family told OBN that he abused several bugs in Omerta. He only told Beyond about 2 in specific, but there are way and way more he told us. But these are the most used.
1. Bloodbank bug → When you have for example 99% health and you would go to the bloodbank and add the following DOM value in the input field "100e-2" you would end up with 199% health!
Here we have to ask, how long is this going on? Are there more families who knew about this? And what if they had all their members at 199% health, they just wouldn't be able to be brought down. I think of yesterdays war where tops of the attacking families state that Righelli highranks for example just didn't die. Same goes for countering families that said it was impossible to kill Messina accounts, while Messina was an agressor in the war, thus needing to have attack BG setups.
We have no proof here, but these are our first thoughts of course. We are not pointing any fingers!
2. Hitlist bug → So you want to hitlist a person but you don't have the required money? Another simple solution! If you would fill out "100e+6" in the input field you would hitlist a person for $100 million omerta dollars and it would only cost you $100 omerta dollars. Sounds like a fair deal to me!
We saw a lot of Messina people who got hitlisted a few days ago, and i think opponents of Messina may have used this bug to hitlist them.
Update: Some reporters saw, especially this version, rather weird bumps of money ingame. It was suddenly way higher than it ever was. An abuser explained to us how they did this.
They looked for a target, when they found him, they put this person on the hitlist and shot inmediatly. → free money!
Update²: If this is possible in the input fields at the Hitlist and the Bloodbank. Is it also possible to fill these codes in at all other input fields? If this is true it would mean that every aspect with an input field of the game could be abused by this bug. SH Time, Bullets used to shoot, Gambling, EVERYTHING.
We recieve images and logs from everyone that the bugs are also used to get extra RP and more bullets from the local factory then allowed.
A anonymous person showed me he bought 1337 units of beer as swindler and gained about 30% rank progess!
Another showed an image where he bought 10.000 bullets from the local factory. → http://i46.tinypic.com/2d7wqix.png
Should we start doubting at omerta and the "winners" of omerta the last few versions?
Lance Armstrong came clean yesterday, he told Oprah he used forbidden substitutes to perfom better and win the Tour de France. Did certain families also used these "methodes/substitutes" to win a version? or came out as winner in certain wars?
statements
/q sbanks | #beyond.info
statistics
| War started on: 14:49:02 18-01-2013 | War ended on: 15:01:00 18-01-2013 |
| Bullet difference: -1,481,519 | War duration: 11m |
| Money difference: -$1,065,804,084 | Players died: 19 |
deaths
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mokoko (15:47:32 - 18-01)
if is there a problem about "fields",it possible for lackey credits 2
Anonymous (15:46:05 - 18-01)
Mikee at 15:42:37 on 18/01:
very well arguments.
once again I ask you, would I die after 60k if i had 200% as 3.5 def?
You can ask my shooter how much damage I did in backfire, 30%:) So that kinda confirmes the 3.5 part.
Anonymous at 15:40:21 on 18/01:
you can deny it all you want..but it is a well known fact the you and your tops and loyal members AND you fam is famous for abusing bugs...
Mikee at 15:36:36 on 18/01:
if i had 200% i wouldnt die after 60k while still being 3.5 defence:)
but let's just see next time messina is under attack, we'll still die just as slow
Anonymous at 15:33:21 on 18/01:
Let me tell you something...it is a well known fact that Messina was abusing this bloodbank bug...ask an top who has alot of connections with fams and you will get it confirmed... so cut the crap Pannajunk
Let me tell you something...it is a well known fact that Messina was abusing this bloodbank bug...ask an top who has alot of connections with fams and you will get it confirmed... so cut the crap Pannajunk
but let's just see next time messina is under attack, we'll still die just as slow
you can deny it all you want..but it is a well known fact the you and your tops and loyal members AND you fam is famous for abusing bugs...
once again I ask you, would I die after 60k if i had 200% as 3.5 def?
You can ask my shooter how much damage I did in backfire, 30%:) So that kinda confirmes the 3.5 part.
So you are saying that nobody from your loyal rankers and tops is abusing? :')
Well after their "fancy" post regarding the two dead families I sincerely hope they can come up with a proper apology and confirmation that these bugs are actually FIXED now.
But then again, these "admins" we have rather talk a lot of smack when in reality they can't even prevent this nonsense from happening.
There goes any of the little trust I had in their efforts.
Not ignoring the good things they do, but they've gone mad with this last post of theirs.. 10 steps on how to lose normal and fair ranking players in 1 day ?
Kill an entire family for a few users actions, then bugs like these come out.
What a good day for the hard truth.
But then again, these "admins" we have rather talk a lot of smack when in reality they can't even prevent this nonsense from happening.
There goes any of the little trust I had in their efforts.
Not ignoring the good things they do, but they've gone mad with this last post of theirs.. 10 steps on how to lose normal and fair ranking players in 1 day ?
Kill an entire family for a few users actions, then bugs like these come out.
What a good day for the hard truth.
Anonymous (15:45:15 - 18-01)
Stop at 15:31:40 on 18/01:
Immediately a reset with all bug's fixed , bring back old omerta with cd's on it !!!!!
Immediately a reset with all bug's fixed , bring back old omerta with cd's on it !!!!!
best comment of the day ^^
Smul at 15:41:42 on 18/01:
Why are you attacking me personally? Frustrated much? Have you seen who wrote this article. My only comment I made in this topic was actually Pro-Messina.
PannaJunk at 15:39:22 on 18/01:
Messina tops are legit to, why do you drag them in this news topic ?
Smul at 15:35:03 on 18/01:
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
PannaJunk at 15:32:59 on 18/01:
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
Messina tops are legit to, why do you drag them in this news topic ?
Why are you attacking me personally? Frustrated much? Have you seen who wrote this article. My only comment I made in this topic was actually Pro-Messina.
I drag you in because you had a strong acc too and since you are OB crew dont point fingers to sbanks. If sbanks led dig it i would mention him. I dont know if you cheated Smul and tbh i wouldnt care the fact is people are named in this topic who arent even proven guilty. Write about a fam who just got gaught not about a fam who didnt got gaught.
Someone's got some sand in his vagina...
If you didnt get it yet, it's Panna's vagina! :D
If you didnt get it yet, it's Panna's vagina! :D
Anonymous at 15:40:21 on 18/01:
you can deny it all you want..but it is a well known fact the you and your tops and loyal members AND you fam is famous for abusing bugs...
Mikee at 15:36:36 on 18/01:
if i had 200% i wouldnt die after 60k while still being 3.5 defence:)
but let's just see next time messina is under attack, we'll still die just as slow
Anonymous at 15:33:21 on 18/01:
Let me tell you something...it is a well known fact that Messina was abusing this bloodbank bug...ask an top who has alot of connections with fams and you will get it confirmed... so cut the crap Pannajunk
Let me tell you something...it is a well known fact that Messina was abusing this bloodbank bug...ask an top who has alot of connections with fams and you will get it confirmed... so cut the crap Pannajunk
but let's just see next time messina is under attack, we'll still die just as slow
you can deny it all you want..but it is a well known fact the you and your tops and loyal members AND you fam is famous for abusing bugs...
once again I ask you, would I die after 60k if i had 200% as 3.5 def?
You can ask my shooter how much damage I did in backfire, 30%:) So that kinda confirmes the 3.5 part.
Arcanine at 15:27:15 on 18/01:
What do these codes mean anyway?
It makes no sense that there is some kind of magic code like 100e-2 that gives you stuff.
Developer gone rogue?
What do these codes mean anyway?
It makes no sense that there is some kind of magic code like 100e-2 that gives you stuff.
Developer gone rogue?
explanation #1
explanation #2
same what u see on calculators
also PHP just sees this a normal number, so it has always been possible, weird admins never protected the input fields
PannaJunk at 15:39:22 on 18/01:
Messina tops are legit to, why do you drag them in this news topic ?
Smul at 15:35:03 on 18/01:
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
PannaJunk at 15:32:59 on 18/01:
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
Messina tops are legit to, why do you drag them in this news topic ?
Why are you attacking me personally? Frustrated much? Have you seen who wrote this article. My only comment I made in this topic was actually Pro-Messina.
Anonymous (15:41:30 - 18-01)
PannaJunk at 15:39:22 on 18/01:
Messina tops are legit to, why do you drag them in this news topic ?
Smul at 15:35:03 on 18/01:
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
PannaJunk at 15:32:59 on 18/01:
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
Messina tops are legit to, why do you drag them in this news topic ?
I just lol'd
Anonymous (15:40:35 - 18-01)
Anonymous at 15:29:44 on 18/01:
Its just standard math. It's the short way to put a big number. E-2 means you gotta add 2x 0 behind the number
so 100 e-6= 100.000.000
Arcanine at 15:27:15 on 18/01:
What do these codes mean anyway?
It makes no sense that there is some kind of magic code like 100e-2 that gives you stuff.
Developer gone rogue?
What do these codes mean anyway?
It makes no sense that there is some kind of magic code like 100e-2 that gives you stuff.
Developer gone rogue?
Its just standard math. It's the short way to put a big number. E-2 means you gotta add 2x 0 behind the number
so 100 e-6= 100.000.000
Of course, and the game would only read the "100", thus the payment was only 100.
^_^ (15:40:26 - 18-01)
if this is real than every player are effected from this cuz they shot the undead players and get shot by them so what does that leave to us ?
Anonymous (15:40:21 - 18-01)
Mikee at 15:36:36 on 18/01:
if i had 200% i wouldnt die after 60k while still being 3.5 defence:)
but let's just see next time messina is under attack, we'll still die just as slow
Anonymous at 15:33:21 on 18/01:
Let me tell you something...it is a well known fact that Messina was abusing this bloodbank bug...ask an top who has alot of connections with fams and you will get it confirmed... so cut the crap Pannajunk
Let me tell you something...it is a well known fact that Messina was abusing this bloodbank bug...ask an top who has alot of connections with fams and you will get it confirmed... so cut the crap Pannajunk
but let's just see next time messina is under attack, we'll still die just as slow
you can deny it all you want..but it is a well known fact the you and your tops and loyal members AND you fam is famous for abusing bugs...
Lance Armstrong came clean yesterday, he told Oprah he used forbidden substitutes to perfom better and win the Tour de France. Did certain families also used these "methodes/substitutes" to win a version? or came out as winner in certain wars?
I always use Growth hormones to get directly from Empty-Suit to Bruglione. Problem?
I always use Growth hormones to get directly from Empty-Suit to Bruglione. Problem?
Smul at 15:35:03 on 18/01:
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
PannaJunk at 15:32:59 on 18/01:
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
Messina tops are legit to, why do you drag them in this news topic ?
Anonymous (15:38:52 - 18-01)
Smul at 15:35:03 on 18/01:
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
PannaJunk at 15:32:59 on 18/01:
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.
atleast you can say the your accounts were legit Smul... Panna cant :')
Toeffen (15:37:00 - 18-01)
Well. Almost all Messina brugs had 5 * 10 defense which is a really hard setup to penetrate, unless you shoot every time its possible. Something the atters did not do. Yet we lost 5 brugs.
If you're so eager to point fingers, maybe you should look at Righelli. They only lost 1 brug in the first wave last night, and their don just got akilled for hitlist abuse.
If you're so eager to point fingers, maybe you should look at Righelli. They only lost 1 brug in the first wave last night, and their don just got akilled for hitlist abuse.
Anonymous at 15:33:21 on 18/01:
Let me tell you something...it is a well known fact that Messina was abusing this bloodbank bug...ask an top who has alot of connections with fams and you will get it confirmed... so cut the crap Pannajunk
Let me tell you something...it is a well known fact that Messina was abusing this bloodbank bug...ask an top who has alot of connections with fams and you will get it confirmed... so cut the crap Pannajunk
but let's just see next time messina is under attack, we'll still die just as slow
PannaJunk at 15:32:59 on 18/01:
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?
Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.
It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.
You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.