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Memento and Gravano are getting shot by the Provenzano and Fidelitas alliance.
Only 1 update from the statistics page later and chaos ensues. Lucchese, Gigolos, Ataraxia, Leviticus, Provenzano and Vedici gangsters are dropping on the floor breathing their last breathes.
Tattaglia+ is shooting Leviticus. They brought Leviticus down in 1 swift wave.
Messina+ seems to be countering on Fidelitas.
ISPP is countering on Provenzano.
Messina+ is getting shot by a group of families; Krays, Samagono, Destination and famless Leviticus members.
Lucchese is getting hit by a collective of families, the Psychonymous alliance, the Purgatory alliance, Snatch and Samyo are the assailants.
Cristeria is aiming at Destination and Hattrickelli.
Connection leaps into the war, shooting at Provenzano.
Catania is going after the Psychonymous alliance.
And the constant flow of families jumping in doesn't seem to stop as Righelli jumps in, shooting at the Psychonymous alliance. After that they proceded by shooting at Samyo. After their waves against Samyo decimated Samyo significantly they also took Snatch as their targets.
Leone is shooting at the Psychonymous alliance.
Marazzino jumped in for their bloods, they are shooting at Samyo.
Tattaglia started shooting at Fidelitas.
Ilimitada started shooting at Tattaglia and is currently being shot at themselves.
Only 1 update from the statistics page later and chaos ensues. Lucchese, Gigolos, Ataraxia, Leviticus, Provenzano and Vedici gangsters are dropping on the floor breathing their last breathes.
Tattaglia+ is shooting Leviticus. They brought Leviticus down in 1 swift wave.
Messina+ seems to be countering on Fidelitas.
ISPP is countering on Provenzano.
Messina+ is getting shot by a group of families; Krays, Samagono, Destination and famless Leviticus members.
Lucchese is getting hit by a collective of families, the Psychonymous alliance, the Purgatory alliance, Snatch and Samyo are the assailants.
Cristeria is aiming at Destination and Hattrickelli.
Connection leaps into the war, shooting at Provenzano.
Catania is going after the Psychonymous alliance.
And the constant flow of families jumping in doesn't seem to stop as Righelli jumps in, shooting at the Psychonymous alliance. After that they proceded by shooting at Samyo. After their waves against Samyo decimated Samyo significantly they also took Snatch as their targets.
Leone is shooting at the Psychonymous alliance.
Marazzino jumped in for their bloods, they are shooting at Samyo.
Tattaglia started shooting at Fidelitas.
Ilimitada started shooting at Tattaglia and is currently being shot at themselves.
statements
Fidelitas Statement:
There's talk of an "anti-pact". We definitely haven't been part of a thing like that. Our joining this war was necessisated by the following:
In order to trick fams into shooting us, Memento and a few more were daily wagging their tongue. Knowing they wanted us dead we acted first. That's all.
A thanks goes out to all our loyal members who don't hesitate a second to walk towards their destiny. A further thanks to our bloods, especially Ilimitada who has shared our fate while doing justice to the term 'blood'.
Peace out!
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| War started on: 19:30:01 11-01-2013 | War ended on: 21:04:00 12-01-2013 |
| Bullet difference: -73,297,748 | War duration: 1d 1h 33m |
| Money difference: -$5,792,227,388 | Players died: 590 |
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flingo'byebye (19:05:47 - 12-01)
Anonymous (18:57:28 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 16:19:37 on 12/01:
the mistakes of the anti-pact fams from the beginning ;
1. turkuz and jannisary picked lucchese as the target and countered by many fams even by their ex blood marazzino.
if they had picked a weaker pact fam like as memento-cristeria-catania-tattaglia , there wouldnt be a huge counter like that one.
2.wrong timing. the fams who shot last night supposed act meanwhile pact was shooting their own blood penta. it would be easier to kill more brugs from the pact when their bg settings were 'attack'
3.the fams who shot last night , again picked the wrong targets. they had to pick 1 or 2 targets max. and killed them as fas as they can. if they could manage it , counter would be weaker.
so dont blame anyone, except yourself ;)
p.s: im also so curious why kuro-favi-tempe and the fams like them , still waiting? do they realy thing that they have a chance to see the finish line?
the mistakes of the anti-pact fams from the beginning ;
1. turkuz and jannisary picked lucchese as the target and countered by many fams even by their ex blood marazzino.
if they had picked a weaker pact fam like as memento-cristeria-catania-tattaglia , there wouldnt be a huge counter like that one.
2.wrong timing. the fams who shot last night supposed act meanwhile pact was shooting their own blood penta. it would be easier to kill more brugs from the pact when their bg settings were 'attack'
3.the fams who shot last night , again picked the wrong targets. they had to pick 1 or 2 targets max. and killed them as fas as they can. if they could manage it , counter would be weaker.
so dont blame anyone, except yourself ;)
p.s: im also so curious why kuro-favi-tempe and the fams like them , still waiting? do they realy thing that they have a chance to see the finish line?
Some wrong assumptions.
1. Most fams that shot yesterday where not even connected to bloodship at all. You put a nice leash on Moronzino. I know most of the pact side, do not like or trust them. And they have been told, you try to fuck with us, we will shoot your (Moronzino) lousy asses within moments.
2. TBH most of the fams yesterday wanted to see pentagram gone as badly as you. I know quite a few people who were tempted to hire on them, too just for sake of getting those fucks out.
3. I agree in general. But last version we saw fams jumping in for pact fams that were not directly blooded to them. Something pact tps always denied would happen.
The amount of self-denial amazes me. It really does. You have all the top 10 fams connected via bloodships and yet you still need some additional bloods like Catania? I mean you complained about those (turkish) mass asone faggotries (and rightly so), and yet you are not one bit better. And now the self-denial continues: "We needed to grow bigger because of the Turks"
Right. It was so necessary to grow that big, that Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ died alone. But again self-denial at its best.
And yes, if it makes you feel any better assume this is just whining/crying/whatever. Have fun finishing this version with 15 fams.
Anonymous (17:15:06 - 12-01)
The problem is mass duping from players paying for DCs, so no akills from admins. Then the tops of the family's control a number of accounts created from a cheat. So for players to blame "pacts" is wrong! Look in the fucking mirror people. Back to retirement now, enjoy your cheated game lady's :w
Anonymous (16:58:08 - 12-01)
Even if all these 3wars were combined in one, with the "Anti-pact" as the shooters, they would still have less Brugs+.
(Assuming that all the losing families lost all their brugs):
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution: "Anti-pact" had/lost 84 Brugs
10-01 The As1 affaire: "Anti-pact" had/lost 70 Brugs+
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!: "Anti-pact" had/lost 214 Brugs+
Resulting on aproximately 368 Brugs+
On the other side, the pact had:
106+3+21 (the lost Brugs+ on the 3 wars), plus the ones they still have: 388
Resulting on aproximately 518 Brugs+
So the pact side would always be bigger, but ofc, if all the "Anti-pact" fams attacked at once the damaged would have been bigger.
(Assuming that all the losing families lost all their brugs):
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution: "Anti-pact" had/lost 84 Brugs
10-01 The As1 affaire: "Anti-pact" had/lost 70 Brugs+
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!: "Anti-pact" had/lost 214 Brugs+
Resulting on aproximately 368 Brugs+
On the other side, the pact had:
106+3+21 (the lost Brugs+ on the 3 wars), plus the ones they still have: 388
Resulting on aproximately 518 Brugs+
So the pact side would always be bigger, but ofc, if all the "Anti-pact" fams attacked at once the damaged would have been bigger.
Anonymous (16:58:07 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 16:40:47 on 12/01:
I only agree with you in the PS note.
There was nothing to do, the pact outnumbered the experienced players of the anti-pact in a ratio of 3 to 1, regardless of what the OB live alliance says, you know what I mean.
In the other hand, if the admins gets rids of the money bug and the massive dupes, the history is gonna be so different next version!
btw, I had killed 6 brugs as a Chiefs, killed in the last one in BF, KA is a fuckign joke
Anonymous at 16:19:37 on 12/01:
the mistakes of the anti-pact fams from the beginning ;
1. turkuz and jannisary picked lucchese as the target and countered by many fams even by their ex blood marazzino.
if they had picked a weaker pact fam like as memento-cristeria-catania-tattaglia , there wouldnt be a huge counter like that one.
2.wrong timing. the fams who shot last night supposed act meanwhile pact was shooting their own blood penta. it would be easier to kill more brugs from the pact when their bg settings were 'attack'
3.the fams who shot last night , again picked the wrong targets. they had to pick 1 or 2 targets max. and killed them as fas as they can. if they could manage it , counter would be weaker.
so dont blame anyone, except yourself ;)
p.s: im also so curious why kuro-favi-tempe and the fams like them , still waiting? do they realy thing that they have a chance to see the finish line?
the mistakes of the anti-pact fams from the beginning ;
1. turkuz and jannisary picked lucchese as the target and countered by many fams even by their ex blood marazzino.
if they had picked a weaker pact fam like as memento-cristeria-catania-tattaglia , there wouldnt be a huge counter like that one.
2.wrong timing. the fams who shot last night supposed act meanwhile pact was shooting their own blood penta. it would be easier to kill more brugs from the pact when their bg settings were 'attack'
3.the fams who shot last night , again picked the wrong targets. they had to pick 1 or 2 targets max. and killed them as fas as they can. if they could manage it , counter would be weaker.
so dont blame anyone, except yourself ;)
p.s: im also so curious why kuro-favi-tempe and the fams like them , still waiting? do they realy thing that they have a chance to see the finish line?
I only agree with you in the PS note.
There was nothing to do, the pact outnumbered the experienced players of the anti-pact in a ratio of 3 to 1, regardless of what the OB live alliance says, you know what I mean.
In the other hand, if the admins gets rids of the money bug and the massive dupes, the history is gonna be so different next version!
btw, I had killed 6 brugs as a Chiefs, killed in the last one in BF, KA is a fuckign joke
so dont you agree with no 2 ? its always easier to hunt your enemy when they were on attack mode. otherwise you have to spend many bullets on messina full defence accounts ;)
Anonymous (16:40:47 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 16:19:37 on 12/01:
the mistakes of the anti-pact fams from the beginning ;
1. turkuz and jannisary picked lucchese as the target and countered by many fams even by their ex blood marazzino.
if they had picked a weaker pact fam like as memento-cristeria-catania-tattaglia , there wouldnt be a huge counter like that one.
2.wrong timing. the fams who shot last night supposed act meanwhile pact was shooting their own blood penta. it would be easier to kill more brugs from the pact when their bg settings were 'attack'
3.the fams who shot last night , again picked the wrong targets. they had to pick 1 or 2 targets max. and killed them as fas as they can. if they could manage it , counter would be weaker.
so dont blame anyone, except yourself ;)
p.s: im also so curious why kuro-favi-tempe and the fams like them , still waiting? do they realy thing that they have a chance to see the finish line?
the mistakes of the anti-pact fams from the beginning ;
1. turkuz and jannisary picked lucchese as the target and countered by many fams even by their ex blood marazzino.
if they had picked a weaker pact fam like as memento-cristeria-catania-tattaglia , there wouldnt be a huge counter like that one.
2.wrong timing. the fams who shot last night supposed act meanwhile pact was shooting their own blood penta. it would be easier to kill more brugs from the pact when their bg settings were 'attack'
3.the fams who shot last night , again picked the wrong targets. they had to pick 1 or 2 targets max. and killed them as fas as they can. if they could manage it , counter would be weaker.
so dont blame anyone, except yourself ;)
p.s: im also so curious why kuro-favi-tempe and the fams like them , still waiting? do they realy thing that they have a chance to see the finish line?
I only agree with you in the PS note.
There was nothing to do, the pact outnumbered the experienced players of the anti-pact in a ratio of 3 to 1, regardless of what the OB live alliance says, you know what I mean.
In the other hand, if the admins gets rids of the money bug and the massive dupes, the history is gonna be so different next version!
btw, I had killed 6 brugs as a Chiefs, killed in the last one in BF, KA is a fuckign joke
annnooyynnmm (16:31:46 - 12-01)
fallen atacker fams = 18
fallen defender fams : 0
so what r u tlaking about msitakes past etc.
18 fams is enough for being another pact
fallen defender fams : 0
so what r u tlaking about msitakes past etc.
18 fams is enough for being another pact
ReBorN at 16:06:03 on 12/01:
I'm not going to say how I would have planned the war but, there was a way to strike without having such a massive counter attack. What would have happened after the war was over would depend on how good or bad the shooting went and what the attackers planned to do next.
You guys just think you have to shoot everyone all at once and that's not true. You just have to do your homework a little better.
I'm not going to say how I would have planned the war but, there was a way to strike without having such a massive counter attack. What would have happened after the war was over would depend on how good or bad the shooting went and what the attackers planned to do next.
You guys just think you have to shoot everyone all at once and that's not true. You just have to do your homework a little better.
I think homework was done good enough by certain people.
But then comes the part where you have to please all the different people/sides/families that you have to get in to actually make the war against this group of fams work, and then it always fucks up, as, unlike with your side, these people all have different ideas/views on how to proceed, who to target, what to do and how to do it. And if not enough of their points are met? Tears will be shed.
Maybe you never had to deal with that as you have a large playerbase between you and your bloods, big enough to counter any opposing side that might arise. Unlike most other families. If you haven't experienced that you are a lucky man indeed.
And not everyone was shot all at once. Just read the war report and you'll see how the war was planned.
Next to that, I think the defender side caught a very lucky break in this war. With the timing of the leak. So don't try to bust the balls of people that planned this war. Instead of trying to make a smart remark about homework needing to be done better.
Anonymous (16:19:37 - 12-01)
the mistakes of the anti-pact fams from the beginning ;
1. turkuz and jannisary picked lucchese as the target and countered by many fams even by their ex blood marazzino.
if they had picked a weaker pact fam like as memento-cristeria-catania-tattaglia , there wouldnt be a huge counter like that one.
2.wrong timing. the fams who shot last night supposed act meanwhile pact was shooting their own blood penta. it would be easier to kill more brugs from the pact when their bg settings were 'attack'
3.the fams who shot last night , again picked the wrong targets. they had to pick 1 or 2 targets max. and killed them as fas as they can. if they could manage it , counter would be weaker.
so dont blame anyone, except yourself ;)
p.s: im also so curious why kuro-favi-tempe and the fams like them , still waiting? do they realy thing that they have a chance to see the finish line?
1. turkuz and jannisary picked lucchese as the target and countered by many fams even by their ex blood marazzino.
if they had picked a weaker pact fam like as memento-cristeria-catania-tattaglia , there wouldnt be a huge counter like that one.
2.wrong timing. the fams who shot last night supposed act meanwhile pact was shooting their own blood penta. it would be easier to kill more brugs from the pact when their bg settings were 'attack'
3.the fams who shot last night , again picked the wrong targets. they had to pick 1 or 2 targets max. and killed them as fas as they can. if they could manage it , counter would be weaker.
so dont blame anyone, except yourself ;)
p.s: im also so curious why kuro-favi-tempe and the fams like them , still waiting? do they realy thing that they have a chance to see the finish line?
I'm not going to say how I would have planned the war but, there was a way to strike without having such a massive counter attack. What would have happened after the war was over would depend on how good or bad the shooting went and what the attackers planned to do next.
You guys just think you have to shoot everyone all at once and that's not true. You just have to do your homework a little better.
You guys just think you have to shoot everyone all at once and that's not true. You just have to do your homework a little better.
Anonymous at 15:29:48 on 12/01:
No it wouldn't... If the attacking side had more than enough brugs on Lucchese to take them down fast. If Lucchese was down, lucchese's bloods would probably just have sticked to shooting Samyo and Psycho alliance. There would be no more use to shoot purgatory & snatch immediatly because there's no family to safe.
Problem is, you take so many targets and drag so many brugs of your own into this, the war takes ages. A slow war can get very messy quickly, because the longer the war takes the more people hop on to the wartrain.
Can you prevent losses? No.. If the opponent has proper bloods, you will have losses and you have to accept those losses.
Smul at 15:21:17 on 12/01:
Again that's something you read a shitload.
I doubt it would be any different if you, say, target just Lucchese. Because if you target Lucchese, you'll have to consider a counter of 6 families; Gravano Messina, Memento, Catania, Marazzino and of course Righelli. With this KA, you can't let those families have free counters on you, now can you? So you'll have to have back up for families. Then your back ups (what is exactly the same as what happened now..) will shoot against those bloods, and those bloods' bloods will jump in (exactly the same as what happened now).
And conclusion: War will look exactly the same as now.
ReBorN at 15:16:46 on 12/01:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reason these are such big wars and the reason you usually lose these wars is because you plan your wars terribly wrong. By shooting all the families in "the pact", as you like to call it, you bring in each and everyone of their bloods. If you would plan the war better and pick your targets better that would never happen.
While Lucchese players played AMAZING during this war, I can honestly say our bloods played better. If it weren't for them this war would have ended much differently! Thank you so much to all our members, you guys are awesome! And a HUGE thank you to our bloods. I wouldn't want anyone else standing by my side!!
Respect to everyone involved, even the shooters. It was a fun and epic night!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reason these are such big wars and the reason you usually lose these wars is because you plan your wars terribly wrong. By shooting all the families in "the pact", as you like to call it, you bring in each and everyone of their bloods. If you would plan the war better and pick your targets better that would never happen.
While Lucchese players played AMAZING during this war, I can honestly say our bloods played better. If it weren't for them this war would have ended much differently! Thank you so much to all our members, you guys are awesome! And a HUGE thank you to our bloods. I wouldn't want anyone else standing by my side!!
Respect to everyone involved, even the shooters. It was a fun and epic night!
Again that's something you read a shitload.
I doubt it would be any different if you, say, target just Lucchese. Because if you target Lucchese, you'll have to consider a counter of 6 families; Gravano Messina, Memento, Catania, Marazzino and of course Righelli. With this KA, you can't let those families have free counters on you, now can you? So you'll have to have back up for families. Then your back ups (what is exactly the same as what happened now..) will shoot against those bloods, and those bloods' bloods will jump in (exactly the same as what happened now).
And conclusion: War will look exactly the same as now.
No it wouldn't... If the attacking side had more than enough brugs on Lucchese to take them down fast. If Lucchese was down, lucchese's bloods would probably just have sticked to shooting Samyo and Psycho alliance. There would be no more use to shoot purgatory & snatch immediatly because there's no family to safe.
Problem is, you take so many targets and drag so many brugs of your own into this, the war takes ages. A slow war can get very messy quickly, because the longer the war takes the more people hop on to the wartrain.
Can you prevent losses? No.. If the opponent has proper bloods, you will have losses and you have to accept those losses.
Hmm, I doubt that that's entirely true tbh, best example for that is the Carneglia war in 3.2, even though it was anticipated to become a shitstorm.
Only Carneglia was targeted back then (and taken down swiftly), yet it still became (one of) the most chaotic wars of the version.
If you target and kill 1 of the core families you'd better be prepared for a shitstorm too. As that shit will get much more messy than what you make it seem like now.
Anonymous (15:30:23 - 12-01)
*The attacking side had more than enough brugs on Lucchese (is what I wanted to say) :)
Anonymous (15:30:21 - 12-01)
Btw, this war proves that if you have even 1 attacking guard and get shot with 60,000 you are dead in 90% of the cases.
Its beyond a fucking joke now, for 3 versions in a row.
Its beyond a fucking joke now, for 3 versions in a row.
Anonymous (15:29:48 - 12-01)
Smul at 15:21:17 on 12/01:
Again that's something you read a shitload.
I doubt it would be any different if you, say, target just Lucchese. Because if you target Lucchese, you'll have to consider a counter of 6 families; Gravano Messina, Memento, Catania, Marazzino and of course Righelli. With this KA, you can't let those families have free counters on you, now can you? So you'll have to have back up for families. Then your back ups (what is exactly the same as what happened now..) will shoot against those bloods, and those bloods' bloods will jump in (exactly the same as what happened now).
And conclusion: War will look exactly the same as now.
ReBorN at 15:16:46 on 12/01:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reason these are such big wars and the reason you usually lose these wars is because you plan your wars terribly wrong. By shooting all the families in "the pact", as you like to call it, you bring in each and everyone of their bloods. If you would plan the war better and pick your targets better that would never happen.
While Lucchese players played AMAZING during this war, I can honestly say our bloods played better. If it weren't for them this war would have ended much differently! Thank you so much to all our members, you guys are awesome! And a HUGE thank you to our bloods. I wouldn't want anyone else standing by my side!!
Respect to everyone involved, even the shooters. It was a fun and epic night!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reason these are such big wars and the reason you usually lose these wars is because you plan your wars terribly wrong. By shooting all the families in "the pact", as you like to call it, you bring in each and everyone of their bloods. If you would plan the war better and pick your targets better that would never happen.
While Lucchese players played AMAZING during this war, I can honestly say our bloods played better. If it weren't for them this war would have ended much differently! Thank you so much to all our members, you guys are awesome! And a HUGE thank you to our bloods. I wouldn't want anyone else standing by my side!!
Respect to everyone involved, even the shooters. It was a fun and epic night!
Again that's something you read a shitload.
I doubt it would be any different if you, say, target just Lucchese. Because if you target Lucchese, you'll have to consider a counter of 6 families; Gravano Messina, Memento, Catania, Marazzino and of course Righelli. With this KA, you can't let those families have free counters on you, now can you? So you'll have to have back up for families. Then your back ups (what is exactly the same as what happened now..) will shoot against those bloods, and those bloods' bloods will jump in (exactly the same as what happened now).
And conclusion: War will look exactly the same as now.
No it wouldn't... If the attacking side had more than enough brugs on Lucchese to take them down fast. If Lucchese was down, lucchese's bloods would probably just have sticked to shooting Samyo and Psycho alliance. There would be no more use to shoot purgatory & snatch immediatly because there's no family to safe.
Problem is, you take so many targets and drag so many brugs of your own into this, the war takes ages. A slow war can get very messy quickly, because the longer the war takes the more people hop on to the wartrain.
Can you prevent losses? No.. If the opponent has proper bloods, you will have losses and you have to accept those losses.
ReBorN at 15:16:46 on 12/01:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reason these are such big wars and the reason you usually lose these wars is because you plan your wars terribly wrong. By shooting all the families in "the pact", as you like to call it, you bring in each and everyone of their bloods. If you would plan the war better and pick your targets better that would never happen.
While Lucchese players played AMAZING during this war, I can honestly say our bloods played better. If it weren't for them this war would have ended much differently! Thank you so much to all our members, you guys are awesome! And a HUGE thank you to our bloods. I wouldn't want anyone else standing by my side!!
Respect to everyone involved, even the shooters. It was a fun and epic night!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reason these are such big wars and the reason you usually lose these wars is because you plan your wars terribly wrong. By shooting all the families in "the pact", as you like to call it, you bring in each and everyone of their bloods. If you would plan the war better and pick your targets better that would never happen.
While Lucchese players played AMAZING during this war, I can honestly say our bloods played better. If it weren't for them this war would have ended much differently! Thank you so much to all our members, you guys are awesome! And a HUGE thank you to our bloods. I wouldn't want anyone else standing by my side!!
Respect to everyone involved, even the shooters. It was a fun and epic night!
Again that's something you read a shitload.
I doubt it would be any different if you, say, target just Lucchese. Because if you target Lucchese, you'll have to consider a counter of 6 families; Gravano Messina, Memento, Catania, Marazzino and of course Righelli. With this KA, you can't let those families have free counters on you, now can you? So you'll have to have back up for families. Then your back ups (what is exactly the same as what happened now..) will shoot against those bloods, and those bloods' bloods will jump in (exactly the same as what happened now).
And conclusion: War will look exactly the same as now.
Anonymous (15:20:22 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 14:53:14 on 12/01:
Then just don't work with them, lose 1 or 2 versions so families like Liberta and messina know it's not needed to blood so many other families again.
Action is reaction, by chosing to attack with massive force the other side will automaticly change because of that next version.
Anonymous at 14:33:39 on 12/01:
can' t *
Anonymous at 14:32:23 on 12/01:
these fams have to coop with fams the consider enemies. this doesnt have to be the problem but where there is 3or4 different leading fams. its becomes harder and harded + there is fams you simply can work with
Anonymous at 14:09:20 on 12/01:
Funny thing is, you guys see every family as a pact. If you'd organise the war properly, you'd do way more damage and you'd see the pact is actually not EVERYWHERE, just because some families are blooded to one another doesn't make them THE PACT aswell..
And that's what your problem is, you see the pact everywhere so you start a war against way too many families (and the wrong families). Next to that, the shooting was very poor once again, some top3 guys from families that were under attack were out of SH for hours not receiving a shot and some offliner gets shot twice within an hour.
`Donalo`Sixx at 13:49:50 on 12/01:
One thing you might have missed is the fact that the other 50% of the game "Anti-pact" doesn't actually like each other and isn't really connected in any way, where as the other side is engaged in one big circle jerk (presumably while they all agree how n00b turks are and how n00b everyone else is)
Correct if everyone on other side of the game wanted to get together and have meaningful cooperation then the numbers would add up.
There is no gulf in class between "pact" and the rest of fams in the game. There are crappy useless fams on both sides.
Drimacus at 11:36:57 on 12/01:
+1
incompetent
1. Unskilled, lacking normally expected degree of ability.
Anonymous at 10:58:47 on 12/01:
Really, just get the fuck out of here.
When you folks had the oppurtunity to shoot first you all fucked up bigtime with terrible first waves. Do you remember the Turkuz night?
Their is a big gulf in class in quality between pact players and the others.
Anonymous at 10:45:41 on 12/01:
dear omerta,
I have enjoyed the last few nights with all the shooting. It took a shitload of fams to try and kill this so called pact. It didnt work out because they outnumber the rest of us. Before wars even started, around 40% of all highranks was part of this " pact". Its almost impossible for normal fams to compete with this big side.
BLABLA
dear omerta,
I have enjoyed the last few nights with all the shooting. It took a shitload of fams to try and kill this so called pact. It didnt work out because they outnumber the rest of us. Before wars even started, around 40% of all highranks was part of this " pact". Its almost impossible for normal fams to compete with this big side.
BLABLA
Really, just get the fuck out of here.
When you folks had the oppurtunity to shoot first you all fucked up bigtime with terrible first waves. Do you remember the Turkuz night?
Their is a big gulf in class in quality between pact players and the others.
+1
incompetent
1. Unskilled, lacking normally expected degree of ability.
One thing you might have missed is the fact that the other 50% of the game "Anti-pact" doesn't actually like each other and isn't really connected in any way, where as the other side is engaged in one big circle jerk (presumably while they all agree how n00b turks are and how n00b everyone else is)
Correct if everyone on other side of the game wanted to get together and have meaningful cooperation then the numbers would add up.
There is no gulf in class between "pact" and the rest of fams in the game. There are crappy useless fams on both sides.
Funny thing is, you guys see every family as a pact. If you'd organise the war properly, you'd do way more damage and you'd see the pact is actually not EVERYWHERE, just because some families are blooded to one another doesn't make them THE PACT aswell..
And that's what your problem is, you see the pact everywhere so you start a war against way too many families (and the wrong families). Next to that, the shooting was very poor once again, some top3 guys from families that were under attack were out of SH for hours not receiving a shot and some offliner gets shot twice within an hour.
these fams have to coop with fams the consider enemies. this doesnt have to be the problem but where there is 3or4 different leading fams. its becomes harder and harded + there is fams you simply can work with
can' t *
Then just don't work with them, lose 1 or 2 versions so families like Liberta and messina know it's not needed to blood so many other families again.
Action is reaction, by chosing to attack with massive force the other side will automaticly change because of that next version.
Action is reaction. What is the action, what the reaction?
Just when things were about to go into a healthy direction, Messina and co decided to repeat their mass blood circle. Did you ever wonder why Jannisary and Turkuz died alone and other fams didn't shoot like it was done in 3.4, 3.5, 3.51?
"Turks play a bad game and need to get cleaned!" Surprisingly Tattaglia is an exception for fams like Gravano and Messina. Why?
Try to find the answers to those questions and you'll see where the action, where the problem lies.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The reason these are such big wars and the reason you usually lose these wars is because you plan your wars terribly wrong. By shooting all the families in "the pact", as you like to call it, you bring in each and everyone of their bloods. If you would plan the war better and pick your targets better that would never happen.
While Lucchese players played AMAZING during this war, I can honestly say our bloods played better. If it weren't for them this war would have ended much differently! Thank you so much to all our members, you guys are awesome! And a HUGE thank you to our bloods. I wouldn't want anyone else standing by my side!!
Respect to everyone involved, even the shooters. It was a fun and epic night!
While Lucchese players played AMAZING during this war, I can honestly say our bloods played better. If it weren't for them this war would have ended much differently! Thank you so much to all our members, you guys are awesome! And a HUGE thank you to our bloods. I wouldn't want anyone else standing by my side!!
Respect to everyone involved, even the shooters. It was a fun and epic night!
Rebel at 12:13:13 on 12/01:
The problem is if the shooting side won this war, they would have said we are amazing we shot down the so called pact (Old families), and keep going on about how they showed those families an lesson and nothing would ever happen for the rest of the version, saying we cant make wars because we need to stay strong for if any pact family tries to come back.
The problem is if the shooting side won this war, they would have said we are amazing we shot down the so called pact (Old families), and keep going on about how they showed those families an lesson and nothing would ever happen for the rest of the version, saying we cant make wars because we need to stay strong for if any pact family tries to come back.
Nothing would happen? Just Look at the versions without the "old families" (kinda schmuck way of announcing yourself). I've already asked if Sbanks could implement something like that, a "wardensity meter" at the OBN Awards at the part of the version statistics. The war density of versions without the "old families" is higher.
Rebel at 12:13:13 on 12/01:
In versions where the old families don't die in the start I personally notice more wars and actions during the whole version
In versions where the old families don't die in the start I personally notice more wars and actions during the whole version
That's a a false argument. Especially big wars are much more frequent when that side dies. I've looked it up out of curiousity before as this is an argument you people always like to make.
You forget to understand that most families that worked together even yesterday do not like each other at all, same goes for why Turkuz and Pentagram had to die first before people did anything. "Let them show what they can, the fuckers will have to plan this version I'm not gonna hand them a victory blablablablabla" and thus the other families lost about 150 brugs that could have been shooting against the "old families". It's not because they are slow in planning (look at this plan, which was created within 24 hours, and if it wouldn't have leaked with luck 2 hours before the war it would have been a whole different story).
Maybe you are less active when your family dies and thus notice less of what happens in omerta in the version when the "old families" die? But the intrigues, selling etc, it's actually quite the maffia style, unlike when your side wins, then it's 1 big war at the start nowadays and then just picking off the last couple of fams since 3.3. Well woopti-fucking-doo, I wouldn't call that exciting at all.
Anonymous (15:09:03 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 14:53:14 on 12/01:
Then just don't work with them, lose 1 or 2 versions so families like Liberta and messina know it's not needed to blood so many other families again.
Action is reaction, by chosing to attack with massive force the other side will automaticly change because of that next version.
Anonymous at 14:33:39 on 12/01:
can' t *
Anonymous at 14:32:23 on 12/01:
these fams have to coop with fams the consider enemies. this doesnt have to be the problem but where there is 3or4 different leading fams. its becomes harder and harded + there is fams you simply can work with
Anonymous at 14:09:20 on 12/01:
Funny thing is, you guys see every family as a pact. If you'd organise the war properly, you'd do way more damage and you'd see the pact is actually not EVERYWHERE, just because some families are blooded to one another doesn't make them THE PACT aswell..
And that's what your problem is, you see the pact everywhere so you start a war against way too many families (and the wrong families). Next to that, the shooting was very poor once again, some top3 guys from families that were under attack were out of SH for hours not receiving a shot and some offliner gets shot twice within an hour.
`Donalo`Sixx at 13:49:50 on 12/01:
One thing you might have missed is the fact that the other 50% of the game "Anti-pact" doesn't actually like each other and isn't really connected in any way, where as the other side is engaged in one big circle jerk (presumably while they all agree how n00b turks are and how n00b everyone else is)
Correct if everyone on other side of the game wanted to get together and have meaningful cooperation then the numbers would add up.
There is no gulf in class between "pact" and the rest of fams in the game. There are crappy useless fams on both sides.
Drimacus at 11:36:57 on 12/01:
+1
incompetent
1. Unskilled, lacking normally expected degree of ability.
Anonymous at 10:58:47 on 12/01:
Really, just get the fuck out of here.
When you folks had the oppurtunity to shoot first you all fucked up bigtime with terrible first waves. Do you remember the Turkuz night?
Their is a big gulf in class in quality between pact players and the others.
Anonymous at 10:45:41 on 12/01:
dear omerta,
I have enjoyed the last few nights with all the shooting. It took a shitload of fams to try and kill this so called pact. It didnt work out because they outnumber the rest of us. Before wars even started, around 40% of all highranks was part of this " pact". Its almost impossible for normal fams to compete with this big side.
BLABLA
dear omerta,
I have enjoyed the last few nights with all the shooting. It took a shitload of fams to try and kill this so called pact. It didnt work out because they outnumber the rest of us. Before wars even started, around 40% of all highranks was part of this " pact". Its almost impossible for normal fams to compete with this big side.
BLABLA
Really, just get the fuck out of here.
When you folks had the oppurtunity to shoot first you all fucked up bigtime with terrible first waves. Do you remember the Turkuz night?
Their is a big gulf in class in quality between pact players and the others.
+1
incompetent
1. Unskilled, lacking normally expected degree of ability.
One thing you might have missed is the fact that the other 50% of the game "Anti-pact" doesn't actually like each other and isn't really connected in any way, where as the other side is engaged in one big circle jerk (presumably while they all agree how n00b turks are and how n00b everyone else is)
Correct if everyone on other side of the game wanted to get together and have meaningful cooperation then the numbers would add up.
There is no gulf in class between "pact" and the rest of fams in the game. There are crappy useless fams on both sides.
Funny thing is, you guys see every family as a pact. If you'd organise the war properly, you'd do way more damage and you'd see the pact is actually not EVERYWHERE, just because some families are blooded to one another doesn't make them THE PACT aswell..
And that's what your problem is, you see the pact everywhere so you start a war against way too many families (and the wrong families). Next to that, the shooting was very poor once again, some top3 guys from families that were under attack were out of SH for hours not receiving a shot and some offliner gets shot twice within an hour.
these fams have to coop with fams the consider enemies. this doesnt have to be the problem but where there is 3or4 different leading fams. its becomes harder and harded + there is fams you simply can work with
can' t *
Then just don't work with them, lose 1 or 2 versions so families like Liberta and messina know it's not needed to blood so many other families again.
Action is reaction, by chosing to attack with massive force the other side will automaticly change because of that next version.
this isnt serious right? Let your enemy win 2 versions on purpose? haha. And we shouldnt be shooting them, and wait till they kill us 1 by 1. xD obvious trol
Anonymous (14:53:14 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 14:33:39 on 12/01:
can' t *
Anonymous at 14:32:23 on 12/01:
these fams have to coop with fams the consider enemies. this doesnt have to be the problem but where there is 3or4 different leading fams. its becomes harder and harded + there is fams you simply can work with
Anonymous at 14:09:20 on 12/01:
Funny thing is, you guys see every family as a pact. If you'd organise the war properly, you'd do way more damage and you'd see the pact is actually not EVERYWHERE, just because some families are blooded to one another doesn't make them THE PACT aswell..
And that's what your problem is, you see the pact everywhere so you start a war against way too many families (and the wrong families). Next to that, the shooting was very poor once again, some top3 guys from families that were under attack were out of SH for hours not receiving a shot and some offliner gets shot twice within an hour.
`Donalo`Sixx at 13:49:50 on 12/01:
One thing you might have missed is the fact that the other 50% of the game "Anti-pact" doesn't actually like each other and isn't really connected in any way, where as the other side is engaged in one big circle jerk (presumably while they all agree how n00b turks are and how n00b everyone else is)
Correct if everyone on other side of the game wanted to get together and have meaningful cooperation then the numbers would add up.
There is no gulf in class between "pact" and the rest of fams in the game. There are crappy useless fams on both sides.
Drimacus at 11:36:57 on 12/01:
+1
incompetent
1. Unskilled, lacking normally expected degree of ability.
Anonymous at 10:58:47 on 12/01:
Really, just get the fuck out of here.
When you folks had the oppurtunity to shoot first you all fucked up bigtime with terrible first waves. Do you remember the Turkuz night?
Their is a big gulf in class in quality between pact players and the others.
Anonymous at 10:45:41 on 12/01:
dear omerta,
I have enjoyed the last few nights with all the shooting. It took a shitload of fams to try and kill this so called pact. It didnt work out because they outnumber the rest of us. Before wars even started, around 40% of all highranks was part of this " pact". Its almost impossible for normal fams to compete with this big side.
BLABLA
dear omerta,
I have enjoyed the last few nights with all the shooting. It took a shitload of fams to try and kill this so called pact. It didnt work out because they outnumber the rest of us. Before wars even started, around 40% of all highranks was part of this " pact". Its almost impossible for normal fams to compete with this big side.
BLABLA
Really, just get the fuck out of here.
When you folks had the oppurtunity to shoot first you all fucked up bigtime with terrible first waves. Do you remember the Turkuz night?
Their is a big gulf in class in quality between pact players and the others.
+1
incompetent
1. Unskilled, lacking normally expected degree of ability.
One thing you might have missed is the fact that the other 50% of the game "Anti-pact" doesn't actually like each other and isn't really connected in any way, where as the other side is engaged in one big circle jerk (presumably while they all agree how n00b turks are and how n00b everyone else is)
Correct if everyone on other side of the game wanted to get together and have meaningful cooperation then the numbers would add up.
There is no gulf in class between "pact" and the rest of fams in the game. There are crappy useless fams on both sides.
Funny thing is, you guys see every family as a pact. If you'd organise the war properly, you'd do way more damage and you'd see the pact is actually not EVERYWHERE, just because some families are blooded to one another doesn't make them THE PACT aswell..
And that's what your problem is, you see the pact everywhere so you start a war against way too many families (and the wrong families). Next to that, the shooting was very poor once again, some top3 guys from families that were under attack were out of SH for hours not receiving a shot and some offliner gets shot twice within an hour.
these fams have to coop with fams the consider enemies. this doesnt have to be the problem but where there is 3or4 different leading fams. its becomes harder and harded + there is fams you simply can work with
can' t *
Then just don't work with them, lose 1 or 2 versions so families like Liberta and messina know it's not needed to blood so many other families again.
Action is reaction, by chosing to attack with massive force the other side will automaticly change because of that next version.
The problem is mass duping from players paying for DCs, so no akills from admins. Then the tops of the family's control a number of accounts created from a cheat. So for players to blame "pacts" is wrong! Look in the fucking mirror people. Back to retirement now, enjoy your cheated game lady's :w
I even will post on my own anon comment that I made made myself(the last post) since no body will respond(cowardness). Admins don't care about the game, they only care about the money income% + or -. Akills they hate, since it is taking out "money revenue". So please get uh hmm. "REAL". So to be realistic about the situation, blame yourselfs. Not the admins! You got played, by a player :)
PS: <3 Carolyn :^