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11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!
Author: Smul
Last updated: 4114d 21h 55m 16s ago by Smul
Comments: 234
Views: 57,093
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Version: 3.52
Involved families: Amicitia, Anonymous, Ataraxia, Blutrache, Deprem, Destination, Fidelitas, Gigolos, Hattrickelli, Ilimitada, Krays, Leviticus, Moria, Provenzano, Psychonymous, Purgatory, Samagono, Samyo, Snatch, Audacia, Catania, Connection, Cristeria, Darkness, Executions, Gravano, Homeless, Inizio, Leone, Lucchese, Marazzino, Memento, Messina, Prospero, Righelli, Silentium, Sith, Tattaglia, Vedici
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Memento and Gravano are getting shot by the Provenzano and Fidelitas alliance.

Only 1 update from the statistics page later and chaos ensues. Lucchese, Gigolos, Ataraxia, Leviticus, Provenzano and Vedici gangsters are dropping on the floor breathing their last breathes.

Tattaglia+ is shooting Leviticus. They brought Leviticus down in 1 swift wave.

Messina+ seems to be countering on Fidelitas.

ISPP is countering on Provenzano.

Messina+ is getting shot by a group of families; Krays, Samagono, Destination and famless Leviticus members.

Lucchese is getting hit by a collective of families, the Psychonymous alliance, the Purgatory alliance, Snatch and Samyo are the assailants.

Cristeria is aiming at Destination and Hattrickelli.

Connection leaps into the war, shooting at Provenzano.

Catania is going after the Psychonymous alliance.

And the constant flow of families jumping in doesn't seem to stop as Righelli jumps in, shooting at the Psychonymous alliance. After that they proceded by shooting at Samyo. After their waves against Samyo decimated Samyo significantly they also took Snatch as their targets.

Leone is shooting at the Psychonymous alliance.

Marazzino jumped in for their bloods, they are shooting at Samyo.

Tattaglia started shooting at Fidelitas.

Ilimitada started shooting at Tattaglia and is currently being shot at themselves.
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Fidelitas Statement:
There's talk of an "anti-pact". We definitely haven't been part of a thing like that. Our joining this war was necessisated by the following:

In order to trick fams into shooting us, Memento and a few more were daily wagging their tongue. Knowing they wanted us dead we acted first. That's all.

A thanks goes out to all our loyal members who don't hesitate a second to walk towards their destiny. A further thanks to our bloods, especially Ilimitada who has shared our fate while doing justice to the term 'blood'.

Peace out!
statistics
War started on: 19:30:01 11-01-2013 War ended on: 21:04:00 12-01-2013
Bullet difference: -73,297,748 War duration: 1d 1h 33m
Money difference: -$5,792,227,388 Players died: 590




deaths
Dead Families:
[Krays] Family down on 21:01 12-01
[Snatch] Family down on 16:07 12-01
[Purgatory] Family down on 13:25 12-01
[Gigolos] Family down on 10:50 12-01
[Ataraxia] Family down on 09:41 12-01
[Samagono] Family down on 09:36 12-01
[Provenzano] Family down on 09:19 12-01
[Moria] Family down on 07:57 12-01
[Fidelitas] Family down on 06:32 12-01
[Blutrache] Family down on 05:57 12-01
[Ilimitada] Family down on 05:00 12-01
[Deprem] Family down on 03:14 12-01
[Amicitia] Family down on 02:45 12-01
[Anonymous] Family down on 01:32 12-01
[Hattrickelli] Family down on 00:43 12-01
[Destination] Family down on 00:22 12-01
[Samyo] Family down on 22:36 11-01
[Psychonymous] Family down on 21:20 11-01
[Leviticus] Family down on 19:41 11-01
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
| swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 18 | chief: 16 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 305
Amicitia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 65
Anonymous | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 57
Ataraxia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 7 | brug: 17 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 313
Audacia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Blutrache | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 138
Catania | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 3 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 24
Connection | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 16
Cristeria | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 54
Deprem | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 91
Destination | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 91
Executions | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Fidelitas | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 10 | brug: 22 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 366
Gigolos | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 5 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 163
Gravano | swin: 0 | assa: 3 | lc: 2 | chief: 10 | brug: 14 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 281
Hattrickelli | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 2 | chief: 0 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 91
Homeless | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 21
Ilimitada | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 1 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 148
Inizio | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 3
Krays | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 6 | chief: 7 | brug: 14 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 268
Leone | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 42
Leviticus | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 3 | brug: 14 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 206
Lucchese | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 18 | brug: 33 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 580
Marazzino | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 21
Memento | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 6 | brug: 24 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 360
Messina | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 4 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 169
Moria | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 5 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 66
Provenzano | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 8 | brug: 17 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 290
Psychonymous | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 3 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 170
Purgatory | swin: 0 | assa: 4 | lc: 2 | chief: 2 | brug: 13 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 207
Righelli | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 31
Samagono | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 15 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 195
Samyo | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 2 | chief: 6 | brug: 14 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 243
Sith | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Snatch | swin: 0 | assa: 2 | lc: 2 | chief: 9 | brug: 21 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 361
Tattaglia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 9 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 117
Vedici | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 47
Total | swin: 5 | assa: 15 | lc: 48 | chief: 137 | brug: 324 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 5,665
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Anonymous (00:17:04 - 13-01)
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FlowzZ at 23:57:40 on 12/01:
Without even bothering to read all these pact anti pact outnumber blabla long comments since its the same shit every version and same blames and ignorant ,hypocrites, angry people seeing only red (i would recommend reading Johnny's big speeches in OB news since by far he is most realistic retired game observer in omerta) , let me point out some stuff:

1. You had the brugs and the KA at your disposal this version and several other versions and still couldn't fully use them (hence them being empty or no connection btw them and tops) while there were accounts owning most of the family money , i'd blame your top management in here perhaps its time you do something about it .

2. You had the same type of enemies for versions even before 3.3 where we fought Conflict+ and same kind of parasites waited for both our sides to get weakened and clean as third party and i have the right to make this statement since im from Gravano and there was no version where we wouldnt have to psychologically prepare our tops and our people that this version wont be easy and you will have to fight countless waves day after day and chances to lose would be high.

3. You do backstabs , leaks , personal vendettas and you still wonder why some other fams dont want to work with you or shoot with you or even defend you if it suited their strategical plan well.

4. You have lost the concept of what sis fams or bloods are and what relations between them should be , and you promise change every version and still end up doing the same thing.

5. You lack skills on organizing wars (related to #3) or do fast counters , target picking is included .

Now without going any further , let me ask you something , you still want to claim the right to win a version or blame others for their gameplay?

You will win this version and deservedly because of two things. 1. Size and 2. Organization. But let's go thru your points.

1. Mere size. You can't tell me in all seriousness that your bloodlist has grown out of proportion. That's one criticism you have to face. When you finish a version with 15+ fams, then something is wrong. If those 15 fams contain as good as any Top 10 fam, then you can't (well probably you can) deny, that it's too much power gathered on one side. You assumption, "the other side" had more brugs would only be legit, IF all the fams you took out, would be working together. Pentagram+ was your bloods (or so they thought). So I am not really sure, where you get the strange idea, the others had more brugs? It's a bit beyond me, maybe you can show me the maths, that lead you to this bold conclusion.

2. Yes, I have heard this creation myth before, yet point 1 remains. You have become too big to fail. Yet, the last freeride (Pentagram) was helped/guided by you. Right?

3. Yes, that's kinda legit, but the problem is, that you have gathered most good/reliable fams. So you have numbers and organization. Sorry, but I am not sure how you consider any given version a challenge under those circumstances.

4. Oh, really? 10 bloods+ I mean, wasn't 5 a standard number. And you say, everybody else has lost the concept?

5. Yes, relates to 1) and 3). You have sucked up most of the reliable fams. Try to reverse the roles, good luck trying to organize something with families like Nazdrovia (you shoot first), Kurosawa (dumbest family to ever play this game), and lots of Turkish fams like Turkuz...

Now, really, tell me where'S the challenge?
Amproof United States (00:12:40 - 13-01)
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FlowzZ at 23:57:40 on 12/01:
Without even bothering to read all these pact anti pact outnumber blabla long comments since its the same shit every version and same blames and ignorant ,hypocrites, angry people seeing only red (i would recommend reading Johnny's big speeches in OB news since by far he is most realistic retired game observer in omerta) , let me point out some stuff:

1. You had the brugs and the KA at your disposal this version and several other versions and still couldn't fully use them (hence them being empty or no connection btw them and tops) while there were accounts owning most of the family money , i'd blame your top management in here perhaps its time you do something about it .

2. You had the same type of enemies for versions even before 3.3 where we fought Conflict+ and same kind of parasites waited for both our sides to get weakened and clean as third party and i have the right to make this statement since im from Gravano and there was no version where we wouldnt have to psychologically prepare our tops and our people that this version wont be easy and you will have to fight countless waves day after day and chances to lose would be high.

3. You do backstabs , leaks , personal vendettas and you still wonder why some other fams dont want to work with you or shoot with you or even defend you if it suited their strategical plan well.

4. You have lost the concept of what sis fams or bloods are and what relations between them should be , and you promise change every version and still end up doing the same thing.

5. You lack skills on organizing wars (related to #3) or do fast counters , target picking is included .

Now without going any further , let me ask you something , you still want to claim the right to win a version or blame others for their gameplay?
Very true!

I agree with most all you said Flowz. Not like it'll change anything though! Its like trying to convince people that some things whilst cool are bad for you.

It just gets worse and worse.
ElIndio Germany (00:06:09 - 13-01)
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Fidelitas Statement:

There's talk of an "anti-pact". We definitely haven't been part of a thing like that. Our joining this war was necessisated by the following:

In order to trick fams into shooting us, Memento and a few more were daily wagging their tongue. Knowing they wanted us dead we acted first. That's all.

A thanks goes out to all our loyal members who don't hesitate a second to walk towards their destiny. A further thanks to our bloods, especially Ilimitada who has shared our fate while doing justice to the term 'blood'.

Peace out!
FlowzZ Albania (23:57:40 - 12-01)
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Without even bothering to read all these pact anti pact outnumber blabla long comments since its the same shit every version and same blames and ignorant ,hypocrites, angry people seeing only red (i would recommend reading Johnny's big speeches in OB news since by far he is most realistic retired game observer in omerta) , let me point out some stuff:

1. You had the brugs and the KA at your disposal this version and several other versions and still couldn't fully use them (hence them being empty or no connection btw them and tops) while there were accounts owning most of the family money , i'd blame your top management in here perhaps its time you do something about it .

2. You had the same type of enemies for versions even before 3.3 where we fought Conflict+ and same kind of parasites waited for both our sides to get weakened and clean as third party and i have the right to make this statement since im from Gravano and there was no version where we wouldnt have to psychologically prepare our tops and our people that this version wont be easy and you will have to fight countless waves day after day and chances to lose would be high.

3. You do backstabs , leaks , personal vendettas and you still wonder why some other fams dont want to work with you or shoot with you or even defend you if it suited their strategical plan well.

4. You have lost the concept of what sis fams or bloods are and what relations between them should be , and you promise change every version and still end up doing the same thing.

5. You lack skills on organizing wars (related to #3) or do fast counters , target picking is included .

Now without going any further , let me ask you something , you still want to claim the right to win a version or blame others for their gameplay?
Anonymous (23:45:05 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 23:36:08 on 12/01:
karmi at 23:17:29 on 12/01:
Anonymous at 21:58:51 on 12/01:
Anonymous at 21:07:30 on 12/01:
karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


Totally ignoring the fact, that you actually helped to make last version so shitty. I mean without the help Pentagram received from Messina/Gravano/Liberta Pentagram would have never ever survived to blood all those other turks.

Anyway, really explain me why you need this huge amount of big families.
And again, it'S funny to see that you restrict your comparision to mere number of families and do not include their actual size (number of highranks). But that's part of the self-denial.

We are the good ones here, we needed to grow bigger because of this imaginary Turkish threat.
Like I said, Turkuz+ and then Pentagram+ died alone. And I really do not know anybody who was willing/would have been willing to help pentagram. But I guess, that simply does not work with your perspective.

THERE WAS NO BIG TURKISH AS ONE ANTI-PACT. If there was, Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ Would not have died alone.

But I guess it feels better if you can tell yourself, that there was this big pact hunting your (not so) little pact, thus it had to grow further. Your fam is afterall the one with more than 10 bloods. Again have fun finishing the version with 15 or 20 fams. Let's see how many more fams you will add next version.


There was no anti-pact and there is no pact.

You blame Karmi for hunting an imaginary pact, let me tell you this: Last version the so called 'anti-pact' or 'turk-pact' gangbanged the Deadrabbit family 120 brugliones vs 3 brugliones of Deadrabbit.

Top statement Turkuz: BoHeM (Top Turkuz): 'Pact' must not come back for this version. enough story


I believe you're the most hypocrit person walking this planet if you kill 3 brug family dead rabbits with 10 families for being a part of the pact and after that telling other people they are hunting imaginary pacts.


thank you sir!

just like i said, it is very easy to relate what happened at previous versions with this version, and understand the difference between the so called anti-pact and the so called pact..

if people keep denying this, they may find more top statements like BoHeM's or shootings of the poor anti-pact guys..

what happened to deadrabbits was a great example of this..

Again that self-denial mode.
<We had to grow bigger because of the Turkish asone threat>
Two things:

You guys made last versions Turkish as ones possible. Messina/Gravano/Monte helped their bloods Pentagram with planning and organizing wars after they themselves were down. I am not sure how often I have to repeat that. That they started to add one Turkish fam after another to survive last version, well that was something your masterminds did not foresee.


Anyway, not my point. Those as-one faggotry from last version as reason for expanding your bloodlist to protect yourself from the Turkish anti-pact? Sorry, to disturb your delusions of being the good guys, and you are just circumstancial victims of your hillarious bloodings, but let's get back to bare facts:

If such a big turkish anti-pact existed, can you please explain to all of us, WHY the Turkuz and Pentagram alliances died alone, without any help/backup.

I mean not even somebody from Lucchese can be that thick to totally blackout that fact. So please Karmi, explain it to me, please. I am like super curious of how you explain it.

That can have a lot of reasons, maybe bloods of Pentagram didn't have time to respond, that war ended very quick. Maybe the bloods of Pentagram didn't have any organisation or members online at the time of shooting. We have seen 20 families attack the next day, we have often seen families take revenge the day after.

The Turkuz / Blacksea shooting, we all know that war was supposed to be bigger but other families backed out of that war before it started. Turkuz attacked because warplans leaked and people had detecs on them aswell.
Anonymous (23:36:08 - 12-01)
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karmi at 23:17:29 on 12/01:
Anonymous at 21:58:51 on 12/01:
Anonymous at 21:07:30 on 12/01:
karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


Totally ignoring the fact, that you actually helped to make last version so shitty. I mean without the help Pentagram received from Messina/Gravano/Liberta Pentagram would have never ever survived to blood all those other turks.

Anyway, really explain me why you need this huge amount of big families.
And again, it'S funny to see that you restrict your comparision to mere number of families and do not include their actual size (number of highranks). But that's part of the self-denial.

We are the good ones here, we needed to grow bigger because of this imaginary Turkish threat.
Like I said, Turkuz+ and then Pentagram+ died alone. And I really do not know anybody who was willing/would have been willing to help pentagram. But I guess, that simply does not work with your perspective.

THERE WAS NO BIG TURKISH AS ONE ANTI-PACT. If there was, Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ Would not have died alone.

But I guess it feels better if you can tell yourself, that there was this big pact hunting your (not so) little pact, thus it had to grow further. Your fam is afterall the one with more than 10 bloods. Again have fun finishing the version with 15 or 20 fams. Let's see how many more fams you will add next version.


There was no anti-pact and there is no pact.

You blame Karmi for hunting an imaginary pact, let me tell you this: Last version the so called 'anti-pact' or 'turk-pact' gangbanged the Deadrabbit family 120 brugliones vs 3 brugliones of Deadrabbit.

Top statement Turkuz: BoHeM (Top Turkuz): 'Pact' must not come back for this version. enough story


I believe you're the most hypocrit person walking this planet if you kill 3 brug family dead rabbits with 10 families for being a part of the pact and after that telling other people they are hunting imaginary pacts.


thank you sir!

just like i said, it is very easy to relate what happened at previous versions with this version, and understand the difference between the so called anti-pact and the so called pact..

if people keep denying this, they may find more top statements like BoHeM's or shootings of the poor anti-pact guys..

what happened to deadrabbits was a great example of this..

Again that self-denial mode.
<We had to grow bigger because of the Turkish asone threat>
Two things:

You guys made last versions Turkish as ones possible. Messina/Gravano/Monte helped their bloods Pentagram with planning and organizing wars after they themselves were down. I am not sure how often I have to repeat that. That they started to add one Turkish fam after another to survive last version, well that was something your masterminds did not foresee.


Anyway, not my point. Those as-one faggotry from last version as reason for expanding your bloodlist to protect yourself from the Turkish anti-pact? Sorry, to disturb your delusions of being the good guys, and you are just circumstancial victims of your hillarious bloodings, but let's get back to bare facts:

If such a big turkish anti-pact existed, can you please explain to all of us, WHY the Turkuz and Pentagram alliances died alone, without any help/backup.

I mean not even somebody from Lucchese can be that thick to totally blackout that fact. So please Karmi, explain it to me, please. I am like super curious of how you explain it.
karmi Turkey (23:17:29 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 21:58:51 on 12/01:
Anonymous at 21:07:30 on 12/01:
karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


Totally ignoring the fact, that you actually helped to make last version so shitty. I mean without the help Pentagram received from Messina/Gravano/Liberta Pentagram would have never ever survived to blood all those other turks.

Anyway, really explain me why you need this huge amount of big families.
And again, it'S funny to see that you restrict your comparision to mere number of families and do not include their actual size (number of highranks). But that's part of the self-denial.

We are the good ones here, we needed to grow bigger because of this imaginary Turkish threat.
Like I said, Turkuz+ and then Pentagram+ died alone. And I really do not know anybody who was willing/would have been willing to help pentagram. But I guess, that simply does not work with your perspective.

THERE WAS NO BIG TURKISH AS ONE ANTI-PACT. If there was, Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ Would not have died alone.

But I guess it feels better if you can tell yourself, that there was this big pact hunting your (not so) little pact, thus it had to grow further. Your fam is afterall the one with more than 10 bloods. Again have fun finishing the version with 15 or 20 fams. Let's see how many more fams you will add next version.


There was no anti-pact and there is no pact.

You blame Karmi for hunting an imaginary pact, let me tell you this: Last version the so called 'anti-pact' or 'turk-pact' gangbanged the Deadrabbit family 120 brugliones vs 3 brugliones of Deadrabbit.

Top statement Turkuz: BoHeM (Top Turkuz): 'Pact' must not come back for this version. enough story


I believe you're the most hypocrit person walking this planet if you kill 3 brug family dead rabbits with 10 families for being a part of the pact and after that telling other people they are hunting imaginary pacts.


thank you sir!

just like i said, it is very easy to relate what happened at previous versions with this version, and understand the difference between the so called anti-pact and the so called pact..

if people keep denying this, they may find more top statements like BoHeM's or shootings of the poor anti-pact guys..

what happened to deadrabbits was a great example of this..
karmi Turkey (23:09:19 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 22:21:36 on 12/01:
karmi at 21:32:15 on 12/01:

Another thing, i doubt the fams like levi desti krays want to work with fams that died last night or even turkuz and penta...the fams that died last night arent all working together like the pact....

Leviticus was blooded with Turkuz Pentagram (ex-Violenza) Yigidos/Blacksea for quite some versions.

to avoid misunderstandings about my point of view, this was not my post above, it was an answer to one of my posts.. but while deleted the
of the other person, it looked like i wrote it..
Anonymous (22:49:51 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 22:08:09 on 12/01:
Anonymous at 21:58:51 on 12/01:
Anonymous at 21:07:30 on 12/01:
karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


Totally ignoring the fact, that you actually helped to make last version so shitty. I mean without the help Pentagram received from Messina/Gravano/Liberta Pentagram would have never ever survived to blood all those other turks.

Anyway, really explain me why you need this huge amount of big families.
And again, it'S funny to see that you restrict your comparision to mere number of families and do not include their actual size (number of highranks). But that's part of the self-denial.

We are the good ones here, we needed to grow bigger because of this imaginary Turkish threat.
Like I said, Turkuz+ and then Pentagram+ died alone. And I really do not know anybody who was willing/would have been willing to help pentagram. But I guess, that simply does not work with your perspective.

THERE WAS NO BIG TURKISH AS ONE ANTI-PACT. If there was, Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ Would not have died alone.

But I guess it feels better if you can tell yourself, that there was this big pact hunting your (not so) little pact, thus it had to grow further. Your fam is afterall the one with more than 10 bloods. Again have fun finishing the version with 15 or 20 fams. Let's see how many more fams you will add next version.


There was no anti-pact and there is no pact.

You blame Karmi for hunting an imaginary pact, let me tell you this: Last version the so called 'anti-pact' or 'turk-pact' gangbanged the Deadrabbit family 120 brugliones vs 3 brugliones of Deadrabbit.

Top statement Turkuz: BoHeM (Top Turkuz): 'Pact' must not come back for this version. enough story


I believe you're the most hypocrit person walking this planet if you kill 3 brug family dead rabbits with 10 families for being a part of the pact and after that telling other people they are hunting imaginary pacts.



You are the most moronic person posting on this site then.

Why would I be part of a fam like Turkuz?
I don't speak Turkish kanka. And all I know, that is like the only language they seem to speak. Except for Bohem maybe. ANd if you read carefully, I said, that I agree that this turkish as one faggotry from last version was a disgrace. But again, if this so called big turkish anti-pact existed. Why did the Turkuz alliance shoot alone?
Make a whole lot of sense... NOT.

Brings me back to my initial statement. You are indeed the most moronic person posting on this site. Congratulations, sir. You nailed it.


You're taking the discussion to the insulting stage, very mature and very intelligent of you to do so. I did read your post very carefully and I thought carefully about picking my words. I'll enlighten myself for you:

You blamed Karmi he (or his fam) is hunting an imaginary anti-pact, of which you say doesn't excist. Now the only thing I have stated was that the 'anti-pact' is doing the paranoid hunting on pact families themselfs.

I just showed they take it to another level by even gangbanging midget families because they would be the pact. I never stated you were Turkuz and I never stated you were part of the anti-pact.

I never even called you hypocrite, I said: I believe you're the most hypocrit person walking this planet if you kill 3 brug family... etc etc. Now if you aren't Turkuz, you didn't kill that 3 brug family and I didn't call you a hypocrite.

I called those who do paranoid pact hunting (like Turkuz and BoHeM) and blame the pact for doing ghost-hunting hypocrite.

Now if I have offended you by my previous post, that was never my intention and if you are offended that is your own choise.
Anonymous (22:21:36 - 12-01)
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karmi at 21:32:15 on 12/01:

Another thing, i doubt the fams like levi desti krays want to work with fams that died last night or even turkuz and penta...the fams that died last night arent all working together like the pact....

Leviticus was blooded with Turkuz Pentagram (ex-Violenza) Yigidos/Blacksea for quite some versions.
Anonymous (22:08:09 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 21:58:51 on 12/01:
Anonymous at 21:07:30 on 12/01:
karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


Totally ignoring the fact, that you actually helped to make last version so shitty. I mean without the help Pentagram received from Messina/Gravano/Liberta Pentagram would have never ever survived to blood all those other turks.

Anyway, really explain me why you need this huge amount of big families.
And again, it'S funny to see that you restrict your comparision to mere number of families and do not include their actual size (number of highranks). But that's part of the self-denial.

We are the good ones here, we needed to grow bigger because of this imaginary Turkish threat.
Like I said, Turkuz+ and then Pentagram+ died alone. And I really do not know anybody who was willing/would have been willing to help pentagram. But I guess, that simply does not work with your perspective.

THERE WAS NO BIG TURKISH AS ONE ANTI-PACT. If there was, Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ Would not have died alone.

But I guess it feels better if you can tell yourself, that there was this big pact hunting your (not so) little pact, thus it had to grow further. Your fam is afterall the one with more than 10 bloods. Again have fun finishing the version with 15 or 20 fams. Let's see how many more fams you will add next version.


There was no anti-pact and there is no pact.

You blame Karmi for hunting an imaginary pact, let me tell you this: Last version the so called 'anti-pact' or 'turk-pact' gangbanged the Deadrabbit family 120 brugliones vs 3 brugliones of Deadrabbit.

Top statement Turkuz: BoHeM (Top Turkuz): 'Pact' must not come back for this version. enough story


I believe you're the most hypocrit person walking this planet if you kill 3 brug family dead rabbits with 10 families for being a part of the pact and after that telling other people they are hunting imaginary pacts.



You are the most moronic person posting on this site then.

Why would I be part of a fam like Turkuz?
I don't speak Turkish kanka. And all I know, that is like the only language they seem to speak. Except for Bohem maybe. ANd if you read carefully, I said, that I agree that this turkish as one faggotry from last version was a disgrace. But again, if this so called big turkish anti-pact existed. Why did the Turkuz alliance shoot alone?
Make a whole lot of sense... NOT.

Brings me back to my initial statement. You are indeed the most moronic person posting on this site. Congratulations, sir. You nailed it.
manhell (22:07:25 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 22:01:38 on 12/01:
@ Smul,

You keep talking about the leak happend just 2h before the war actually started and how well it was planned and stuff,
But lemme make few things clear, as for Gravano we knew about the war long before the 2h u keep mentioning.
So First of all the plan didnt leak just 2h before the war started, it was leaked way long before.
Second, as soon as we heard prov++ desti etc planing war, we imidetly got our bloods ready and planned to strike before u guys do, this was like 6-7h before the war started. Untill we reached our bloods, fixed a plan devided targets and all, at that time prov alliance was about to shoot, we already had detcs set and went to sh just before u guys actually started. Then as soon as we came out we started to shoot our targets, while our bloods already started shooting.

That was me xd
Anonymous (22:01:38 - 12-01)
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@ Smul,

You keep talking about the leak happend just 2h before the war actually started and how well it was planned and stuff,
But lemme make few things clear, as for Gravano we knew about the war long before the 2h u keep mentioning.
So First of all the plan didnt leak just 2h before the war started, it was leaked way long before.
Second, as soon as we heard prov++ desti etc planing war, we imidetly got our bloods ready and planned to strike before u guys do, this was like 6-7h before the war started. Untill we reached our bloods, fixed a plan devided targets and all, at that time prov alliance was about to shoot, we already had detcs set and went to sh just before u guys actually started. Then as soon as we came out we started to shoot our targets, while our bloods already started shooting.
Anonymous (21:58:51 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 21:07:30 on 12/01:
karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


Totally ignoring the fact, that you actually helped to make last version so shitty. I mean without the help Pentagram received from Messina/Gravano/Liberta Pentagram would have never ever survived to blood all those other turks.

Anyway, really explain me why you need this huge amount of big families.
And again, it'S funny to see that you restrict your comparision to mere number of families and do not include their actual size (number of highranks). But that's part of the self-denial.

We are the good ones here, we needed to grow bigger because of this imaginary Turkish threat.
Like I said, Turkuz+ and then Pentagram+ died alone. And I really do not know anybody who was willing/would have been willing to help pentagram. But I guess, that simply does not work with your perspective.

THERE WAS NO BIG TURKISH AS ONE ANTI-PACT. If there was, Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ Would not have died alone.

But I guess it feels better if you can tell yourself, that there was this big pact hunting your (not so) little pact, thus it had to grow further. Your fam is afterall the one with more than 10 bloods. Again have fun finishing the version with 15 or 20 fams. Let's see how many more fams you will add next version.


There was no anti-pact and there is no pact.

You blame Karmi for hunting an imaginary pact, let me tell you this: Last version the so called 'anti-pact' or 'turk-pact' gangbanged the Deadrabbit family 120 brugliones vs 3 brugliones of Deadrabbit.

Top statement Turkuz: BoHeM (Top Turkuz): 'Pact' must not come back for this version. enough story


I believe you're the most hypocrit person walking this planet if you kill 3 brug family dead rabbits with 10 families for being a part of the pact and after that telling other people they are hunting imaginary pacts.

karmi Turkey (21:32:15 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 21:20:20 on 12/01:
karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


This only shows how uninformed you are...you are prolly a member of a pact fam so thats why you are defending the pact fams. Let me ask you this.. How much bloods has messina... If you add penta+ they were blooded to over 13-14 fams ingame... Another thing, i doubt the fams like levi desti krays want to work with fams that died last night or even turkuz and penta...the fams that died last night arent all working together like the pact....they just have to cos the pact consists of over 20 fams (which are all blooded to eachother) and they need the other "neutral" fams to atleast make a difference and try to open the version.. and another thing i dont thing that fams like sama krays desti levi are making nonshooting deals just cos of nationality...you cant even consider those fams the so called "turk fams"...so your post is complete bs...

you havent even read my post and thus you are commenting on it..

read the last sentence of my post first, and than i will continue reading urs..
karmi Turkey (21:28:03 - 12-01)
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Anonymous at 21:07:30 on 12/01:
karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


Totally ignoring the fact, that you actually helped to make last version so shitty. I mean without the help Pentagram received from Messina/Gravano/Liberta Pentagram would have never ever survived to blood all those other turks.

Anyway, really explain me why you need this huge amount of big families.
And again, it'S funny to see that you restrict your comparision to mere number of families and do not include their actual size (number of highranks). But that's part of the self-denial.

We are the good ones here, we needed to grow bigger because of this imaginary Turkish threat.
Like I said, Turkuz+ and then Pentagram+ died alone. And I really do not know anybody who was willing/would have been willing to help pentagram. But I guess, that simply does not work with your perspective.

THERE WAS NO BIG TURKISH AS ONE ANTI-PACT. If there was, Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ Would not have died alone.

But I guess it feels better if you can tell yourself, that there was this big pact hunting your (not so) little pact, thus it had to grow further. Your fam is afterall the one with more than 10 bloods. Again have fun finishing the version with 15 or 20 fams. Let's see how many more fams you will add next version.

i am really wondering now which family you are talking about because last version, we were not playing at all.. :)

and you just said my family have more than 10 bloods.. this is also wrong since we only have 6 bloods, which might seem so little next to your perspective of "blooding"..

sorry but i do not think i am in a self denial phase, but you are, by saying that all of these families are not related with your poor anti-pact.. oh really? are you actually that blind not to see the relation of these fams? (bla bla + and bla bla +)

and the funny fact is, there were 3 wars in 3 days, and you are too blind to see that they were all related to each other.. if you dont have enough intelligence to understand the reason behind these 3 wars, i think i will stop arguing with you..

keep counting the numbers of highranks regarding the last war.. what about the beginning? what was the highrank ratio of your poor anti-pact and our mighty pact?

and i don't think it is my problem that these 6 fams have more high-ranks than your poor anti-pact, since 4-5 of these fams are always blooded almost each version, and always having great amount of high-ranks and experienced players..

you sound like these families are never blooding each other, but only blooding the first 10 fams at the start of the version.. this is surely the anti-pact style imo..

if they have more highranks than your anti-pact, that is something you need to solve, maybe trying to raise the quality of ur own family, equivalent to these families...

i wish you good luck trying to accept the fact that you are hell of a mighty pact urself..
Anonymous (21:20:20 - 12-01)
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karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


This only shows how uninformed you are...you are prolly a member of a pact fam so thats why you are defending the pact fams. Let me ask you this.. How much bloods has messina... If you add penta+ they were blooded to over 13-14 fams ingame... Another thing, i doubt the fams like levi desti krays want to work with fams that died last night or even turkuz and penta...the fams that died last night arent all working together like the pact....they just have to cos the pact consists of over 20 fams (which are all blooded to eachother) and they need the other "neutral" fams to atleast make a difference and try to open the version.. and another thing i dont thing that fams like sama krays desti levi are making nonshooting deals just cos of nationality...you cant even consider those fams the so called "turk fams"...so your post is complete bs...
Anonymous (21:07:30 - 12-01)
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karmi at 20:55:07 on 12/01:
i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..


Totally ignoring the fact, that you actually helped to make last version so shitty. I mean without the help Pentagram received from Messina/Gravano/Liberta Pentagram would have never ever survived to blood all those other turks.

Anyway, really explain me why you need this huge amount of big families.
And again, it'S funny to see that you restrict your comparision to mere number of families and do not include their actual size (number of highranks). But that's part of the self-denial.

We are the good ones here, we needed to grow bigger because of this imaginary Turkish threat.
Like I said, Turkuz+ and then Pentagram+ died alone. And I really do not know anybody who was willing/would have been willing to help pentagram. But I guess, that simply does not work with your perspective.

THERE WAS NO BIG TURKISH AS ONE ANTI-PACT. If there was, Turkuz+ and Pentagram+ Would not have died alone.

But I guess it feels better if you can tell yourself, that there was this big pact hunting your (not so) little pact, thus it had to grow further. Your fam is afterall the one with more than 10 bloods. Again have fun finishing the version with 15 or 20 fams. Let's see how many more fams you will add next version.
karmi Turkey (20:55:07 - 12-01)
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i see some kind of interesting new terminology lately, actually aiming to show a group of fams more than what they are, and to show the shooter fams look smaller, helpless and weak, which is The Anti-Pact..

i am kind of confused with this anti-pact.. since this anti-pact is consist of more than 20 fams and the so-called "pact" ALSO consists the same amount.. should we be sad and sorry for the "anti-pact" ?

or is it happy to see what happened to them?

because as far as i know, the anti-pact group that you try to say who were desperate because of the "pact" and needed to open the version, are the fams who are actually blooding more than 15 families, doing non-shooting agreements due to nationality of the families and trying not involve in any wars AT ALL..

but when i look at the MIGHTY pact at your point of view, i see some trigger happy fams who actually does NOT blood with huge amount of families, and who are actually playing the game by the rules..

so which one is The Pact and which one is the Anti-Pact?

if you check what happened last versions, and relate the events to this version and compare them, i guess the answer for understanding the pact, and the anti-pact will be easy..

i cant say im sorry for this anti-pact..

because i think the families who act as A REAL PACT are amongst this so called "anti-pack" (i am not including families such as Krays, Samagono and one or two more families in this anti-pact conclusion.. actually i respect their style of playing)..

Anonymous (20:37:20 - 12-01)
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fuck marazzino noobs and fuck your mother cnwr ;)