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Due "whatever" reason.. some people call it a bug, some people call it something with the database, some people its a mysterious link again..
But this afternoon we saw with in the hour a money loss of over 800 Million and it kept dropping.
Object owners seemed to mysteriously lost large amounts of money, sometimes up to $200mil per person, without any traces. Admins could not find where the money went to either; it was just suddenly lower than before.
After the object owners went to complain in #help the objects got closed down.
A total of over 1 billion dollar got lost due this.
We have no clue when the objects will be open again.
UPDATE:
Objects have been opened again. It seems the casino owners who lost money wont receive compensation, even tho this was not a bug, and also no one gained anything from it.
Update 4th July:
The troubles are far from over, it seems. After first the object owners loosing money, now it's up to some regular players which are having the same problem. Admins do not seem to have a good explanation about what is going on, but they did say "someone is on our db", meaning someone has hacked himself into the database where all the player data is stored of Omerta, and changed money of certain players there manually, resulting in money loss without any actual transfers. As we speak, the game itself is having large troubles as well. Nobody can login anymore, lackeys aren't doing their job and bullets nor prices are changing.
Full log between me (Rix) and Veronica about this, including logs of Misshysteria and CorluKa.
Interesting parts from the full logs:
[CorluKa] second person today
[CorluKa] someone is on database
[CorluKa] e have to wait until tomorrow
[CorluKa] fuck
[CorluKa] we*
[VeroAfk] well i had 12 mills
[VeroAfk] and it was gone in few secs
[CorluKa] dont know
[CorluKa] whta the fuck
[CorluKa] is going on
[VeroAfk] :|
[Misshysteria|around] yeah i saw your log, but i don't know what it is yet
[Misshysteria|around] i am trying to get as much info as possible
[VeroAfk] hm oke
[VeroAfk] did it happend to more or only me?
[Misshysteria|around] not sure yet
[Misshysteria|around] you are the first i hear about it
[Misshysteria|around] well we are still investigating
Update:
All problems with Omerta itself, such as logging in and inactive lackeys, have been fixed very quickly. However, in the past hour, over $300mil has been lost again.
Update:
I managed to get an official answer from #help on this situation. Read below.
The official answer/statement is just as professional as we are used from our magnificent crew.
Update:
Another statement has been added. Thanks to Maki` for answering our questions professionally.
Probably last update on this matter:
The fog of mystery has been lifted after we were approached by a person who claimed he was the one behind all this. Read the full story here.
But this afternoon we saw with in the hour a money loss of over 800 Million and it kept dropping.
Object owners seemed to mysteriously lost large amounts of money, sometimes up to $200mil per person, without any traces. Admins could not find where the money went to either; it was just suddenly lower than before.
After the object owners went to complain in #help the objects got closed down.
A total of over 1 billion dollar got lost due this.
We have no clue when the objects will be open again.
UPDATE:
Objects have been opened again. It seems the casino owners who lost money wont receive compensation, even tho this was not a bug, and also no one gained anything from it.
Update 4th July:
The troubles are far from over, it seems. After first the object owners loosing money, now it's up to some regular players which are having the same problem. Admins do not seem to have a good explanation about what is going on, but they did say "someone is on our db", meaning someone has hacked himself into the database where all the player data is stored of Omerta, and changed money of certain players there manually, resulting in money loss without any actual transfers. As we speak, the game itself is having large troubles as well. Nobody can login anymore, lackeys aren't doing their job and bullets nor prices are changing.
Full log between me (Rix) and Veronica about this, including logs of Misshysteria and CorluKa.
Interesting parts from the full logs:
[CorluKa] second person today
[CorluKa] someone is on database
[CorluKa] e have to wait until tomorrow
[CorluKa] fuck
[CorluKa] we*
[VeroAfk] well i had 12 mills
[VeroAfk] and it was gone in few secs
[CorluKa] dont know
[CorluKa] whta the fuck
[CorluKa] is going on
[VeroAfk] :|
[Misshysteria|around] yeah i saw your log, but i don't know what it is yet
[Misshysteria|around] i am trying to get as much info as possible
[VeroAfk] hm oke
[VeroAfk] did it happend to more or only me?
[Misshysteria|around] not sure yet
[Misshysteria|around] you are the first i hear about it
[Misshysteria|around] well we are still investigating
Update:
All problems with Omerta itself, such as logging in and inactive lackeys, have been fixed very quickly. However, in the past hour, over $300mil has been lost again.
Update:
I managed to get an official answer from #help on this situation. Read below.
The official answer/statement is just as professional as we are used from our magnificent crew.
Update:
Another statement has been added. Thanks to Maki` for answering our questions professionally.
Probably last update on this matter:
The fog of mystery has been lifted after we were approached by a person who claimed he was the one behind all this. Read the full story here.
statements
Rocer: Omerta does not refund for bugs - BUT - this was NOT a bug. It was down to mischief and we are still looking for the mischief maker. When we find that account it will be pilloried. We won't change policy for this.
kiti`vbusy: we cannot pay back these losing
Official statement from #help:
[Rix] Can I please get an official answer or statement for our newssite (OBN) why you are not closing down the game for the time the problems are still present, why you are not refunding the money while it is not a bug but a hack and if you are thinking about a rollback? Also I demand to know if any personal data such as emails and (hopefully hashed) passwords have been stolen.
[kiti`vbusy] !done Rix this is a exaggration man
* Helpster sets ban on *!*[email protected]
* You have been kicked from #help by Helpster (this is a exaggration man)
Part two:
[Maki`] hi Rix
[Rix] Even IF I was exagorating, you could stillanswer my questions
[Maki`] which would be?
[Rix] Can I please get an official answer or statement for our newssite (OBN) why you are not closing down the game for the time the problems are still present, why you are not refunding the money while it is not a bug but a hack and if you are thinking about a rollback? Also I demand to know if any personal data such as emails and (hopefully hashed) passwords have been stolen.
[Rix] Those
[Rix] I am very worried for my email and pw's
[Becherovka] yeah i dont see no exaggeration in those questions either
[Badeendje] which questions
[Maki`] as we, the admins, dont have a positiv feedback from the dev's side we cant give you any
[Badeendje] you only make a statement
[Becherovka] do u even have any idea about whats going on to your DB Badeendje??
[Rix] Is there someone else which can answer those questions then?
[Badeendje] no, neither do you
[Becherovka] it seems you dont know anythin either
[Rix] I understand you guys can't as helpers
[Badeendje] there's a big difference between management/devs & crew
[Badeendje] crew cannot view database etc... etc.. etc...
[Badeendje] so we have no clue were all the money went
[Rix] Then please ask a dev
[Becherovka] drunkengamer taking revenge or so ?
[Maki`] we cant ask dev's as they're working to fix this
[Becherovka] :D
[Rix] Can we perhaps get some answers from Brando or Bramlerose then?
[Maki`] if they'd be here, sure
[Maki`] but they arent im afraid
[Rix] You have no idea where they are?
[Maki`] i guess at the office, but i dont no
[Rix] Can you perhaps either call or text them then, being that it's safe to say this is a time of crisis for Omerta
[Rix] And we would really appreciete a public statement
[Maki`] there'll be one im sure
[Maki`] just be patient a little
[Rix] WEll it's hard to be patient if everything is falling appart around us
[Rix] well not literraly
[Rix] But the ingame economy is
[Maki`] sure i can understand that
[Maki`] but thats how it is atm, believe me ... i also dont need this all :D
[Rix] Alright
[Rix] so you have no way to contact them at this moment?
[Maki`] sure we do, and im sure someone else already did, and that they're supporting dev's to fix this
[Maki`] whatever they do, its OMerta related for sure ;D
[Rix] Well if you can reach them, maybe you can ask them to close the game down entirely for now, being that a lot of players are asking for it
[Rix] To be our voice to them, so to say
[Maki`] alright Rix, anything else then?
[Maki`] btw, am i in the news now? :o
[Rix] Yes you are
[Rix] And no this is it, please tell them our message :)
[Rix] I will update the article with this log in a few minutes :p
[Maki`] woey im the news :)
[Rix] Hehe
[Maki`] i'll be famous one day!
[Rix] done me or devoice me so I can copy this log :p
[Maki`] !done Rix
kiti`vbusy: we cannot pay back these losing
Official statement from #help:
[Rix] Can I please get an official answer or statement for our newssite (OBN) why you are not closing down the game for the time the problems are still present, why you are not refunding the money while it is not a bug but a hack and if you are thinking about a rollback? Also I demand to know if any personal data such as emails and (hopefully hashed) passwords have been stolen.
[kiti`vbusy] !done Rix this is a exaggration man
* Helpster sets ban on *!*[email protected]
* You have been kicked from #help by Helpster (this is a exaggration man)
Part two:
[Maki`] hi Rix
[Rix] Even IF I was exagorating, you could stillanswer my questions
[Maki`] which would be?
[Rix] Can I please get an official answer or statement for our newssite (OBN) why you are not closing down the game for the time the problems are still present, why you are not refunding the money while it is not a bug but a hack and if you are thinking about a rollback? Also I demand to know if any personal data such as emails and (hopefully hashed) passwords have been stolen.
[Rix] Those
[Rix] I am very worried for my email and pw's
[Becherovka] yeah i dont see no exaggeration in those questions either
[Badeendje] which questions
[Maki`] as we, the admins, dont have a positiv feedback from the dev's side we cant give you any
[Badeendje] you only make a statement
[Becherovka] do u even have any idea about whats going on to your DB Badeendje??
[Rix] Is there someone else which can answer those questions then?
[Badeendje] no, neither do you
[Becherovka] it seems you dont know anythin either
[Rix] I understand you guys can't as helpers
[Badeendje] there's a big difference between management/devs & crew
[Badeendje] crew cannot view database etc... etc.. etc...
[Badeendje] so we have no clue were all the money went
[Rix] Then please ask a dev
[Becherovka] drunkengamer taking revenge or so ?
[Maki`] we cant ask dev's as they're working to fix this
[Becherovka] :D
[Rix] Can we perhaps get some answers from Brando or Bramlerose then?
[Maki`] if they'd be here, sure
[Maki`] but they arent im afraid
[Rix] You have no idea where they are?
[Maki`] i guess at the office, but i dont no
[Rix] Can you perhaps either call or text them then, being that it's safe to say this is a time of crisis for Omerta
[Rix] And we would really appreciete a public statement
[Maki`] there'll be one im sure
[Maki`] just be patient a little
[Rix] WEll it's hard to be patient if everything is falling appart around us
[Rix] well not literraly
[Rix] But the ingame economy is
[Maki`] sure i can understand that
[Maki`] but thats how it is atm, believe me ... i also dont need this all :D
[Rix] Alright
[Rix] so you have no way to contact them at this moment?
[Maki`] sure we do, and im sure someone else already did, and that they're supporting dev's to fix this
[Maki`] whatever they do, its OMerta related for sure ;D
[Rix] Well if you can reach them, maybe you can ask them to close the game down entirely for now, being that a lot of players are asking for it
[Rix] To be our voice to them, so to say
[Maki`] alright Rix, anything else then?
[Maki`] btw, am i in the news now? :o
[Rix] Yes you are
[Rix] And no this is it, please tell them our message :)
[Rix] I will update the article with this log in a few minutes :p
[Maki`] woey im the news :)
[Rix] Hehe
[Maki`] i'll be famous one day!
[Rix] done me or devoice me so I can copy this log :p
[Maki`] !done Rix
so you guys are blaming turks for crying becaus a hater fucked up their game or let me say the whole game becaus he hates turks
Redspeert at 22:07:04 on 05/07:
Turks and their cry about racism. Its funny.
Anonymous at 11:55:27 on 05/07:
@sbanks u r idiot or racist?? we are always loosing money? can u understand? how can we go on playing, buy bullets hire dedectives buy/sell n-b etc.. it seems normal and u r talking about we are crying..
lemme give u an example grom last version.. why did u kill me im poor buster (wiyh millions from an object ) bla bla bla.. do u remember?
@sbanks u r idiot or racist?? we are always loosing money? can u understand? how can we go on playing, buy bullets hire dedectives buy/sell n-b etc.. it seems normal and u r talking about we are crying..
lemme give u an example grom last version.. why did u kill me im poor buster (wiyh millions from an object ) bla bla bla.. do u remember?
Turks and their cry about racism. Its funny.
What do you cry about? What if someone started picking on you couse you are a jew.. o wait someone did that 50 years ago and we all know what happened.. so STFU
Anonymous at 11:55:27 on 05/07:
@sbanks u r idiot or racist?? we are always loosing money? can u understand? how can we go on playing, buy bullets hire dedectives buy/sell n-b etc.. it seems normal and u r talking about we are crying..
lemme give u an example grom last version.. why did u kill me im poor buster (wiyh millions from an object ) bla bla bla.. do u remember?
@sbanks u r idiot or racist?? we are always loosing money? can u understand? how can we go on playing, buy bullets hire dedectives buy/sell n-b etc.. it seems normal and u r talking about we are crying..
lemme give u an example grom last version.. why did u kill me im poor buster (wiyh millions from an object ) bla bla bla.. do u remember?
Turks and their cry about racism. Its funny.
Anonymous (11:55:27 - 05-07)
@sbanks u r idiot or racist?? we are always loosing money? can u understand? how can we go on playing, buy bullets hire dedectives buy/sell n-b etc.. it seems normal and u r talking about we are crying..
lemme give u an example grom last version.. why did u kill me im poor buster (wiyh millions from an object ) bla bla bla.. do u remember?
lemme give u an example grom last version.. why did u kill me im poor buster (wiyh millions from an object ) bla bla bla.. do u remember?
sbanks at 22:38:39 on 04/07:
tell turkuz,
look at their fampage... well.. i tried translating it... rofl, i suggest they use google translate next time..
also i've seen some images like: profile picture
really... google translate is an option aswell.. would prolly make more sense then this
Lazygun at 21:58:41 on 04/07:
if you play this game you know these kind of things happen. Dont cry about it ;)
if you play this game you know these kind of things happen. Dont cry about it ;)
tell turkuz,
look at their fampage... well.. i tried translating it... rofl, i suggest they use google translate next time..
also i've seen some images like: profile picture
really... google translate is an option aswell.. would prolly make more sense then this
a new day, a new idiot! again again againnn I am bored the idiots & noobs & racist
You can just discuss and have fun with their English instead of the men against the Turks,
who was doing racism. They've messed up with the game and admins cannot do anything to
fix this problem but sorry I got it! you can only see just you want to see.
!fuck off idiots and racists , reaLy you fuck this game ...
Anonymous (09:13:20 - 05-07)
Anonymous at 21:36:02 on 04/07:
guardians too....owww guess what?... they are all bloods:')
Anonymous at 21:12:58 on 04/07:
firenze objects still running too ;))
Anonymous at 20:22:59 on 04/07:
Why aren't some fams not effected? Camorra is still running 10 million maxbet while other fams get fucked BIGTIME..multiple times..hmm
Why aren't some fams not effected? Camorra is still running 10 million maxbet while other fams get fucked BIGTIME..multiple times..hmm
firenze objects still running too ;))
guardians too....owww guess what?... they are all bloods:')
it's not conspiracy theory anymore:')
roll back is only way out of this mess
Lazygun (07:50:51 - 05-07)
sbanks at 22:38:39 on 04/07:
tell turkuz,
look at their fampage... well.. i tried translating it... rofl, i suggest they use google translate next time..
also i've seen some images like: profile picture
really... google translate is an option aswell.. would prolly make more sense then this
Lazygun at 21:58:41 on 04/07:
if you play this game you know these kind of things happen. Dont cry about it ;)
if you play this game you know these kind of things happen. Dont cry about it ;)
tell turkuz,
look at their fampage... well.. i tried translating it... rofl, i suggest they use google translate next time..
also i've seen some images like: profile picture
really... google translate is an option aswell.. would prolly make more sense then this
Anonymous (06:05:30 - 05-07)
how did money go up for 200m $ at 4AM in 1m only?
Anonymous (23:30:45 - 04-07)
Anonymous at 20:22:59 on 04/07:
Why aren't some fams not effected? Camorra is still running 10 million maxbet while other fams get fucked BIGTIME..multiple times..hmm
Why aren't some fams not effected? Camorra is still running 10 million maxbet while other fams get fucked BIGTIME..multiple times..hmm
who said camorra didnt effected ? we lost more than 200mil in a blink of an eye conspiracy needs some iq smartass ;)
Lazygun at 21:58:41 on 04/07:
if you play this game you know these kind of things happen. Dont cry about it ;)
if you play this game you know these kind of things happen. Dont cry about it ;)
tell turkuz,
look at their fampage... well.. i tried translating it... rofl, i suggest they use google translate next time..
also i've seen some images like: profile picture
really... google translate is an option aswell.. would prolly make more sense then this
Lazygun (21:58:41 - 04-07)
if you play this game you know these kind of things happen. Dont cry about it ;)
War started on: 20:34:01 04-07-2011
Bullet difference: -1,815
Money difference: -$147,419,839 Players died: 5
Money money money... Must be funny... In the hacker's world...
Bullet difference: -1,815
Money difference: -$147,419,839 Players died: 5
Money money money... Must be funny... In the hacker's world...
Anonymous (21:36:02 - 04-07)
Anonymous at 21:12:58 on 04/07:
firenze objects still running too ;))
Anonymous at 20:22:59 on 04/07:
Why aren't some fams not effected? Camorra is still running 10 million maxbet while other fams get fucked BIGTIME..multiple times..hmm
Why aren't some fams not effected? Camorra is still running 10 million maxbet while other fams get fucked BIGTIME..multiple times..hmm
firenze objects still running too ;))
guardians too....owww guess what?... they are all bloods:')
Anonymous (21:12:58 - 04-07)
Anonymous at 20:22:59 on 04/07:
Why aren't some fams not effected? Camorra is still running 10 million maxbet while other fams get fucked BIGTIME..multiple times..hmm
Why aren't some fams not effected? Camorra is still running 10 million maxbet while other fams get fucked BIGTIME..multiple times..hmm
firenze objects still running too ;))
Deston at 21:04:00 on 04/07:
Rixie is smart! ^_^
Rix at 20:47:24 on 04/07:
And yes, good sites encrypt passwords by hashing. But Omerta isn't a good website in that way. Even other large commercial sites do not always do this proper, and if they do they usually use something easy (like an encryption method called MD5).
I can comfort you guys that THIS site uses a 512 bit digest hash (128 characters) and is salted. For comparison: that's just as strong as the American Pentagon used up to two years ago (they switched recently I believe to a new 1024 bit digest hash).
And yes, good sites encrypt passwords by hashing. But Omerta isn't a good website in that way. Even other large commercial sites do not always do this proper, and if they do they usually use something easy (like an encryption method called MD5).
I can comfort you guys that THIS site uses a 512 bit digest hash (128 characters) and is salted. For comparison: that's just as strong as the American Pentagon used up to two years ago (they switched recently I believe to a new 1024 bit digest hash).
Boleone at 20:50:11 on 04/07:
Yeah, I was just saying that with a proper Username you can access some places :) Hope so that we are protected :) And just remind me, when you forget a password, you do not receive your old one? Or you do?
Yeah, I was just saying that with a proper Username you can access some places :) Hope so that we are protected :) And just remind me, when you forget a password, you do not receive your old one? Or you do?
But the most standard encryption methods are hackable within days nowadays though.
Rix at 20:47:24 on 04/07:
And yes, good sites encrypt passwords by hashing. But Omerta isn't a good website in that way. Even other large commercial sites do not always do this proper, and if they do they usually use something easy (like an encryption method called MD5).
I can comfort you guys that THIS site uses a 512 bit digest hash (128 characters) and is salted. For comparison: that's just as strong as the American Pentagon used up to two years ago (they switched recently I believe to a new 1024 bit digest hash).
And yes, good sites encrypt passwords by hashing. But Omerta isn't a good website in that way. Even other large commercial sites do not always do this proper, and if they do they usually use something easy (like an encryption method called MD5).
I can comfort you guys that THIS site uses a 512 bit digest hash (128 characters) and is salted. For comparison: that's just as strong as the American Pentagon used up to two years ago (they switched recently I believe to a new 1024 bit digest hash).
Yeah, I was just saying that with a proper Username you can access some places :) Hope so that we are protected :) And just remind me, when you forget a password, you do not receive your old one? Or you do?