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Due "whatever" reason.. some people call it a bug, some people call it something with the database, some people its a mysterious link again..
But this afternoon we saw with in the hour a money loss of over 800 Million and it kept dropping.
Object owners seemed to mysteriously lost large amounts of money, sometimes up to $200mil per person, without any traces. Admins could not find where the money went to either; it was just suddenly lower than before.
After the object owners went to complain in #help the objects got closed down.
A total of over 1 billion dollar got lost due this.
We have no clue when the objects will be open again.
UPDATE:
Objects have been opened again. It seems the casino owners who lost money wont receive compensation, even tho this was not a bug, and also no one gained anything from it.
Update 4th July:
The troubles are far from over, it seems. After first the object owners loosing money, now it's up to some regular players which are having the same problem. Admins do not seem to have a good explanation about what is going on, but they did say "someone is on our db", meaning someone has hacked himself into the database where all the player data is stored of Omerta, and changed money of certain players there manually, resulting in money loss without any actual transfers. As we speak, the game itself is having large troubles as well. Nobody can login anymore, lackeys aren't doing their job and bullets nor prices are changing.
Full log between me (Rix) and Veronica about this, including logs of Misshysteria and CorluKa.
Interesting parts from the full logs:
[CorluKa] second person today
[CorluKa] someone is on database
[CorluKa] e have to wait until tomorrow
[CorluKa] fuck
[CorluKa] we*
[VeroAfk] well i had 12 mills
[VeroAfk] and it was gone in few secs
[CorluKa] dont know
[CorluKa] whta the fuck
[CorluKa] is going on
[VeroAfk] :|
[Misshysteria|around] yeah i saw your log, but i don't know what it is yet
[Misshysteria|around] i am trying to get as much info as possible
[VeroAfk] hm oke
[VeroAfk] did it happend to more or only me?
[Misshysteria|around] not sure yet
[Misshysteria|around] you are the first i hear about it
[Misshysteria|around] well we are still investigating
Update:
All problems with Omerta itself, such as logging in and inactive lackeys, have been fixed very quickly. However, in the past hour, over $300mil has been lost again.
Update:
I managed to get an official answer from #help on this situation. Read below.
The official answer/statement is just as professional as we are used from our magnificent crew.
Update:
Another statement has been added. Thanks to Maki` for answering our questions professionally.
Probably last update on this matter:
The fog of mystery has been lifted after we were approached by a person who claimed he was the one behind all this. Read the full story here.
But this afternoon we saw with in the hour a money loss of over 800 Million and it kept dropping.
Object owners seemed to mysteriously lost large amounts of money, sometimes up to $200mil per person, without any traces. Admins could not find where the money went to either; it was just suddenly lower than before.
After the object owners went to complain in #help the objects got closed down.
A total of over 1 billion dollar got lost due this.
We have no clue when the objects will be open again.
UPDATE:
Objects have been opened again. It seems the casino owners who lost money wont receive compensation, even tho this was not a bug, and also no one gained anything from it.
Update 4th July:
The troubles are far from over, it seems. After first the object owners loosing money, now it's up to some regular players which are having the same problem. Admins do not seem to have a good explanation about what is going on, but they did say "someone is on our db", meaning someone has hacked himself into the database where all the player data is stored of Omerta, and changed money of certain players there manually, resulting in money loss without any actual transfers. As we speak, the game itself is having large troubles as well. Nobody can login anymore, lackeys aren't doing their job and bullets nor prices are changing.
Full log between me (Rix) and Veronica about this, including logs of Misshysteria and CorluKa.
Interesting parts from the full logs:
[CorluKa] second person today
[CorluKa] someone is on database
[CorluKa] e have to wait until tomorrow
[CorluKa] fuck
[CorluKa] we*
[VeroAfk] well i had 12 mills
[VeroAfk] and it was gone in few secs
[CorluKa] dont know
[CorluKa] whta the fuck
[CorluKa] is going on
[VeroAfk] :|
[Misshysteria|around] yeah i saw your log, but i don't know what it is yet
[Misshysteria|around] i am trying to get as much info as possible
[VeroAfk] hm oke
[VeroAfk] did it happend to more or only me?
[Misshysteria|around] not sure yet
[Misshysteria|around] you are the first i hear about it
[Misshysteria|around] well we are still investigating
Update:
All problems with Omerta itself, such as logging in and inactive lackeys, have been fixed very quickly. However, in the past hour, over $300mil has been lost again.
Update:
I managed to get an official answer from #help on this situation. Read below.
The official answer/statement is just as professional as we are used from our magnificent crew.
Update:
Another statement has been added. Thanks to Maki` for answering our questions professionally.
Probably last update on this matter:
The fog of mystery has been lifted after we were approached by a person who claimed he was the one behind all this. Read the full story here.
statements
Rocer: Omerta does not refund for bugs - BUT - this was NOT a bug. It was down to mischief and we are still looking for the mischief maker. When we find that account it will be pilloried. We won't change policy for this.
kiti`vbusy: we cannot pay back these losing
Official statement from #help:
[Rix] Can I please get an official answer or statement for our newssite (OBN) why you are not closing down the game for the time the problems are still present, why you are not refunding the money while it is not a bug but a hack and if you are thinking about a rollback? Also I demand to know if any personal data such as emails and (hopefully hashed) passwords have been stolen.
[kiti`vbusy] !done Rix this is a exaggration man
* Helpster sets ban on *!*[email protected]
* You have been kicked from #help by Helpster (this is a exaggration man)
Part two:
[Maki`] hi Rix
[Rix] Even IF I was exagorating, you could stillanswer my questions
[Maki`] which would be?
[Rix] Can I please get an official answer or statement for our newssite (OBN) why you are not closing down the game for the time the problems are still present, why you are not refunding the money while it is not a bug but a hack and if you are thinking about a rollback? Also I demand to know if any personal data such as emails and (hopefully hashed) passwords have been stolen.
[Rix] Those
[Rix] I am very worried for my email and pw's
[Becherovka] yeah i dont see no exaggeration in those questions either
[Badeendje] which questions
[Maki`] as we, the admins, dont have a positiv feedback from the dev's side we cant give you any
[Badeendje] you only make a statement
[Becherovka] do u even have any idea about whats going on to your DB Badeendje??
[Rix] Is there someone else which can answer those questions then?
[Badeendje] no, neither do you
[Becherovka] it seems you dont know anythin either
[Rix] I understand you guys can't as helpers
[Badeendje] there's a big difference between management/devs & crew
[Badeendje] crew cannot view database etc... etc.. etc...
[Badeendje] so we have no clue were all the money went
[Rix] Then please ask a dev
[Becherovka] drunkengamer taking revenge or so ?
[Maki`] we cant ask dev's as they're working to fix this
[Becherovka] :D
[Rix] Can we perhaps get some answers from Brando or Bramlerose then?
[Maki`] if they'd be here, sure
[Maki`] but they arent im afraid
[Rix] You have no idea where they are?
[Maki`] i guess at the office, but i dont no
[Rix] Can you perhaps either call or text them then, being that it's safe to say this is a time of crisis for Omerta
[Rix] And we would really appreciete a public statement
[Maki`] there'll be one im sure
[Maki`] just be patient a little
[Rix] WEll it's hard to be patient if everything is falling appart around us
[Rix] well not literraly
[Rix] But the ingame economy is
[Maki`] sure i can understand that
[Maki`] but thats how it is atm, believe me ... i also dont need this all :D
[Rix] Alright
[Rix] so you have no way to contact them at this moment?
[Maki`] sure we do, and im sure someone else already did, and that they're supporting dev's to fix this
[Maki`] whatever they do, its OMerta related for sure ;D
[Rix] Well if you can reach them, maybe you can ask them to close the game down entirely for now, being that a lot of players are asking for it
[Rix] To be our voice to them, so to say
[Maki`] alright Rix, anything else then?
[Maki`] btw, am i in the news now? :o
[Rix] Yes you are
[Rix] And no this is it, please tell them our message :)
[Rix] I will update the article with this log in a few minutes :p
[Maki`] woey im the news :)
[Rix] Hehe
[Maki`] i'll be famous one day!
[Rix] done me or devoice me so I can copy this log :p
[Maki`] !done Rix
kiti`vbusy: we cannot pay back these losing
Official statement from #help:
[Rix] Can I please get an official answer or statement for our newssite (OBN) why you are not closing down the game for the time the problems are still present, why you are not refunding the money while it is not a bug but a hack and if you are thinking about a rollback? Also I demand to know if any personal data such as emails and (hopefully hashed) passwords have been stolen.
[kiti`vbusy] !done Rix this is a exaggration man
* Helpster sets ban on *!*[email protected]
* You have been kicked from #help by Helpster (this is a exaggration man)
Part two:
[Maki`] hi Rix
[Rix] Even IF I was exagorating, you could stillanswer my questions
[Maki`] which would be?
[Rix] Can I please get an official answer or statement for our newssite (OBN) why you are not closing down the game for the time the problems are still present, why you are not refunding the money while it is not a bug but a hack and if you are thinking about a rollback? Also I demand to know if any personal data such as emails and (hopefully hashed) passwords have been stolen.
[Rix] Those
[Rix] I am very worried for my email and pw's
[Becherovka] yeah i dont see no exaggeration in those questions either
[Badeendje] which questions
[Maki`] as we, the admins, dont have a positiv feedback from the dev's side we cant give you any
[Badeendje] you only make a statement
[Becherovka] do u even have any idea about whats going on to your DB Badeendje??
[Rix] Is there someone else which can answer those questions then?
[Badeendje] no, neither do you
[Becherovka] it seems you dont know anythin either
[Rix] I understand you guys can't as helpers
[Badeendje] there's a big difference between management/devs & crew
[Badeendje] crew cannot view database etc... etc.. etc...
[Badeendje] so we have no clue were all the money went
[Rix] Then please ask a dev
[Becherovka] drunkengamer taking revenge or so ?
[Maki`] we cant ask dev's as they're working to fix this
[Becherovka] :D
[Rix] Can we perhaps get some answers from Brando or Bramlerose then?
[Maki`] if they'd be here, sure
[Maki`] but they arent im afraid
[Rix] You have no idea where they are?
[Maki`] i guess at the office, but i dont no
[Rix] Can you perhaps either call or text them then, being that it's safe to say this is a time of crisis for Omerta
[Rix] And we would really appreciete a public statement
[Maki`] there'll be one im sure
[Maki`] just be patient a little
[Rix] WEll it's hard to be patient if everything is falling appart around us
[Rix] well not literraly
[Rix] But the ingame economy is
[Maki`] sure i can understand that
[Maki`] but thats how it is atm, believe me ... i also dont need this all :D
[Rix] Alright
[Rix] so you have no way to contact them at this moment?
[Maki`] sure we do, and im sure someone else already did, and that they're supporting dev's to fix this
[Maki`] whatever they do, its OMerta related for sure ;D
[Rix] Well if you can reach them, maybe you can ask them to close the game down entirely for now, being that a lot of players are asking for it
[Rix] To be our voice to them, so to say
[Maki`] alright Rix, anything else then?
[Maki`] btw, am i in the news now? :o
[Rix] Yes you are
[Rix] And no this is it, please tell them our message :)
[Rix] I will update the article with this log in a few minutes :p
[Maki`] woey im the news :)
[Rix] Hehe
[Maki`] i'll be famous one day!
[Rix] done me or devoice me so I can copy this log :p
[Maki`] !done Rix
Anonymous (14:13:47 - 04-07)
Anonymous (13:25:00 - 04-07)
Boleone at 12:49:04 on 04/07:
Kurosawa Wars: 9
Turkuz Wars: 8
Am I missing something? Or my math is bad?
lol at 11:05:55 on 04/07:
it is funny to see how the biggest whiners are the fams that never shoot (kuro, turkuz). its not like you guys need the money to buy bullets anyway :')
it is funny to see how the biggest whiners are the fams that never shoot (kuro, turkuz). its not like you guys need the money to buy bullets anyway :')
Kurosawa Wars: 9
Turkuz Wars: 8
Am I missing something? Or my math is bad?
40-50?
Anonymous (12:56:41 - 04-07)
Boleone at 12:49:04 on 04/07:
Kurosawa Wars: 9
Turkuz Wars: 8
Am I missing something? Or my math is bad?
lol at 11:05:55 on 04/07:
it is funny to see how the biggest whiners are the fams that never shoot (kuro, turkuz). its not like you guys need the money to buy bullets anyway :')
it is funny to see how the biggest whiners are the fams that never shoot (kuro, turkuz). its not like you guys need the money to buy bullets anyway :')
Kurosawa Wars: 9
Turkuz Wars: 8
Am I missing something? Or my math is bad?
some players just can speaking like lol.. or he is bad at math..
lol at 11:05:55 on 04/07:
it is funny to see how the biggest whiners are the fams that never shoot (kuro, turkuz). its not like you guys need the money to buy bullets anyway :')
it is funny to see how the biggest whiners are the fams that never shoot (kuro, turkuz). its not like you guys need the money to buy bullets anyway :')
Kurosawa Wars: 9
Turkuz Wars: 8
Am I missing something? Or my math is bad?
Anonymous (11:19:28 - 04-07)
it seems admins can do just akiils and revive who they want..
anythingelse?
anythingelse?
lol (11:05:55 - 04-07)
it is funny to see how the biggest whiners are the fams that never shoot (kuro, turkuz). its not like you guys need the money to buy bullets anyway :')
Anonymous (10:43:49 - 04-07)
Boleone at 07:28:03 on 04/07:
250-300 DCs is like 1 billion :) Dinner at a fancy restaurant? :))) Just kidding ofc, but it is really funny if you do not compensate the losses of the owners (and/or others that lost money)...
250-300 DCs is like 1 billion :) Dinner at a fancy restaurant? :))) Just kidding ofc, but it is really funny if you do not compensate the losses of the owners (and/or others that lost money)...
they will probably introduce a new complaining lackey for us =)
and guess what it works with 2
250-300 DCs is like 1 billion :) Dinner at a fancy restaurant? :))) Just kidding ofc, but it is really funny if you do not compensate the losses of the owners (and/or others that lost money)...
Trza (07:27:22 - 04-07)
Anonymous at 22:47:40 on 02/07:
As far as i can see it, money is disappearing from the game. So that script wouldnt make the users rich...
Trza at 22:15:45 on 02/07:[/b
Rollback ? pff so funny ,this shit is going on for last 1 mount and admins got repot early but they did do anything ..... there is script for gambling i think prise is 40$ as i hear ,in start only couple of them were using it, but now seams that more ppl brought it ... and hove is possible to get rollback for that kind of money ?:) billions .... we can just say owners of this game thx for notice cheat on time :P
Rollback ? pff so funny ,this shit is going on for last 1 mount and admins got repot early but they did do anything ..... there is script for gambling i think prise is 40$ as i hear ,in start only couple of them were using it, but now seams that more ppl brought it ... and hove is possible to get rollback for that kind of money ?:) billions .... we can just say owners of this game thx for notice cheat on time :P
As far as i can see it, money is disappearing from the game. So that script wouldnt make the users rich...
disappearing ?:`) hove can something just disappare :) :) dont swallow everything what they serve ... :)
#help %-admins thx alot for fixing ourh problems for last 3 mounts and giving us same fuking answer everytime "find brando/bramble" "contact @feedsblablabla"
ppl image that money from donation codes just "disappare",hove long will take that to fix ?:)
ehrman at 23:13:16 on 03/07:
here is the thing
why there is "Omerta crew" ?
control the game and to provide justice right ?
if there are some cheating bastards who fucks the objects and there are huge amount of money loss;
here is what to do;
catch the bastard (if you can)
and compensate the money to object holders
simple as that!
but the question remains
can they accomplish such a thing ? :D
ps: rollback would be very messy and big time fail.
here is the thing
why there is "Omerta crew" ?
control the game and to provide justice right ?
if there are some cheating bastards who fucks the objects and there are huge amount of money loss;
here is what to do;
catch the bastard (if you can)
and compensate the money to object holders
simple as that!
but the question remains
can they accomplish such a thing ? :D
ps: rollback would be very messy and big time fail.
+10000000000
admins said we fix the probLem and we wont give your Loses back,but bastards stiLL work and take our money in our packets.we want our money back ...
I guess New sLogan Must be '' no buy more donation codes ''
here is the thing
why there is "Omerta crew" ?
control the game and to provide justice right ?
if there are some cheating bastards who fucks the objects and there are huge amount of money loss;
here is what to do;
catch the bastard (if you can)
and compensate the money to object holders
simple as that!
but the question remains
can they accomplish such a thing ? :D
ps: rollback would be very messy and big time fail.
why there is "Omerta crew" ?
control the game and to provide justice right ?
if there are some cheating bastards who fucks the objects and there are huge amount of money loss;
here is what to do;
catch the bastard (if you can)
and compensate the money to object holders
simple as that!
but the question remains
can they accomplish such a thing ? :D
ps: rollback would be very messy and big time fail.
Rocer: Omerta does not refund for bugs - BUT - this was NOT a bug. It was down to mischief and we are still looking for the mischief maker. When we find that account it will be pilloried. We won't change policy for this.
Why does someone need an account to make your lifes miserable? :) Probably some lackeyHATER XD
Why does someone need an account to make your lifes miserable? :) Probably some lackeyHATER XD
Seth (21:28:53 - 03-07)
Boleone at 21:24:53 on 03/07:
It is not to late, just more work :) I think they can trace absolutely everything that happened... So, rise up and give money back to the players ;) Cheers to the crew and to the Master of Disaster who brought us to this situation :)
It is not to late, just more work :) I think they can trace absolutely everything that happened... So, rise up and give money back to the players ;) Cheers to the crew and to the Master of Disaster who brought us to this situation :)
It is not to late, just more work :) I think they can trace absolutely everything that happened... So, rise up and give money back to the players ;) Cheers to the crew and to the Master of Disaster who brought us to this situation :)
They should have closed down the game after it happened. Now it is too late indeed.
Seth (20:32:11 - 03-07)
They could do a roll back indeed. But that would suck big time, because its over 24h when it happend. So alot of money/rp etc was gain, so you actualy hurt more ppl then you help. So in my opion a rollback is bad.
Anonymous at 20:02:09 on 03/07:
like it is traceable which account lost what amounts of money..
And as we all know, the average player on omerta is not to be trusted for even a penny. i see the average player claiming they lost money, but never did, or claiming he lost 200m where he reallty only lost 20. so ofcourse they will not refund
sensje at 19:12:43 on 03/07:
<%Rocer> it was a attacking from a backdoor (#help)
Backdoor: A backdoor in a computer system (or cryptosystem or algorithm) is a method of bypassing normal authentication, securing remote access to a computer, obtaining access to plaintext, and so on, while attempting to remain undetected. The backdoor may take the form of an installed program (e.g., Back Orifice) or may subvert the system through a rootkit.
Who is responsible for this? Imo not the players but the administrators. So why do the players have to pay for this huge over 1.000 mil. Omerta dollars lost?
Now most players who are or haven't been affected by this backdoor attack need to buy/sell donationcodes to fill up the objects again, instead of administrators kept objects to refund them all.
Second any Developer or Systemexpert from Omerta could trace the traffic of the person(s) who used that backdoor.
I hope that the Omerta can find out who was responsible for this hack and refund the players as a cooperation does to his clients.
Cross fingers for you all.
<%Rocer> it was a attacking from a backdoor (#help)
Backdoor: A backdoor in a computer system (or cryptosystem or algorithm) is a method of bypassing normal authentication, securing remote access to a computer, obtaining access to plaintext, and so on, while attempting to remain undetected. The backdoor may take the form of an installed program (e.g., Back Orifice) or may subvert the system through a rootkit.
Who is responsible for this? Imo not the players but the administrators. So why do the players have to pay for this huge over 1.000 mil. Omerta dollars lost?
Now most players who are or haven't been affected by this backdoor attack need to buy/sell donationcodes to fill up the objects again, instead of administrators kept objects to refund them all.
Second any Developer or Systemexpert from Omerta could trace the traffic of the person(s) who used that backdoor.
I hope that the Omerta can find out who was responsible for this hack and refund the players as a cooperation does to his clients.
Cross fingers for you all.
like it is traceable which account lost what amounts of money..
And as we all know, the average player on omerta is not to be trusted for even a penny. i see the average player claiming they lost money, but never did, or claiming he lost 200m where he reallty only lost 20. so ofcourse they will not refund
Anonymous (20:02:09 - 03-07)
sensje at 19:12:43 on 03/07:
<%Rocer> it was a attacking from a backdoor (#help)
Backdoor: A backdoor in a computer system (or cryptosystem or algorithm) is a method of bypassing normal authentication, securing remote access to a computer, obtaining access to plaintext, and so on, while attempting to remain undetected. The backdoor may take the form of an installed program (e.g., Back Orifice) or may subvert the system through a rootkit.
Who is responsible for this? Imo not the players but the administrators. So why do the players have to pay for this huge over 1.000 mil. Omerta dollars lost?
Now most players who are or haven't been affected by this backdoor attack need to buy/sell donationcodes to fill up the objects again, instead of administrators kept objects to refund them all.
Second any Developer or Systemexpert from Omerta could trace the traffic of the person(s) who used that backdoor.
I hope that the Omerta can find out who was responsible for this hack and refund the players as a cooperation does to his clients.
Cross fingers for you all.
<%Rocer> it was a attacking from a backdoor (#help)
Backdoor: A backdoor in a computer system (or cryptosystem or algorithm) is a method of bypassing normal authentication, securing remote access to a computer, obtaining access to plaintext, and so on, while attempting to remain undetected. The backdoor may take the form of an installed program (e.g., Back Orifice) or may subvert the system through a rootkit.
Who is responsible for this? Imo not the players but the administrators. So why do the players have to pay for this huge over 1.000 mil. Omerta dollars lost?
Now most players who are or haven't been affected by this backdoor attack need to buy/sell donationcodes to fill up the objects again, instead of administrators kept objects to refund them all.
Second any Developer or Systemexpert from Omerta could trace the traffic of the person(s) who used that backdoor.
I hope that the Omerta can find out who was responsible for this hack and refund the players as a cooperation does to his clients.
Cross fingers for you all.
like it is traceable which account lost what amounts of money..
And as we all know, the average player on omerta is not to be trusted for even a penny. i see the average player claiming they lost money, but never did, or claiming he lost 200m where he reallty only lost 20. so ofcourse they will not refund
<%Rocer> it was a attacking from a backdoor (#help)
Backdoor: A backdoor in a computer system (or cryptosystem or algorithm) is a method of bypassing normal authentication, securing remote access to a computer, obtaining access to plaintext, and so on, while attempting to remain undetected. The backdoor may take the form of an installed program (e.g., Back Orifice) or may subvert the system through a rootkit.
Who is responsible for this? Imo not the players but the administrators. So why do the players have to pay for this huge over 1.000 mil. Omerta dollars lost?
Now most players who are or haven't been affected by this backdoor attack need to buy/sell donationcodes to fill up the objects again, instead of administrators kept objects to refund them all.
Second any Developer or Systemexpert from Omerta could trace the traffic of the person(s) who used that backdoor.
I hope that the Omerta can find out who was responsible for this hack and refund the players as a cooperation does to his clients.
Cross fingers for you all.
Backdoor: A backdoor in a computer system (or cryptosystem or algorithm) is a method of bypassing normal authentication, securing remote access to a computer, obtaining access to plaintext, and so on, while attempting to remain undetected. The backdoor may take the form of an installed program (e.g., Back Orifice) or may subvert the system through a rootkit.
Who is responsible for this? Imo not the players but the administrators. So why do the players have to pay for this huge over 1.000 mil. Omerta dollars lost?
Now most players who are or haven't been affected by this backdoor attack need to buy/sell donationcodes to fill up the objects again, instead of administrators kept objects to refund them all.
Second any Developer or Systemexpert from Omerta could trace the traffic of the person(s) who used that backdoor.
I hope that the Omerta can find out who was responsible for this hack and refund the players as a cooperation does to his clients.
Cross fingers for you all.
Anonymous (19:12:38 - 03-07)
Anonymous at 19:09:39 on 03/07:
The same way as marazzino :')
ishma at 18:41:29 on 03/07:
walk where? :')
hugo at 18:40:07 on 03/07:
we opened a chan to walk together with all fams who lost money ; #kayipp
we opened a chan to walk together with all fams who lost money ; #kayipp
walk where? :')
The same way as marazzino :')
I bet this was a failed attempt of bashing ishma?
ishma is not from Marazzino :o
it is funny to see how the biggest whiners are the fams that never shoot (kuro, turkuz). its not like you guys need the money to buy bullets anyway :')
Kurosawa Wars: 9
Turkuz Wars: 8
Am I missing something? Or my math is bad?
you shot alot in those "9 wars" rofl... pathetic