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This night we saw a major change to the game. From now on you will only gain rankprogress from busting if you have under 500 booze/narc attempts.
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Hello community,
We were all aware of the problems related to Jail abuse and we wanted to act into it without punishing the ones that really like to bust.
We've made a decision and at the moment:
- Jail bustouts will keep giving you RP ONLY if you have less than 500 booze/narcs attempts
With this decision, busters can keep being busters while having background lackeys and do full time buster is no longer possible.
Keeping in mind, that bustouts do make your account stronger in many other situations, but you will no longer win rank from it.
This decision has immediate effect and therefore it also applies to all bustouts of the past, the users with more than 500 Booze/Narcs attempts have lost all their rankpoints given by bustouts.
We think it is a fair solution and it keeps the game going on without any hard punishment.
Hope you enjoy, there are more changes to come within this week!
We are working on game balance and adapting city maps and kill skill.
o/
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THIS ACTION WILL NOT BE REMOVED/CONSIDERED, please avoid spamming e-mail or #help.
It's a major good and the real abusers were expecting it.
We were all aware of the problems related to Jail abuse and we wanted to act into it without punishing the ones that really like to bust.
We've made a decision and at the moment:
- Jail bustouts will keep giving you RP ONLY if you have less than 500 booze/narcs attempts
With this decision, busters can keep being busters while having background lackeys and do full time buster is no longer possible.
Keeping in mind, that bustouts do make your account stronger in many other situations, but you will no longer win rank from it.
This decision has immediate effect and therefore it also applies to all bustouts of the past, the users with more than 500 Booze/Narcs attempts have lost all their rankpoints given by bustouts.
We think it is a fair solution and it keeps the game going on without any hard punishment.
Hope you enjoy, there are more changes to come within this week!
We are working on game balance and adapting city maps and kill skill.
o/
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THIS ACTION WILL NOT BE REMOVED/CONSIDERED, please avoid spamming e-mail or #help.
It's a major good and the real abusers were expecting it.
zaba (13:18:09 - 14-01)
Anonymous (12:47:41 - 14-01)
KCode at 12:13:55 on 14/01:
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Well the people that were doing those bust outs all came from just a hand full of families, now we see the regular scripters on top again but they never get akilled anymore. For example Nokia with 80% on time has no busts but managed to stay in front on page 2, above a lot of bust maniacs. Pure scripting is rewarded either way.
Next to that the game is already out of balance since 4 big groups of Turkish families / alliances have already claimed and closed the only city that makes money: Detroit. Next to that their scripts didn't bust and are mlw all on the top page. So this fix has just lead to the next couple of scripters on top and the structural problem is this game: mass pacting/ mass blooding / mass alliances in combination with mass money in Detroit has become bigger than ever.
Solstice (12:29:00 - 14-01)
KCode at 12:13:55 on 14/01:
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Thing is you've hurt a lot of the players doing some manual work. I didn't do much on .com, but on .nl i sold 2 dc's for buy-out money and for clicklimit. I also put money in buy-outs and in Ray that i could've very well used for bullets and there have been credits going into crimes and car nicks that i wouldn't have used if i would've seen this coming. Luckily i didn't put that much time in and only got to 1000 busts or something. But other players that didn't do anything but lackey now have got an advantage over me moneywise.
Now i get that you can't change a million things at one. And if you had communicated this and would've told us this was coming from the getgo, most of us would've understood and wouldn't have wasted our time and money on it. But the communication has just been pisspoor. Which is a recurring theme.
Anonymous (12:24:23 - 14-01)
KCode at 12:13:55 on 14/01:
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
What about pay back dc's which people used for busting ? In begin of version alot sold dc to get Ray lvl 10 and buy out to gain adventage in busting. But like usual admins dont care anything and just keep being stubborn
Anonymous (12:17:00 - 14-01)
So then,the answer is simple "Why ariella was #1" ?
She don't know to rank,only bust.She not a player.
She don't know to rank,only bust.She not a player.
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Anonymous (11:34:32 - 14-01)
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
zaba (11:10:44 - 14-01)
finally nice move
So next version scripters will just not do b/n deals, since they get more rp's from their script..
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
Anonymous (09:45:14 - 14-01)
anonymous at 09:04:00 on 14/01:
- manual busters will suffer.
- manual busters will suffer.
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
anonymous (09:04:00 - 14-01)
mmm at 08:39:46 on 14/01:
I would have to say gratz to another bad move by the admins, they just lost another part of their playerbase.
I stand by this decision 100%, I think it's a good one. Their timing however, is horrible.
They had so many weeks leading up to the reset to prepare for this, surely they've noticed some accounts last version getting way ahead of others like this. But instead they're doing what they're usually good at doing, interfering with gameplay midgame.
I'm sure they caught a lot of scripters with this move, but a lot of manual labor was put in this stuff as well. They're punishing the people that worked hard as well. You can be sceptic and say 'well blame scripters for that'. No I wont, I blame admins for their impeccable timing.
Edit:
+ I'm also wondering about the changes they're mentioning, game balance, adapting city maps and kill skill.
If they're gonna change anything about this, they better do this now. Not when fams went up or when accounts gained KS.
I would have to say gratz to another bad move by the admins, they just lost another part of their playerbase.
I stand by this decision 100%, I think it's a good one. Their timing however, is horrible.
They had so many weeks leading up to the reset to prepare for this, surely they've noticed some accounts last version getting way ahead of others like this. But instead they're doing what they're usually good at doing, interfering with gameplay midgame.
I'm sure they caught a lot of scripters with this move, but a lot of manual labor was put in this stuff as well. They're punishing the people that worked hard as well. You can be sceptic and say 'well blame scripters for that'. No I wont, I blame admins for their impeccable timing.
Edit:
+ I'm also wondering about the changes they're mentioning, game balance, adapting city maps and kill skill.
If they're gonna change anything about this, they better do this now. Not when fams went up or when accounts gained KS.
+ remove bust rp so that script users wont gain rp
- manual busters will suffer
+ many manual busters do not want to rank anyway - easier and cheaper to bust
- all this TOO LATE - as said why not before this version?
- all the other things that are coming?? Same as above - should have be done before this version
+ I do not play, here is a reminder why I quit.
Admins knew this. Did shit. Now they do (shit). Same old same old.
Now we will wait next bug(/script) abusing. There always have been and there always will be. Just matter of time.
I would have to say gratz to another bad move by the admins, they just lost another part of their playerbase.
I stand by this decision 100%, I think it's a good one. Their timing however, is horrible.
They had so many weeks leading up to the reset to prepare for this, surely they've noticed some accounts last version getting way ahead of others like this. But instead they're doing what they're usually good at doing, interfering with gameplay midgame.
I'm sure they caught a lot of scripters with this move, but a lot of manual labor was put in this stuff as well. They're punishing the people that worked hard as well. You can be sceptic and say 'well blame scripters for that'. No I wont, I blame admins for their impeccable timing.
Edit:
+ I'm also wondering about the changes they're mentioning, game balance, adapting city maps and kill skill.
If they're gonna change anything about this, they better do this now. Not when fams went up or when accounts gained KS.
I stand by this decision 100%, I think it's a good one. Their timing however, is horrible.
They had so many weeks leading up to the reset to prepare for this, surely they've noticed some accounts last version getting way ahead of others like this. But instead they're doing what they're usually good at doing, interfering with gameplay midgame.
I'm sure they caught a lot of scripters with this move, but a lot of manual labor was put in this stuff as well. They're punishing the people that worked hard as well. You can be sceptic and say 'well blame scripters for that'. No I wont, I blame admins for their impeccable timing.
Edit:
+ I'm also wondering about the changes they're mentioning, game balance, adapting city maps and kill skill.
If they're gonna change anything about this, they better do this now. Not when fams went up or when accounts gained KS.
gode at 08:33:37 on 14/01:
nice move
nice move
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Well the people that were doing those bust outs all came from just a hand full of families, now we see the regular scripters on top again but they never get akilled anymore. For example Nokia with 80% on time has no busts but managed to stay in front on page 2, above a lot of bust maniacs. Pure scripting is rewarded either way.
Next to that the game is already out of balance since 4 big groups of Turkish families / alliances have already claimed and closed the only city that makes money: Detroit. Next to that their scripts didn't bust and are mlw all on the top page. So this fix has just lead to the next couple of scripters on top and the structural problem is this game: mass pacting/ mass blooding / mass alliances in combination with mass money in Detroit has become bigger than ever.
lucchese go cryyyyyyyyyyyyyy