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16-01 You reap what you sow
Author: sbanks
Last updated: 4328d 4h 23m 2s ago by Smul
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Version: 3.52
Involved families: Cannabis, Catania, Cristeria, Favians, Leone, Lucchese, Marazzino, Nazdrovia, Righelli, Rogero, Targaryens, Trafficante, Troy, Valerio, Volontario, Wargasm, Audacia, Darkness, Inizio, Prospero, Silentium, Vedici
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The ISPP alliance (Audacia, Darkness, Inizio, Prospero, Silentium, Vedici) is being attacked by a large number of families.

In the first wave of the attackers we saw 50 new deaths, with only a few backfire kills. Barafranca only let us log the last 20 names of the deaths, so we missed out 30 names! We try to get all those names updated asap. -> All should be updated now, if u see 1 i missed, leave a message. During this one statistics page update there were already nearly 10 million bullets lost.

The targets seem to be divided like this :
LuccheseDarkness
Marazzino/Troy/Targaryens + NazdroviaProspero
Favians + Trafficante/Pistoleros + Catania + Volontario + Valerio/RogeroInizio
Wargasm/CannabisVedici
Righelli + Cristeria + LeoneAudacia & Silentium
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ReBorN (Lucchese): Lets get the most important item out of the way first - Lucchese was not blooded to the ISPP alliance. We played a very small part in this war and the ONLY reason we participated is because we had logs showing that ISPP intended to shoot some of our Bloods soon, and then turn their guns on us eventually.

Of course our first choice would not have been to shoot against ISPP as we shot together a few times already this version but we will not be used as a puppet and then thrown away later when there is no more need for us.

As far as ISPP "saving our asses" this is simply not true. You can spin it however you want but the simple fact remains that Lucchese's BLOODS are the reason we are still alive. Only our Bloods prevented us from going down in the war on 11-01. As a matter of fact, the war on 10-01 had nothing to do with Lucchese. We were dragged into a war with Pentagram because of a poor choice by a blood and ISPP. We did what we had to do because a Blood was in danger so we helped to shoot Pentagram.

If ISPP feels they "saved our ass" on 11-01 then they were obviously only repaying the favor from 10-01 when we saved their asses. But ofc, we really think ISPP and Lucchese didnt owe each other anything.

/q sbanks | #beyond.info
statistics
War started on: 18:59:00 16-01-2013 War ended on: 12:01:01 17-01-2013
Bullet difference: -33,102,298 War duration: 17h 2m
Money difference: -$2,651,063,384 Players died: 321




deaths
Dead Families:
[Inizio] Family down on 09:00 17-01
[Audacia] Family down on 07:37 17-01
[Silentium] Family down on 03:05 17-01
[Vedici] Family down on 02:07 17-01
[Prospero] Family down on 01:33 17-01
[Darkness] Family down on 19:07 16-01
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Audacia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 5 | chief: 9 | brug: 22 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 383
Cannabis | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Catania | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 3 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 57
Cristeria | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Darkness | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 3 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 112
Inizio | swin: 3 | assa: 2 | lc: 3 | chief: 12 | brug: 36 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 592
Leone | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 8
Lucchese | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Marazzino | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 2 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 52
Nazdrovia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Prospero | swin: 1 | assa: 3 | lc: 5 | chief: 11 | brug: 43 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 720
Righelli | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 130
Silentium | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 3 | brug: 17 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 247
Trafficante | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 16
Troy | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 8
Vedici | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 7 | brug: 28 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 425
Volontario | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 2
Wargasm | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Total | swin: 7 | assa: 7 | lc: 19 | chief: 50 | brug: 175 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 2,843
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Anonymous (23:15:39 - 16-01)
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Bosco at 23:09:37 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 23:02:27 on 16/01:
Bosco at 22:59:18 on 16/01:
Ignoring the fact that if ISPP didn't step in in the war for lucchese is just ignorant. we all saw that lucchese was going down hard and we can't ignore the fact that ISPP stepped in. In retrospect I wish we did not step in, would have saved us a lot of bullets/money and some accounts and would have made the 13 fams that are shooting us now at least smaller and maybe this war would be prevented due to the fact that the other parties would still have to face eachother or the pact would be bulletless.
However, we chose otherwise and lets take learn from it and move on. We will be back, I don't know if it will be this version reranking on .com is **** slow, but perhaps next time families will think twice about the ISPP alliance.
As for backstabbing etcetera, choices have to be made. I ain't no top of the ISPP, but you got to chose what is best for your family as ReBorn points out. I do not agree with his top statement however as my first sentence shows, but I guess pleasing the crowd gets you a long way untill the bubble bursts :)


Well ISPP countered on the fams attacking Gravano/Memento/Messina, So abit of a void argument. Righelli, Catania and Maraz could be visibly seen shooting for Lucchese.

sure you could say that, but not stepping in of ISPP would make the damage for the fams you mention a lot bigger, could have even been their downfall. however, talking afterwards is always easier. It is unfortunate that as many have pointed out 6 fams is not even enough anymore in this game to rule you need at least 8+ and this is unfortunately the same on .nl on a smaller scale.

1 family is enough, if you don't have an attitude when you won 1 or 2 wars. Marazzino is playing this with 2 families and 4 bloods and they're doing fine.

Next to the fact that you regret you jumped for Gravano / Messina, that would've probably killed your bloods memento and Gravano (perhaps Messina), Provenzano would probably not have intervened with the counter that was going on by Maraz / Righelli / Catania because that would've cost them their heads too.

That would make you bad bloods and a fam without any bloods left.
Anonymous (23:14:03 - 16-01)
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i think that lucch with their top statment are trying to make public relations for next round and the most ammusing that i read is that they did not want to shoot at penta :D
Saros`away Netherlands (23:13:38 - 16-01)
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RIP meester ColinG xoxo
CojoW Netherlands (23:13:14 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 22:58:51 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 22:56:34 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 22:49:02 on 16/01:
I'm actually an ISPP member and I can say CoJoW and Smitzer are quite sore losers. On .nl we're all quite cocky but in ISPP they got even more cocky (some kind of untouchable thingy).

There's a lot of racist talk going on there, Turks are not really respected at all. We get attacked by a massive force (which is pretty gay) but what do our tops want us to do? Shoot our smallest attacker! (Lucchese). No wonder we did no damage, grow up top.

I died with a kill but this version wasn't very satisfying when tops go emo... I'm back to .nl, who knows I'll try it again next version! \o


maybe try to understand one thing they told u to attack Lucchese becasue Lucchese is the leading family of all :)
Speculations ;)

Facts. ;)
sbanks Guatemala (23:10:09 - 16-01)
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CojoW at 22:39:12 on 16/01:
ReBorN at 21:50:19 on 16/01:
Ill post this here as well, for anyone who didnt notice the Top Statement:

Lets get the most important item out of the way first - Lucchese was not blooded to the ISPP alliance. We played a very small part in this war and the ONLY reason we participated is because we had logs showing that ISPP intended to shoot some of our Bloods soon, and then turn their guns on us eventually.

Of course our first choice would not have been to shoot against ISPP as we shot together a few times already this version but we will not be used as a puppet and then thrown away later when there is no more need for us.

As far as ISPP "saving our asses" this is simply not true. You can spin it however you want but the simple fact remains that Lucchese's BLOODS are the reason we are still alive. Only our Bloods prevented us from going down in the war on 11-01. As a matter of fact, the war on 10-01 had nothing to do with Lucchese. We were dragged into a war with Pentagram because of a poor choice by a blood and ISPP. We did what we had to do because a Blood was in danger so we helped to shoot Pentagram.

If ISPP feels they "saved our ass" on 11-01 then they were obviously only repaying the favor from 10-01 when we saved their asses. But ofc, we really think ISPP and Lucchese didnt owe each other anything.

You really want to make sure everyone read this huh ? People here will believe you easier, but its ok, we all know what really occured.

Feel free to write your topstatement , so we all know what really occured. Just sent it via the mail function on this site :-)
Bosco Netherlands (23:09:37 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 23:02:27 on 16/01:
Bosco at 22:59:18 on 16/01:
Ignoring the fact that if ISPP didn't step in in the war for lucchese is just ignorant. we all saw that lucchese was going down hard and we can't ignore the fact that ISPP stepped in. In retrospect I wish we did not step in, would have saved us a lot of bullets/money and some accounts and would have made the 13 fams that are shooting us now at least smaller and maybe this war would be prevented due to the fact that the other parties would still have to face eachother or the pact would be bulletless.
However, we chose otherwise and lets take learn from it and move on. We will be back, I don't know if it will be this version reranking on .com is **** slow, but perhaps next time families will think twice about the ISPP alliance.
As for backstabbing etcetera, choices have to be made. I ain't no top of the ISPP, but you got to chose what is best for your family as ReBorn points out. I do not agree with his top statement however as my first sentence shows, but I guess pleasing the crowd gets you a long way untill the bubble bursts :)


Well ISPP countered on the fams attacking Gravano/Memento/Messina, So abit of a void argument. Righelli, Catania and Maraz could be visibly seen shooting for Lucchese.

sure you could say that, but not stepping in of ISPP would make the damage for the fams you mention a lot bigger, could have even been their downfall. however, talking afterwards is always easier. It is unfortunate that as many have pointed out 6 fams is not even enough anymore in this game to rule you need at least 8+ and this is unfortunately the same on .nl on a smaller scale.
Anonymous (23:02:27 - 16-01)
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Bosco at 22:59:18 on 16/01:
Ignoring the fact that if ISPP didn't step in in the war for lucchese is just ignorant. we all saw that lucchese was going down hard and we can't ignore the fact that ISPP stepped in. In retrospect I wish we did not step in, would have saved us a lot of bullets/money and some accounts and would have made the 13 fams that are shooting us now at least smaller and maybe this war would be prevented due to the fact that the other parties would still have to face eachother or the pact would be bulletless.
However, we chose otherwise and lets take learn from it and move on. We will be back, I don't know if it will be this version reranking on .com is **** slow, but perhaps next time families will think twice about the ISPP alliance.
As for backstabbing etcetera, choices have to be made. I ain't no top of the ISPP, but you got to chose what is best for your family as ReBorn points out. I do not agree with his top statement however as my first sentence shows, but I guess pleasing the crowd gets you a long way untill the bubble bursts :)


Well ISPP countered on the fams attacking Gravano/Memento/Messina, So abit of a void argument. Righelli, Catania and Maraz could be visibly seen shooting for Lucchese.
Bosco Netherlands (22:59:18 - 16-01)
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Ignoring the fact that if ISPP didn't step in in the war for lucchese is just ignorant. we all saw that lucchese was going down hard and we can't ignore the fact that ISPP stepped in. In retrospect I wish we did not step in, would have saved us a lot of bullets/money and some accounts and would have made the 13 fams that are shooting us now at least smaller and maybe this war would be prevented due to the fact that the other parties would still have to face eachother or the pact would be bulletless.
However, we chose otherwise and lets take learn from it and move on. We will be back, I don't know if it will be this version reranking on .com is **** slow, but perhaps next time families will think twice about the ISPP alliance.
As for backstabbing etcetera, choices have to be made. I ain't no top of the ISPP, but you got to chose what is best for your family as ReBorn points out. I do not agree with his top statement however as my first sentence shows, but I guess pleasing the crowd gets you a long way untill the bubble bursts :)
Anonymous (22:58:51 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 22:56:34 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 22:49:02 on 16/01:
I'm actually an ISPP member and I can say CoJoW and Smitzer are quite sore losers. On .nl we're all quite cocky but in ISPP they got even more cocky (some kind of untouchable thingy).

There's a lot of racist talk going on there, Turks are not really respected at all. We get attacked by a massive force (which is pretty gay) but what do our tops want us to do? Shoot our smallest attacker! (Lucchese). No wonder we did no damage, grow up top.

I died with a kill but this version wasn't very satisfying when tops go emo... I'm back to .nl, who knows I'll try it again next version! \o


maybe try to understand one thing they told u to attack Lucchese becasue Lucchese is the leading family of all :)
Speculations ;)
Anonymous (22:56:34 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 22:49:02 on 16/01:
I'm actually an ISPP member and I can say CoJoW and Smitzer are quite sore losers. On .nl we're all quite cocky but in ISPP they got even more cocky (some kind of untouchable thingy).

There's a lot of racist talk going on there, Turks are not really respected at all. We get attacked by a massive force (which is pretty gay) but what do our tops want us to do? Shoot our smallest attacker! (Lucchese). No wonder we did no damage, grow up top.

I died with a kill but this version wasn't very satisfying when tops go emo... I'm back to .nl, who knows I'll try it again next version! \o


maybe try to understand one thing they told u to attack Lucchese becasue Lucchese is the leading family of all :)
Anonymous (22:55:41 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 22:49:02 on 16/01:
I'm actually an ISPP member and I can say CoJoW and Smitzer are quite sore losers. On .nl we're all quite cocky but in ISPP they got even more cocky (some kind of untouchable thingy).

There's a lot of racist talk going on there, Turks are not really respected at all. We get attacked by a massive force (which is pretty gay) but what do our tops want us to do? Shoot our smallest attacker! (Lucchese). No wonder we did no damage, grow up top.

I died with a kill but this version wasn't very satisfying when tops go emo... I'm back to .nl, who knows I'll try it again next version! \o

I have to agree on the ISPP tops seeming quite haughty. However, shooting back at a single fam seems the best thing to do. And then they should indeed choose Lucchese or Marazinno to get the biggest impact on the game. Lucchese may at the moment be a bit lower in the fam list, but that's not because they're the smallest attacker. It's just because they're reranking quite well atm.
Anonymous (22:49:02 - 16-01)
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I'm actually an ISPP member and I can say CoJoW and Smitzer are quite sore losers. On .nl we're all quite cocky but in ISPP they got even more cocky (some kind of untouchable thingy).

There's a lot of racist talk going on there, Turks are not really respected at all. We get attacked by a massive force (which is pretty gay) but what do our tops want us to do? Shoot our smallest attacker! (Lucchese). No wonder we did no damage, grow up top.

I died with a kill but this version wasn't very satisfying when tops go emo... I'm back to .nl, who knows I'll try it again next version! \o

ElIndio Germany (22:47:46 - 16-01)
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ReBorN United States (22:44:00 - 16-01)
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CojoW at 22:39:12 on 16/01:
ReBorN at 21:50:19 on 16/01:
Ill post this here as well, for anyone who didnt notice the Top Statement:

Lets get the most important item out of the way first - Lucchese was not blooded to the ISPP alliance. We played a very small part in this war and the ONLY reason we participated is because we had logs showing that ISPP intended to shoot some of our Bloods soon, and then turn their guns on us eventually.

Of course our first choice would not have been to shoot against ISPP as we shot together a few times already this version but we will not be used as a puppet and then thrown away later when there is no more need for us.

As far as ISPP "saving our asses" this is simply not true. You can spin it however you want but the simple fact remains that Lucchese's BLOODS are the reason we are still alive. Only our Bloods prevented us from going down in the war on 11-01. As a matter of fact, the war on 10-01 had nothing to do with Lucchese. We were dragged into a war with Pentagram because of a poor choice by a blood and ISPP. We did what we had to do because a Blood was in danger so we helped to shoot Pentagram.

If ISPP feels they "saved our ass" on 11-01 then they were obviously only repaying the favor from 10-01 when we saved their asses. But ofc, we really think ISPP and Lucchese didnt owe each other anything.

You really want to make sure everyone read this huh ? People here will believe you easier, but its ok, we all know what really occured.

This is where the conversation is taking place, in the comments section. I addressed all the claims you made. If you feel I am telling lies, feel free to try and correct me.

And for the record, this war is just business. I play this game simply to have fun. I dont shoot people because I dont like them, I shoot them because it is whats best for Lucchese. So dont think I dont like you ISPP guys ... I love all players who make a 2nd run at the game after they died and I do hope you guys return.

RIP to both sides, it wouldnt be a game worth playing without you all! :D
ElMariachi Holy See (Vatican City State) (22:43:27 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 21:46:56 on 16/01:
Com is not for nl noobs GO AWAY

Already forgotten how we pwnd yer asses with Quirites huh ;x
Anonymous (22:41:45 - 16-01)
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bitch shooters
Anonymous (22:39:29 - 16-01)
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Connection why are you watching
CojoW Netherlands (22:39:12 - 16-01)
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ReBorN at 21:50:19 on 16/01:
Ill post this here as well, for anyone who didnt notice the Top Statement:

Lets get the most important item out of the way first - Lucchese was not blooded to the ISPP alliance. We played a very small part in this war and the ONLY reason we participated is because we had logs showing that ISPP intended to shoot some of our Bloods soon, and then turn their guns on us eventually.

Of course our first choice would not have been to shoot against ISPP as we shot together a few times already this version but we will not be used as a puppet and then thrown away later when there is no more need for us.

As far as ISPP "saving our asses" this is simply not true. You can spin it however you want but the simple fact remains that Lucchese's BLOODS are the reason we are still alive. Only our Bloods prevented us from going down in the war on 11-01. As a matter of fact, the war on 10-01 had nothing to do with Lucchese. We were dragged into a war with Pentagram because of a poor choice by a blood and ISPP. We did what we had to do because a Blood was in danger so we helped to shoot Pentagram.

If ISPP feels they "saved our ass" on 11-01 then they were obviously only repaying the favor from 10-01 when we saved their asses. But ofc, we really think ISPP and Lucchese didnt owe each other anything.

You really want to make sure everyone read this huh ? People here will believe you easier, but its ok, we all know what really occured.
Anonymous (22:26:24 - 16-01)
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BORING NOW.
test (22:24:21 - 16-01)
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Smitzer at 22:14:59 on 16/01:
It's funny Lucchese saying we didn't save their asses in 1 specific war, while they know, and everyone does, Lucchese would never had survived longer then 1 war when Ispp didn't show up @ .com.... Same for other attackers like Catania and Righelli. But hey, it's a game.. We're big enough to come back and fams like these haven't heard the last of ISPP


lmao.. you helped each other ? ^^ better for the game and version if you come back for friends and enemies better for the game ;)