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28-12 The time has come
Author: ReBorN
Last updated: 2277d 18h 56m 51s ago by ReBorN
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Version: 5.2
Involved families: Northside
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So the time has finally come, Northside has started the 1st timer of the version in Detroit. Congratulations to them!

Now, let examine a little bit of how we got here ...

After 1 major chief war, 1 "clean up" war, and 2 subsequent minor and meaningless wars the version has come to an end.

With somewhere around 400 Bruglione+ remaining alive & roughly 20 families still up the Winterhill alliance declared the game over and version won.

The last several days have seen an unprecedented amount of families bring themselves down in order to protect the precious stars and vouchers of the winning family.

28-12 - 19:22:56 Jitem
28-12 - 18:31:02 Winterhill
28-12 - 17:03:35 Penta
28-12 - 16:11:43 Summerhill
28-12 - 12:01:02 Pentahouse
27-12 - 18:34:30 Motisi
27-12 - 00:51:56 Memberhill
26-12 - 20:50:32 Whitewalkers

Whitewalkers who were as1 with Winterhill, but had their own tops, brought their own family down. Some RIP posts seem to suggest some members were not happy with this decision.

Motisi who were as1 with Pentagram, but also had their own tops, brought their family down as well. This did not sit well with some of their members who started suiciding on top accounts of Winterhill. This caused famliless Motisi Brugliones to be gunned down like gutter rats.

Prestige, who was blooded to Winterhill but not an actual member of the alliance, appears to have sold their own family to Winterhill. Prestige shot down Winterhill, took their spots, renamed their family to Northside, and has now started the timer.

It appears Winterhill had to use Prestige to start the timer because every other family associated with their alliance had too many a-kills to be considered the winner.

Congratulations to all involved I guess?

In my personal opinion, this is an absolute disgrace. Actions like this are what is killing this game. This game is losing players in droves and its because of big gangbanging alliances like this one that are causing them to leave! No one wants to play a game where something like this is possible and/or ACCEPTED by a majority of players. An absolute disgrace.

I hope the admins are watching what is unfolding here and act accordingly.

Congratulations to the winners ...

***UPDATE***

In an interesting turn of events, the controlling families decided to cancel out the timer because, wait for it ... Northside has now had 5 A-kills and will not get the star!

A family message posted by an anonymous source reads as follows:

From: Laile
Type: Family
Sent: 30-Dec @ 21:14:09
Hey all together o/

The Version will not end tomorrow cz we get 5 Akill's.
As you know tomorrow is New Year and there is Kill Protection and we can't start
the timer again. So we must wait till 02.01.2018. And we will start the Timer than again.
We request all of you to ceep your Sluggs run
And don't start a new Fam it willexlend the Version.
On Tuesday we will have a clean up and start the Timer again.

So now we wait to see how the Winter Hill pact will manipulate the system this time.

To be continued ...
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Kaw Denmark (22:36:37 - 28-12)
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ites at 21:52:05 on 28/12:
@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.

+1 for the listen to Kaw part.
Kaw Denmark (22:33:33 - 28-12)
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Saros`away at 22:12:25 on 28/12:
Kaw at 21:01:44 on 28/12:
Anonymous at 20:59:32 on 28/12:
Kaw at 20:57:44 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:49:33 on 28/12:
ReBorN at 20:40:32 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:37:26 on 28/12:
In my personal opinion, this is an absolute disgrace.
And you played no part in their win? Maybe it's new and stuff since you've not been around for a while, but EVERY Winterhill/Anarchy (yes dark it's not the same but the versions unfold itself the same way so I'll name them in 1 sentence) goes like this. They have loads of members, everyone wants to blood them in the hopes to survive and then the side turns out to be huge.
Ceasefiring with their side isn't helping anyone but them in the end, because you'll only lose likeminded people where they'll only gain them.

Everyone is culpable in this. I never claimed to be innocent. Could I have blooded into the pact? Sure I could have. Could I have shot more into the pact? Sure. But I will not take responsibility for the overall outcome. That rests on the shoulders of the members who decided that this is ok.
Everyone? We've been addressing this problem for years now and every fucking version people fall for the same fucking trick to an extent where we honestly don't even care to play anymore.

Numerous families here have been feeding this group over and over because they thought they'd make super duper smart 300 IQ plays with it, only to get fucked in the end. Their biggest haters nowadays were their biggest supporters back then or vice versa. Everyone knows them, everyone knows their tricks, people just prioritize HoF greed and opportunism over getting rid of them.

If you honestly wanted to get rid of them you'd have been campaigning against them since the very start of the version and you wouldn't back out after a minor setback. Hell, we've been fighting this side when we had nothing but 3 families against them while basically everyone that wasn't countering on us for them (around 14 families) was just sitting back and watch it happen just because they thought they were super smart for doing so. This has been repeating itself for years and if nobody wants to actually do something about it because they're scared they get rekt in the process, only to get rekt in the end, honestly, why bother playing versions when they play?
Tbf Crit they did join us during the first war albeit they were never prepared enough to make a difference at the time. Other families such as Motisi & Hidden should have stepped up instead for it to make an impact.

well hidden had Critycrys suicide ponys on them
True True but only after the war had started and they had decided not to take part in it ;-). So the sentiment stays the same.

Hello,

I don't recall ever agreeing or disagreeing to shoot in the first war. We simply decided to stay off and defend when it became apparent hours before that Siberia was going to use their resources to suicide on us, you know, badly. But I imagine it must be hard to take some form of responsibility for the outcome of this version.

If you are going to spread misinformation might aswell do it right, Kawaii.
Hi Saros.

If you look closer to what I wrote I never said you agreed or disagreed to shoot, so you recall corectly. I only wrote that Motisi did agree in another post.. :-) I only said you guys would have had to step up for it to make a difference, which you chose not to for the reasons stated.
Anonymous (22:23:57 - 28-12)
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Saros`away at 22:12:25 on 28/12:
Kaw at 21:01:44 on 28/12:
Anonymous at 20:59:32 on 28/12:
Kaw at 20:57:44 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:49:33 on 28/12:
ReBorN at 20:40:32 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:37:26 on 28/12:
In my personal opinion, this is an absolute disgrace.
And you played no part in their win? Maybe it's new and stuff since you've not been around for a while, but EVERY Winterhill/Anarchy (yes dark it's not the same but the versions unfold itself the same way so I'll name them in 1 sentence) goes like this. They have loads of members, everyone wants to blood them in the hopes to survive and then the side turns out to be huge.
Ceasefiring with their side isn't helping anyone but them in the end, because you'll only lose likeminded people where they'll only gain them.

Everyone is culpable in this. I never claimed to be innocent. Could I have blooded into the pact? Sure I could have. Could I have shot more into the pact? Sure. But I will not take responsibility for the overall outcome. That rests on the shoulders of the members who decided that this is ok.
Everyone? We've been addressing this problem for years now and every fucking version people fall for the same fucking trick to an extent where we honestly don't even care to play anymore.

Numerous families here have been feeding this group over and over because they thought they'd make super duper smart 300 IQ plays with it, only to get fucked in the end. Their biggest haters nowadays were their biggest supporters back then or vice versa. Everyone knows them, everyone knows their tricks, people just prioritize HoF greed and opportunism over getting rid of them.

If you honestly wanted to get rid of them you'd have been campaigning against them since the very start of the version and you wouldn't back out after a minor setback. Hell, we've been fighting this side when we had nothing but 3 families against them while basically everyone that wasn't countering on us for them (around 14 families) was just sitting back and watch it happen just because they thought they were super smart for doing so. This has been repeating itself for years and if nobody wants to actually do something about it because they're scared they get rekt in the process, only to get rekt in the end, honestly, why bother playing versions when they play?
Tbf Crit they did join us during the first war albeit they were never prepared enough to make a difference at the time. Other families such as Motisi & Hidden should have stepped up instead for it to make an impact.

well hidden had Critycrys suicide ponys on them
True True but only after the war had started and they had decided not to take part in it ;-). So the sentiment stays the same.

Hello,

I don't recall ever agreeing or disagreeing to shoot in the first war. We simply decided to stay off and defend when it became apparent hours before that Siberia was going to use their resources to suicide on us, you know, badly. But I imagine it must be hard to take some form of responsibility for the outcome of this version.

If you are going to spread misinformation might aswell do it right, Kawaii.
Shut up Saros.
cove Romania (22:19:38 - 28-12)
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ElMariachi at 22:03:50 on 28/12:
ites at 21:52:05 on 28/12:
@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.


Nah better join Krays; at Colossal you have a chance to become don, at Krays just shoot and you are don ...


Aloe vera?
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (22:13:37 - 28-12)
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ites at 21:52:05 on 28/12:
@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.


Krays is a known cheaterfam this version, just take a look at the hall of shame, unlike Colossal. I don't understand why someone would join a fam that not only let cheaters into their ranks, but also whine about pacts and then join the largest megapact seen to mankind in the recent versions.

Lets face it boesmans, you were nothing but darks little bitch the entire version.
Saros`away Netherlands (22:12:25 - 28-12)
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Kaw at 21:01:44 on 28/12:
Anonymous at 20:59:32 on 28/12:
Kaw at 20:57:44 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:49:33 on 28/12:
ReBorN at 20:40:32 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:37:26 on 28/12:
In my personal opinion, this is an absolute disgrace.
And you played no part in their win? Maybe it's new and stuff since you've not been around for a while, but EVERY Winterhill/Anarchy (yes dark it's not the same but the versions unfold itself the same way so I'll name them in 1 sentence) goes like this. They have loads of members, everyone wants to blood them in the hopes to survive and then the side turns out to be huge.
Ceasefiring with their side isn't helping anyone but them in the end, because you'll only lose likeminded people where they'll only gain them.

Everyone is culpable in this. I never claimed to be innocent. Could I have blooded into the pact? Sure I could have. Could I have shot more into the pact? Sure. But I will not take responsibility for the overall outcome. That rests on the shoulders of the members who decided that this is ok.
Everyone? We've been addressing this problem for years now and every fucking version people fall for the same fucking trick to an extent where we honestly don't even care to play anymore.

Numerous families here have been feeding this group over and over because they thought they'd make super duper smart 300 IQ plays with it, only to get fucked in the end. Their biggest haters nowadays were their biggest supporters back then or vice versa. Everyone knows them, everyone knows their tricks, people just prioritize HoF greed and opportunism over getting rid of them.

If you honestly wanted to get rid of them you'd have been campaigning against them since the very start of the version and you wouldn't back out after a minor setback. Hell, we've been fighting this side when we had nothing but 3 families against them while basically everyone that wasn't countering on us for them (around 14 families) was just sitting back and watch it happen just because they thought they were super smart for doing so. This has been repeating itself for years and if nobody wants to actually do something about it because they're scared they get rekt in the process, only to get rekt in the end, honestly, why bother playing versions when they play?
Tbf Crit they did join us during the first war albeit they were never prepared enough to make a difference at the time. Other families such as Motisi & Hidden should have stepped up instead for it to make an impact.

well hidden had Critycrys suicide ponys on them
True True but only after the war had started and they had decided not to take part in it ;-). So the sentiment stays the same.

Hello,

I don't recall ever agreeing or disagreeing to shoot in the first war. We simply decided to stay off and defend when it became apparent hours before that Siberia was going to use their resources to suicide on us, you know, badly. But I imagine it must be hard to take some form of responsibility for the outcome of this version.

If you are going to spread misinformation might aswell do it right, Kawaii.
ReBorN United States (22:10:45 - 28-12)
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ites at 21:52:05 on 28/12:
@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.


We did not blood into the pact to survive. If you need an explanation as to why we did what we did at the end then go talk to your buddies over at Hidden, Im sure theyll be more than happy to explain it to you.

As far as my reporting, I am as much a reporter as I am a RL gangster. I report on this game the best I can. That being said, this is the most objectivity this report deserves because actions like this are destroying this game! Honestly, does anyone believe this is an acceptable way to win a version? If so, then its time to leave - you are whats wrong with this game. And I feel a responsibility to point that out.
Anonymous (22:04:51 - 28-12)
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ElMariachi at 22:03:50 on 28/12:
ites at 21:52:05 on 28/12:
@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.


Nah better join Krays; at Colossal you have a chance to become don, at Krays just shoot and you are don ...
hahahahahhahaha
ElMariachi Holy See (Vatican City State) (22:03:50 - 28-12)
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ites at 21:52:05 on 28/12:
@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.


Nah better join Krays; at Colossal you have a chance to become don, at Krays just shoot and you are don ...
Anonymous (21:58:16 - 28-12)
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ites at 21:52:05 on 28/12:
@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.

Indeed, lets hope their members will get smarter and join one of the few decent fams still out there :) with some more balls and game sense
Anonymous (21:58:06 - 28-12)
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ites at 21:52:05 on 28/12:
@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.


Krays had more akills than Colossal this version. Krays also got hijacked after swallowing gallons of turkish semen and accomplished diddly squat. Colossal mounted the only viable challenge to the massive pact of massive cheaters this version, and you're still obsessed with them. You're a sad little man.
ites Belgium (21:52:05 - 28-12)
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@ reborn : you blooded into the pact at the end to survive.
no matter how lame this version turned out to be, i feel your post is inappropriate. your *job* is to report, not write biased articles like this (imo)

and let's all listen to kaw: stop joining lame families like krays. do join colossal instead, you might be the next don after bruce gets his family akiled again.

Anonymous (21:41:02 - 28-12)
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ReBorN at 21:04:50 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:49:33 on 28/12:
ReBorN at 20:40:32 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:37:26 on 28/12:
In my personal opinion, this is an absolute disgrace.
And you played no part in their win? Maybe it's new and stuff since you've not been around for a while, but EVERY Winterhill/Anarchy (yes dark it's not the same but the versions unfold itself the same way so I'll name them in 1 sentence) goes like this. They have loads of members, everyone wants to blood them in the hopes to survive and then the side turns out to be huge.
Ceasefiring with their side isn't helping anyone but them in the end, because you'll only lose likeminded people where they'll only gain them.

Everyone is culpable in this. I never claimed to be innocent. Could I have blooded into the pact? Sure I could have. Could I have shot more into the pact? Sure. But I will not take responsibility for the overall outcome. That rests on the shoulders of the members who decided that this is ok.
Everyone? We've been addressing this problem for years now and every fucking version people fall for the same fucking trick to an extent where we honestly don't even care to play anymore.

Numerous families here have been feeding this group over and over because they thought they'd make super duper smart 300 IQ plays with it, only to get fucked in the end. Their biggest haters nowadays were their biggest supporters back then or vice versa. Everyone knows them, everyone knows their tricks, people just prioritize HoF greed and opportunism over getting rid of them.

If you honestly wanted to get rid of them you'd have been campaigning against them since the very start of the version and you wouldn't back out after a minor setback. Hell, we've been fighting this side when we had nothing but 3 families against them while basically everyone that wasn't countering on us for them (around 14 families) was just sitting back and watch it happen just because they thought they were super smart for doing so. This has been repeating itself for years and if nobody wants to actually do something about it because they're scared they get rekt in the process, only to get rekt in the end, honestly, why bother playing versions when they play?

Im not really sure why youre yelling at me. We joined in the first war. I was upfront with what our small family could handle and we took out the targets that were given to us. Sure, I had about 3 or so members that could have killed 4 or 5 more Chiefs, but what was that going to do? We licked our wounds and tried our best to get something else going.
he s yelling at you because he had no balls for come/face with mighty winterhill!!
Anonymous (21:31:31 - 28-12)
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It is an absolute disgrace!
It does kill the game.
They should not be rewarded with stars on their profiles, but with hall of shame icons if will fit them nice and well. :) (My personal opinion)
nobody (21:25:14 - 28-12)
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''In my personal opinion''..

you should not put your own opinion in a journalist post. but make some blog about it separately. atleast you mean well and got the overall game status in heart/mind.
Anonymous (21:23:22 - 28-12)
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Kaw at 20:55:27 on 28/12:
Let's hope all those members who joined families like Krays, Motisi, Pentagram, thinking they actually were going to play an honorable version will regret joining them and instead aim to play a more fun version next time around instead of this bs. But as history keep repeating itself it doesn't seem to be likely.

Dunno about the other families but at least Motisi lost members this round. Most people from Merciless and Marazzino will not play in Motisi again. There were also a few new Omerta players who, if they even play again after seeing this shit, will look for another family.

There were also others who I dont know where they came from, perhaps they have always been Motisi, that were very dissapointed with the top this round.

Amproof at 20:41:48 on 28/12:
Bloody hell.....

I think I'm out though. I played my first version back since Feb 2015, I enjoyed the nostalgia, but since all the ppl who don't want to pact don't work together to stop pacts, but end up getting in petty arguments, things will stay the same.

They tried, well some at least. But not really much you can do when you play against 60%+ of the high ranks.

Winter have their dogs in, among others, Horde (Prestige) and Pentagram, who always come barking when called upon. These fams never try to play for themselves. But that families like Motisi and also Krays would bend over and take turk di*k was unexpected. At least for me.
Mickgee aka mcgee (21:16:58 - 28-12)
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I’m leaving my haunted omerta house to do what I want to do!
Ill create a blind family, Im not hijacking from my ghost villa again.
All my little gremlins, grandma gremlin mcgee wants you to be very devious, more proud of one banner, and multiply into many families, multiply the gangland wars, lets see who goes on killstreaks xD
Your old friendslist will understand why you shot them, lets love all gremlins regardless...
I love getting older xD!!!


ReBorN United States (21:16:08 - 28-12)
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Critycal at 21:09:27 on 28/12:
ReBorN at 21:04:50 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:49:33 on 28/12:
ReBorN at 20:40:32 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:37:26 on 28/12:
In my personal opinion, this is an absolute disgrace.
And you played no part in their win? Maybe it's new and stuff since you've not been around for a while, but EVERY Winterhill/Anarchy (yes dark it's not the same but the versions unfold itself the same way so I'll name them in 1 sentence) goes like this. They have loads of members, everyone wants to blood them in the hopes to survive and then the side turns out to be huge.
Ceasefiring with their side isn't helping anyone but them in the end, because you'll only lose likeminded people where they'll only gain them.

Everyone is culpable in this. I never claimed to be innocent. Could I have blooded into the pact? Sure I could have. Could I have shot more into the pact? Sure. But I will not take responsibility for the overall outcome. That rests on the shoulders of the members who decided that this is ok.
Everyone? We've been addressing this problem for years now and every fucking version people fall for the same fucking trick to an extent where we honestly don't even care to play anymore.

Numerous families here have been feeding this group over and over because they thought they'd make super duper smart 300 IQ plays with it, only to get fucked in the end. Their biggest haters nowadays were their biggest supporters back then or vice versa. Everyone knows them, everyone knows their tricks, people just prioritize HoF greed and opportunism over getting rid of them.

If you honestly wanted to get rid of them you'd have been campaigning against them since the very start of the version and you wouldn't back out after a minor setback. Hell, we've been fighting this side when we had nothing but 3 families against them while basically everyone that wasn't countering on us for them (around 14 families) was just sitting back and watch it happen just because they thought they were super smart for doing so. This has been repeating itself for years and if nobody wants to actually do something about it because they're scared they get rekt in the process, only to get rekt in the end, honestly, why bother playing versions when they play?

Im not really sure why youre yelling at me. We joined in the first war. I was upfront with what our small family could handle and we took out the targets that were given to us. Sure, I had about 3 or so members that could have killed 4 or 5 more Chiefs, but what was that going to do? We licked our wounds and tried our best to get something else going.
I'm not yelling at you, I'm just surprised this nowadays is worth a topic while it hasn't been the last 2-3 years where they've been repeating this trick, sometimes on an even bigger scale in an even shorter timespan than this.
You're right for pointing out this is a problem, but come on, do you think people really care at all? It's clear people will merge into them, blood them or as1 them whenever they have the opportunity to stay safe for a while and it won't ever change, despite all the stabs, despite all the sells, the same thing keeps going on and will keep going on simply because they'll merge and recruit themselves to 400 members again next time they're playing and everyone will fall for their shit again just because they have the biggest dick.

We just decided to give up playing in versions they reside in because it's not worth the time or money to play just to end up fighting them alone on chief and see everything vanish not because of skill or strategy, but because of numbers of the lack of interest of other fams that are just glad they're shooting you instead of them for the time being.

I totally understand the frustration. This is my first time experiencing the size of their vagina first-hand since Ive been retired for a while.

I made the topic because the timer was started and the version is ending - its a news worthy event in this spectacularly lackluster version. I just wanted to make sure it was documented in the article how it was we got to this point.
tk3 (21:11:51 - 28-12)
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fucking this versi
Critycal Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Patron (21:09:27 - 28-12)
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ReBorN at 21:04:50 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:49:33 on 28/12:
ReBorN at 20:40:32 on 28/12:
Critycal at 20:37:26 on 28/12:
In my personal opinion, this is an absolute disgrace.
And you played no part in their win? Maybe it's new and stuff since you've not been around for a while, but EVERY Winterhill/Anarchy (yes dark it's not the same but the versions unfold itself the same way so I'll name them in 1 sentence) goes like this. They have loads of members, everyone wants to blood them in the hopes to survive and then the side turns out to be huge.
Ceasefiring with their side isn't helping anyone but them in the end, because you'll only lose likeminded people where they'll only gain them.

Everyone is culpable in this. I never claimed to be innocent. Could I have blooded into the pact? Sure I could have. Could I have shot more into the pact? Sure. But I will not take responsibility for the overall outcome. That rests on the shoulders of the members who decided that this is ok.
Everyone? We've been addressing this problem for years now and every fucking version people fall for the same fucking trick to an extent where we honestly don't even care to play anymore.

Numerous families here have been feeding this group over and over because they thought they'd make super duper smart 300 IQ plays with it, only to get fucked in the end. Their biggest haters nowadays were their biggest supporters back then or vice versa. Everyone knows them, everyone knows their tricks, people just prioritize HoF greed and opportunism over getting rid of them.

If you honestly wanted to get rid of them you'd have been campaigning against them since the very start of the version and you wouldn't back out after a minor setback. Hell, we've been fighting this side when we had nothing but 3 families against them while basically everyone that wasn't countering on us for them (around 14 families) was just sitting back and watch it happen just because they thought they were super smart for doing so. This has been repeating itself for years and if nobody wants to actually do something about it because they're scared they get rekt in the process, only to get rekt in the end, honestly, why bother playing versions when they play?

Im not really sure why youre yelling at me. We joined in the first war. I was upfront with what our small family could handle and we took out the targets that were given to us. Sure, I had about 3 or so members that could have killed 4 or 5 more Chiefs, but what was that going to do? We licked our wounds and tried our best to get something else going.
I'm not yelling at you, I'm just surprised this nowadays is worth a topic while it hasn't been the last 2-3 years where they've been repeating this trick, sometimes on an even bigger scale in an even shorter timespan than this.
You're right for pointing out this is a problem, but come on, do you think people really care at all? It's clear people will merge into them, blood them or as1 them whenever they have the opportunity to stay safe for a while and it won't ever change, despite all the stabs, despite all the sells, the same thing keeps going on and will keep going on simply because they'll merge and recruit themselves to 400 members again next time they're playing and everyone will fall for their shit again just because they have the biggest dick.

We just decided to give up playing in versions they reside in, and I can only recommend everyone to do so, because it's not worth the time nor the money to play just to end up fighting them alone on chief and see everything vanish not because of skill or strategy, but because of numbers or the lack of interest of other fams that are just glad they're shooting you instead of them for the time being.