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After some quiet days and plenty of talks amongst the families on how to already close down this current version, we see some bloodships shattered and some families cleaned off. Many predicted certain blood ties to get stabbed, but few expected them to happen this soon!
Imperium answered the call as Colosseum wanted to throw their Tommies in the mix against Fortress.
At exactly the same time a number of other families engaged in all-out shooting. Winterhill, Northside, Calypso and Godhand have decided to attack the big alliance consisting of Merciless, Merci and Monstas.
Motisi comes to the aid and starts a counter for Merciless on Winterhill/Northside.
It seems the bloods of Winterhill were well informed as they were on standby duty for any counters. Vastatio and The gods lay siege on Motisi.
Now Shield decides to take a shot at Motisi as well.
Imperium answered the call as Colosseum wanted to throw their Tommies in the mix against Fortress.
At exactly the same time a number of other families engaged in all-out shooting. Winterhill, Northside, Calypso and Godhand have decided to attack the big alliance consisting of Merciless, Merci and Monstas.
Motisi comes to the aid and starts a counter for Merciless on Winterhill/Northside.
It seems the bloods of Winterhill were well informed as they were on standby duty for any counters. Vastatio and The gods lay siege on Motisi.
Now Shield decides to take a shot at Motisi as well.
statements
lavigne (Winterhill):
[00:34:41] (Tony-e|gone) he did things what caust us almost intern war
[00:34:49] (lavi\zZz) i personally denied merciless' blood offer just because i didnt believe them
[00:34:53] (lavi\zZz) this time im gonna be neutral
[00:34:57] (lavi\zZz) and follow the majority
[00:34:58] (lavi\zZz) but
[00:35:00] (Tony-e|gone) if you want to keep it up on last version, this wont work
[00:35:02] (lavi\zZz) if i feel any sneaky move
[00:35:09] (lavi\zZz) With "my part"
[00:35:15] (lavi\zZz) you gonna be my first target
[00:35:17] (lavi\zZz) just to be clear
[00:35:20] (Tony-e|gone) lol
[00:35:20] (lavi\zZz) apart from the family
[00:35:24] (Tony-e|gone) you are treating me?
[00:35:43] * Tony-e|gone has left #****
First of all, sorry for the logs. I really wouldnt wanna paste them.
But This is what we had with merciless in blood talks, i didnt threat him tho. I just made it clear back then.
We even solved it out talking later. He is a good person but as ingame , i dont know, not trustable i guess.
When we were getting shot by maraz/siyah, violenza was the only one shooting for us and helping us. So they killed our blood wich is helping us instead of helping us. This is not acceptable. and after all they asked around to shoot us and waited for us not to step first? Even some of ppl here know that they were gonna shoot us 23 OT last night if we didnt shoot
Rip all Winterhill and Merciless soldiers.
p.s: It was a bad coincidence for us to make a war in a night when a military coup attempt happened in Turkey. It was really hard for all ppl to focus on war.
Rip everybody.
Tony-E (Merciless:
We as Merciless top feel the need to give a statement about this version. At our first blood conversation as you see with Lavi, who did just came in the channel and start talking hostile in our first conversation, i wont accept any treathment so i left the channel. However we solved it later. We started the version And blooded Winterhill. There was no such thing as we were forced out of Detroit, we had an agreement about Detroit. Winterhill was gonna up in Detroit And we were gonna take Chicago. In return for that Winterhill was gonna share profit of poker spot with us. We Wanted to be loyal partners so we trusted them. Then due to misscomunication internal Merciless upped in Detroit. (We talked internal about upping in Detroit BEFORE this version started). To keep our word because it was a internal mistake, we made a solution of switching the fams. Nobody can ever force Merciless to do something. Everyone was waiting for the war of Winterhill+ vs Sib+. We were bloods with Winterhill so we counterd for them on Siberia. We had info that Violenza wanted to get rid of us, We wont wait untill they shoot so we made action. A non blood that was planning on us and Wanted us dead. We were waiting patiently for a chance to give them back the bullets they shot at our don. Since we had a deal with Winterhill and not Violenza, shooting at us is declaring war. At that time Winterhill was under fire of Maraz+. If Winterhill didnt have enough bloods who were countering for them (6fams) we wouldnt shoot Violenza in that chaos. Believe it or not this was not an action against Winterhill. After the Violenza war we received solid intell about Winterhill planning to shoot us and Imperium. We confronted them but ofc they denied it. We did what we had to do and started to plan a war against them. However it aint easy planning at a fam with so many bloods, the only possible way was to shoot at nighttime when the bloods are probably sleeping and dieing the next day wouldnt matter. unfortunately not all my bloods were able to do a night war. So we needed to take a gamble and staying off all so they move on their plan to the next day, and we could shoot at 1:00 OT and otherways we wouldnt have a chance at a normal time. The rest is known. Winterhill+ started first. We as Merciless will never stab a trustworthy blood. But someone who is planning against us will receive no Merci. So to all the OB warriors And butthurt people who think they know all. We wont forget And surely wont forgive.
P.s We dont like actions such as hijack but its part of the game. This was a reaction of stabbing a blood.
Rip to all our soldiers, and those of Winterhill.
[00:34:41] (Tony-e|gone) he did things what caust us almost intern war
[00:34:49] (lavi\zZz) i personally denied merciless' blood offer just because i didnt believe them
[00:34:53] (lavi\zZz) this time im gonna be neutral
[00:34:57] (lavi\zZz) and follow the majority
[00:34:58] (lavi\zZz) but
[00:35:00] (Tony-e|gone) if you want to keep it up on last version, this wont work
[00:35:02] (lavi\zZz) if i feel any sneaky move
[00:35:09] (lavi\zZz) With "my part"
[00:35:15] (lavi\zZz) you gonna be my first target
[00:35:17] (lavi\zZz) just to be clear
[00:35:20] (Tony-e|gone) lol
[00:35:20] (lavi\zZz) apart from the family
[00:35:24] (Tony-e|gone) you are treating me?
[00:35:43] * Tony-e|gone has left #****
First of all, sorry for the logs. I really wouldnt wanna paste them.
But This is what we had with merciless in blood talks, i didnt threat him tho. I just made it clear back then.
We even solved it out talking later. He is a good person but as ingame , i dont know, not trustable i guess.
When we were getting shot by maraz/siyah, violenza was the only one shooting for us and helping us. So they killed our blood wich is helping us instead of helping us. This is not acceptable. and after all they asked around to shoot us and waited for us not to step first? Even some of ppl here know that they were gonna shoot us 23 OT last night if we didnt shoot
Rip all Winterhill and Merciless soldiers.
p.s: It was a bad coincidence for us to make a war in a night when a military coup attempt happened in Turkey. It was really hard for all ppl to focus on war.
Rip everybody.
Tony-E (Merciless:
We as Merciless top feel the need to give a statement about this version. At our first blood conversation as you see with Lavi, who did just came in the channel and start talking hostile in our first conversation, i wont accept any treathment so i left the channel. However we solved it later. We started the version And blooded Winterhill. There was no such thing as we were forced out of Detroit, we had an agreement about Detroit. Winterhill was gonna up in Detroit And we were gonna take Chicago. In return for that Winterhill was gonna share profit of poker spot with us. We Wanted to be loyal partners so we trusted them. Then due to misscomunication internal Merciless upped in Detroit. (We talked internal about upping in Detroit BEFORE this version started). To keep our word because it was a internal mistake, we made a solution of switching the fams. Nobody can ever force Merciless to do something. Everyone was waiting for the war of Winterhill+ vs Sib+. We were bloods with Winterhill so we counterd for them on Siberia. We had info that Violenza wanted to get rid of us, We wont wait untill they shoot so we made action. A non blood that was planning on us and Wanted us dead. We were waiting patiently for a chance to give them back the bullets they shot at our don. Since we had a deal with Winterhill and not Violenza, shooting at us is declaring war. At that time Winterhill was under fire of Maraz+. If Winterhill didnt have enough bloods who were countering for them (6fams) we wouldnt shoot Violenza in that chaos. Believe it or not this was not an action against Winterhill. After the Violenza war we received solid intell about Winterhill planning to shoot us and Imperium. We confronted them but ofc they denied it. We did what we had to do and started to plan a war against them. However it aint easy planning at a fam with so many bloods, the only possible way was to shoot at nighttime when the bloods are probably sleeping and dieing the next day wouldnt matter. unfortunately not all my bloods were able to do a night war. So we needed to take a gamble and staying off all so they move on their plan to the next day, and we could shoot at 1:00 OT and otherways we wouldnt have a chance at a normal time. The rest is known. Winterhill+ started first. We as Merciless will never stab a trustworthy blood. But someone who is planning against us will receive no Merci. So to all the OB warriors And butthurt people who think they know all. We wont forget And surely wont forgive.
P.s We dont like actions such as hijack but its part of the game. This was a reaction of stabbing a blood.
Rip to all our soldiers, and those of Winterhill.
statistics
War started on: 19:45:04 15-07-2016 | War ended on: 19:45:04 16-07-2016 |
Bullet difference: -36,592,675 | War duration: 1d 0h 0m |
Money difference: -$2,270,236,340 | Players died: 241 |
deaths
Dead Families:
Deaths per family:
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You're really a hypocrit big joke.
Last version is last version, no need to talk about that.
Should i really drop your leak top log talking about when their are gonna shoot Merciless?:(
Merciless only plannend against Winterhill because of your leak top.
And kind of ironic how you guys are trying blamming it on us, we'll shows no mercy if you guys stab.
So yes, you can expect a hijack then.
Last version is last version, no need to talk about that.
Should i really drop your leak top log talking about when their are gonna shoot Merciless?:(
Merciless only plannend against Winterhill because of your leak top.
And kind of ironic how you guys are trying blamming it on us, we'll shows no mercy if you guys stab.
So yes, you can expect a hijack then.
Vato (07:56:52 - 18-07)
You can blame/flame/cry at Merciless all u want, we dont care.
Fuck with us, we come after u.
This version or another version, it doesnt matter.
Now cry some more x
Fuck with us, we come after u.
This version or another version, it doesnt matter.
Now cry some more x
Anonymous (00:13:43 - 18-07)
Tony full of shit!! 1st merci planned against winterhill but they didnt arrange enough power. 2nd last version shot a blood when they were about to make war. And last PS: i dont like hijacks, what a fucking Joke you are... Tony paid real money so eXperience northside. Grow some balls jid
ElMariachi` at 11:58:24 on 17/07:
.nl never made it this far, things like as ones never existed on .nl it got more evolved to a bunch of oldscool competent players from different fams ending up in a big ass fuse fam and winning the version because the rest of the fams clearly had no clue how to win ...
Solstice at 07:17:07 on 17/07:
This bullshit had nothing to do with playing the game oldschool styles. On .nl maybe, .com was never this shite up untill a couple of years ago.
ElMariachi` at 23:07:28 on 16/07:
lol your comment makes no sense at all, why would you shoot your own blood if you're cheap rushing for the win ? and licking everyone on the other side? yeah cause shooting violenza clearly showed that ... in fact it's quite the opposite style of playing you guys seem to have gotten used to on .com; after all this is supposed to be a game of gangsters and mobsters, not some sheep herding simulator.
Anonymous at 19:38:49 on 16/07:
Last vers merci has 8 crossblooded bloods and secret bloods with siber... That's not bringing fun, thats cheap rushing for the win and it didn't work out for them... This vers they try the same and lick everyone on the other side, and now they get wat they deserve!
ElMariachi` at 18:02:27 on 16/07:
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
Anonymous at 17:16:37 on 16/07:
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
Anonymous at 15:55:37 on 16/07:
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
lol your comment makes no sense at all, why would you shoot your own blood if you're cheap rushing for the win ? and licking everyone on the other side? yeah cause shooting violenza clearly showed that ... in fact it's quite the opposite style of playing you guys seem to have gotten used to on .com; after all this is supposed to be a game of gangsters and mobsters, not some sheep herding simulator.
This bullshit had nothing to do with playing the game oldschool styles. On .nl maybe, .com was never this shite up untill a couple of years ago.
.nl never made it this far, things like as ones never existed on .nl it got more evolved to a bunch of oldscool competent players from different fams ending up in a big ass fuse fam and winning the version because the rest of the fams clearly had no clue how to win ...
" it got more evolved to a bunch of oldscool competent players from different fams ending up in a big ass fuse fam ''
True and you were one of those oldskool tops who started that problem on .nl as one of the founders from Seccante.
ElMariachi` (11:58:24 - 17-07)
Solstice at 07:17:07 on 17/07:
This bullshit had nothing to do with playing the game oldschool styles. On .nl maybe, .com was never this shite up untill a couple of years ago.
ElMariachi` at 23:07:28 on 16/07:
lol your comment makes no sense at all, why would you shoot your own blood if you're cheap rushing for the win ? and licking everyone on the other side? yeah cause shooting violenza clearly showed that ... in fact it's quite the opposite style of playing you guys seem to have gotten used to on .com; after all this is supposed to be a game of gangsters and mobsters, not some sheep herding simulator.
Anonymous at 19:38:49 on 16/07:
Last vers merci has 8 crossblooded bloods and secret bloods with siber... That's not bringing fun, thats cheap rushing for the win and it didn't work out for them... This vers they try the same and lick everyone on the other side, and now they get wat they deserve!
ElMariachi` at 18:02:27 on 16/07:
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
Anonymous at 17:16:37 on 16/07:
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
Anonymous at 15:55:37 on 16/07:
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
lol your comment makes no sense at all, why would you shoot your own blood if you're cheap rushing for the win ? and licking everyone on the other side? yeah cause shooting violenza clearly showed that ... in fact it's quite the opposite style of playing you guys seem to have gotten used to on .com; after all this is supposed to be a game of gangsters and mobsters, not some sheep herding simulator.
This bullshit had nothing to do with playing the game oldschool styles. On .nl maybe, .com was never this shite up untill a couple of years ago.
.nl never made it this far, things like as ones never existed on .nl it got more evolved to a bunch of oldscool competent players from different fams ending up in a big ass fuse fam and winning the version because the rest of the fams clearly had no clue how to win ...
Anonymous (11:45:36 - 17-07)
Anonymous at 09:42:03 on 17/07:
Did you even read the article? :')
Merciless got stabbed, and you're talking about trusting him.
I guess he made you his bitch, that's why you are complaining here at OB about him, cry a litlle more pls.
Did you even read the article? :')
Merciless got stabbed, and you're talking about trusting him.
I guess he made you his bitch, that's why you are complaining here at OB about him, cry a litlle more pls.
tony-e go retire :w
Anonymous (09:42:03 - 17-07)
Did you even read the article? :')
Merciless got stabbed, and you're talking about trusting him.
I guess he made you his bitch, that's why you are complaining here at OB about him, cry a litlle more pls.
Merciless got stabbed, and you're talking about trusting him.
I guess he made you his bitch, that's why you are complaining here at OB about him, cry a litlle more pls.
Solstice (07:17:07 - 17-07)
ElMariachi` at 23:07:28 on 16/07:
lol your comment makes no sense at all, why would you shoot your own blood if you're cheap rushing for the win ? and licking everyone on the other side? yeah cause shooting violenza clearly showed that ... in fact it's quite the opposite style of playing you guys seem to have gotten used to on .com; after all this is supposed to be a game of gangsters and mobsters, not some sheep herding simulator.
Anonymous at 19:38:49 on 16/07:
Last vers merci has 8 crossblooded bloods and secret bloods with siber... That's not bringing fun, thats cheap rushing for the win and it didn't work out for them... This vers they try the same and lick everyone on the other side, and now they get wat they deserve!
ElMariachi` at 18:02:27 on 16/07:
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
Anonymous at 17:16:37 on 16/07:
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
Anonymous at 15:55:37 on 16/07:
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
lol your comment makes no sense at all, why would you shoot your own blood if you're cheap rushing for the win ? and licking everyone on the other side? yeah cause shooting violenza clearly showed that ... in fact it's quite the opposite style of playing you guys seem to have gotten used to on .com; after all this is supposed to be a game of gangsters and mobsters, not some sheep herding simulator.
This bullshit had nothing to do with playing the game oldschool styles. On .nl maybe, .com was never this shite up untill a couple of years ago.
ElMariachi` (23:07:28 - 16-07)
Anonymous at 19:38:49 on 16/07:
Last vers merci has 8 crossblooded bloods and secret bloods with siber... That's not bringing fun, thats cheap rushing for the win and it didn't work out for them... This vers they try the same and lick everyone on the other side, and now they get wat they deserve!
ElMariachi` at 18:02:27 on 16/07:
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
Anonymous at 17:16:37 on 16/07:
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
Anonymous at 15:55:37 on 16/07:
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
lol your comment makes no sense at all, why would you shoot your own blood if you're cheap rushing for the win ? and licking everyone on the other side? yeah cause shooting violenza clearly showed that ... in fact it's quite the opposite style of playing you guys seem to have gotten used to on .com; after all this is supposed to be a game of gangsters and mobsters, not some sheep herding simulator.
Critycal at 20:24:14 on 16/07:
I still got my dignity though :(
Tony-E at 19:52:42 on 16/07:
i guess someone is buthurt.
Critycal at 19:33:26 on 16/07:
Haha, implying we would still want to work with that deceiving pile of trash.
.NL tactics on .COM, it never works!
Anonymous at 15:55:37 on 16/07:
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
.NL tactics on .COM, it never works!
i guess someone is buthurt.
Tony-E at 19:52:42 on 16/07:
i guess someone is buthurt.
Critycal at 19:33:26 on 16/07:
Haha, implying we would still want to work with that deceiving pile of trash.
.NL tactics on .COM, it never works!
Anonymous at 15:55:37 on 16/07:
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
.NL tactics on .COM, it never works!
i guess someone is buthurt.
Last vers merci has 8 crossblooded bloods and secret bloods with siber... That's not bringing fun, thats cheap rushing for the win and it didn't work out for them... This vers they try the same and lick everyone on the other side, and now they get wat they deserve!
Critycal at 19:33:26 on 16/07:
Haha, implying we would still want to work with that deceiving pile of trash.
.NL tactics on .COM, it never works!
Anonymous at 15:55:37 on 16/07:
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
.NL tactics on .COM, it never works!
i guess someone is buthurt.
Anonymous (19:38:49 - 16-07)
ElMariachi` at 18:02:27 on 16/07:
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
Anonymous at 17:16:37 on 16/07:
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
Anonymous at 15:55:37 on 16/07:
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Is kinda sad!
u all are complaining for the pacting..
Next vers i can see merciless on siberia side.. and u will complain why...
what about doing your own thing .. ?
Doesn't matter which side Merciless is on. If you consider the average iq of their tops they'll always get outplayed by either anarchy+ or siberia/colossal/forlenza. They just aren't bright enough and too power hungry to be succesful on .com, especially Tony-e is just a joke.
And by succesful on .com you mean make a pact with half of the highranks in the game and get your star ? Cause that's what it has become these days. At least we bring a bit of fun to the game and we're not afraid to shoot and die because of it. I personally prefer these kind of fams over easy version wins every time.
Even your bloods countered on you last version for what you did. Blablabla no one trusts you..
Maybe when you leave tony your fam would be able to play and be trustable.