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04-07 The Stabbening
Author: Fenrir
Last updated: 3447d 20h 38m 12s ago by Johnx
Comments: 259
Views: 70,761
Votes: 1 (4 average)
Version: 4.7.5
Involved families: Ponies, Sangreal, Siberia, Marazzino
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After a week of rumours and general distrust between the powerhouses of this version, Siberia hits Marazzino.
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Siberia Top statement:
Well, this is an unpleasant turn in this already boring version.
In the beginning of the version we had interesting and promising talks with Marazzino.
One of the subjects was the endgame. Marazzino claimed to not be hungry for the HOF and asked us not to be hunting it either, mentioning how we’ve had some “minor” issues with that in the past.
We agreed, and we honestly didn’t care all too much about it, both of us won before and it didn’t matter much who would get it.
<~Ari> don't get me wrong I'm not saying you are stabbers or untrustworthy, all I'm saying is if everything works out and we see the end together
<~Ari> both you and us have potential to be point wise big
<~Ari> I don't want it getting messy

Then as the version proceeded we had more and more issues with the incredibly locked version because of mass-blooding and NSA’s that didn’t even make sense.
When we were in war with Unholy, Lusa, Persico and Cifuentes, Marazzino recruited all their runners and even threatened us that they will shoot back if we continue shooting the families that were planning on us for a long time.

We let them live and continued our bloodship with Marazzino.

A few days later, before Maraz went down, there were a couple of rumors on Beyond about our detectives spot.
It was on 70m profit, and it took a lot of time for Maraz to realize that we OWN a detectives spot, so like any other spot we could only reset it once a week.
No matter what we’ve said or what we’ve shown them to prove we weren’t doing anything against them (we trusted them, duh), Marazzino kept threatening us and started hiring massively on us.
10 talks and 20 threats later, we agreed to stop this nonsense and end the version together.
Then, Maraz got akilled, and they lost their #1 position. Out of a sudden, the entire “not caring about winning” conversation turned out to be a load of bullcrap.
Maraz went to multiple families, begging for highranks and money “so Siberia can’t win the HOF”.
At that point it was just too much.
We’ve taken a lot of shit this version, compared to the last one we’ve been very tolerant about a lot of moves that shouldn’t by far be accepted by anyone, but all we were looking for was a long lasting relationship with a decent family.
Obviously Marazzino wasn’t any material to be this kind of family.
It’s a shame it has to go like this, but we also have our dignity.
statistics
War started on: 13:58:04 04-07-2015 War ended on: 13:58:04 05-07-2015
Bullet difference: -15,102,044 War duration: 1d 0h 0m
Money difference: -$993,563,159 Players died: 134




deaths
Dead Families:
[Ponies] Family down on 09:07 05-07
[Marazzino] Family down on 06:38 05-07
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Marazzino | swin: 2 | assa: 2 | lc: 7 | chief: 5 | brug: 68 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 1,003
Ponies | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 5
Siberia | swin: 3 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 0 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 108
Total | swin: 5 | assa: 2 | lc: 10 | chief: 5 | brug: 75 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 1,116
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Anonymous (15:14:32 - 06-07)
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dont forget the pony bike for the sidekick
Critycal Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Patron (12:49:54 - 06-07)
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gode at 11:52:03 on 06/07:
Critycal at 10:08:40 on 06/07:
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hey Critycal o/ its nice to see you & Aart becoming buddies. trying to find out new BUG to abuse? would be nice teamwork for you 2
Great idea!
Aart, to the bugmobile!
gode Turkey (11:52:03 - 06-07)
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Critycal at 10:08:40 on 06/07:
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hey Critycal o/ its nice to see you & Aart becoming buddies. trying to find out new BUG to abuse? would be nice teamwork for you 2
Knele Germany (11:33:14 - 06-07)
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Anonymous at 11:30:51 on 06/07:
Knele at 11:27:35 on 06/07:
I believe that was funny war between Sibileaks and Maratrash xD
the war between maraz and progayzano was more funny


Actually it could be funny if there were less snitches in this game :')
Anonymous (11:30:51 - 06-07)
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Knele at 11:27:35 on 06/07:
I believe that was funny war between Sibileaks and Maratrash xD
the war between maraz and progayzano was more funny
Knele Germany (11:27:35 - 06-07)
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I believe that was funny war between Sibileaks and Maratrash xD
rk9 Portugal (10:33:58 - 06-07)
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Eheheheheheh
Critycal Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Patron (10:08:40 - 06-07)
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Aart at 09:52:02 on 06/07:
gode at 04:54:51 on 06/07:
Pakito at 20:14:49 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 20:04:45 on 05/07:
Do not worry stabber, Everyone take him serious. Gode is the best killer and player of this game. His words are more believable than you stabber

nice, praise yourself with an anonymous comment :D

lol you can check IPs, ok i can get boring with comments time to time, but not that idiot to praise myself with anon comments. possibly somebody (like smartass aart) trying to bash with such idiot praise
No, it's actually one of your delusional 'crew buddies'. When I talk trash about someone, in particularly you, I have way too much fun doing it publicly.
Now pls leave your obsession about me alone for a bit and go back managing those toilets at Ericsson.
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Aart (09:52:02 - 06-07)
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gode at 04:54:51 on 06/07:
Pakito at 20:14:49 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 20:04:45 on 05/07:
Do not worry stabber, Everyone take him serious. Gode is the best killer and player of this game. His words are more believable than you stabber

nice, praise yourself with an anonymous comment :D

lol you can check IPs, ok i can get boring with comments time to time, but not that idiot to praise myself with anon comments. possibly somebody (like smartass aart) trying to bash with such idiot praise
No, it's actually one of your delusional 'crew buddies'. When I talk trash about someone, in particularly you, I have way too much fun doing it publicly.
Now pls leave your obsession about me alone for a bit and go back managing those toilets at Ericsson.
Anonymous (06:31:06 - 06-07)
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MurderInc at 06:25:33 on 06/07:
Zina at 06:15:19 on 06/07:
MurderInc at 22:43:48 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 22:38:54 on 05/07:
Mickgee aka mcgee at 14:12:15 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:50 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:34 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:26 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 19:16:01 on 04/07:
we dont want any stabbers/leakers/cheaters/runner lovers/huggers here.

no anarchy/siberia/marazzino/colossal:S
no persico/jannisary:L
no siberia/lusa/aeterna/marazzino/righelli:C
no siberia/marazzino/colossal/enfoire:RL
no sangreal:H
why no one talks this?

They do, it's just that most of those posts get deleted.
It
or in My case Mr Murder Inc banned my IP for 48hrs for speaking freely.
Speaking freely:
Anonymous at 05:29:51 on 05/07:
I must have READ THIS SITE. It's full of shit everywhere. PHP by... & MurderInc... Oops, I'm sorry.
Go do that somewhere else.
Well if that's a reason for you to ban go try find a job in omerta itself lol
that a real butthurt to ipban someone for that reply....
He's obviously not interested in any meaningful discussion, only in personal attacks against me and the site, and I don't think anyone should have to put up with that.
do you guys never sleep? get some sleep and let me alone here :(
MurderInc Austria (06:25:33 - 06-07)
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Zina at 06:15:19 on 06/07:
MurderInc at 22:43:48 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 22:38:54 on 05/07:
Mickgee aka mcgee at 14:12:15 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:50 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:34 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:26 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 19:16:01 on 04/07:
we dont want any stabbers/leakers/cheaters/runner lovers/huggers here.

no anarchy/siberia/marazzino/colossal:S
no persico/jannisary:L
no siberia/lusa/aeterna/marazzino/righelli:C
no siberia/marazzino/colossal/enfoire:RL
no sangreal:H
why no one talks this?

They do, it's just that most of those posts get deleted.
It
or in My case Mr Murder Inc banned my IP for 48hrs for speaking freely.
Speaking freely:
Anonymous at 05:29:51 on 05/07:
I must have READ THIS SITE. It's full of shit everywhere. PHP by... & MurderInc... Oops, I'm sorry.
Go do that somewhere else.
Well if that's a reason for you to ban go try find a job in omerta itself lol
that a real butthurt to ipban someone for that reply....
He's obviously not interested in any meaningful discussion, only in personal attacks against me and the site, and I don't think anyone should have to put up with that.
Zina Netherlands (06:22:20 - 06-07)
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Johnx at 18:52:16 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 17:31:50 on 05/07:
Johnx at 10:29:13 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 10:24:24 on 05/07:
"but all we were looking for was a long lasting relationship with a decent family."

You've had 2 of those decent families within a long lasting relationship but that is ruined by the greed for power and HOF within Siberia. Maybe the way of playing last 4-5 versions gave Marazzino the thought of dumping Siberia anyway. Since Siberia is always having too much greed for HOF. I do think that this war would've been happening anyway. Why the hell would you ever accept all those 'shit things' you have taken this version, which were like unacceptable, as you say yourself. It's your own greedy style of playing which causes other families to constantly keeping an eye on your actions/moves. Even though you are blooded with them. Remember last version, poor Casappa/Agnitio/Nyanya, puppets to weaken Anarchy so Siberia could get one last try to get the HOF. Then call Anarchy backstabbers when they banged Siberia.. Right. I think you should change the way of blooding and loyalty towards friendly families. What you give is what you get..
Please tell me which fams we've had a long lasting relationship with, where we were the ones destroying it.

Especially you should know it, and you know which 2 families I am talking about. Remember the triangle Lusa/Aeterna/Siberia? I think you do. That triangle was a strong decent triangle where all 3 families just did the best for one another. Other families had pretty much trouble to break that triangle. A sign that those 3 families working together was simply a smooth solid bond. You and I both know how Siberia sneaky walked out of that triangle, but they actually caused it themselves. They were making too many mistakes, making it hard for Lusa/Aeterna to solve it over and over again. I think Aeterna/Lusa decided for once to not save the asses of Siberia to teach them a lesson and show them that they have to be careful with their way of tactics. Apparently, Siberia already made the decision themselves to move out of that triangle, but also decided to do everything to bash plans of Aeterna/Lusa, since they were pretty mad of getting the lesson learned.

Don't get me wrong, for the game it's not that bad that Lusa/Aeterna/Siberia basically quit working in that triangle, now other families have their chance to show their worth. It's just pretty funny to see how Siberia complains about Marazzino being shady, while Siberia has been shady since they got out of that strong triangle. Doing silly moves and lose grip of a decent versionwin, which causes more shady actions from Siberia to get bloods downed and more fun stuff like that, all for the win. No wonder people are not really amused by Siberia and also don't forget the lack of trust in Siberia. It's the reckless and greedy style of playing which basically kills Siberia. Blinded by HOF, blinded by obtaining the stars. That's just how it is.

Interesting to see Siberia talking about dignity in this case, the shit Marazzino done was not done. While Siberia does/done these shady 'not done' things too. What instantly explains you why you have a hard time finding a decent family to work with, nearly no one really trusts Siberia.
Especially I should know it, and I also know quite a lot about the whole triangle. So why on earth do you think you know more than me about it? I got a lot of first hand information, only a few people know more than me about that subject really. So plz get out of here. If you want to know what really happened you can easily pm me on irc. But you have to be quick since this is my last day in the civilized world for some time ;(
valid point anonpoint..
Zina Netherlands (06:15:19 - 06-07)
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MurderInc at 22:43:48 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 22:38:54 on 05/07:
Mickgee aka mcgee at 14:12:15 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:50 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:34 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:26 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 19:16:01 on 04/07:
we dont want any stabbers/leakers/cheaters/runner lovers/huggers here.

no anarchy/siberia/marazzino/colossal:S
no persico/jannisary:L
no siberia/lusa/aeterna/marazzino/righelli:C
no siberia/marazzino/colossal/enfoire:RL
no sangreal:H
why no one talks this?

They do, it's just that most of those posts get deleted.
It
or in My case Mr Murder Inc banned my IP for 48hrs for speaking freely.
Speaking freely:
Anonymous at 05:29:51 on 05/07:
I must have READ THIS SITE. It's full of shit everywhere. PHP by... & MurderInc... Oops, I'm sorry.
Go do that somewhere else.
Well if that's a reason for you to ban go try find a job in omerta itself lol
that a real butthurt to ipban someone for that reply....
gode Turkey (05:11:46 - 06-07)
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ElIndio at 04:37:29 on 06/07:
Most fams we've founded and gode has played in had no playing style which gode mentioned above. Venture, Fidelitas, Nufan, 2nd Avaritia have no massblooding. I don't know about first Avaritia and some fams B|Jack, Jans etc. founded without me. Stabbing we did only to fams that were selling us.

Elindio _o_ o/
gode Turkey (04:54:51 - 06-07)
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Pakito at 20:14:49 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 20:04:45 on 05/07:
Do not worry stabber, Everyone take him serious. Gode is the best killer and player of this game. His words are more believable than you stabber

nice, praise yourself with an anonymous comment :D

lol you can check IPs, ok i can get boring with comments time to time, but not that idiot to praise myself with anon comments. possibly somebody (like smartass aart) trying to bash with such idiot praise
ElIndio Germany (04:37:29 - 06-07)
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MurderInc at 03:12:17 on 06/07:
ElIndio at 02:57:52 on 06/07:
Johnx at 15:35:15 on 05/07:
gode at 15:24:01 on 05/07:
[...]
[...]
Avaritia history, you mean when they gangbanged siberia with half the game?

Oh, my fam got into crossfire.
This last sentence of yours is a bit odd, don't you think?
I feel indifferent to Siberia, but I want to remind you of something you seem to have forgotten.

If the initial attack of mentioned war would have caused no reaction by other fams, then you could have spoken about a gangbang not by "half the game", but by a large group. A group which clearly was below being half of fams apart from attacker+target, let alone game.
If we then were to separate between attackers on Siberia and Cartagena, then Avaritia and Bafra being on Siberia alone hardly could count as gangbang.

But since fate has decided, the attack caused reactions. Recall: Aeterna and others shot at backup fams and at shooters, and were fought back, also by the fams on Siberia.
Jannisary+ and Colossal made a ceasefire with Cartagena and then fought against the ones shooting Siberia. Fams like Renocenti, Montechiaro or at last Nazdrovia helped them, too.
(In the second topic of the war series it states that Marazzino has shot. They have, tho just 2 negligible targets. Then at the last day of war, they have shot again.)

Remember, the fighting lasted for like 15 days. Until the last few days Avaritia and their friends were the underdogs, while on last days still at risk.
They simply managed the war and politics well and spoiled the fun of massblooders.

I have written a book which you can read under following topic's sole top statement. It will help you return to mind. Like above, I can add chapters to it if it pleases you.

http://news.omertabeyond.net/1747


BTW: There was a reason we had to gather all those fams on our side. Have you forgotten how big of a bloodcircle your ex-fam was? Despite of this our numbers were barely enough.
I'm guessing he was referring to this war:
http://news.omertabeyond.net/1719


Ah, then I'm the oblivious one, forgetting there was an Avaritia in a preceding version I was inactive for most of the time(:

Maybe I should say: "In that case, provided I ignore the circumstances I cannot comment on because of inactivity, Johnx' comment might be legit."

But I won't. Because the original quote contains these:

Johnx at 15:35:15 on 05/07:
gode at 15:24:01 on 05/07:
Johnx at 11:57:54 on 05/07:
gode at 11:30:50 on 05/07:
Well some time ago siberia was stabbing mid version
https://news.omertabeyond.net/1739

Now they learned their lesson, blood/NSA 10+ fams, stab remaining candidate at last week

[...]
[...]
You always join fams that does exactly the things you cry about. I've never seen you be anything but a pact soldier [...]
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you can check venture/fidelitas history where we fought vinci-conflict bloodcircle of half omerta. and my friends avaritia history when they fuck siberia in the ass.
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Avaritia history, you mean when they gangbanged siberia with half the game?


Johnx' comment isn't only about gangbanging, just as gode's complaints aren't only about gangbanging.

If we read your statement in the war you showed me you say: "At first, we could handle the situation against Sovereign, Provenzano, Atom, Catania, Samagono and Krays, but then some trashfams decided to join in because the attackers couldn’t handle these ponies on their own sadly enough."

B|Jack says: "We had to stand up else this version would had been locked too quickly, As the big fams keep teaming up and therefor destroying the gameplay."

Mind that I'm not going into the vicious circle of pacting-vs-gangbang-vs-pacting (which you're also addressing in the same statement). What I see here is not automatically a bloodweb but a massive attack on a superior common enemy who living on will cause the version to be locked up already at the beginning.

Most fams we've founded and gode has played in had no playing style which gode mentioned above. Venture, Fidelitas, Nufan, 2nd Avaritia have no massblooding. I don't know about first Avaritia and some fams B|Jack, Jans etc. founded without me. Stabbing we did only to fams that were selling us.
MurderInc Austria (03:12:17 - 06-07)
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ElIndio at 02:57:52 on 06/07:
Johnx at 15:35:15 on 05/07:
gode at 15:24:01 on 05/07:
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[...]
Avaritia history, you mean when they gangbanged siberia with half the game?

Oh, my fam got into crossfire.
This last sentence of yours is a bit odd, don't you think?
I feel indifferent to Siberia, but I want to remind you of something you seem to have forgotten.

If the initial attack of mentioned war would have caused no reaction by other fams, then you could have spoken about a gangbang not by "half the game", but by a large group. A group which clearly was below being half of fams apart from attacker+target, let alone game.
If we then were to separate between attackers on Siberia and Cartagena, then Avaritia and Bafra being on Siberia alone hardly could count as gangbang.

But since fate has decided, the attack caused reactions. Recall: Aeterna and others shot at backup fams and at shooters, and were fought back, also by the fams on Siberia.
Jannisary+ and Colossal made a ceasefire with Cartagena and then fought against the ones shooting Siberia. Fams like Renocenti, Montechiaro or at last Nazdrovia helped them, too.
(In the second topic of the war series it states that Marazzino has shot. They have, tho just 2 negligible targets. Then at the last day of war, they have shot again.)

Remember, the fighting lasted for like 15 days. Until the last few days Avaritia and their friends were the underdogs, while on last days still at risk.
They simply managed the war and politics well and spoiled the fun of massblooders.

I have written a book which you can read under following topic's sole top statement. It will help you return to mind. Like above, I can add chapters to it if it pleases you.

http://news.omertabeyond.net/1747


BTW: There was a reason we had to gather all those fams on our side. Have you forgotten how big of a bloodcircle your ex-fam was? Despite of this our numbers were barely enough.
I'm guessing he was referring to this war:
http://news.omertabeyond.net/1719
ElIndio Germany (02:57:52 - 06-07)
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Johnx at 15:35:15 on 05/07:
gode at 15:24:01 on 05/07:
[...]
[...]
Avaritia history, you mean when they gangbanged siberia with half the game?

Oh, my fam got into crossfire.
This last sentence of yours is a bit odd, don't you think?
I feel indifferent to Siberia, but I want to remind you of something you seem to have forgotten.

If the initial attack of mentioned war would have caused no reaction by other fams, then you could have spoken about a gangbang not by "half the game", but by a large group. A group which clearly was below being half of fams apart from attacker+target, let alone game.
If we then were to separate between attackers on Siberia and Cartagena, then Avaritia and Bafra being on Siberia alone hardly could count as gangbang.

But since fate has decided, the attack caused reactions. Recall: Aeterna and others shot at backup fams and at shooters, and were fought back, also by the fams on Siberia.
Jannisary+ and Colossal made a ceasefire with Cartagena and then fought against the ones shooting Siberia. Fams like Renocenti, Montechiaro or at last Nazdrovia helped them, too.
(In the second topic of the war series it states that Marazzino has shot. They have, tho just 2 negligible targets. Then at the last day of war, they have shot again.)

Remember, the fighting lasted for like 15 days. Until the last few days Avaritia and their friends were the underdogs, while on last days still at risk.
They simply managed the war and politics well and spoiled the fun of massblooders.

I have written a book which you can read under following topic's sole top statement. It will help you return to mind. Like above, I can add chapters to it if it pleases you.

http://news.omertabeyond.net/1747


BTW: There was a reason we had to gather all those fams on our side. Have you forgotten how big of a bloodcircle your ex-fam was? Despite of this our numbers were barely enough.
Anonymous (23:45:06 - 05-07)
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so that makes agon a pony lover and him and murderinc ride pony bikes together isn't that cute
Anonymous (23:17:51 - 05-07)
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Anonymous at 23:15:27 on 05/07:
@Anon: "we dont want any stabbers/leakers/cheaters/runner lovers/huggers here.

no anarchy/siberia/marazzino/colossal:S
no persico/jannisary:L
no siberia/lusa/aeterna/marazzino/righelli:C
no siberia/marazzino/colossal/enfoire:RL
no sangreal:H
"

what about Gambino, Gravano, Kurosawa, Avaritia, Provenzano, Traffi, Temp, Krays blablabla? no classification?

Gravano play 1 wersion affter 2 years,kuro is retired 1 years,krays retired long time,avataria is go retired,temp?(who the fuck they are?)