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04-07 The Stabbening
Author: Fenrir
Last updated: 3211d 19h 42m 30s ago by Johnx
Comments: 259
Views: 63,580
Votes: 1 (4 average)
Version: 4.7.5
Involved families: Ponies, Sangreal, Siberia, Marazzino
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After a week of rumours and general distrust between the powerhouses of this version, Siberia hits Marazzino.
statements
Siberia Top statement:
Well, this is an unpleasant turn in this already boring version.
In the beginning of the version we had interesting and promising talks with Marazzino.
One of the subjects was the endgame. Marazzino claimed to not be hungry for the HOF and asked us not to be hunting it either, mentioning how we’ve had some “minor” issues with that in the past.
We agreed, and we honestly didn’t care all too much about it, both of us won before and it didn’t matter much who would get it.
<~Ari> don't get me wrong I'm not saying you are stabbers or untrustworthy, all I'm saying is if everything works out and we see the end together
<~Ari> both you and us have potential to be point wise big
<~Ari> I don't want it getting messy

Then as the version proceeded we had more and more issues with the incredibly locked version because of mass-blooding and NSA’s that didn’t even make sense.
When we were in war with Unholy, Lusa, Persico and Cifuentes, Marazzino recruited all their runners and even threatened us that they will shoot back if we continue shooting the families that were planning on us for a long time.

We let them live and continued our bloodship with Marazzino.

A few days later, before Maraz went down, there were a couple of rumors on Beyond about our detectives spot.
It was on 70m profit, and it took a lot of time for Maraz to realize that we OWN a detectives spot, so like any other spot we could only reset it once a week.
No matter what we’ve said or what we’ve shown them to prove we weren’t doing anything against them (we trusted them, duh), Marazzino kept threatening us and started hiring massively on us.
10 talks and 20 threats later, we agreed to stop this nonsense and end the version together.
Then, Maraz got akilled, and they lost their #1 position. Out of a sudden, the entire “not caring about winning” conversation turned out to be a load of bullcrap.
Maraz went to multiple families, begging for highranks and money “so Siberia can’t win the HOF”.
At that point it was just too much.
We’ve taken a lot of shit this version, compared to the last one we’ve been very tolerant about a lot of moves that shouldn’t by far be accepted by anyone, but all we were looking for was a long lasting relationship with a decent family.
Obviously Marazzino wasn’t any material to be this kind of family.
It’s a shame it has to go like this, but we also have our dignity.
statistics
War started on: 13:58:04 04-07-2015 War ended on: 13:58:04 05-07-2015
Bullet difference: -15,102,044 War duration: 1d 0h 0m
Money difference: -$993,563,159 Players died: 134




deaths
Dead Families:
[Ponies] Family down on 09:07 05-07
[Marazzino] Family down on 06:38 05-07
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Marazzino | swin: 2 | assa: 2 | lc: 7 | chief: 5 | brug: 68 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 1,003
Ponies | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 5
Siberia | swin: 3 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 0 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 108
Total | swin: 5 | assa: 2 | lc: 10 | chief: 5 | brug: 75 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 1,116
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Anonymous (23:15:27 - 05-07)
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@Anon: "we dont want any stabbers/leakers/cheaters/runner lovers/huggers here.

no anarchy/siberia/marazzino/colossal:S
no persico/jannisary:L
no siberia/lusa/aeterna/marazzino/righelli:C
no siberia/marazzino/colossal/enfoire:RL
no sangreal:H
"

what about Gambino, Gravano, Kurosawa, Avaritia, Provenzano, Traffi, Temp, Krays blablabla? no classification?
Anonymous (23:10:50 - 05-07)
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haha i am sorry but anyways we all know ponies suck and will do anything to screw everyone up
Anonymous (23:05:49 - 05-07)
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Anonymous at 22:55:23 on 05/07:
you all need to grow up its like 5 year olds here
you are wrong. i am 6 years old.
Anonymous (22:55:23 - 05-07)
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you all need to grow up its like 5 year olds here
MurderInc Austria (22:43:48 - 05-07)
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Anonymous at 22:38:54 on 05/07:
Mickgee aka mcgee at 14:12:15 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:50 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:34 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:26 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 19:16:01 on 04/07:
we dont want any stabbers/leakers/cheaters/runner lovers/huggers here.

no anarchy/siberia/marazzino/colossal:S
no persico/jannisary:L
no siberia/lusa/aeterna/marazzino/righelli:C
no siberia/marazzino/colossal/enfoire:RL
no sangreal:H
why no one talks this?

They do, it's just that most of those posts get deleted.
It
or in My case Mr Murder Inc banned my IP for 48hrs for speaking freely.
Speaking freely:
Anonymous at 05:29:51 on 05/07:
I must have READ THIS SITE. It's full of shit everywhere. PHP by... & MurderInc... Oops, I'm sorry.
Go do that somewhere else.
Stabbers (22:39:45 - 05-07)
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Hiring actions
Anonymous (22:38:54 - 05-07)
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Mickgee aka mcgee at 14:12:15 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:50 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:34 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 13:47:26 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 19:16:01 on 04/07:
we dont want any stabbers/leakers/cheaters/runner lovers/huggers here.

no anarchy/siberia/marazzino/colossal:S
no persico/jannisary:L
no siberia/lusa/aeterna/marazzino/righelli:C
no siberia/marazzino/colossal/enfoire:RL
no sangreal:H
why no one talks this?

They do, it's just that most of those posts get deleted.
It
or in My case Mr Murder Inc banned my IP for 48hrs for speaking freely.
Anonymous (22:00:15 - 05-07)
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if he starts arguing with himself start laughing
Anonymous (20:23:43 - 05-07)
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Anonymous at 20:04:45 on 05/07:
MurderInc at 15:35:12 on 05/07:
gode at 15:24:01 on 05/07:
Johnx at 11:57:54 on 05/07:
gode at 11:30:50 on 05/07:
Well some time ago siberia was stabbing mid version
https://news.omertabeyond.net/1739

Now they learned their lesson, blood/NSA 10+ fams, stab remaining candidate at last week

If that doesnt work, they will move to next lvl of faggottary
Mention our 10 bloods/NSAs plz.
And should we now mention again the hypocrisy of your statement? You always join fams that does exactly the things you cry about. I've never seen you be anything but a pact soldier, I don't have anything against it, don't get me wrong, but can you just stop being so damn salty all the time.

Kuro,Renewal,Maraz,Gambino,Sangreal,Phoenix,Righelli,Imperial,Temps
Maybe 1-2 less 1-2 more

Well u guys really pissed me off with public bashing (anon comments etc) expect some bad suicides around lc-chief :( gl busting ^^

you can check venture/fidelitas history where we fought vinci-conflict bloodcircle of half omerta. and my friends avaritia history when they fuck siberia in the ass. i thought gambino had less of a bloodcircle when i join, didnt know they had 15
1. We are no bloods with Imperial and Temp
2. Sangreal is our as1, not blood
3. Kuro was added after we lost 2 bloods.

But yeah, whatever, no one takes you serious anymore anyway. Your whole life seems to evolve around finding shit to post about Siberia.
Do not worry stabber, Everyone take him serious. Gode is the best killer and player of this game. His words are more believable than you stabber
gode stop talkin to urself
Pakito �land Islands (20:14:49 - 05-07)
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Anonymous at 20:04:45 on 05/07:
MurderInc at 15:35:12 on 05/07:
gode at 15:24:01 on 05/07:
Johnx at 11:57:54 on 05/07:
gode at 11:30:50 on 05/07:
Well some time ago siberia was stabbing mid version
https://news.omertabeyond.net/1739

Now they learned their lesson, blood/NSA 10+ fams, stab remaining candidate at last week

If that doesnt work, they will move to next lvl of faggottary
Mention our 10 bloods/NSAs plz.
And should we now mention again the hypocrisy of your statement? You always join fams that does exactly the things you cry about. I've never seen you be anything but a pact soldier, I don't have anything against it, don't get me wrong, but can you just stop being so damn salty all the time.

Kuro,Renewal,Maraz,Gambino,Sangreal,Phoenix,Righelli,Imperial,Temps
Maybe 1-2 less 1-2 more

Well u guys really pissed me off with public bashing (anon comments etc) expect some bad suicides around lc-chief :( gl busting ^^

you can check venture/fidelitas history where we fought vinci-conflict bloodcircle of half omerta. and my friends avaritia history when they fuck siberia in the ass. i thought gambino had less of a bloodcircle when i join, didnt know they had 15
1. We are no bloods with Imperial and Temp
2. Sangreal is our as1, not blood
3. Kuro was added after we lost 2 bloods.

But yeah, whatever, no one takes you serious anymore anyway. Your whole life seems to evolve around finding shit to post about Siberia.
Do not worry stabber, Everyone take him serious. Gode is the best killer and player of this game. His words are more believable than you stabber

nice, praise yourself with an anonymous comment :D
Anonymous (20:04:45 - 05-07)
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MurderInc at 15:35:12 on 05/07:
gode at 15:24:01 on 05/07:
Johnx at 11:57:54 on 05/07:
gode at 11:30:50 on 05/07:
Well some time ago siberia was stabbing mid version
https://news.omertabeyond.net/1739

Now they learned their lesson, blood/NSA 10+ fams, stab remaining candidate at last week

If that doesnt work, they will move to next lvl of faggottary
Mention our 10 bloods/NSAs plz.
And should we now mention again the hypocrisy of your statement? You always join fams that does exactly the things you cry about. I've never seen you be anything but a pact soldier, I don't have anything against it, don't get me wrong, but can you just stop being so damn salty all the time.

Kuro,Renewal,Maraz,Gambino,Sangreal,Phoenix,Righelli,Imperial,Temps
Maybe 1-2 less 1-2 more

Well u guys really pissed me off with public bashing (anon comments etc) expect some bad suicides around lc-chief :( gl busting ^^

you can check venture/fidelitas history where we fought vinci-conflict bloodcircle of half omerta. and my friends avaritia history when they fuck siberia in the ass. i thought gambino had less of a bloodcircle when i join, didnt know they had 15
1. We are no bloods with Imperial and Temp
2. Sangreal is our as1, not blood
3. Kuro was added after we lost 2 bloods.

But yeah, whatever, no one takes you serious anymore anyway. Your whole life seems to evolve around finding shit to post about Siberia.
Do not worry stabber, Everyone take him serious. Gode is the best killer and player of this game. His words are more believable than you stabber
prcialrdydonated (19:47:38 - 05-07)
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21:36 Crit|dnd http://www.gofundme.com/siberia <- pay the poor ponies



LETS GO!!!
Anonymous (19:44:01 - 05-07)
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Pakito at 19:35:53 on 05/07:
http://www.gofundme.com/siberia
ahahah
Bas Germany (19:42:13 - 05-07)
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Johnx at 18:55:36 on 05/07:
gode at 17:25:59 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 17:14:59 on 05/07:
Aart at 17:05:25 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 15:29:36 on 05/07:
Go back to Ericsson Mr. Manager.
lel
Don't laugh Aart, now Mr. Ericsson Manager will threaten to suicide on your family, Righelli, just like he threatened to suicide on Johnx's family.

Righelli doesnt have good accounts when they are not bug abusing, so not worth it. And im not threatining, you will see siberia tops crying again about suicides after 2 weeks.
Crying about suiciding? We lost a lot of people to suiciding, but can't exactly remember crying about it. We've made comments about how easy it would be to avoid the mass suiciding that took place earlier this version simply by adding some of the features that .dm has. So once again you are talking out of your ass Gode.
And you can't build strong accounts without duping or being funded by a lot of people, just thought I'd bring that up since you're calling out other people

Au revoir Johnx! :(
Pakito �land Islands (19:35:53 - 05-07)
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http://www.gofundme.com/siberia
Johnx Denmark (18:55:36 - 05-07)
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gode at 17:25:59 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 17:14:59 on 05/07:
Aart at 17:05:25 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 15:29:36 on 05/07:
Go back to Ericsson Mr. Manager.
lel
Don't laugh Aart, now Mr. Ericsson Manager will threaten to suicide on your family, Righelli, just like he threatened to suicide on Johnx's family.

Righelli doesnt have good accounts when they are not bug abusing, so not worth it. And im not threatining, you will see siberia tops crying again about suicides after 2 weeks.
Crying about suiciding? We lost a lot of people to suiciding, but can't exactly remember crying about it. We've made comments about how easy it would be to avoid the mass suiciding that took place earlier this version simply by adding some of the features that .dm has. So once again you are talking out of your ass Gode.
And you can't build strong accounts without duping or being funded by a lot of people, just thought I'd bring that up since you're calling out other people
Johnx Denmark (18:52:16 - 05-07)
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Anonymous at 17:31:50 on 05/07:
Johnx at 10:29:13 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 10:24:24 on 05/07:
"but all we were looking for was a long lasting relationship with a decent family."

You've had 2 of those decent families within a long lasting relationship but that is ruined by the greed for power and HOF within Siberia. Maybe the way of playing last 4-5 versions gave Marazzino the thought of dumping Siberia anyway. Since Siberia is always having too much greed for HOF. I do think that this war would've been happening anyway. Why the hell would you ever accept all those 'shit things' you have taken this version, which were like unacceptable, as you say yourself. It's your own greedy style of playing which causes other families to constantly keeping an eye on your actions/moves. Even though you are blooded with them. Remember last version, poor Casappa/Agnitio/Nyanya, puppets to weaken Anarchy so Siberia could get one last try to get the HOF. Then call Anarchy backstabbers when they banged Siberia.. Right. I think you should change the way of blooding and loyalty towards friendly families. What you give is what you get..
Please tell me which fams we've had a long lasting relationship with, where we were the ones destroying it.

Especially you should know it, and you know which 2 families I am talking about. Remember the triangle Lusa/Aeterna/Siberia? I think you do. That triangle was a strong decent triangle where all 3 families just did the best for one another. Other families had pretty much trouble to break that triangle. A sign that those 3 families working together was simply a smooth solid bond. You and I both know how Siberia sneaky walked out of that triangle, but they actually caused it themselves. They were making too many mistakes, making it hard for Lusa/Aeterna to solve it over and over again. I think Aeterna/Lusa decided for once to not save the asses of Siberia to teach them a lesson and show them that they have to be careful with their way of tactics. Apparently, Siberia already made the decision themselves to move out of that triangle, but also decided to do everything to bash plans of Aeterna/Lusa, since they were pretty mad of getting the lesson learned.

Don't get me wrong, for the game it's not that bad that Lusa/Aeterna/Siberia basically quit working in that triangle, now other families have their chance to show their worth. It's just pretty funny to see how Siberia complains about Marazzino being shady, while Siberia has been shady since they got out of that strong triangle. Doing silly moves and lose grip of a decent versionwin, which causes more shady actions from Siberia to get bloods downed and more fun stuff like that, all for the win. No wonder people are not really amused by Siberia and also don't forget the lack of trust in Siberia. It's the reckless and greedy style of playing which basically kills Siberia. Blinded by HOF, blinded by obtaining the stars. That's just how it is.

Interesting to see Siberia talking about dignity in this case, the shit Marazzino done was not done. While Siberia does/done these shady 'not done' things too. What instantly explains you why you have a hard time finding a decent family to work with, nearly no one really trusts Siberia.
Especially I should know it, and I also know quite a lot about the whole triangle. So why on earth do you think you know more than me about it? I got a lot of first hand information, only a few people know more than me about that subject really. So plz get out of here. If you want to know what really happened you can easily pm me on irc. But you have to be quick since this is my last day in the civilized world for some time ;(
Aart (18:35:42 - 05-07)
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Cracka at 17:48:17 on 05/07:
Aart at 17:30:44 on 05/07:
gode at 17:25:59 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 17:14:59 on 05/07:
Aart at 17:05:25 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 15:29:36 on 05/07:
Go back to Ericsson Mr. Manager.
lel
Don't laugh Aart, now Mr. Ericsson Manager will threaten to suicide on your family, Righelli, just like he threatened to suicide on Johnx's family.

Righelli doesnt have good accounts when they are not bug abusing, so not worth it. And im not threatining, you will see siberia tops crying again about suicides after 2 weeks.
Oh i'm not allowed to laugh now either?! Jeez what a corrupt site.
dude, you get ppl akilled because you cheat so much...your whole life is a cheat.
True, but atleast my phone works ;(
MurderInc Austria (17:56:04 - 05-07)
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Anonymous at 17:31:50 on 05/07:
Johnx at 10:29:13 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 10:24:24 on 05/07:
"but all we were looking for was a long lasting relationship with a decent family."

You've had 2 of those decent families within a long lasting relationship but that is ruined by the greed for power and HOF within Siberia. Maybe the way of playing last 4-5 versions gave Marazzino the thought of dumping Siberia anyway. Since Siberia is always having too much greed for HOF. I do think that this war would've been happening anyway. Why the hell would you ever accept all those 'shit things' you have taken this version, which were like unacceptable, as you say yourself. It's your own greedy style of playing which causes other families to constantly keeping an eye on your actions/moves. Even though you are blooded with them. Remember last version, poor Casappa/Agnitio/Nyanya, puppets to weaken Anarchy so Siberia could get one last try to get the HOF. Then call Anarchy backstabbers when they banged Siberia.. Right. I think you should change the way of blooding and loyalty towards friendly families. What you give is what you get..
Please tell me which fams we've had a long lasting relationship with, where we were the ones destroying it.

Especially you should know it, and you know which 2 families I am talking about. Remember the triangle Lusa/Aeterna/Siberia? I think you do. That triangle was a strong decent triangle where all 3 families just did the best for one another. Other families had pretty much trouble to break that triangle. A sign that those 3 families working together was simply a smooth solid bond. You and I both know how Siberia sneaky walked out of that triangle, but they actually caused it themselves. They were making too many mistakes, making it hard for Lusa/Aeterna to solve it over and over again. I think Aeterna/Lusa decided for once to not save the asses of Siberia to teach them a lesson and show them that they have to be careful with their way of tactics. Apparently, Siberia already made the decision themselves to move out of that triangle, but also decided to do everything to bash plans of Aeterna/Lusa, since they were pretty mad of getting the lesson learned.

Don't get me wrong, for the game it's not that bad that Lusa/Aeterna/Siberia basically quit working in that triangle, now other families have their chance to show their worth. It's just pretty funny to see how Siberia complains about Marazzino being shady, while Siberia has been shady since they got out of that strong triangle. Doing silly moves and lose grip of a decent versionwin, which causes more shady actions from Siberia to get bloods downed and more fun stuff like that, all for the win. No wonder people are not really amused by Siberia and also don't forget the lack of trust in Siberia. It's the reckless and greedy style of playing which basically kills Siberia. Blinded by HOF, blinded by obtaining the stars. That's just how it is.

Interesting to see Siberia talking about dignity in this case, the shit Marazzino done was not done. While Siberia does/done these shady 'not done' things too. What instantly explains you why you have a hard time finding a decent family to work with, nearly no one really trusts Siberia.
Haha, yes, deciding to quit working with certain families is quite shady. It's not like the landscape in this game ever changes. People should just make bloods and keep them for years, never changing anything version after version. Sounds like a game I would want to play.

Your whole argument gets laughable when you consider that both Aeterna (4.73) and Lusa (4.61) won a version in the time we worked together. I guess we must have forgotten to stab them or something.

By the way, I can't say that we ever had problems finding bloods. Rest assured that pretty much every version we played, we had options to blood almost all relevant families.
Cracka (17:48:17 - 05-07)
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Aart at 17:30:44 on 05/07:
gode at 17:25:59 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 17:14:59 on 05/07:
Aart at 17:05:25 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 15:29:36 on 05/07:
Go back to Ericsson Mr. Manager.
lel
Don't laugh Aart, now Mr. Ericsson Manager will threaten to suicide on your family, Righelli, just like he threatened to suicide on Johnx's family.

Righelli doesnt have good accounts when they are not bug abusing, so not worth it. And im not threatining, you will see siberia tops crying again about suicides after 2 weeks.
Oh i'm not allowed to laugh now either?! Jeez what a corrupt site.
dude, you get ppl akilled because you cheat so much...your whole life is a cheat.