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Author: MurderInc
Last updated: 3224d 10h 46m 17s ago by MurderInc
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Involved families: Enfoire, Ndrangheta, Ndrine, Renewal
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Ndrangheta and Enfoire are shooting Renewal
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War started on: 18:04:04 25-06-2015 War ended on: 20:57:03 26-06-2015
Bullet difference: -12,762,810 War duration: 1d 2h 52m
Money difference: -$43,832,100 Players died: 151




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Dead Families:
[Renewal] Family down on 18:04 26-06
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Enfoire | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 44
Ndrangheta | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 8 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 119
Ndrine | swin: 3 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 2 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 61
Renewal | swin: 3 | assa: 5 | lc: 4 | chief: 12 | brug: 52 | cd: 6 | gf: 0 | points: 944
Total | swin: 7 | assa: 5 | lc: 6 | chief: 14 | brug: 65 | cd: 7 | gf: 0 | points: 1,168
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Anonymous (00:09:57 - 26-06)
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Anonymous at 21:24:26 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 21:18:38 on 25/06:
Fenrir at 20:34:23 on 25/06:
Tbh fams put themselves into this position completely by own choice.

If we see this from Maraz perspective: Afaik they had Lusa(Shield as1), Siberia(Sangreal as1), Ndrangheta(Enfoire as1), Renewal, Colossal, Persico, Righelli as bloods.

Which means after Vizzini died you had only Gambino, Phoenix, Unholy that werent connected to Maraz by bloodship. Gambino had a NSA(nonshoot agreement) which made the only possible shooters vs #1 fam down to 2 individual fams(only counting "topfams"). Essentially version was already won for Maraz after Vizzini died, cause unless 2-3 major backstabs would occur at same time, no fam had any chance of killing them.

At this point all Maraz has to do is sit back and watch their own bloods kill eachother. So fams like Persico and Lusa get killed by another blood of Maraz(Sib) and now Ndrang/Enfo kills Renewal.

I wouldnt accept being someones 7th or 8th blood cause i know their movements would be handicapped by bloodships and make it essentially a oneway-blood. The only gain you get out of a bloodship like that, is that you can counter if they get attacked, but there are HUGE chances you will not get a counter if you yourself get shot. If i commit to a bloodship, i commit to defending them, BUT i expect that notion to be returned, and thats not possible when the amount of bloods is way too high.

Short version: Stop playing like fucking sheeps. You put yourself into this situation
Marazzino always been a shite fam, you could easily understand with that "perspective". All I want is Anarchy coming back and start to rape them again and again. Besides they were bloods with Unholy too. They screwed many bloods, the only perspective which I've understood from them is take out main enemy "vizini/anarchy etc" then blood every fucking family that exist. Also they are pretty good at hunting chiefs while their bloods were being slaughtered. I'd gladly add more info about how legendry they're but meh maraz is maraz.
ahaha. "Anarchy coming back and start to rape them again and again" that made me laugh ahahaha. i think you dont know that anarchy is maraz's wife. they even know that but you :) yes, prev version maraz is fucked by them but sometimes you must let your wife being on top and fuck you otherwise your fucking back could really pains very very bad ahaha :)
How come a homo fam has a wife dude you got a whole other level of imagination. Eventually we'll see about who is the lord of that relationship of yours. Also I gladly want you to know that I support homosexuality so there you go. Anyway good luck with that dream of yours, soon we'll see about that :)
Anonymous (00:04:06 - 26-06)
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Anonymous at 23:48:15 on 25/06:
Dat renewal...

Got destroyed without shooting back?

What the fuck are you little chicks or batches in a fucking bar...and waiting for what? Got fucked?

hahahaha spot on!
Muyo (23:57:21 - 25-06)
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Andalusia.. how many of your bloods died already ? I know 2 for sure ;)
It's time for some action.. be loyal to your choices.. or don't blood anymore !
I am enjoying ^^ (23:49:49 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 23:48:15 on 25/06:
Dat renewal...

Got destroyed without shooting back?

What the fuck are you little chicks or batches in a fucking bar...and waiting for what? Got fucked?

they r still hoping that a family would show up annd save them ^^ they cant do anything alone, cowards
Anonymous (23:48:15 - 25-06)
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Dat renewal...

Got destroyed without shooting back?

What the fuck are you little chicks or batches in a fucking bar...and waiting for what? Got fucked?
Anonymous (22:57:41 - 25-06)
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\o/ siberia+anarshy
Anonymous at 22:17:25 on 25/06:
renewal died no ws inkill

---God bless you thanks to your turn and crashed blod marazzino came
uhuhuhhahahahaha
MurderInc Austria (22:24:21 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 22:20:01 on 25/06:
\o/ siberia+anarshy
uwot m8
Anonymous (22:20:01 - 25-06)
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\o/ siberia+anarshy
Anonymous (22:17:25 - 25-06)
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renewal died no ws inkill

---God bless you thanks to your turn and crashed blod marazzino came
Anonymous (22:00:35 - 25-06)
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All versions are becoming worse and more worse,I have an idea why not all families in the next version do a pact, no family war for 2 months, then all will have much more what to show...
Anonymous (21:48:29 - 25-06)
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Nuke at 21:13:12 on 25/06:
If Righelli is a blood of Renewal, they could save them.. However, it's not going to happen if Renewal does not get online and start shooting back. If I had 60 brugs, I'd get everyone online, hire and shoot everyone that was online with 4 attack bg's. A war of attrition can be won by a family that size.

Smaller families will only help a team like Renewal if they're ready to come online and finish the job.

righelli is the only one left not blooded to renewal
Fenrir Norway (21:48:05 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 21:33:48 on 25/06:
Fenrir at 20:34:23 on 25/06:
Tbh fams put themselves into this position completely by own choice.

If we see this from Maraz perspective: Afaik they had Lusa(Shield as1), Siberia(Sangreal as1), Ndrangheta(Enfoire as1), Renewal, Colossal, Persico, Righelli as bloods.

Which means after Vizzini died you had only Gambino, Phoenix, Unholy that werent connected to Maraz by bloodship. Gambino had a NSA(nonshoot agreement) which made the only possible shooters vs #1 fam down to 2 individual fams(only counting "topfams"). Essentially version was already won for Maraz after Vizzini died, cause unless 2-3 major backstabs would occur at same time, no fam had any chance of killing them.

At this point all Maraz has to do is sit back and watch their own bloods kill eachother. So fams like Persico and Lusa get killed by another blood of Maraz(Sib) and now Ndrang/Enfo kills Renewal.

I wouldnt accept being someones 7th or 8th blood cause i know their movements would be handicapped by bloodships and make it essentially a oneway-blood. The only gain you get out of a bloodship like that, is that you can counter if they get attacked, but there are HUGE chances you will not get a counter if you yourself get shot. If i commit to a bloodship, i commit to defending them, BUT i expect that notion to be returned, and thats not possible when the amount of bloods is way too high.

Short version: Stop playing like fucking sheeps. You put yourself into this situation

I agree. But didn't you end up in exactly the same position? The only families Siberia weren't connected to were Persico, Lusa and Unholy, 2 of which they had NSAs with. You blooded them. One could argue that you de-sheeped yourself with your suicide, which we all applaud for its nobility, but you put yourself in that position to begin with. I don't know if you blooded Siberia before or after they made themselves useless to you, but once it was public that Marazzino, Siberia and Renewal had all blooded each other this outcome in its entirety was obvious.

Your suicide, though noble, achieved very little as the situation had already been established. The only difference between you and the 'sheep' you're criticising was the speed in which you were able to understand the inevitable outcome. Ultimately, however, you were in the same position that they had found themselves in. Wether you wait for your turn at the slaughterhouse or go charging into the grinder yourself doesn't matter in the end. It certainly doesn't give you the moral high ground.

I never countered or helped Sib into their position :< Siberia did however counter for me. The reason we ended up in a bad position is pure stubbornness. We refused 5x top 10fams and plenty of other fams in order to keep our bloods minimized and play for ourselves. We like countering and keeping our shooting options open, something i thought would make us viable for cooperation for fams. I dont like blooding too many fams, but i will not let my playerbase suffer either. I will bump this in the future if people complain. And lets not forget Sib shot Persico/Lusa/Unholy.

Anyways we waited a week with our suicide. We used a week trying to make families move, but no one were interested. They had either blooded themselves into a retarded position or simply didnt understand why they needed to act.
Anonymous (21:33:48 - 25-06)
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Fenrir at 20:34:23 on 25/06:
Tbh fams put themselves into this position completely by own choice.

If we see this from Maraz perspective: Afaik they had Lusa(Shield as1), Siberia(Sangreal as1), Ndrangheta(Enfoire as1), Renewal, Colossal, Persico, Righelli as bloods.

Which means after Vizzini died you had only Gambino, Phoenix, Unholy that werent connected to Maraz by bloodship. Gambino had a NSA(nonshoot agreement) which made the only possible shooters vs #1 fam down to 2 individual fams(only counting "topfams"). Essentially version was already won for Maraz after Vizzini died, cause unless 2-3 major backstabs would occur at same time, no fam had any chance of killing them.

At this point all Maraz has to do is sit back and watch their own bloods kill eachother. So fams like Persico and Lusa get killed by another blood of Maraz(Sib) and now Ndrang/Enfo kills Renewal.

I wouldnt accept being someones 7th or 8th blood cause i know their movements would be handicapped by bloodships and make it essentially a oneway-blood. The only gain you get out of a bloodship like that, is that you can counter if they get attacked, but there are HUGE chances you will not get a counter if you yourself get shot. If i commit to a bloodship, i commit to defending them, BUT i expect that notion to be returned, and thats not possible when the amount of bloods is way too high.

Short version: Stop playing like fucking sheeps. You put yourself into this situation

I agree. But didn't you end up in exactly the same position? The only families Siberia weren't connected to were Persico, Lusa and Unholy, 2 of which they had NSAs with. You blooded them. One could argue that you de-sheeped yourself with your suicide, which we all applaud for its nobility, but you put yourself in that position to begin with. I don't know if you blooded Siberia before or after they made themselves useless to you, but once it was public that Marazzino, Siberia and Renewal had all blooded each other this outcome in its entirety was obvious.

Your suicide, though noble, achieved very little as the situation had already been established. The only difference between you and the 'sheep' you're criticising was the speed in which you were able to understand the inevitable outcome. Ultimately, however, you were in the same position that they had found themselves in. Wether you wait for your turn at the slaughterhouse or go charging into the grinder yourself doesn't matter in the end. It certainly doesn't give you the moral high ground.
Anonymous (21:24:26 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 21:18:38 on 25/06:
Fenrir at 20:34:23 on 25/06:
Tbh fams put themselves into this position completely by own choice.

If we see this from Maraz perspective: Afaik they had Lusa(Shield as1), Siberia(Sangreal as1), Ndrangheta(Enfoire as1), Renewal, Colossal, Persico, Righelli as bloods.

Which means after Vizzini died you had only Gambino, Phoenix, Unholy that werent connected to Maraz by bloodship. Gambino had a NSA(nonshoot agreement) which made the only possible shooters vs #1 fam down to 2 individual fams(only counting "topfams"). Essentially version was already won for Maraz after Vizzini died, cause unless 2-3 major backstabs would occur at same time, no fam had any chance of killing them.

At this point all Maraz has to do is sit back and watch their own bloods kill eachother. So fams like Persico and Lusa get killed by another blood of Maraz(Sib) and now Ndrang/Enfo kills Renewal.

I wouldnt accept being someones 7th or 8th blood cause i know their movements would be handicapped by bloodships and make it essentially a oneway-blood. The only gain you get out of a bloodship like that, is that you can counter if they get attacked, but there are HUGE chances you will not get a counter if you yourself get shot. If i commit to a bloodship, i commit to defending them, BUT i expect that notion to be returned, and thats not possible when the amount of bloods is way too high.

Short version: Stop playing like fucking sheeps. You put yourself into this situation
Marazzino always been a shite fam, you could easily understand with that "perspective". All I want is Anarchy coming back and start to rape them again and again. Besides they were bloods with Unholy too. They screwed many bloods, the only perspective which I've understood from them is take out main enemy "vizini/anarchy etc" then blood every fucking family that exist. Also they are pretty good at hunting chiefs while their bloods were being slaughtered. I'd gladly add more info about how legendry they're but meh maraz is maraz.
ahaha. "Anarchy coming back and start to rape them again and again" that made me laugh ahahaha. i think you dont know that anarchy is maraz's wife. they even know that but you :) yes, prev version maraz is fucked by them but sometimes you must let your wife being on top and fuck you otherwise your fucking back could really pains very very bad ahaha :)
Anonymous (21:22:36 - 25-06)
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Nuke at 21:13:12 on 25/06:
If Righelli is a blood of Renewal, they could save them.. However, it's not going to happen if Renewal does not get online and start shooting back. If I had 60 brugs, I'd get everyone online, hire and shoot everyone that was online with 4 attack bg's. A war of attrition can be won by a family that size.

Smaller families will only help a team like Renewal if they're ready to come online and finish the job.
Righeli shoot kuro many wersion.
Anonymous (21:18:38 - 25-06)
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Fenrir at 20:34:23 on 25/06:
Tbh fams put themselves into this position completely by own choice.

If we see this from Maraz perspective: Afaik they had Lusa(Shield as1), Siberia(Sangreal as1), Ndrangheta(Enfoire as1), Renewal, Colossal, Persico, Righelli as bloods.

Which means after Vizzini died you had only Gambino, Phoenix, Unholy that werent connected to Maraz by bloodship. Gambino had a NSA(nonshoot agreement) which made the only possible shooters vs #1 fam down to 2 individual fams(only counting "topfams"). Essentially version was already won for Maraz after Vizzini died, cause unless 2-3 major backstabs would occur at same time, no fam had any chance of killing them.

At this point all Maraz has to do is sit back and watch their own bloods kill eachother. So fams like Persico and Lusa get killed by another blood of Maraz(Sib) and now Ndrang/Enfo kills Renewal.

I wouldnt accept being someones 7th or 8th blood cause i know their movements would be handicapped by bloodships and make it essentially a oneway-blood. The only gain you get out of a bloodship like that, is that you can counter if they get attacked, but there are HUGE chances you will not get a counter if you yourself get shot. If i commit to a bloodship, i commit to defending them, BUT i expect that notion to be returned, and thats not possible when the amount of bloods is way too high.

Short version: Stop playing like fucking sheeps. You put yourself into this situation
Marazzino always been a shite fam, you could easily understand with that "perspective". All I want is Anarchy coming back and start to rape them again and again. Besides they were bloods with Unholy too. They screwed many bloods, the only perspective which I've understood from them is take out main enemy "vizini/anarchy etc" then blood every fucking family that exist. Also they are pretty good at hunting chiefs while their bloods were being slaughtered. I'd gladly add more info about how legendry they're but meh maraz is maraz.
Nuke United States (21:13:12 - 25-06)
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If Righelli is a blood of Renewal, they could save them.. However, it's not going to happen if Renewal does not get online and start shooting back. If I had 60 brugs, I'd get everyone online, hire and shoot everyone that was online with 4 attack bg's. A war of attrition can be won by a family that size.

Smaller families will only help a team like Renewal if they're ready to come online and finish the job.
Anonymous (20:50:35 - 25-06)
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Zina at 20:22:27 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 20:20:23 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 18:41:56 on 25/06:
Redfire at 18:38:46 on 25/06:
They were always hiding behind bloods. Now take the consequences when u are left with all ur bloods down. Write it down. Marazzino wont shoot a single bullet for u suckers.

what about righelli , imperial and andalusia ? are they going to counter for renewal ?

btw siberia can be backup for Ndrangheta ? interesting situation...

Andalusia doesn't shoot, they probably don't even own guns xD
lol :p

they where bloods Traffie and Temp , but only recruiting now and truyng to be big lol
i think they learned that from agon :D
Anonymous (20:48:14 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 20:43:34 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 18:53:57 on 25/06:
serbians + albanians vs turks?

wtf?

it should be turks + albanians vs serbians

xD
Indeed , Im albanian too , but Agon its a shit , he sells his nation for winning some vouchers

we are playing fucking this game without racism... pls go to the amusement park your friends are there...

Fenrir at 20:34:23 on 25/06:
Tbh fams put themselves into this position completely by own choice.

If we see this from Maraz perspective: Afaik they had Lusa(Shield as1), Siberia(Sangreal as1), Ndrangheta(Enfoire as1), Renewal, Colossal, Persico, Righelli as bloods.

Which means after Vizzini died you had only Gambino, Phoenix, Unholy that werent connected to Maraz by bloodship. Gambino had a NSA(nonshoot agreement) which made the only possible shooters vs #1 fam down to 2 individual fams(only counting "topfams"). Essentially version was already won for Maraz after Vizzini died, cause unless 2-3 major backstabs would occur at same time, no fam had any chance of killing them.

At this point all Maraz has to do is sit back and watch their own bloods kill eachother. So fams like Persico and Lusa get killed by another blood of Maraz(Sib) and now Ndrang/Enfo kills Renewal.

I wouldnt accept being someones 7th or 8th blood cause i know their movements would be handicapped by bloodships and make it essentially a oneway-blood. The only gain you get out of a bloodship like that, is that you can counter if they get attacked, but there are HUGE chances you will not get a counter if you yourself get shot. If i commit to a bloodship, i commit to defending them, BUT i expect that notion to be returned, and thats not possible when the amount of bloods is way too high.

Short version: Stop playing like fucking sheeps. You put yourself into this situation

you are right...

And all families crews must talk about these wars time... it musn't be 1-1,5 months:)
First 2-3 months don't war:)

Anonymous (20:45:13 - 25-06)
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Fenrir at 20:34:23 on 25/06:
Tbh fams put themselves into this position completely by own choice.

If we see this from Maraz perspective: Afaik they had Lusa(Shield as1), Siberia(Sangreal as1), Ndrangheta(Enfoire as1), Renewal, Colossal, Persico, Righelli as bloods.

Which means after Vizzini died you had only Gambino, Phoenix, Unholy that werent connected to Maraz by bloodship. Gambino had a NSA(nonshoot agreement) which made the only possible shooters vs #1 fam down to 2 individual fams(only counting "topfams"). Essentially version was already won for Maraz after Vizzini died, cause unless 2-3 major backstabs would occur at same time, no fam had any chance of killing them.

At this point all Maraz has to do is sit back and watch their own bloods kill eachother. So fams like Persico and Lusa get killed by another blood of Maraz(Sib) and now Ndrang/Enfo kills Renewal.

I wouldnt accept being someones 7th or 8th blood cause i know their movements would be handicapped by bloodships and make it essentially a oneway-blood. The only gain you get out of a bloodship like that, is that you can counter if they get attacked, but there are HUGE chances you will not get a counter if you yourself get shot. If i commit to a bloodship, i commit to defending them, BUT i expect that notion to be returned, and thats not possible when the amount of bloods is way too high.

Short version: Stop playing like fucking sheeps. You put yourself into this situation

Marazz screwed Persico