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I've seen some a-killing going on on multiple versions concerning money trading over different versions.
More and more people start an account on a seperate version to save up cash, to trade that cash over to their main version account to make it stronger. Admins call this duping.
I would like to see a discussion going on how the player base feels about this, as some would say there's technically nothing wrong with it. Some have standard trading partners in which you can help them get stronger, it's a different person, ranking by themselves, on a seperate version.
Discuss along please!
More and more people start an account on a seperate version to save up cash, to trade that cash over to their main version account to make it stronger. Admins call this duping.
I would like to see a discussion going on how the player base feels about this, as some would say there's technically nothing wrong with it. Some have standard trading partners in which you can help them get stronger, it's a different person, ranking by themselves, on a seperate version.
Discuss along please!
Anonymous (16:58:16 - 15-12)
Anonymous at 12:08:02 on 12/12:
crew its just killing portuguese guys..
maybe to have a way to close .pt
o/
crew its just killing portuguese guys..
maybe to have a way to close .pt
o/
But not all Portuguese people.. Perhaps the crew is on to something.
Anonymous at 14:40:33 on 14/12:
blame yourselfs if you play fair like a handfull fams do, you cant win.
impossible cause the handfull fams who play fair are struggling and everyone see them as noob cause they dont cheat. think about that before blaming admins.
blame yourselfs if you play fair like a handfull fams do, you cant win.
impossible cause the handfull fams who play fair are struggling and everyone see them as noob cause they dont cheat. think about that before blaming admins.
Illuanna does not participate in that crap. We finished the previous two rounds. I think you have it backwards.. People who money trade suck for having to get boosted to keep up.
Anonymous (14:40:33 - 14-12)
blame yourselfs if you play fair like a handfull fams do, you cant win.
impossible cause the handfull fams who play fair are struggling and everyone see them as noob cause they dont cheat. think about that before blaming admins.
impossible cause the handfull fams who play fair are struggling and everyone see them as noob cause they dont cheat. think about that before blaming admins.
Anonymous (22:00:03 - 13-12)
spirit of this game died many years ago m8
Anonymous (14:57:39 - 13-12)
Grannqe` at 01:11:35 on 13/12:
they are finding excuses to kill the game more and more XD thats stupid to kill people for other versions, they want to shut down the game so fucking hard :(
they are finding excuses to kill the game more and more XD thats stupid to kill people for other versions, they want to shut down the game so fucking hard :(
Yes, blame admins...
The only thing they fail to do is to kill more of those annoying A-holes who are trying to gain advantage over others with cheating or other ways that are not in the spirit of the game.
Grannqe` (01:11:35 - 13-12)
they are finding excuses to kill the game more and more XD thats stupid to kill people for other versions, they want to shut down the game so fucking hard :(
Anonymous (19:15:57 - 12-12)
Maybe rankers should have a certain amount of bullets ro unlock ranks assassin to brug.
For example:
To promote from swinlder to assassin you need at least 25,000 bullets.
Once unlocked stays unlocked, also with rebirths it stays unlocked.
This makes sure you dont sell out all your bullets and give strength to families you join.
Heista
For example:
To promote from swinlder to assassin you need at least 25,000 bullets.
Once unlocked stays unlocked, also with rebirths it stays unlocked.
This makes sure you dont sell out all your bullets and give strength to families you join.
Heista
Anonymous (14:12:44 - 12-12)
rk9 at 13:14:03 on 12/12:
i still wonder why they had time to akill me but not akill all the others oololololol
Solstice at 10:18:23 on 12/12:
So because of administrative failing like not addressing the cd-glitch and the trading Burguesia won't get into Hall of fame. Good game admins, good game.
So because of administrative failing like not addressing the cd-glitch and the trading Burguesia won't get into Hall of fame. Good game admins, good game.
Solstice at 10:18:23 on 12/12:
So because of administrative failing like not addressing the cd-glitch and the trading Burguesia won't get into Hall of fame. Good game admins, good game.
So because of administrative failing like not addressing the cd-glitch and the trading Burguesia won't get into Hall of fame. Good game admins, good game.
Anonymous (12:34:39 - 12-12)
Anonymous at 12:10:53 on 12/12:
Like I said: I send people so manu money each version, in wars, during the version, bullet money, tops being offline in the middle of the night etc. I understand why you come up with this solution but it isn't the source of this problem. Your idea simply comes up with loads of side-effects and will decrease the freedom and dynamics of this game. That being said, if the admins see this as cheating they need to look at the source of the problem. Or have subversions closed, or have people any have the ability to make 1 account on all of the versions. If you play .nl, you can't play .com and the other way around. In the end that will probably kill the shittier subversions quicker and hope will leave 1 main version.
Anonymous at 10:01:47 on 12/12:
Money compensation can be sent from family to family. It will not be a problem.
You can hate the idea as much as you want, but try to come up with a better idea. You know that admins will not close all subversions. For the record, I would also support closing all subversions. But we do need a solution which will satisfy both players and admins
Anonymous at 08:29:15 on 12/12:
Relying on top3 only to send you money for detectives or bodyguards is just a bad idea. The amount of times I've sent money to fam members without being top3 is about every war. It won't make any war more interesting since wars are already attacker friendly. Next to that how about money compensation after a wrong kill and other stuff alike. You make things unnecessarily complicated while the solution is way more easy. Close subversions, get your .no families on .com as far as that didn't happen already. It might also support reranking in a way since lots of people I know go .nl or .pt after they died .com. Subversions also creates a lot of ghost accounts (people with a lackey account that only play another version seriously and play a ghost account as a favour)
Relying on top3 only to send you money for detectives or bodyguards is just a bad idea. The amount of times I've sent money to fam members without being top3 is about every war. It won't make any war more interesting since wars are already attacker friendly. Next to that how about money compensation after a wrong kill and other stuff alike. You make things unnecessarily complicated while the solution is way more easy. Close subversions, get your .no families on .com as far as that didn't happen already. It might also support reranking in a way since lots of people I know go .nl or .pt after they died .com. Subversions also creates a lot of ghost accounts (people with a lackey account that only play another version seriously and play a ghost account as a favour)
You can hate the idea as much as you want, but try to come up with a better idea. You know that admins will not close all subversions. For the record, I would also support closing all subversions. But we do need a solution which will satisfy both players and admins
Like I said: I send people so manu money each version, in wars, during the version, bullet money, tops being offline in the middle of the night etc. I understand why you come up with this solution but it isn't the source of this problem. Your idea simply comes up with loads of side-effects and will decrease the freedom and dynamics of this game. That being said, if the admins see this as cheating they need to look at the source of the problem. Or have subversions closed, or have people any have the ability to make 1 account on all of the versions. If you play .nl, you can't play .com and the other way around. In the end that will probably kill the shittier subversions quicker and hope will leave 1 main version.
But there are multiple solutions, and none of them is perfect. Every solution will have it's advantages and disadvantages. 1 account on all versions would be nice I guess. As long as people keep discussing in a nice and respectful way, other solutions will arise, hopefully with less side-effects and more agreeable for everyone.
Anonymous (12:10:53 - 12-12)
Anonymous at 10:01:47 on 12/12:
Money compensation can be sent from family to family. It will not be a problem.
You can hate the idea as much as you want, but try to come up with a better idea. You know that admins will not close all subversions. For the record, I would also support closing all subversions. But we do need a solution which will satisfy both players and admins
Anonymous at 08:29:15 on 12/12:
Relying on top3 only to send you money for detectives or bodyguards is just a bad idea. The amount of times I've sent money to fam members without being top3 is about every war. It won't make any war more interesting since wars are already attacker friendly. Next to that how about money compensation after a wrong kill and other stuff alike. You make things unnecessarily complicated while the solution is way more easy. Close subversions, get your .no families on .com as far as that didn't happen already. It might also support reranking in a way since lots of people I know go .nl or .pt after they died .com. Subversions also creates a lot of ghost accounts (people with a lackey account that only play another version seriously and play a ghost account as a favour)
Relying on top3 only to send you money for detectives or bodyguards is just a bad idea. The amount of times I've sent money to fam members without being top3 is about every war. It won't make any war more interesting since wars are already attacker friendly. Next to that how about money compensation after a wrong kill and other stuff alike. You make things unnecessarily complicated while the solution is way more easy. Close subversions, get your .no families on .com as far as that didn't happen already. It might also support reranking in a way since lots of people I know go .nl or .pt after they died .com. Subversions also creates a lot of ghost accounts (people with a lackey account that only play another version seriously and play a ghost account as a favour)
You can hate the idea as much as you want, but try to come up with a better idea. You know that admins will not close all subversions. For the record, I would also support closing all subversions. But we do need a solution which will satisfy both players and admins
Like I said: I send people so manu money each version, in wars, during the version, bullet money, tops being offline in the middle of the night etc. I understand why you come up with this solution but it isn't the source of this problem. Your idea simply comes up with loads of side-effects and will decrease the freedom and dynamics of this game. That being said, if the admins see this as cheating they need to look at the source of the problem. Or have subversions closed, or have people any have the ability to make 1 account on all of the versions. If you play .nl, you can't play .com and the other way around. In the end that will probably kill the shittier subversions quicker and hope will leave 1 main version.
Anonymous (12:08:02 - 12-12)
crew its just killing portuguese guys..
maybe to have a way to close .pt
o/
maybe to have a way to close .pt
o/
Solstice (10:21:47 - 12-12)
Anonymous at 10:19:34 on 12/12:
RESET METER ??????????????
RESET METER ??????????????
Reset is next thursday, check ingame message.
Anonymous (10:19:34 - 12-12)
RESET METER ??????????????
Solstice (10:18:23 - 12-12)
So because of administrative failing like not addressing the cd-glitch and the trading Burguesia won't get into Hall of fame. Good game admins, good game.
Anonymous (10:01:47 - 12-12)
Anonymous at 08:29:15 on 12/12:
Relying on top3 only to send you money for detectives or bodyguards is just a bad idea. The amount of times I've sent money to fam members without being top3 is about every war. It won't make any war more interesting since wars are already attacker friendly. Next to that how about money compensation after a wrong kill and other stuff alike. You make things unnecessarily complicated while the solution is way more easy. Close subversions, get your .no families on .com as far as that didn't happen already. It might also support reranking in a way since lots of people I know go .nl or .pt after they died .com. Subversions also creates a lot of ghost accounts (people with a lackey account that only play another version seriously and play a ghost account as a favour)
Relying on top3 only to send you money for detectives or bodyguards is just a bad idea. The amount of times I've sent money to fam members without being top3 is about every war. It won't make any war more interesting since wars are already attacker friendly. Next to that how about money compensation after a wrong kill and other stuff alike. You make things unnecessarily complicated while the solution is way more easy. Close subversions, get your .no families on .com as far as that didn't happen already. It might also support reranking in a way since lots of people I know go .nl or .pt after they died .com. Subversions also creates a lot of ghost accounts (people with a lackey account that only play another version seriously and play a ghost account as a favour)
You can hate the idea as much as you want, but try to come up with a better idea. You know that admins will not close all subversions. For the record, I would also support closing all subversions. But we do need a solution which will satisfy both players and admins
Anonymous (08:29:15 - 12-12)
Relying on top3 only to send you money for detectives or bodyguards is just a bad idea. The amount of times I've sent money to fam members without being top3 is about every war. It won't make any war more interesting since wars are already attacker friendly. Next to that how about money compensation after a wrong kill and other stuff alike. You make things unnecessarily complicated while the solution is way more easy. Close subversions, get your .no families on .com as far as that didn't happen already. It might also support reranking in a way since lots of people I know go .nl or .pt after they died .com. Subversions also creates a lot of ghost accounts (people with a lackey account that only play another version seriously and play a ghost account as a favour)
Anonymous (23:13:10 - 11-12)
Anonymous at 02:24:22 on 11/12:
There is no need for big changes to fix this problem, just one very simple change: get rid of money transfers.
Automatically split money gained from group crimes and then just take away the option to transfer money between individual accounts. Simple. The fam bank should be the only exception to this. Top 3 should be able to withdraw money from fam bank and send some to members, but that's it. No depositing money into fam bank, because that could lead to a laundering loophole. Objects profits should automatically go into the fam bank.
Some might see this as punishing all members to spite a few, but I disagree. Having played completely legit (no duping or trading) I have only ever needed to transfer money not related to a group crime for one reason: when a fam member needed money for dets/bg repair during war time. That money could just as easily have come from fam bank...it should have come from there honestly, but some tops in this game can be greedy as fuck.
So there you go, a very simple change and account boosters will be cut off at the knees. Legit players would hardly be affected by this at all. The only way to possibly "trade" money after this change would be to kill each others account on separate versions while leaving money in pocket. The shooting rank limit will severely restrict that, and since it can only be done once per account it won't occur very often. Problem solved.
There is no need for big changes to fix this problem, just one very simple change: get rid of money transfers.
Automatically split money gained from group crimes and then just take away the option to transfer money between individual accounts. Simple. The fam bank should be the only exception to this. Top 3 should be able to withdraw money from fam bank and send some to members, but that's it. No depositing money into fam bank, because that could lead to a laundering loophole. Objects profits should automatically go into the fam bank.
Some might see this as punishing all members to spite a few, but I disagree. Having played completely legit (no duping or trading) I have only ever needed to transfer money not related to a group crime for one reason: when a fam member needed money for dets/bg repair during war time. That money could just as easily have come from fam bank...it should have come from there honestly, but some tops in this game can be greedy as fuck.
So there you go, a very simple change and account boosters will be cut off at the knees. Legit players would hardly be affected by this at all. The only way to possibly "trade" money after this change would be to kill each others account on separate versions while leaving money in pocket. The shooting rank limit will severely restrict that, and since it can only be done once per account it won't occur very often. Problem solved.
and how about famless players? imagine that you need money for a heist/oc/mob and all tops are offline what will you do?will you wait 3-4-5 hours till one top come online
probably one of the most dumb idea i ever saw here
Anonymous (17:34:12 - 11-12)
Killerzzz at 17:30:56 on 11/12:
nope though i seen more people over last few days getting a message they cantt connect to barafranca.com
Anonymous at 17:18:53 on 11/12:
Omerta .Com down ?
Omerta .Com down ?
nope though i seen more people over last few days getting a message they cantt connect to barafranca.com
yep that the msg i getting, however NL is working fine :')
crew its just killing portuguese guys..
maybe to have a way to close .pt
o/
But not all Portuguese people.. Perhaps the crew is on to something.