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05-12 The Punishment
Author: mmm
Last updated: 3426d 23h 53m 47s ago by mmm
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Version: 4.7.1
Involved families: Lusa, Tijuana
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The Lusa family just got taken down after it's Don (and sotto who tried an escape to Tijana) got a-killed.

Many people are questioning the motives behind this a-kill, one of the admins had the following to say:

Ascii is not killed due to personal account abused, he found a bug in the system so his capos benefitted of it
that's why he got an akill, we will not revive the accounts he killed but we will discuss a compensation otherwise


Also some CD's (maybe all of them) from Lusa got demoted to Local Chief, so these accounts took advantage of the bug as well. The bug supposedly is used by more than just Lusa, it's just the fact that the CD's haven't demoted to Bruglione when having an empty regime, since they didn't do any manual action. Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive.

The official revive rule states that people will only get revived if they have been killed within 3 days before the a-kill of their shooter, which for many of the gangsters comes too late.

How do you feel about this? Should the revive policy need a review? Should the person that fired over 2,5 million bullets and devestated so many accounts get a different punishment?

Comment below!


Update:

Prophecy also falls victim to the same bug abuse as it's don got akilled some hours later.
statistics
War started on: 11:18:05 05-12-2014 War ended on: 12:25:03 05-12-2014
Bullet difference: -199,152 War duration: 1h 6m
Money difference: -$77,461,349 Players died: 3




deaths
Dead Families:
[Lusa] Family down on 11:21 05-12
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Lusa | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 34
Tijuana | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 5
Total | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 39
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M-Gunner (02:52:11 - 06-12)
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Anonymous at 01:22:28 on 06/12:
True story:

Last year I daily took a train to school. To ride on a train isn't free.
But I never paid for my ride and I never got checked.

In the first weeks of this year I continued this behaviour, but I got checked if I had a ticket.
I didn't have one, so I got penalized for riding without a ticket.

As you can understand I am now mightily pissed, because last year I never got checked and penalized for this!


I can agree with this one..
MurderInc Austria (02:25:29 - 06-12)
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Anonymous at 01:22:28 on 06/12:
True story:

Last year I daily took a train to school. To ride on a train isn't free.
But I never paid for my ride and I never got checked.

In the first weeks of this year I continued this behaviour, but I got checked if I had a ticket.
I didn't have one, so I got penalized for riding without a ticket.

As you can understand I am now mightily pissed, because last year I never got checked and penalized for this!
Your comparison isn't valid at all. It would be the equivalent of getting checked for a ticket once every week and not getting fined, and then one day the guy checking your ticket decides to kill your father, mother, siblings and Johnx as a punishment.
Anonymous (01:22:28 - 06-12)
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True story:

Last year I daily took a train to school. To ride on a train isn't free.
But I never paid for my ride and I never got checked.

In the first weeks of this year I continued this behaviour, but I got checked if I had a ticket.
I didn't have one, so I got penalized for riding without a ticket.

As you can understand I am now mightily pissed, because last year I never got checked and penalized for this!
Anonymous (00:06:26 - 06-12)
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Anonymous at 23:36:43 on 05/12:
Anonymous at 23:10:12 on 05/12:
im wondering why those cheaters always act so distressed after getting a-killed.

You know ur risking an a-kill and if u dont ur really dumb..


Problem is, this 'bug' was known for ages now and had no priority because it doesn't influence the game. It's only a visual bug.

They knew that this bug would give them an advantage else they wouldnt have bothered using it. Wether this bug is only visual or not doesnt matter anymore since they took advantage of it. Called bug abusing....

Anonymous (23:36:43 - 05-12)
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Anonymous at 23:10:12 on 05/12:
im wondering why those cheaters always act so distressed after getting a-killed.

You know ur risking an a-kill and if u dont ur really dumb..


Problem is, this 'bug' was known for ages now and had no priority because it doesn't influence the game. It's only a visual bug.
Anonymous (23:10:12 - 05-12)
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im wondering why those cheaters always act so distressed after getting a-killed.

You know ur risking an a-kill and if u dont ur really dumb..

Anonymous (21:45:18 - 05-12)
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rafaz at 19:44:05 on 05/12:
Redvendetta at 19:38:10 on 05/12:
Grigoriy at 19:15:20 on 05/12:
Vendetta at 19:13:22 on 05/12:
MrT at 19:05:04 on 05/12:
"It was reported already in the 4.0 version.

Even this version, in the second war, one of my members went to #help, and reported that a Capodecina was famless, and still Capodecina. What happend? - Nothing, he wasnt Lusa."

IF that is true, then i really think you should make that public, so that everybody can see it. Everybody hust want the truth, nothing more. I dont call Lusa cheaters, and if it really is 100% the crews own fault, then i think everyone likes to know that.

This was on monday morning!

(11:30:43) 07(15Vendetta07) 1 easy question
(11:30:43) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Please take note that I use anti-idle, and my idle time will always be less then 15 seconds. :::
(11:30:43) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Please give me a few minutes to answer or write me a mail to: (). Thank you. :::
(11:30:44) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Active Queries: (3). If this number is higher then 5 expect a long delay before I answer :::
(11:30:44) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: This is not a pm-blocker, but an information screen and your number 906! :::
(11:30:54) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok
(11:31:05) 07(15Vendetta07) what the fuck is wrong with this game...
(11:31:18) 07(15Vendetta07) yesterday 1 family went down
(11:31:28) 07(15Vendetta07) and one of his members stayed decina
(11:31:37) 07(15Vendetta07) and was even able to join other family
(11:31:40) 07(15Vendetta07) today
(11:31:42) 15o15 Can't join 07#help15, because you're banned! (07mode +b15)
(11:31:42) 15-07ChanServ15- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
(11:31:50) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ingame ?
(11:31:58) 07(15Vendetta07) he is dead now
(11:31:59) 07(15Vendetta07) ...
(11:32:03) 07(15Vendetta07) today 5 decinas
(11:32:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) well if he was capo/spot owner and fam goed down he Stays CD until he gains RP
(11:32:11) 07(15Vendetta07) get demoted even before they go online
(11:32:13) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if he doesnt rank he wil not demote
(11:32:23) 07(15Vendetta07) yes I understand that
(11:32:25) 07(15Vendetta07) but just now
(11:32:29) 07(15Vendetta07) 5 decinas of my fam
(11:32:31) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) yes those decenas might have lackeys on ?
(11:32:33) 07(15Vendetta07) got demoted offline
(11:32:40) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) rp = rp manual or lackeys
(11:33:11) 07(15Vendetta07) lackeys offline dont make you demote sry
(11:33:12) 07(15Vendetta07) ....
(11:33:34) 07(15Vendetta07) learn that shooting saturday
(11:36:04) 07(15Vendetta07) ? Xipz0r^atwrk
(11:36:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ?
(11:36:21) 07(15Vendetta07) no comment on this? xd
(11:36:28) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) [12:33] <Vendetta> learn that shooting saturday <--
(11:36:30) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) dont get it ?
(11:36:44) 07(15Vendetta07) If you stay offline even with lackeys
(11:36:52) 07(15Vendetta07) you will stay decina
(11:37:00) 07(15Vendetta07) until you come online
(11:37:02) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if you say so i think otherwise
(11:37:10) 07(15Vendetta07) account offline 5 hours
(11:37:16) 07(15Vendetta07) are not with lackyes off xd
(11:37:30) 07(15Vendetta07) and yet they were decinas
(11:37:53) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok and what is the problem / question ?
(11:38:08) 07(15Vendetta07) why did members of my family went demoted
(11:38:11) 07(15Vendetta07) even offline
(11:38:24) 07(15Vendetta07) when this didint happen to any other family?
(11:38:42) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) i cant see or check that


Moral of the story:

When Lusa reports = who cares.
When Lusa is reported = Akill/ cheaters/ abusers.

Seems legit.

Incorrect. Although this wave of bug abuse is clearly a crock of turd to anyone who knows anything about Omerta, both in regards to it being a bug (it isn't) and in regards to it being abused (it wasn't). The determining factor in deciding whether or not something which is reported gets looked into is based on a vast array of circumstances. Unfortunately for the players, the primary, and most important component when deciding upon the validity of a complaint is usually how a particular admin is feeling at the time of reporting.

I've reported bugs in the past and seen nothing done about them for many versions, not until the stars align and an admin with any level of responsibility shows up and decides that this is their moment, their time to shine...this will be the hour they actually attempt to do their job, investigate something and fix it. This is a respectable effort, thought it is more often than not replaced with a half arsed, 'we'll look into it', or a much more reliable, 'we'll pass that information along'. And then there are these times where someone clearly hasn't been paying attention to the game for the last year or so, whips out their Barafranca punishment flowchart without any context whatsoever and decides to make the entire crew look like amateurish arseholes.

As much as you might want to believe it's because you're Lusa, it isn't. It's fundamentally more broken than that. It's laziness, it's a lack of understanding of the game they're in charge of, it's a lack of attention and most importantly it's an incorrect attitude towards the players.


+1

thats why we have to forget our enemies and unite as omerta players to fight situations like this.

btw, who the fuck is xipz0r LOL

First time i see you saying something usefull rafaz! btw you guys have Kcode to help you as portugues i doubt he refuses help you in all version since before he is the best lusa friend ;)

o/
rafaz Portugal (19:44:05 - 05-12)
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Redvendetta at 19:38:10 on 05/12:
Grigoriy at 19:15:20 on 05/12:
Vendetta at 19:13:22 on 05/12:
MrT at 19:05:04 on 05/12:
"It was reported already in the 4.0 version.

Even this version, in the second war, one of my members went to #help, and reported that a Capodecina was famless, and still Capodecina. What happend? - Nothing, he wasnt Lusa."

IF that is true, then i really think you should make that public, so that everybody can see it. Everybody hust want the truth, nothing more. I dont call Lusa cheaters, and if it really is 100% the crews own fault, then i think everyone likes to know that.

This was on monday morning!

(11:30:43) 07(15Vendetta07) 1 easy question
(11:30:43) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Please take note that I use anti-idle, and my idle time will always be less then 15 seconds. :::
(11:30:43) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Please give me a few minutes to answer or write me a mail to: (). Thank you. :::
(11:30:44) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Active Queries: (3). If this number is higher then 5 expect a long delay before I answer :::
(11:30:44) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: This is not a pm-blocker, but an information screen and your number 906! :::
(11:30:54) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok
(11:31:05) 07(15Vendetta07) what the fuck is wrong with this game...
(11:31:18) 07(15Vendetta07) yesterday 1 family went down
(11:31:28) 07(15Vendetta07) and one of his members stayed decina
(11:31:37) 07(15Vendetta07) and was even able to join other family
(11:31:40) 07(15Vendetta07) today
(11:31:42) 15o15 Can't join 07#help15, because you're banned! (07mode +b15)
(11:31:42) 15-07ChanServ15- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
(11:31:50) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ingame ?
(11:31:58) 07(15Vendetta07) he is dead now
(11:31:59) 07(15Vendetta07) ...
(11:32:03) 07(15Vendetta07) today 5 decinas
(11:32:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) well if he was capo/spot owner and fam goed down he Stays CD until he gains RP
(11:32:11) 07(15Vendetta07) get demoted even before they go online
(11:32:13) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if he doesnt rank he wil not demote
(11:32:23) 07(15Vendetta07) yes I understand that
(11:32:25) 07(15Vendetta07) but just now
(11:32:29) 07(15Vendetta07) 5 decinas of my fam
(11:32:31) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) yes those decenas might have lackeys on ?
(11:32:33) 07(15Vendetta07) got demoted offline
(11:32:40) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) rp = rp manual or lackeys
(11:33:11) 07(15Vendetta07) lackeys offline dont make you demote sry
(11:33:12) 07(15Vendetta07) ....
(11:33:34) 07(15Vendetta07) learn that shooting saturday
(11:36:04) 07(15Vendetta07) ? Xipz0r^atwrk
(11:36:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ?
(11:36:21) 07(15Vendetta07) no comment on this? xd
(11:36:28) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) [12:33] <Vendetta> learn that shooting saturday <--
(11:36:30) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) dont get it ?
(11:36:44) 07(15Vendetta07) If you stay offline even with lackeys
(11:36:52) 07(15Vendetta07) you will stay decina
(11:37:00) 07(15Vendetta07) until you come online
(11:37:02) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if you say so i think otherwise
(11:37:10) 07(15Vendetta07) account offline 5 hours
(11:37:16) 07(15Vendetta07) are not with lackyes off xd
(11:37:30) 07(15Vendetta07) and yet they were decinas
(11:37:53) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok and what is the problem / question ?
(11:38:08) 07(15Vendetta07) why did members of my family went demoted
(11:38:11) 07(15Vendetta07) even offline
(11:38:24) 07(15Vendetta07) when this didint happen to any other family?
(11:38:42) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) i cant see or check that


Moral of the story:

When Lusa reports = who cares.
When Lusa is reported = Akill/ cheaters/ abusers.

Seems legit.

Incorrect. Although this wave of bug abuse is clearly a crock of turd to anyone who knows anything about Omerta, both in regards to it being a bug (it isn't) and in regards to it being abused (it wasn't). The determining factor in deciding whether or not something which is reported gets looked into is based on a vast array of circumstances. Unfortunately for the players, the primary, and most important component when deciding upon the validity of a complaint is usually how a particular admin is feeling at the time of reporting.

I've reported bugs in the past and seen nothing done about them for many versions, not until the stars align and an admin with any level of responsibility shows up and decides that this is their moment, their time to shine...this will be the hour they actually attempt to do their job, investigate something and fix it. This is a respectable effort, thought it is more often than not replaced with a half arsed, 'we'll look into it', or a much more reliable, 'we'll pass that information along'. And then there are these times where someone clearly hasn't been paying attention to the game for the last year or so, whips out their Barafranca punishment flowchart without any context whatsoever and decides to make the entire crew look like amateurish arseholes.

As much as you might want to believe it's because you're Lusa, it isn't. It's fundamentally more broken than that. It's laziness, it's a lack of understanding of the game they're in charge of, it's a lack of attention and most importantly it's an incorrect attitude towards the players.


+1

thats why we have to forget our enemies and unite as omerta players to fight situations like this.

btw, who the fuck is xipz0r LOL
Grigoriy Portugal (19:43:03 - 05-12)
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Redvendetta at 19:38:10 on 05/12:
Grigoriy at 19:15:20 on 05/12:
Vendetta at 19:13:22 on 05/12:
MrT at 19:05:04 on 05/12:
"It was reported already in the 4.0 version.

Even this version, in the second war, one of my members went to #help, and reported that a Capodecina was famless, and still Capodecina. What happend? - Nothing, he wasnt Lusa."

IF that is true, then i really think you should make that public, so that everybody can see it. Everybody hust want the truth, nothing more. I dont call Lusa cheaters, and if it really is 100% the crews own fault, then i think everyone likes to know that.

This was on monday morning!

(11:30:43) 07(15Vendetta07) 1 easy question
(11:30:43) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Please take note that I use anti-idle, and my idle time will always be less then 15 seconds. :::
(11:30:43) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Please give me a few minutes to answer or write me a mail to: (). Thank you. :::
(11:30:44) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Active Queries: (3). If this number is higher then 5 expect a long delay before I answer :::
(11:30:44) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: This is not a pm-blocker, but an information screen and your number 906! :::
(11:30:54) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok
(11:31:05) 07(15Vendetta07) what the fuck is wrong with this game...
(11:31:18) 07(15Vendetta07) yesterday 1 family went down
(11:31:28) 07(15Vendetta07) and one of his members stayed decina
(11:31:37) 07(15Vendetta07) and was even able to join other family
(11:31:40) 07(15Vendetta07) today
(11:31:42) 15o15 Can't join 07#help15, because you're banned! (07mode +b15)
(11:31:42) 15-07ChanServ15- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
(11:31:50) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ingame ?
(11:31:58) 07(15Vendetta07) he is dead now
(11:31:59) 07(15Vendetta07) ...
(11:32:03) 07(15Vendetta07) today 5 decinas
(11:32:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) well if he was capo/spot owner and fam goed down he Stays CD until he gains RP
(11:32:11) 07(15Vendetta07) get demoted even before they go online
(11:32:13) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if he doesnt rank he wil not demote
(11:32:23) 07(15Vendetta07) yes I understand that
(11:32:25) 07(15Vendetta07) but just now
(11:32:29) 07(15Vendetta07) 5 decinas of my fam
(11:32:31) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) yes those decenas might have lackeys on ?
(11:32:33) 07(15Vendetta07) got demoted offline
(11:32:40) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) rp = rp manual or lackeys
(11:33:11) 07(15Vendetta07) lackeys offline dont make you demote sry
(11:33:12) 07(15Vendetta07) ....
(11:33:34) 07(15Vendetta07) learn that shooting saturday
(11:36:04) 07(15Vendetta07) ? Xipz0r^atwrk
(11:36:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ?
(11:36:21) 07(15Vendetta07) no comment on this? xd
(11:36:28) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) [12:33] <Vendetta> learn that shooting saturday <--
(11:36:30) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) dont get it ?
(11:36:44) 07(15Vendetta07) If you stay offline even with lackeys
(11:36:52) 07(15Vendetta07) you will stay decina
(11:37:00) 07(15Vendetta07) until you come online
(11:37:02) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if you say so i think otherwise
(11:37:10) 07(15Vendetta07) account offline 5 hours
(11:37:16) 07(15Vendetta07) are not with lackyes off xd
(11:37:30) 07(15Vendetta07) and yet they were decinas
(11:37:53) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok and what is the problem / question ?
(11:38:08) 07(15Vendetta07) why did members of my family went demoted
(11:38:11) 07(15Vendetta07) even offline
(11:38:24) 07(15Vendetta07) when this didint happen to any other family?
(11:38:42) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) i cant see or check that


Moral of the story:

When Lusa reports = who cares.
When Lusa is reported = Akill/ cheaters/ abusers.

Seems legit.

Incorrect. Although this wave of bug abuse is clearly a crock of turd to anyone who knows anything about Omerta, both in regards to it being a bug (it isn't) and in regards to it being abused (it wasn't). The determining factor in deciding whether or not something which is reported gets looked into is based on a vast array of circumstances. Unfortunately for the players, the primary, and most important component when deciding upon the validity of a complaint is usually how a particular admin is feeling at the time of reporting.

I've reported bugs in the past and seen nothing done about them for many versions, not until the stars align and an admin with any level of responsibility shows up and decides that this is their moment, their time to shine...this will be the hour they actually attempt to do their job, investigate something and fix it. This is a respectable effort, thought it is more often than not replaced with a half arsed, 'we'll look into it', or a much more reliable, 'we'll pass that information along'. And then there are these times where someone clearly hasn't been paying attention to the game for the last year or so, whips out their Barafranca punishment flowchart without any context whatsoever and decides to make the entire crew look like amateurish arseholes.

As much as you might want to believe it's because you're Lusa, it isn't. It's fundamentally more broken than that. It's laziness, it's a lack of understanding of the game they're in charge of, it's a lack of attention and most importantly it's an incorrect attitude towards the players.



So why didnt they waited till the end of the version?
Version was done already, everyone played in same circumstances. How can we do not think it isnt a Lusa's thing, when the only accounts that got akilled by trades were in Lusa, and when something like this happens when version is pretty much done?!
Redvendetta (19:38:10 - 05-12)
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Grigoriy at 19:15:20 on 05/12:
Vendetta at 19:13:22 on 05/12:
MrT at 19:05:04 on 05/12:
"It was reported already in the 4.0 version.

Even this version, in the second war, one of my members went to #help, and reported that a Capodecina was famless, and still Capodecina. What happend? - Nothing, he wasnt Lusa."

IF that is true, then i really think you should make that public, so that everybody can see it. Everybody hust want the truth, nothing more. I dont call Lusa cheaters, and if it really is 100% the crews own fault, then i think everyone likes to know that.

This was on monday morning!

(11:30:43) 07(15Vendetta07) 1 easy question
(11:30:43) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Please take note that I use anti-idle, and my idle time will always be less then 15 seconds. :::
(11:30:43) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Please give me a few minutes to answer or write me a mail to: (). Thank you. :::
(11:30:44) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: Active Queries: (3). If this number is higher then 5 expect a long delay before I answer :::
(11:30:44) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ::: This is not a pm-blocker, but an information screen and your number 906! :::
(11:30:54) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok
(11:31:05) 07(15Vendetta07) what the fuck is wrong with this game...
(11:31:18) 07(15Vendetta07) yesterday 1 family went down
(11:31:28) 07(15Vendetta07) and one of his members stayed decina
(11:31:37) 07(15Vendetta07) and was even able to join other family
(11:31:40) 07(15Vendetta07) today
(11:31:42) 15o15 Can't join 07#help15, because you're banned! (07mode +b15)
(11:31:42) 15-07ChanServ15- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
(11:31:50) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ingame ?
(11:31:58) 07(15Vendetta07) he is dead now
(11:31:59) 07(15Vendetta07) ...
(11:32:03) 07(15Vendetta07) today 5 decinas
(11:32:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) well if he was capo/spot owner and fam goed down he Stays CD until he gains RP
(11:32:11) 07(15Vendetta07) get demoted even before they go online
(11:32:13) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if he doesnt rank he wil not demote
(11:32:23) 07(15Vendetta07) yes I understand that
(11:32:25) 07(15Vendetta07) but just now
(11:32:29) 07(15Vendetta07) 5 decinas of my fam
(11:32:31) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) yes those decenas might have lackeys on ?
(11:32:33) 07(15Vendetta07) got demoted offline
(11:32:40) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) rp = rp manual or lackeys
(11:33:11) 07(15Vendetta07) lackeys offline dont make you demote sry
(11:33:12) 07(15Vendetta07) ....
(11:33:34) 07(15Vendetta07) learn that shooting saturday
(11:36:04) 07(15Vendetta07) ? Xipz0r^atwrk
(11:36:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ?
(11:36:21) 07(15Vendetta07) no comment on this? xd
(11:36:28) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) [12:33] <Vendetta> learn that shooting saturday <--
(11:36:30) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) dont get it ?
(11:36:44) 07(15Vendetta07) If you stay offline even with lackeys
(11:36:52) 07(15Vendetta07) you will stay decina
(11:37:00) 07(15Vendetta07) until you come online
(11:37:02) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if you say so i think otherwise
(11:37:10) 07(15Vendetta07) account offline 5 hours
(11:37:16) 07(15Vendetta07) are not with lackyes off xd
(11:37:30) 07(15Vendetta07) and yet they were decinas
(11:37:53) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok and what is the problem / question ?
(11:38:08) 07(15Vendetta07) why did members of my family went demoted
(11:38:11) 07(15Vendetta07) even offline
(11:38:24) 07(15Vendetta07) when this didint happen to any other family?
(11:38:42) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) i cant see or check that


Moral of the story:

When Lusa reports = who cares.
When Lusa is reported = Akill/ cheaters/ abusers.

Seems legit.

Incorrect. Although this wave of bug abuse is clearly a crock of turd to anyone who knows anything about Omerta, both in regards to it being a bug (it isn't) and in regards to it being abused (it wasn't). The determining factor in deciding whether or not something which is reported gets looked into is based on a vast array of circumstances. Unfortunately for the players, the primary, and most important component when deciding upon the validity of a complaint is usually how a particular admin is feeling at the time of reporting.

I've reported bugs in the past and seen nothing done about them for many versions, not until the stars align and an admin with any level of responsibility shows up and decides that this is their moment, their time to shine...this will be the hour they actually attempt to do their job, investigate something and fix it. This is a respectable effort, thought it is more often than not replaced with a half arsed, 'we'll look into it', or a much more reliable, 'we'll pass that information along'. And then there are these times where someone clearly hasn't been paying attention to the game for the last year or so, whips out their Barafranca punishment flowchart without any context whatsoever and decides to make the entire crew look like amateurish arseholes.

As much as you might want to believe it's because you're Lusa, it isn't. It's fundamentally more broken than that. It's laziness, it's a lack of understanding of the game they're in charge of, it's a lack of attention and most importantly it's an incorrect attitude towards the players.

Grigoriy Portugal (19:31:52 - 05-12)
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Anonymous at 19:23:02 on 05/12:
2-3 days ago all Lusa and the rest of the pact members were having quite fun time here. Laughing their asses off to people who call them cheaters and stuff. Now who's the crying baby? You gonna do what's needed. Not every people who do the same crime gets the same punishment from the government. But it's still a crime that needs to be punished. I feel happy to see you cheaters cry now ;)


They had reasons to be happy, unless you cant understand Omerta and see for all they exceeded. I figure you are one of those who died, cas it was too weak.
As your low mentality shows, you are happy with something that deep inside you see its unfair. But who cares, since they are dead, its all that matters.

Next version you'll prolly cry some more.

Keep anonymous.
Nuke United States (19:27:41 - 05-12)
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Grigoriy at 19:21:49 on 05/12:
Nuke at 19:16:36 on 05/12:
Grigoriy at 19:04:01 on 05/12:

Once again, you are trying to use your rhetoric skills... If you don't have nothing to say that realy makes sense, its better to shut up.

Idc if you are anti-pact, or if you arent my friend. Usually I respect my enemies, and you have a few proofs about it. I prefer to kill my enemies in war, than use schemes and shit, and try to have advantage about the situation.

Lusa being dead might be a victory to you, but it wasnt because your war strategies.

Oh.. I thought we killed everyone except the CD's and GF. My bad. Why was the don admin killed again?


The don and the sotto were killed because they were the ones who were constantly changing the capo regimes.

You killed our low accounts, those who werent on top 50. Some high brugs manage to survive.
But guess what, we killed all your decinas, almost all at the first shot. Yes, even being attacked hard with a ratio 3:1 orso...

Its easy to kill low accounts when you have a lot of shoters. It would have been possible to kill our high accounts either - as decinas or not - but its not up to me to teach you how its done...
I'm affraid that having good skills on rhetoric its all you can achive on Omerta.

While I appreciate your praise on my rhetoric, I disagree on the skills part. I'm not the best player in this game, but I'm pretty good. If relying on another account's production is your idea of skills, then leave me out of it. If you're one who can build a top 20 account just by what you can produce with your own account, then congratulations - You're the same as me.
Anonymous (19:23:02 - 05-12)
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2-3 days ago all Lusa and the rest of the pact members were having quite fun time here. Laughing their asses off to people who call them cheaters and stuff. Now who's the crying baby? You gonna do what's needed. Not every people who do the same crime gets the same punishment from the government. But it's still a crime that needs to be punished. I feel happy to see you cheaters cry now ;)
Grigoriy Portugal (19:21:49 - 05-12)
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Nuke at 19:16:36 on 05/12:
Grigoriy at 19:04:01 on 05/12:

Once again, you are trying to use your rhetoric skills... If you don't have nothing to say that realy makes sense, its better to shut up.

Idc if you are anti-pact, or if you arent my friend. Usually I respect my enemies, and you have a few proofs about it. I prefer to kill my enemies in war, than use schemes and shit, and try to have advantage about the situation.

Lusa being dead might be a victory to you, but it wasnt because your war strategies.

Oh.. I thought we killed everyone except the CD's and GF. My bad. Why was the don admin killed again?


The don and the sotto were killed because they were the ones who were constantly changing the capo regimes.

You killed our low accounts, those who werent on top 50. Some high brugs manage to survive.
But guess what, we killed all your decinas, almost all at the first shot. Yes, even being attacked hard with a ratio 3:1 orso...

Its easy to kill low accounts when you have a lot of shoters. It would have been possible to kill our high accounts either - as decinas or not - but its not up to me to teach you how its done...
I'm affraid that having good skills on rhetoric its all you can achive on Omerta.
sTrOb Portugal (19:21:48 - 05-12)
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i think solution is to let this version last until admins fix all major bugs and find a solution for dupers, pushers, money trades, stop giving advantage to offline accounts, update wiki with all information about rules, etc...

Then i think next version can be called new version... and maybe more players will come...and maybe with all those old/new players that would come would be possible to ban lackeys also since more players means more money to support the game...

this is a constructive post with the intention to start gathering all good ideias from ppl around (enemies or not) that like to play this game so please avoid to call me n00b (wich everyone knows i am already :p).

lets help admins to make this game better so we all can have more fun and not quit.

...yeah i like to pretend im naif :')

...put hate 6 feet under just for this time and lets try to make this happen ok? we all like the game and want to see it better.

Respect o//

rafaz Portugal (19:21:37 - 05-12)
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join UNFAIR CREW ...
dont ignore tomorrow it might be you!

#unfair-crew
MrT (19:19:54 - 05-12)
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I see your point, i really do. If ppl says its already fixed now (the "bug"), then i dont understand why they didnt take action when you msg them monday morning. Seems like the crew got something to explain. Wich they probably wont..
Johnx Denmark (19:17:42 - 05-12)
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Nuke at 19:16:36 on 05/12:
Grigoriy at 19:04:01 on 05/12:

Lusa being dead might be a victory to you, but it wasnt because your war strategies.

Oh.. I thought we killed everyone except the CD's and GF. My bad. Why was the don admin killed again?
because admins decides to change rules midversion, and screw up yet again
Nuke United States (19:16:36 - 05-12)
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Grigoriy at 19:04:01 on 05/12:

Lusa being dead might be a victory to you, but it wasnt because your war strategies.

Oh.. I thought we killed everyone except the CD's and GF. My bad. Why was the don admin killed again?

Grigoriy at 19:15:20 on 05/12:

Moral of the story:

When Lusa reports = who cares.
When Lusa is reported = Akill/ cheaters/ abusers.

Seems legit.

I'd have to say majority ruled on this one. It seems enough people had a problem with it that something happened. Is everyone who is trying to make Lusa into a lone victim drinking the same Cool-Aid?

Last week, the defense was "we're not cheating because we haven't been admin killed". This week, it's "we got admin killed even though we were not cheating".

That's contradicting.
Grigoriy Portugal (19:15:20 - 05-12)
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Vendetta at 19:13:22 on 05/12:
MrT at 19:05:04 on 05/12:
"It was reported already in the 4.0 version.

Even this version, in the second war, one of my members went to #help, and reported that a Capodecina was famless, and still Capodecina. What happend? - Nothing, he wasnt Lusa."

IF that is true, then i really think you should make that public, so that everybody can see it. Everybody hust want the truth, nothing more. I dont call Lusa cheaters, and if it really is 100% the crews own fault, then i think everyone likes to know that.

This was on monday morning!

(11:30:43) 07(15Vendetta07) 1 easy question
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(11:30:54) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok
(11:31:05) 07(15Vendetta07) what the fuck is wrong with this game...
(11:31:18) 07(15Vendetta07) yesterday 1 family went down
(11:31:28) 07(15Vendetta07) and one of his members stayed decina
(11:31:37) 07(15Vendetta07) and was even able to join other family
(11:31:40) 07(15Vendetta07) today
(11:31:42) 15o15 Can't join 07#help15, because you're banned! (07mode +b15)
(11:31:42) 15-07ChanServ15- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
(11:31:50) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ingame ?
(11:31:58) 07(15Vendetta07) he is dead now
(11:31:59) 07(15Vendetta07) ...
(11:32:03) 07(15Vendetta07) today 5 decinas
(11:32:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) well if he was capo/spot owner and fam goed down he Stays CD until he gains RP
(11:32:11) 07(15Vendetta07) get demoted even before they go online
(11:32:13) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if he doesnt rank he wil not demote
(11:32:23) 07(15Vendetta07) yes I understand that
(11:32:25) 07(15Vendetta07) but just now
(11:32:29) 07(15Vendetta07) 5 decinas of my fam
(11:32:31) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) yes those decenas might have lackeys on ?
(11:32:33) 07(15Vendetta07) got demoted offline
(11:32:40) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) rp = rp manual or lackeys
(11:33:11) 07(15Vendetta07) lackeys offline dont make you demote sry
(11:33:12) 07(15Vendetta07) ....
(11:33:34) 07(15Vendetta07) learn that shooting saturday
(11:36:04) 07(15Vendetta07) ? Xipz0r^atwrk
(11:36:09) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ?
(11:36:21) 07(15Vendetta07) no comment on this? xd
(11:36:28) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) [12:33] <Vendetta> learn that shooting saturday <--
(11:36:30) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) dont get it ?
(11:36:44) 07(15Vendetta07) If you stay offline even with lackeys
(11:36:52) 07(15Vendetta07) you will stay decina
(11:37:00) 07(15Vendetta07) until you come online
(11:37:02) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) if you say so i think otherwise
(11:37:10) 07(15Vendetta07) account offline 5 hours
(11:37:16) 07(15Vendetta07) are not with lackyes off xd
(11:37:30) 07(15Vendetta07) and yet they were decinas
(11:37:53) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) ok and what is the problem / question ?
(11:38:08) 07(15Vendetta07) why did members of my family went demoted
(11:38:11) 07(15Vendetta07) even offline
(11:38:24) 07(15Vendetta07) when this didint happen to any other family?
(11:38:42) 07(14Xipz0r^atwrk07) i cant see or check that


Moral of the story:

When Lusa reports = who cares.
When Lusa is reported = Akill/ cheaters/ abusers.

Seems legit.