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05-12 The Punishment
Author: mmm
Last updated: 3422d 0h 11m 20s ago by mmm
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Version: 4.7.1
Involved families: Lusa, Tijuana
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The Lusa family just got taken down after it's Don (and sotto who tried an escape to Tijana) got a-killed.

Many people are questioning the motives behind this a-kill, one of the admins had the following to say:

Ascii is not killed due to personal account abused, he found a bug in the system so his capos benefitted of it
that's why he got an akill, we will not revive the accounts he killed but we will discuss a compensation otherwise


Also some CD's (maybe all of them) from Lusa got demoted to Local Chief, so these accounts took advantage of the bug as well. The bug supposedly is used by more than just Lusa, it's just the fact that the CD's haven't demoted to Bruglione when having an empty regime, since they didn't do any manual action. Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive.

The official revive rule states that people will only get revived if they have been killed within 3 days before the a-kill of their shooter, which for many of the gangsters comes too late.

How do you feel about this? Should the revive policy need a review? Should the person that fired over 2,5 million bullets and devestated so many accounts get a different punishment?

Comment below!


Update:

Prophecy also falls victim to the same bug abuse as it's don got akilled some hours later.
statistics
War started on: 11:18:05 05-12-2014 War ended on: 12:25:03 05-12-2014
Bullet difference: -199,152 War duration: 1h 6m
Money difference: -$77,461,349 Players died: 3




deaths
Dead Families:
[Lusa] Family down on 11:21 05-12
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Lusa | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 34
Tijuana | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 5
Total | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 39
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Anonymous (13:23:04 - 05-12)
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Goodbye stupid game, goodbye stupid admins.


Audiowaste Netherlands (13:18:28 - 05-12)
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Killerzzz at 13:11:30 on 05/12:
there is actually a difference between a famless CD who is offline and a CD who gets promoted each time and then move on a regime.

A famless CD would have to travel to kill which means he would demote and there wouldnt be a change to make him CD again by moving regimes around and stay offline again just for account strenght and thats a huge difference
There is no difference between that.
A famless CD, even when offline, doesn't meet the requirements to be CD and therefore he should demote as well.

Solstice (13:15:42 - 05-12)
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Killerzzz at 13:11:30 on 05/12:
rafaz at 12:52:32 on 05/12:
There is a difference between a buse abuse and a trick that the game provides for those who need it. It's not hidden. In the 2nd war, many capodecinas were famless because they didn't come online after their family was down. Was that a bug? Of course not. Imagine that I am a capo and I am afk for a week my family gets shoted, i lose my strength... but I stay CDC. I'm a bug abuser now?
I think crew didn't understand that we had this organization strategy because we saw that it worked in the 2nd war.

there is actually a difference between a famless CD who is offline and a CD who gets promoted each time and then move on a regime.

A famless CD would have to travel to kill which means he would demote and there wouldnt be a change to make him CD again by moving regimes around and stay offline again just for account strenght and thats a huge difference

There is a difference yeh, the latter is slightly smarter. It's not morally better to just stay offline to keep your cdc-status tho, as opposed to that. You can blame the developers for not fixing that stuff in the first place. As for Bramble, very faulty people deliver very faulty games i suppose.
Killerzzz Netherlands (13:11:30 - 05-12)
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rafaz at 12:52:32 on 05/12:
There is a difference between a buse abuse and a trick that the game provides for those who need it. It's not hidden. In the 2nd war, many capodecinas were famless because they didn't come online after their family was down. Was that a bug? Of course not. Imagine that I am a capo and I am afk for a week my family gets shoted, i lose my strength... but I stay CDC. I'm a bug abuser now?
I think crew didn't understand that we had this organization strategy because we saw that it worked in the 2nd war.

there is actually a difference between a famless CD who is offline and a CD who gets promoted each time and then move on a regime.

A famless CD would have to travel to kill which means he would demote and there wouldnt be a change to make him CD again by moving regimes around and stay offline again just for account strenght and thats a huge difference
cdc Freakshow (13:09:44 - 05-12)
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LOl, if these bitchez are so cowardish that they stay off and stay cdc even if the are famless and/or dont have enough strenght i think its very justified to akill/punish them because they abuse a bug and are big fat bitchezzz

#lusa #FAIL muahahahahahahahaha
Anonymous (13:09:36 - 05-12)
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fair akills imo, prophecy and kuro have to be checked as well
Anonymous (13:07:49 - 05-12)
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rafaz cry now idiot! you have no reason so stfu, why you should have advantage...cry me a riveeeeeeeer! Kcode cant help you now han? shame on..
Solstice (13:02:27 - 05-12)
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Killerzzz at 12:56:32 on 05/12:
well to be honest most GF/CDs were killed before they lost all regime strength wasnt well into the war till we started shooting down the regimes it wasnt till after the war they abused the regime thing and stayed offline to stay CD so admins not reviving alot (how happy id be to see alot of these guys revived) from a neutral point of view no revives is actually justified at this point.

people who deserve to be revived are the persons shot after regime power was lost, also i think admins need to compensate on bullets wasted on these accounts after regime change that would be fair

Every family "abused" this flaw in the system. If you wanna compensate everyone that lost bullets or accounts due to this you're gonna be busy well into next version to figure that shit out. I don't really get this shameless bias from admins tbh.
Anonymous (13:01:10 - 05-12)
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Well played admins. Wait till the bulk of the shooting is done. Then do the Akills so the 3 day rule comes into effect and no one gets revived.
steez Netherlands (12:58:15 - 05-12)
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rafaz at 12:52:32 on 05/12:
Apparently Lusa got akilled by Spot Abuse, because they had Capodecinas with 0 strength who didn't do a crime to demote. Bug or a trick? Capos were losing a lot of money by never touching their accounts, just to keep the family alive.
There is a difference between a buse abuse and a trick that the game provides for those who need it. It's not hidden. In the 2nd war, many capodecinas were famless because they didn't come online after their family was down. Was that a bug? Of course not. Imagine that I am a capo and I am afk for a week my family gets shoted, i lose my strength... but I stay CDC. I'm a bug abuser now?
I think crew didn't understand that we had this organization strategy because we saw that it worked in the 2nd war.

The question is: if the crew didn't do anything after we report the CDC famless in the 2nd war, why would they akill us all now?
Instead of fixing the "bug" (lol), making users demote at the time they lose strength, they rather akill the #1 shooting family of this version!

RIP Lusa, hard to say this but RIP .com, your end is just begining :D

no hard feelings!

See, you do know how to phrase words nicely :')
Anonymous (12:57:36 - 05-12)
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just fix the game.. don't give akill to people who feed you..
Killerzzz Netherlands (12:56:32 - 05-12)
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well to be honest most GF/CDs were killed before they lost all regime strength wasnt well into the war till we started shooting down the regimes it wasnt till after the war they abused the regime thing and stayed offline to stay CD so admins not reviving alot (how happy id be to see alot of these guys revived) from a neutral point of view no revives is actually justified at this point.

people who deserve to be revived are the persons shot after regime power was lost, also i think admins need to compensate on bullets wasted on these accounts after regime change that would be fair
Vaas Netherlands (12:53:07 - 05-12)
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Everyone "used" this since CD's and regimestrength were introduced.
Is this even bug abuse? :')
rafaz Portugal (12:52:32 - 05-12)
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Apparently Lusa got akilled by Spot Abuse, because they had Capodecinas with 0 strength who didn't do a crime to demote. Bug or a trick? Capos were losing a lot of money by never touching their accounts, just to keep the family alive.
There is a difference between a buse abuse and a trick that the game provides for those who need it. It's not hidden. In the 2nd war, many capodecinas were famless because they didn't come online after their family was down. Was that a bug? Of course not. Imagine that I am a capo and I am afk for a week my family gets shoted, i lose my strength... but I stay CDC. I'm a bug abuser now?
I think crew didn't understand that we had this organization strategy because we saw that it worked in the 2nd war.

The question is: if the crew didn't do anything after we report the CDC famless in the 2nd war, why would they akill us all now?
Instead of fixing the "bug" (lol), making users demote at the time they lose strength, they rather akill the #1 shooting family of this version!

RIP Lusa, hard to say this but RIP .com, your end is just begining :D

no hard feelings!
Anonymous (12:51:41 - 05-12)
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So... the admins waited 3/4 days to take action so no revives were made available...

That is not proper conduct.

So called 'fair kills' were actioned by abusers. Where is the justice here.
slackk (12:50:13 - 05-12)
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i didnt deserve this :) anyway gl omerta im retired from now
Critycal Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Patron (12:49:06 - 05-12)
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How do you feel about this? Should the revive policy need a review? Should the person that fired over 2,5 million bullets and devestated so many accounts get a different punishment?

Oh come on.
I've faced dozens of families abusing this trick ever since the CD's made their return.
A bit odd perhaps that they only akill Lusa for this, whilst I've seen plenty of other fams (even this version) abusing(?) the same trick.

Also, if they are too lazy to check for regime strength every time there's a change in the regimes ever since they got introduced over a year ago, is Lusa the one to blame?
skank (12:48:20 - 05-12)
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cheaters n00bsss
Anonymous (12:47:28 - 05-12)
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I call seconds!
Anonymous (12:47:17 - 05-12)
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Finally :)