Wait, you're saying that people need to learn a technique that is not incorporated into the game's design to compete? You're full of shit.

A cheat is a cheat because it is not fair to everyone. There is no faq or trial and error to teach the ability to create more accounts than actual members, so why do you support this? Your reasoning is suspicious, to say the least.

Of all the problems in Omerta, the activity thing was the least of them. I was glad that my lackeys actually did what I payed for.

All I see is a bad player, and a worst top complaining...
When we blooded Aristo, Sib, Cali and Janni, they were the #2, #4, #11, and #15.
Perhaps if you use the money that you and your tops spend on poker, to buy bullets, you could have top player accounts aswell as those fams.
Plus, you are retired (at least its what you always show on your profile), what are you complaning about?
You have done your Lusa's kill this version, and showed it with pride on your profile. Your version was already awesome, so, dont complain.

Seems u are excited aint u? Maybe its true that u had 4 bloods, but the problem is that those 4 bloods were one of the most strongest, Siberia[3]/Aristocrats[2]/Caliente[6/7]&Janni[10] (not sure with the numbers tho).
Seeing that Aeterna went down those guys joined u which makes another top5 family being part of u or ur family to be correct.
And seeing that only Lusa/Aristocrats&Siberia had the 75% of top20 players since the start, some already knew the ending, including me(which lead me to suicide), and when u guys blooded eachother it was over for sure.
in the other place, Aristocrats were ruleing Salvato [cuz when they got asked to shoot, against the one that shoot them in last war, they said no cause we can't do that against Aristo's blood or whatever], which add's another top10 on ur collection.

Short: Only people from Aristo/Siberia and Lusa played on this version(seeing the playerbase overall and just of those 3fams, then they went together = 2wars bye bye version, since there were no force to wipe them out they cleaned all the fams 1by1 xD.
THE ONLY PROBLEM, WE GOT IN THIS NEW OMERTA VERSIONS IS,
"MORE SMART MAFIANS", THAN "MORE MAFIANS WITH BALLS". ;w

Oh yeah it's mcgee again.

Hey tops of omerta, with limited people playing these days do you really need dupes and to blood other large families again? You guys afraid of breaking up and focus more on yourself like a real gangster and make the game spirit alive? Is the game about bullet shots and kills now. Members of your families are happy with 3 brug kills amongst their fellow 500 brugs who will be ending the version? Shit is ridiculous.

If I make a family In the future don't come asking me to be bloods fuck that!
Omerta without bloods a dream me and a few fellow very old skool provenzano tops believed in.

Back to drawing boobs on my bedroom wall...

The people who refuse to use bugs/dupe/rerank in large pact families/not spend more than 25 dollars on a account/and still had fun shooting won?

Wow not many around I'm refering to... Must be no merit left in this game no more.

Nice to see limited families ending the version this is much better but yet why do so many members settle in large families who are pacted to others and not try establishing their own families to keep the version going?
Maybe because they don't roleplay? There is still a large amount of highranks in these families and it's easy to be brug.

Thanks for reading I think terencino fam and vincentg fam won the version since they didn't have hardly any Akills and they have real players not so much dupe base heads who'd get assraped in prison.

-mcgee

SO IS OMERTA GONNA BE ON STEAM OR WHAT? (not the shitty 2d game pls)

Bruinsma who ?

share your shit with Aart, he is not dane but boon enough to be on same page with you.

That was because of the fact that CD was third-party software that injected into the game.
This wasn't allowed because cheats use similar methods to hook themselves into the game aswell.
Also, Cheating-Death was easier to pass than VAC. It only checked for a few specific
Also, VAC bans are always delayed, it's not just to profit more. This has several reasons. 1 of them is that they want to make sure that people don't get banned by mistake (false detections for instance), and a second one is that they don't want cheat developers to be able to do the "trial and error" method on bypassing VAC.
Else you could just keep trying to bypass it until VAC doesn't detect it anymore. If a bypassing method like this leaks it would make it even easier to cheat without getting banned. Also, whenever a cheat gets detected, cheat developers could easily report it as being detected which would save a lot of cheaters asses.

Well, we can't say it was a good version. That activity thing, fucked up a little. Players ranked too fast, maked too much money, there was a lot of brugs... and all this in 2/3 weeks.
After the first war, everyone saw that version would be fast, since from there, all fams would try their chances; thats how mafia game is.
With that said, I think those fams that ended up, are the winners.

I didn't saw it as a pact - but as bloods.
All those fams had other bloods themselfs, and tryed to make their own game with them.. but ofc, when you make a move, you have too expect a move from others aswell. We (Lusa) have lost Jannisary aswell, sadly. But we made our game, just with 4 bloods from beggining. I dont think we are the cause for a blocking game, or a fast version.

I always see people complaining about this ends, but I've saw ends with 15 fams or more... and each time we have won, only 5 fams (maximum) ended. (we have done it with only 3 - that must be a record!). For .COM version its good.

I guess that average of brugs+ that are alive, its like less then 20%.

For those who say we have dupes, you can also ask for a invite, and join our members chan, for a chat with our dupes - we have a rule here, every dupe must have a IRC nick with it!

Those who claim that they are still 600+ players on those fams alive, are sleeping. The playerbase of those fams are 50% of that...
I personally think its a shame, and sad. Or even disrespectfull... but thats the game we have, and now everyone is massivly inviting for #1 vouchers, and Hall of Fame.

There are other ways to have Fame, a good Fame. Other ways that matter. Perhaps you'll not be in the "Hall of Fame", but I'm sure you'll be in the "heart" of those fams you stand for.

My point is, its easy to win the #1 position, and the Hall of Fame. We have examples in the paste (recent past), that shows us how it can be done, but is that all that matters now?
If its so, Omerta can settle a rule, where only 1 fams ends.

Too sad to see this ending.

Actually Valve in CS 1.6 time (with transition to Steam), killed all the anti-cheats software (Cheating-Death) and didn't allow many other to start in order to control the Cheats totally (VAC was introduced) meanwhile VAC was letting all cheats to pass and from one day to other, they would ban thousands of accounts in order to profit more, but yeah, I understand what you mean.

I have friends as tops in this fam so i didnt want to sell out.


thanks for mentioning 1.2m second time, i had plenty good DC stock after not playing 2 versions. my company pays phone bills so dont start to bitch about spent money


Yea i'm Venture, since game shrinked lots of families joined up, like gravano playing in caliente this vers. i don't see anything wierd with this.

I get what you're saying, but I'm not a fan of ignoring problems by simply refusing to talk openly about what's going on. I believe the amount of cheating in a community is something that follows the same rules as crime with regard to the broken windows theory, meaning once you start slacking on enforcement, your community will get worse and worse. Look at how much effort companies like Valve are putting into their cheat detection systems (and compare that to, say, the publisher of Call of Duty - guess who attracts more cheaters). So no, I do not believe the crew can blame the players for this situation.

Besides, anyone who knows me will know that I'm not a good example for anyone. :z

I know exactly what you're saying, and things may never change with this game, 10 years have passed and same outcrys come and go.

But if you, who holds the strings of a big family and are seen as an example for some players keep giving up to fair-play and start instigating the 'cheat harder than others' into the followers then you're diging even deeper the game's grave in my modest opinion. Imagine all the tops of all big fams start to use the same thinking? Wich isn't far from the reality right now, ones more than others. Isn't that one of the motives people are leaving the game?

Sometimes I believe Brando is quiet right, why wasting enffort in a orientated cheat comunity? Let's just put the lackeys runing and split the profit of what's left with the script owners and bug sellers and wait for the final ending or a change in the comunity mentality.

props

I'm saying it's a vicious circle you get dragged into if you want to stay competitive (unless you want to spend a lot of money on DCs or have some insane luck at gambling).

What I'm saying is if you do it, don't cry about the consequences. It's your own choice. Just be careful about the consequences for other players if you're in a top position, because that's on you as well (I've learnt that lesson, thanks.)

I don't know where you've read the part about me being proud about that. It's just a fact in this game, I'm sorry if you don't see it that way. I've done plenty to get rid of cheaters in this game, but as long as nothing gets done against people who're so very obviously cheating, I won't blame anyone for going down that path, it's their choice and they have to take the consequences.

As long as the enforcement of the rules is as sloppy as it is now (it has gotten better this version, but that's just because we're used to basically no enforcement at all), and there are no major game-play updates, I don't see how this is going to change anytime soon. Explain to me how it makes sense that I, as a very active player with usually around 50% ontime, can make - if I try very hard - probably less than 20% more money than a lackey dupe with 1% ontime. And that's something that has gotten even worse in recent versions due to the removal of most of the spots and activity. So obviously a lot of people will turn to cheating given that problem (be it dupes or money bugs). Give fair and active players a chance to gain a financial advantage and I'll be glad to join your outcry against cheaters.

What a rotten way of thinking MurderInc, since the others cheat you gotta cheat harder to be on top? And the worst part is you admiting that proundly. Sad...

I don't see how it was unfair? There were a few related akills in other fams too, just no dons, so Aeterna was the only one to go down. Now obviously other fams have other bugs, but until those bugs have been found, there's no reason to punish anyone. Of course it's a catch-22 situation - you have to cheat to keep up because everyone else does - but that's the risk you chose to take, so deal with it (trust me, I know how that works. :z).

We've had polls like this in the past when there was no obvious winner. I would say that's true this time as well, depending on how you think a winner should be chosen (Lusa, Siberia and Aristocrats have shot pretty much in the same number of wars and their famstrength is between 2k and 2.1k).

After aeterna akilled unfair ( unfair cos only they got akill like no others used that bug ) ur family pacted yeah but u always had a chance to leave your family if u didnt like that mean u agreed with them and kept playing . So its bullshit that u blame on it .
The difference between 3.3 and now is that time other families always had chance to kill pact but they waited other do the job . Now there was no chance since ur family blooded %50+ of the game . And only family who pacted this version was Aristo who already pact inside even (Xzone+Venture+Presidental+Ilimitada ) . Lusa etc played their normal game with less bloods under stress .
So in ur post i only see the commercial of urs 1.2m bullets shot .Seem u didnt get catch this version by ur cheated playing . Grats .

Dunnow why its necessary to open this " who won ? " topic also since u guys didnt open it lately seem ur friends ended up this version . It is clear that Aeterna won the version w/e has happened . Because i only see Aeterna + their bloods alive . The rest sold out or lost half of their bloods after they used them or they couldnt save them againts their bloods . Lusa deserve being #1 cos they didnt blood most of families so they had more risk on