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11-02 Struggle for the top, part 2?
Author: sbanks
Last updated: 3696d 4h 29m 10s ago by Aart
Comments: 158
Views: 59,019
Votes: 2 (5 average)
Version: 4.5
Involved families: Andalusia, Ascension, Liggio, Pentagram, Persico, Gambino, Lucchese, Lusa, Righelli, Templari
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After days of rumours and talks in the barafranca world, Pentagram+ and Persico decided to try to finish what they started in the first war.

Pentagram+ & Persico → Lucchese

The war is going slow and the attackers are suffering a lot of backfire kills so far.

Meanwhile Liggio & Ascension started their fight with Righelli again...

Lusa counters for Righelli.

Pentagram+ decides to turn it up a notch. After Lucchese has been killed, Pentagram+ opens fire on both Lusa and Righelli.

While taking hits, Lusa and Righelli manage to fire back and kill most of the active shooters.



A new night falls on omerta.

24 Hours after the first shot, we see Templari & Gambino finishing off Pentagram.



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War started on: 22:22:08 11-02-2014 War ended on: 06:49:08 14-02-2014
Bullet difference: -50,781,613 War duration: 2d 8h 27m
Money difference: -$2,843,624,428 Players died: 412




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Dead Families:
[Ascension] Family down on 06:14 14-02
[Liggio] Family down on 05:26 14-02
[Andalusia] Family down on 23:49 13-02
[Pentagram] Family down on 04:13 13-02
[Lucchese] Family down on 07:16 12-02
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Andalusia | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 3 | chief: 1 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 203
Ascension | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 23 | cd: 2 | gf: 1 | points: 383
Gambino | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 1
Liggio | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 5 | chief: 1 | brug: 28 | cd: 2 | gf: 1 | points: 475
Lucchese | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 8 | chief: 5 | brug: 16 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 293
Lusa | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 1 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 153
Pentagram | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 2 | brug: 38 | cd: 2 | gf: 1 | points: 603
Persico | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 60
Righelli | swin: 3 | assa: 0 | lc: 4 | chief: 8 | brug: 13 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 281
Templari | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 18
Total | swin: 6 | assa: 2 | lc: 27 | chief: 19 | brug: 142 | cd: 7 | gf: 5 | points: 2,470
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mordor Netherlands (04:49:45 - 13-02)
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ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.

We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.

This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.

You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.

All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.

Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.

So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.

You cant be serious... But sure, Aeterna and faffie just vanished in thin air. Also Templari will be up next version from the start, because that works.... You waited with luchesse untill you guys thought the time was right. Clearly it wasnt yet, cry me a river.
Nuke United States (04:34:04 - 13-02)
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ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.

We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.

This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.

You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.

All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.

Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.

So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.

I will agree that Lucchese did not list many bloods, but Righelli did not act the same way. Unfortunately, everyone knows that Lucchese is very aggressive and as of this version, has the most ranking members. I wouldn't expect that anyone could kill one of Lucchese's few bloods without fighting Lucchese too. If I were to plan a war against one of your few bloods, I would have shot your family first too. Blame it on your reputation, if you wish, but who is more likely to fight a tough counter attack? Lucchese or Righelli. I know my answer, and in my opinion that's why Lucchese got shot first.

Keep in mind that I knew nothing of these wars, but I've been around long enough to have an idea of how things would have turned out if Lucchese was left alone. In my opinion, since Liggio and Righelli shared the same bloods, but were not in agreement with each other, it was inevitable that they would shoot one another. If I were Liggio, I would not have waited any longer for Righelli to recover from the previous war.. As for everyone else, what choice did they have? The top 4 families were working together. Liggio was their best shot at fighting a decent fight..

Righelli roped your family into this. No offense against their playing style, but maybe you should have started your new tactic by keeping your bloods on the same page as well.

Just my two cents.. I've been with many families and groups in this game, including yours, and served the best I could for the name I wore. I mean no bias against the Lucchese or Righelli name. I'm merely trying to explain how things might appear to the people who weren't in your circle this round.
ReBorN United States (04:11:30 - 13-02)
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I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.

We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.

This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.

You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.

All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.

Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.

So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
mordor Netherlands (03:55:18 - 13-02)
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Anonymous at 01:53:38 on 13/02:
TurkMaster at 01:19:21 on 13/02:
Templari is shooting Pentagram, but for strategic reason I think. Not blood related to lusa or righelli

Let's hope they are not noobs and finish the job by shooting Penta's as 1 Andalusia. Not that those bullet hugging pussies would counter or anything.

Im empty, i cant counter.

We were participating in 3 wars, just killed a family, probably because it was all we could do. Still, get your facts straight. We cant do a lot, ill give you that. But we didnt lean back though this time.
Nuke United States (02:08:47 - 13-02)
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Helpless people hope.. Cowards get other people to do things for them. Why complain here? It's just a game.. and you're posting anonymously. What does that say about you?

Anonymous (01:53:38 - 13-02)
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TurkMaster at 01:19:21 on 13/02:
Templari is shooting Pentagram, but for strategic reason I think. Not blood related to lusa or righelli

Let's hope they are not noobs and finish the job by shooting Penta's as 1 Andalusia. Not that those bullet hugging pussies would counter or anything.
Fenrir Norway (01:49:59 - 13-02)
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Anonymous at 00:08:30 on 13/02:
Fenrir at 22:18:14 on 12/02:
While its clear that the power lies with the Templari/Prime/Prophecy/Liggio(all blooded to eachother right?) atm, i find it rather shortsighted for fams like Penta/Anda/Persico/Asce to go vs Lucchese/Righelli at this point. Lucch/Righ was broken and faaaar away from their original strength. I dont know what attackers motivation was by making this move, but it wasnt a version win. For Liggio on the other hand it seemed like a natural move given they were bloods with all the other "top fams" at this point and had decent protection afterwards would the move succeed.

Im not really paying much attention to this version, so i should not judge. But people seem to complain about overblooding and what not. Imo the fault lies just as much with families agreeing to be the 5th, 6th, 7th or even 8th blood of a so called "massblooder". I mean, if a family with already 5+ bloods proposed bloods to me aswell, i would be offended. At that point its pretty clear they are just blooding out of fear, not for wanting cooperation.

After the first part of this war it was a matter of time before lucchese/righelli would hit back at the families you name + the rerankers in righelli/lucchese were almost back to chief, so to me this action made perfect sense.


yeah sure it made sense :') nice outcome
TurkMaster (01:19:21 - 13-02)
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Templari is shooting Pentagram, but for strategic reason I think. Not blood related to lusa or righelli
Anonymous (00:09:30 - 13-02)
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Anonymous at 21:46:31 on 12/02:
when does andalusia start helping bloods

joke of the day +1
Anonymous (00:08:30 - 13-02)
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Fenrir at 22:18:14 on 12/02:
While its clear that the power lies with the Templari/Prime/Prophecy/Liggio(all blooded to eachother right?) atm, i find it rather shortsighted for fams like Penta/Anda/Persico/Asce to go vs Lucchese/Righelli at this point. Lucch/Righ was broken and faaaar away from their original strength. I dont know what attackers motivation was by making this move, but it wasnt a version win. For Liggio on the other hand it seemed like a natural move given they were bloods with all the other "top fams" at this point and had decent protection afterwards would the move succeed.

Im not really paying much attention to this version, so i should not judge. But people seem to complain about overblooding and what not. Imo the fault lies just as much with families agreeing to be the 5th, 6th, 7th or even 8th blood of a so called "massblooder". I mean, if a family with already 5+ bloods proposed bloods to me aswell, i would be offended. At that point its pretty clear they are just blooding out of fear, not for wanting cooperation.

After the first part of this war it was a matter of time before lucchese/righelli would hit back at the families you name + the rerankers in righelli/lucchese were almost back to chief, so to me this action made perfect sense.
Anonymous (23:39:34 - 12-02)
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malady at 23:31:33 on 12/02:
uggliest players in history , pls turks go back to ur grave , u dont deserve to play this game

Lucchese soldiers after we were wounded we fought ! We now died like warriors , but still we damaged them more than they damaged us , because , legends never die !

sending people to their graves, damn son you take this game waaaay to serious :')
malady Portugal (23:38:11 - 12-02)
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Anonymous at 23:35:26 on 12/02:
malady at 23:31:33 on 12/02:
uggliest players in history , pls turks go back to ur grave , u dont deserve to play this game

Lucchese soldiers after we were wounded we fought ! We now died like warriors , but still we damaged them more than they damaged us , because , legends never die !


jesus dude...this is just a game...take a chill pill and calm down...

k thnkx bye?
Anonymous (23:35:26 - 12-02)
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malady at 23:31:33 on 12/02:
uggliest players in history , pls turks go back to ur grave , u dont deserve to play this game

Lucchese soldiers after we were wounded we fought ! We now died like warriors , but still we damaged them more than they damaged us , because , legends never die !


jesus dude...this is just a game...take a chill pill and calm down...
malady Portugal (23:31:33 - 12-02)
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uggliest players in history , pls turks go back to ur grave , u dont deserve to play this game

Lucchese soldiers after we were wounded we fought ! We now died like warriors , but still we damaged them more than they damaged us , because , legends never die !
Criminal Bulgaria (23:19:20 - 12-02)
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Anonymous at 20:16:37 on 12/02:
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mmm at 18:06:41 on 12/02:
Liggio ruined the entire version imo, completely agree with the talks down below from Aart etc.
But what I dont understand, Liggio wasn't even blooded to Pentagram and the other 16 turk fams that shot lucchese/righelli. So what happened? Liggio licking their ass or vice versa?

Anyway, poor gameplay from liggio. Major poor attacking from all of the attacking fams on lucc/righ. And great respect for the way lucchese/righelli handeled themselves this version, sticking to lucchese's pledge. That's how you go in the books.


True...same like Aeterna and faffie ruined last version...

except aeterna and faffie ruined it by doing what this game is about, shooting everyone playing to win

whats happening now is just shoot lucc/righ and not give a damn about what happens after that playing just to shoot lucc/righ. no wonder liggio blooded kurosawa since kurosawa has been shooting them for years like puppies


so basicly you are saying that liggio should have wait to get shot by lucchese and righelli? liggio wasnt bloods with righ nor lucchese.. liggio <-> lucchese/righelli war wouldnt be the first of the version...but for sure lucc and righ would shoot liggio later on...so why wait? when you can gather fams that are also willing to shoot them..


Well first of all, why take in 16+ families to shoot? Second of all, why shoot them on this moment when you know it isn't going to be the first war? What's the use of shooting them knowing you fuck up your own chances of a version win aswell? There's not a lot of use shooting when you know you're both dead after that, especially considering the attacking families had over 210+ brugliones dead compared to the 110 of the defenders. So much potential, so little result.

I know there's not a lot of tactics involved with most tops on this game but this is just very short term thinking by certain families. Sometimes you wonder why family members follow the lead of a top that runs around like a chicken without a head on it. I wouldn't.

Do you call 5 brugs fams as 1 family? Lucchese was equal to 7-8 fam from shooter side. Stop calling it as 16+ family

only invulnerable+ had more lc+ than lucchese you baddie. so penta also had more lc+ than lucchese. so thes extra fam's you're talking about make a difference afterall. but you guys planned this shit so poorly that you couldn't get us down.
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Anonymous at 20:16:37 on 12/02:
Anonymous at 19:32:39 on 12/02:
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Anonymous at 18:45:13 on 12/02:
Anonymous at 18:35:17 on 12/02:
mmm at 18:06:41 on 12/02:
Liggio ruined the entire version imo, completely agree with the talks down below from Aart etc.
But what I dont understand, Liggio wasn't even blooded to Pentagram and the other 16 turk fams that shot lucchese/righelli. So what happened? Liggio licking their ass or vice versa?

Anyway, poor gameplay from liggio. Major poor attacking from all of the attacking fams on lucc/righ. And great respect for the way lucchese/righelli handeled themselves this version, sticking to lucchese's pledge. That's how you go in the books.


True...same like Aeterna and faffie ruined last version...

except aeterna and faffie ruined it by doing what this game is about, shooting everyone playing to win

whats happening now is just shoot lucc/righ and not give a damn about what happens after that playing just to shoot lucc/righ. no wonder liggio blooded kurosawa since kurosawa has been shooting them for years like puppies


so basicly you are saying that liggio should have wait to get shot by lucchese and righelli? liggio wasnt bloods with righ nor lucchese.. liggio <-> lucchese/righelli war wouldnt be the first of the version...but for sure lucc and righ would shoot liggio later on...so why wait? when you can gather fams that are also willing to shoot them..


Well first of all, why take in 16+ families to shoot? Second of all, why shoot them on this moment when you know it isn't going to be the first war? What's the use of shooting them knowing you fuck up your own chances of a version win aswell? There's not a lot of use shooting when you know you're both dead after that, especially considering the attacking families had over 210+ brugliones dead compared to the 110 of the defenders. So much potential, so little result.

I know there's not a lot of tactics involved with most tops on this game but this is just very short term thinking by certain families. Sometimes you wonder why family members follow the lead of a top that runs around like a chicken without a head on it. I wouldn't.

Do you call 5 brugs fams as 1 family? Lucchese was equal to 7-8 fam from shooter side. Stop calling it as 16+ family


Yes those are seperate families too indeed. Why? Because every single top3 account gets extra strenght points. Every don gets even more points. So when you have 16 families attacking that means 16 players with shitloads of extra points and 32 players who were rewarded a whole lot of extra top3 points. Which totals 48 Brugliones+ that have MORE strenght than a regular bruglione from for example Lucchese or Righelli with the exact SAME statistics. Just for your information:

Lucchese lost 29 brugliones that first war. Considering those 16 families had 48 extra strong brugliones that surely makes a significant difference.

Other than that if you look at the losses in those wars and to brugliones still standing in 2 wars:
Lucchese + Righelli were attacked by a total of 322 bruglione+ The defenders lost + standing is 130 bruglione+

So not just did they have 48 top3 position players, they also had almost triple amount of brugliones. Either way: You can only say the attackers had the potential to even gun down the current top3 families, yet they decided to lose the version losing double amounts of Brugliones as the attacking side. Potential.... You may have the amount of players but not the brains to win the version.
Fenrir Norway (22:18:14 - 12-02)
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While its clear that the power lies with the Templari/Prime/Prophecy/Liggio(all blooded to eachother right?) atm, i find it rather shortsighted for fams like Penta/Anda/Persico/Asce to go vs Lucchese/Righelli at this point. Lucch/Righ was broken and faaaar away from their original strength. I dont know what attackers motivation was by making this move, but it wasnt a version win. For Liggio on the other hand it seemed like a natural move given they were bloods with all the other "top fams" at this point and had decent protection afterwards would the move succeed.

Im not really paying much attention to this version, so i should not judge. But people seem to complain about overblooding and what not. Imo the fault lies just as much with families agreeing to be the 5th, 6th, 7th or even 8th blood of a so called "massblooder". I mean, if a family with already 5+ bloods proposed bloods to me aswell, i would be offended. At that point its pretty clear they are just blooding out of fear, not for wanting cooperation.


sikkok Netherlands (22:03:59 - 12-02)
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www.barafranca.co

the same like barafranca.com only 10times better

version 2.0 oldskool fast ranking good money


its worth registering and playing no need for dc


www.barafranca.co
Anonymous (21:46:31 - 12-02)
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when does andalusia start helping bloods and as1 fam = never ,, same as every version :P
Anonymous (20:53:32 - 12-02)
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Anonymous at 20:20:39 on 12/02:
why shoot them on this moment when you know it isn't going to be the first war? What's the use of shooting them knowing you fuck up your own chances of a version win aswell?

Answer: I'd rather be a dick than a swallower

PM haike then. He will suck you for free. Redvendetta will too but he will expect some greek in return.