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After days of rumours and talks in the barafranca world, Pentagram+ and Persico decided to try to finish what they started in the first war.
Pentagram+ & Persico → Lucchese
The war is going slow and the attackers are suffering a lot of backfire kills so far.
Meanwhile Liggio & Ascension started their fight with Righelli again...
Lusa counters for Righelli.
Pentagram+ decides to turn it up a notch. After Lucchese has been killed, Pentagram+ opens fire on both Lusa and Righelli.
While taking hits, Lusa and Righelli manage to fire back and kill most of the active shooters.
A new night falls on omerta.
24 Hours after the first shot, we see Templari & Gambino finishing off Pentagram.
Pentagram+ & Persico → Lucchese
The war is going slow and the attackers are suffering a lot of backfire kills so far.
Meanwhile Liggio & Ascension started their fight with Righelli again...
Lusa counters for Righelli.
Pentagram+ decides to turn it up a notch. After Lucchese has been killed, Pentagram+ opens fire on both Lusa and Righelli.
While taking hits, Lusa and Righelli manage to fire back and kill most of the active shooters.
A new night falls on omerta.
24 Hours after the first shot, we see Templari & Gambino finishing off Pentagram.
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| War started on: 22:22:08 11-02-2014 | War ended on: 06:49:08 14-02-2014 |
| Bullet difference: -50,781,613 | War duration: 2d 8h 27m |
| Money difference: -$2,843,624,428 | Players died: 412 |
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Anonymous (11:41:23 - 13-02)
Morgadinho (11:39:13 - 13-02)
Jordyrp at 11:33:21 on 13/02:
That's the whle point, because of the connections with other fams/tops, that some families wanted more 1v1 wars, instead of gangbangs, or 1v2 but atleast with even ratios. I don't remember what the exact ratios were at the start of the gangbang I think murderinc put up a comment of it somewhere in the article of the first war, but those odds were definitely not even. And that is the whole point, that everyone has the connections but shouldn't use them, just go 1 vs 1, no more gangbanging. But some people fail to understand that apparently, and that's what has killed yet another version after a single month of gameplay.
Anonymous at 11:29:33 on 13/02:
this massblooding started versions ago, first with affi and later with faffie. i think what you fail to see is it wont go back to the way it used to be. The game has sized to a incredible low amount of players, while alot of tops have a good network among eachother. this most certainly doesnt mean you need to be bloods but there is still a backdoor channel among these tops.
This goes for turks but dont get all patronising because lucchese and righelli using these same channels to influence "their" side of the game. All together i got to give credit to lucchese for trying to get other tops along with their "new code". but in the end the bloodlines of lucchesse & rigehelli stack just as many players as other pacts/sides/bloodlines.
So imo cut the crap and get along, when introduced with this massblooding (mostly the dutchies, no offense) there was no turning back from it. i hope you guys can except this and stop screaming here how you tried to change the world.
Jordyrp at 11:05:22 on 13/02:
He's saying lucchese made a pledge to improve the game, and that other fams respond to it by shooting with 10 fams vs 2, and then followup that war with another gangbang when it is clear that this war pretty much ended the version. Which is what he means by 'an idiotic move driven by hate and fear', if the attacking fams had thought this through they would've realized they basically gave templari the win right here.
Basically some fams tried to improve the game with the pledge, by reducing the amount of bloods, and some fams which clearly do not need to be named were too dumb to realize that that was a change necessary to keep the game alive, and decided to keep up their massblooding and gangbanging, and by doing so kept the game shit instead of trying to improve it.
Anonymous at 10:38:40 on 13/02:
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
mmm at 07:37:38 on 13/02:
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
He's saying lucchese made a pledge to improve the game, and that other fams respond to it by shooting with 10 fams vs 2, and then followup that war with another gangbang when it is clear that this war pretty much ended the version. Which is what he means by 'an idiotic move driven by hate and fear', if the attacking fams had thought this through they would've realized they basically gave templari the win right here.
Basically some fams tried to improve the game with the pledge, by reducing the amount of bloods, and some fams which clearly do not need to be named were too dumb to realize that that was a change necessary to keep the game alive, and decided to keep up their massblooding and gangbanging, and by doing so kept the game shit instead of trying to improve it.
this massblooding started versions ago, first with affi and later with faffie. i think what you fail to see is it wont go back to the way it used to be. The game has sized to a incredible low amount of players, while alot of tops have a good network among eachother. this most certainly doesnt mean you need to be bloods but there is still a backdoor channel among these tops.
This goes for turks but dont get all patronising because lucchese and righelli using these same channels to influence "their" side of the game. All together i got to give credit to lucchese for trying to get other tops along with their "new code". but in the end the bloodlines of lucchesse & rigehelli stack just as many players as other pacts/sides/bloodlines.
So imo cut the crap and get along, when introduced with this massblooding (mostly the dutchies, no offense) there was no turning back from it. i hope you guys can except this and stop screaming here how you tried to change the world.
That's the whle point, because of the connections with other fams/tops, that some families wanted more 1v1 wars, instead of gangbangs, or 1v2 but atleast with even ratios. I don't remember what the exact ratios were at the start of the gangbang I think murderinc put up a comment of it somewhere in the article of the first war, but those odds were definitely not even. And that is the whole point, that everyone has the connections but shouldn't use them, just go 1 vs 1, no more gangbanging. But some people fail to understand that apparently, and that's what has killed yet another version after a single month of gameplay.
I think the that was
Gravano + Marazzino + Invunerable + Pentagram vs Lucchese and Righelli
thats why i don't know why the attacker side in 1º war is talking about "overblooding" and "gangbang"..
Anonymous at 11:29:33 on 13/02:
this massblooding started versions ago, first with affi and later with faffie. i think what you fail to see is it wont go back to the way it used to be. The game has sized to a incredible low amount of players, while alot of tops have a good network among eachother. this most certainly doesnt mean you need to be bloods but there is still a backdoor channel among these tops.
This goes for turks but dont get all patronising because lucchese and righelli using these same channels to influence "their" side of the game. All together i got to give credit to lucchese for trying to get other tops along with their "new code". but in the end the bloodlines of lucchesse & rigehelli stack just as many players as other pacts/sides/bloodlines.
So imo cut the crap and get along, when introduced with this massblooding (mostly the dutchies, no offense) there was no turning back from it. i hope you guys can except this and stop screaming here how you tried to change the world.
Jordyrp at 11:05:22 on 13/02:
He's saying lucchese made a pledge to improve the game, and that other fams respond to it by shooting with 10 fams vs 2, and then followup that war with another gangbang when it is clear that this war pretty much ended the version. Which is what he means by 'an idiotic move driven by hate and fear', if the attacking fams had thought this through they would've realized they basically gave templari the win right here.
Basically some fams tried to improve the game with the pledge, by reducing the amount of bloods, and some fams which clearly do not need to be named were too dumb to realize that that was a change necessary to keep the game alive, and decided to keep up their massblooding and gangbanging, and by doing so kept the game shit instead of trying to improve it.
Anonymous at 10:38:40 on 13/02:
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
mmm at 07:37:38 on 13/02:
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
He's saying lucchese made a pledge to improve the game, and that other fams respond to it by shooting with 10 fams vs 2, and then followup that war with another gangbang when it is clear that this war pretty much ended the version. Which is what he means by 'an idiotic move driven by hate and fear', if the attacking fams had thought this through they would've realized they basically gave templari the win right here.
Basically some fams tried to improve the game with the pledge, by reducing the amount of bloods, and some fams which clearly do not need to be named were too dumb to realize that that was a change necessary to keep the game alive, and decided to keep up their massblooding and gangbanging, and by doing so kept the game shit instead of trying to improve it.
this massblooding started versions ago, first with affi and later with faffie. i think what you fail to see is it wont go back to the way it used to be. The game has sized to a incredible low amount of players, while alot of tops have a good network among eachother. this most certainly doesnt mean you need to be bloods but there is still a backdoor channel among these tops.
This goes for turks but dont get all patronising because lucchese and righelli using these same channels to influence "their" side of the game. All together i got to give credit to lucchese for trying to get other tops along with their "new code". but in the end the bloodlines of lucchesse & rigehelli stack just as many players as other pacts/sides/bloodlines.
So imo cut the crap and get along, when introduced with this massblooding (mostly the dutchies, no offense) there was no turning back from it. i hope you guys can except this and stop screaming here how you tried to change the world.
That's the whle point, because of the connections with other fams/tops, that some families wanted more 1v1 wars, instead of gangbangs, or 1v2 but atleast with even ratios. I don't remember what the exact ratios were at the start of the gangbang I think murderinc put up a comment of it somewhere in the article of the first war, but those odds were definitely not even. And that is the whole point, that everyone has the connections but shouldn't use them, just go 1 vs 1, no more gangbanging. But some people fail to understand that apparently, and that's what has killed yet another version after a single month of gameplay.
Anonymous (11:29:33 - 13-02)
Jordyrp at 11:05:22 on 13/02:
He's saying lucchese made a pledge to improve the game, and that other fams respond to it by shooting with 10 fams vs 2, and then followup that war with another gangbang when it is clear that this war pretty much ended the version. Which is what he means by 'an idiotic move driven by hate and fear', if the attacking fams had thought this through they would've realized they basically gave templari the win right here.
Basically some fams tried to improve the game with the pledge, by reducing the amount of bloods, and some fams which clearly do not need to be named were too dumb to realize that that was a change necessary to keep the game alive, and decided to keep up their massblooding and gangbanging, and by doing so kept the game shit instead of trying to improve it.
Anonymous at 10:38:40 on 13/02:
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
mmm at 07:37:38 on 13/02:
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
He's saying lucchese made a pledge to improve the game, and that other fams respond to it by shooting with 10 fams vs 2, and then followup that war with another gangbang when it is clear that this war pretty much ended the version. Which is what he means by 'an idiotic move driven by hate and fear', if the attacking fams had thought this through they would've realized they basically gave templari the win right here.
Basically some fams tried to improve the game with the pledge, by reducing the amount of bloods, and some fams which clearly do not need to be named were too dumb to realize that that was a change necessary to keep the game alive, and decided to keep up their massblooding and gangbanging, and by doing so kept the game shit instead of trying to improve it.
this massblooding started versions ago, first with affi and later with faffie. i think what you fail to see is it wont go back to the way it used to be. The game has sized to a incredible low amount of players, while alot of tops have a good network among eachother. this most certainly doesnt mean you need to be bloods but there is still a backdoor channel among these tops.
This goes for turks but dont get all patronising because lucchese and righelli using these same channels to influence "their" side of the game. All together i got to give credit to lucchese for trying to get other tops along with their "new code". but in the end the bloodlines of lucchesse & rigehelli stack just as many players as other pacts/sides/bloodlines.
So imo cut the crap and get along, when introduced with this massblooding (mostly the dutchies, no offense) there was no turning back from it. i hope you guys can except this and stop screaming here how you tried to change the world.
Morgadinho (11:27:27 - 13-02)
First of all Good morning.
This versions is a bit strange, what a fuck they just thinking?
Why the hell with an gangbang of 14 vs 3 on first war, and than 14 vs 8 when bloods entered, all of 8 familys of a side still better than the others 14?
What a hell was this attack? the quantity of BF kills was larger than direct kills..
We know that always someone talks about "overblooding",we know that, but what u want us to do when we see a turk pact involving 14 familys + ?
"overblooding" is just about us? or we are forced to do what we do?
And im not saying that we blood too much, we blood the essential.
at last i just want to congratz Templari soldjas, they are a exemple of Loyalty and streght <3
Goodluck to all.
Kind regards.
Morgadinho
This versions is a bit strange, what a fuck they just thinking?
Why the hell with an gangbang of 14 vs 3 on first war, and than 14 vs 8 when bloods entered, all of 8 familys of a side still better than the others 14?
What a hell was this attack? the quantity of BF kills was larger than direct kills..
We know that always someone talks about "overblooding",we know that, but what u want us to do when we see a turk pact involving 14 familys + ?
"overblooding" is just about us? or we are forced to do what we do?
And im not saying that we blood too much, we blood the essential.
at last i just want to congratz Templari soldjas, they are a exemple of Loyalty and streght <3
Goodluck to all.
Kind regards.
Morgadinho
Anonymous at 10:38:40 on 13/02:
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
mmm at 07:37:38 on 13/02:
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
He's saying lucchese made a pledge to improve the game, and that other fams respond to it by shooting with 10 fams vs 2, and then followup that war with another gangbang when it is clear that this war pretty much ended the version. Which is what he means by 'an idiotic move driven by hate and fear', if the attacking fams had thought this through they would've realized they basically gave templari the win right here.
Basically some fams tried to improve the game with the pledge, by reducing the amount of bloods, and some fams which clearly do not need to be named were too dumb to realize that that was a change necessary to keep the game alive, and decided to keep up their massblooding and gangbanging, and by doing so kept the game shit instead of trying to improve it.
Anonymous at 10:38:40 on 13/02:
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
mmm at 07:37:38 on 13/02:
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
If you cant understand the words that Im saying, dont even bother responding to my posts. What Im saying is, everyone should be playing for themselves not asslicking others just to get down families they hate.
Ive said, many times, that I understand the 1st war even though I think it was a poor move on the attackers part. The 2nd war however was stupid and purely fueled by hate and fear.
Try and read what I actually write next time. Thanks.
Anonymous (10:38:40 - 13-02)
mmm at 07:37:38 on 13/02:
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
Anonymous (07:59:48 - 13-02)
Audiowaste at 07:37:58 on 13/02:
Even a blind man could see that one coming.
mmm at 07:33:09 on 13/02:
Kinda funny how mr Anonymous was right from the start.
Anonymous at 22:43:50 on 11/02:
lol penta, you just dug your own grave
lol penta, you just dug your own grave
Kinda funny how mr Anonymous was right from the start.
LoL thanks Mmm.
Penta was known for waiting whole version to finally win it in the end and thus claiming a version win while being totally useless.
Can't really expect them to act with sense of reason when it comes to attacking
mmm at 07:33:09 on 13/02:
Kinda funny how mr Anonymous was right from the start.
Anonymous at 22:43:50 on 11/02:
lol penta, you just dug your own grave
lol penta, you just dug your own grave
Kinda funny how mr Anonymous was right from the start.
ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
Anonymous at 22:43:50 on 11/02:
lol penta, you just dug your own grave
lol penta, you just dug your own grave
Kinda funny how mr Anonymous was right from the start.
Anonymous (06:52:10 - 13-02)
Lucchese is a step ahead of all the other families though. Most other families don't have the brains in the top, which causes that 'just join up with the gangbangers because the game is dead' mentality. Those people don't even realise they are the main problem why this game is dieing :') Not smart enough to see it or too narcistic to see.
Nuke at 05:56:58 on 13/02:
Well, for what it's worth, I'm sorry we didn't get to see what would have happened.. It sounds like good fun.
I'm always that way though.. I've always celebrated the underdog. Once someone has claimed a clear advantage, I always wish that I could have seen another outcome. I hope you get your chance to do things your way. I want to see that too. Everyone deserves the chance to be on top every now and then. :)
Hopefully next time someone else can be seen as the bad guy when the server resets. Perception means so much in this world.
Well, for what it's worth, I'm sorry we didn't get to see what would have happened.. It sounds like good fun.
I'm always that way though.. I've always celebrated the underdog. Once someone has claimed a clear advantage, I always wish that I could have seen another outcome. I hope you get your chance to do things your way. I want to see that too. Everyone deserves the chance to be on top every now and then. :)
Hopefully next time someone else can be seen as the bad guy when the server resets. Perception means so much in this world.
I hope so too. The only problem is, it took many versions to get to the way things are now and if its ever going to happen (which I doubt, because people are too afraid) it will take versions to make it happen. But, by that time people will be too sick or the way things are played that there wont be anyone left playing, except for the people that continue to gangbang all the time. :p
Well, for what it's worth, I'm sorry we didn't get to see what would have happened.. It sounds like good fun.
I'm always that way though.. I've always celebrated the underdog. Once someone has claimed a clear advantage, I always wish that I could have seen another outcome. I hope you get your chance to do things your way. I want to see that too. Everyone deserves the chance to be on top every now and then. :)
Hopefully next time someone else can be seen as the bad guy when the server resets. Perception means so much in this world.
I'm always that way though.. I've always celebrated the underdog. Once someone has claimed a clear advantage, I always wish that I could have seen another outcome. I hope you get your chance to do things your way. I want to see that too. Everyone deserves the chance to be on top every now and then. :)
Hopefully next time someone else can be seen as the bad guy when the server resets. Perception means so much in this world.
Nuke at 05:36:24 on 13/02:
Reborn, tell me what you would have done differently, had your family not been shot the first time or the second time. Enough of being vague. Let's talk intentions. None of it matters now, but let's at least hear what you were thinking when you had the #1 family this version. Hell, you were two weeks from being a top 5 family again. What were you going to do then?
I'm not sure anything would have or could have turned out differently, other than the order in which families were killed. This game's politics do not appear any different than it was 8 years ago, only the ranking is much more even, which means that when it comes time to fight, most people are ready at the same time and one group comes out ahead.
LSO/Gambino Corp/Nuevitas/PPV had things wrapped up from the start of 2.1 and CCCE/S had things wrapped up from the start of 2.2. If another 10 families band together and off Templari, we have no idea who will win this server. In my opinion, it's one of the most even servers I have been a part of.
Reborn, tell me what you would have done differently, had your family not been shot the first time or the second time. Enough of being vague. Let's talk intentions. None of it matters now, but let's at least hear what you were thinking when you had the #1 family this version. Hell, you were two weeks from being a top 5 family again. What were you going to do then?
I'm not sure anything would have or could have turned out differently, other than the order in which families were killed. This game's politics do not appear any different than it was 8 years ago, only the ranking is much more even, which means that when it comes time to fight, most people are ready at the same time and one group comes out ahead.
LSO/Gambino Corp/Nuevitas/PPV had things wrapped up from the start of 2.1 and CCCE/S had things wrapped up from the start of 2.2. If another 10 families band together and off Templari, we have no idea who will win this server. In my opinion, it's one of the most even servers I have been a part of.
I cant tell you what we would have done. We had no plans on shooting anyone yet. Obviously we would have listen to rumors, possibly acted on them if given the chance. But I know what you are thinking, you think we would have started shooting families just for the hell of it. Maybe, if time was on our side. But I can tell you with 100% certainty, we had no target list, or list of families we had plans of shooting. Our intention was to play for a bit, gather some bullets, have a 1v1 war here and there, and take it from there. Like I said, we pledged no mass blooding and no gangbanging and thats what our gameplan was all about.
Reborn, tell me what you would have done differently, had your family not been shot the first time or the second time. Enough of being vague. Let's talk intentions. None of it matters now, but let's at least hear what you were thinking when you had the #1 family this version. Hell, you were two weeks from being a top 5 family again. What were you going to do then?
I'm not sure anything would have or could have turned out differently, other than the order in which families were killed. This game's politics do not appear any different than it was 8 years ago, only the ranking is much more even, which means that when it comes time to fight, most people are ready at the same time and one group comes out ahead.
LSO/Gambino Corp/Nuevitas/PPV had things wrapped up from the start of 2.1 and CCCE/S had things wrapped up from the start of 2.2. If another 10 families band together and off Templari, we have no idea who will win this server. In my opinion, it's one of the most even servers I have been a part of.
I'm not sure anything would have or could have turned out differently, other than the order in which families were killed. This game's politics do not appear any different than it was 8 years ago, only the ranking is much more even, which means that when it comes time to fight, most people are ready at the same time and one group comes out ahead.
LSO/Gambino Corp/Nuevitas/PPV had things wrapped up from the start of 2.1 and CCCE/S had things wrapped up from the start of 2.2. If another 10 families band together and off Templari, we have no idea who will win this server. In my opinion, it's one of the most even servers I have been a part of.
mordor at 04:49:45 on 13/02:
You cant be serious... But sure, Aeterna and faffie just vanished in thin air. Also Templari will be up next version from the start, because that works.... You waited with luchesse untill you guys thought the time was right. Clearly it wasnt yet, cry me a river.
You cant be serious... But sure, Aeterna and faffie just vanished in thin air. Also Templari will be up next version from the start, because that works.... You waited with luchesse untill you guys thought the time was right. Clearly it wasnt yet, cry me a river.
You are kidding right? You tell me when Lucchese has ever played under another name for a full version?
Tell me which Lucchese tops were tops in Aeterna or Faffie. I think one was a top in Aeterna.
Lucchese only came back this version because a few key tops came out of retirement.
But thats ok, you know more about my family then I do. Go on with your bad self.
Nuke at 04:34:04 on 13/02:
I will agree that Lucchese did not list many bloods, but Righelli did not act the same way. Unfortunately, everyone knows that Lucchese is very aggressive and as of this version, has the most ranking members. I wouldn't expect that anyone could kill one of Lucchese's few bloods without fighting Lucchese too. If I were to plan a war against one of your few bloods, I would have shot your family first too. Blame it on your reputation, if you wish, but who is more likely to fight a tough counter attack? Lucchese or Righelli. I know my answer, and in my opinion that's why Lucchese got shot first.
Keep in mind that I knew nothing of these wars, but I've been around long enough to have an idea of how things would have turned out if Lucchese was left alone. In my opinion, since Liggio and Righelli shared the same bloods, but were not in agreement with each other, it was inevitable that they would shoot one another. If I were Liggio, I would not have waited any longer for Righelli to recover from the previous war.. As for everyone else, what choice did they have? The top 4 families were working together. Liggio was their best shot at fighting a decent fight..
Righelli roped your family into this. No offense against their playing style, but maybe you should have started your new tactic by keeping your bloods on the same page as well.
Just my two cents.. I've been with many families and groups in this game, including yours, and served the best I could for the name I wore. I mean no bias against the Lucchese or Righelli name. I'm merely trying to explain how things might appear to the people who weren't in your circle this round.
I will agree that Lucchese did not list many bloods, but Righelli did not act the same way. Unfortunately, everyone knows that Lucchese is very aggressive and as of this version, has the most ranking members. I wouldn't expect that anyone could kill one of Lucchese's few bloods without fighting Lucchese too. If I were to plan a war against one of your few bloods, I would have shot your family first too. Blame it on your reputation, if you wish, but who is more likely to fight a tough counter attack? Lucchese or Righelli. I know my answer, and in my opinion that's why Lucchese got shot first.
Keep in mind that I knew nothing of these wars, but I've been around long enough to have an idea of how things would have turned out if Lucchese was left alone. In my opinion, since Liggio and Righelli shared the same bloods, but were not in agreement with each other, it was inevitable that they would shoot one another. If I were Liggio, I would not have waited any longer for Righelli to recover from the previous war.. As for everyone else, what choice did they have? The top 4 families were working together. Liggio was their best shot at fighting a decent fight..
Righelli roped your family into this. No offense against their playing style, but maybe you should have started your new tactic by keeping your bloods on the same page as well.
Just my two cents.. I've been with many families and groups in this game, including yours, and served the best I could for the name I wore. I mean no bias against the Lucchese or Righelli name. I'm merely trying to explain how things might appear to the people who weren't in your circle this round.
Of course, I can say unequivocally that if someone shot Righelli that Lucchese would have shot back. But there are many different options for the attackers. The point Im trying to make is, play for the best interest of your own family, not for the interest of a group of players, not for the interest of just killing Lucchese and Righelli.
The point I was trying to make was, when Lucchese pledged to keep their bloods to only 4, that wasnt the only statement we were making. We were also pledging to stay out of gangbang wars and blood locking the version. We were pledging against everything that is killing this game from a player controlled perspective. Its a shame that only 3 other families agreed to follow suit.
Like I said, I understand the first war although I think there were better ways of achieving the goal of killing/damaging our "side". For instance, if you need 16 families to take us down, and you still fail, maybe just concentrate on 1 of us?
The second war was a total joke in my opinion. Lucchese was weeks away from being able to do any damage. Pentagram had many other serious threats (obviously) but still decided to go after us again. What is the sense in that? Like I said, they can keep telling themselves whatever they want to help them sleep at night, but it was a stupid move that cost them their family and the type of move that is killing this game.
You say we should have kept our bloods on the same page? Its not our job to dictate how Righelli runs their family. In my opinion that is EXACTLY the mentality that has killed this game. We dont need to create a bloodweb of 8 families to "stay on the same page". Lucchese is Lucchese and plays for Lucchese and her bloods. Families shouldnt be blooding people as strategic moves, that is just crap and that is where this game died. I guarantee you that there were bloodships made this version simply because families were afraid of "our side". If you are that afraid then dont even bother making a family if you cant play for yourself, instead you find others to protect you.
Like I said, we tried to play a totally different game. We tried to play how things were when this game was actually fun. We had no intentions of shooting families simply because of their size or because it would put us in a better position.
mordor at 04:49:45 on 13/02:
You cant be serious... But sure, Aeterna and faffie just vanished in thin air. Also Templari will be up next version from the start, because that works.... You waited with luchesse untill you guys thought the time was right. Clearly it wasnt yet, cry me a river.
ReBorN at 04:11:30 on 13/02:
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
You cant be serious... But sure, Aeterna and faffie just vanished in thin air. Also Templari will be up next version from the start, because that works.... You waited with luchesse untill you guys thought the time was right. Clearly it wasnt yet, cry me a river.
I love how people talk about what Lucchese and Righelli would and would not do. I can understand the first war on Lucchese and Righelli, even though I think that war was a stupid move too, but this was just an idiotic move driven by hate and fear in my opinion.
We made a very public statement about changing the game play for the better. Even as other families around us that we considered threats didnt accept our challenge, we still kept to our word and reduced the amount of bloods because it was the right thing to do. Even as we were gangbanged in the first war, we still kept our word and didnt take on any new bloods. We had many offers, many options, but we hoped that we could help change the gameplay by the players for the better.
This game is dead and the players have only themselves to blame. You can complain about the admins all you want but its the players that mass blooding and gangbang wars. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Even when families make a pledge, stick to that pledge, you are still too scared to play for yourselves.
You talk about what Lucchese was GOING to do, you talk about what Righelli was GOING to do, but in the end we are the ones that wanted smaller blooding and smaller wars. We were the ones who made the pledge and stuck to it. You can tell yourselves that we would have gangbanged you in the end but it will be a lie that helps you sleep better at night.
All this talk about what Aeterna and Faffie did in previous versions is just bullshit. Lucchese was not Aeterna and Lucchese was not Faffie.
Might we have shot Pentagram eventually? Maybe, if we had a reason to. We might have shot many families, if we were given a reason to. But we tried to play this version as if there was no past. I can tell you that if we shot those families, it would have been by ourselves, not with bloods and certainly not with a huge gangbang.
So go ahead, keep fooling yourselves. Keep playing a dead game that you are beating to death with a stick. Next time think for yourselves, play for yourselves.
Completely agree with you Reborn. It's sad to see so many fams who were once respected and playing like pro's still gangbang a family that actually pledged to make this game a better game, to move onwards in a positive manner. Now these fams.. meh.. I can talk bullcrap about them all I want, but they're just not worth it to me anymore, it's just seriously sad.
I'm not totally convinced Templari won the version just yet, there's still some stuff that can happen, but the most likely scenario which we've seen for too many versions by now would indicate that fams will just die withing firing a single shot.
I'm hoping you're right and that all these silly fams will eventually find the brains to realise that gangbanging is meant for porn only.
So you are saying that if Lucchese pledged to "make the game better" nobody should make a move on them? And let them do what they wait?
He's saying lucchese made a pledge to improve the game, and that other fams respond to it by shooting with 10 fams vs 2, and then followup that war with another gangbang when it is clear that this war pretty much ended the version. Which is what he means by 'an idiotic move driven by hate and fear', if the attacking fams had thought this through they would've realized they basically gave templari the win right here.
Basically some fams tried to improve the game with the pledge, by reducing the amount of bloods, and some fams which clearly do not need to be named were too dumb to realize that that was a change necessary to keep the game alive, and decided to keep up their massblooding and gangbanging, and by doing so kept the game shit instead of trying to improve it.
this massblooding started versions ago, first with affi and later with faffie. i think what you fail to see is it wont go back to the way it used to be. The game has sized to a incredible low amount of players, while alot of tops have a good network among eachother. this most certainly doesnt mean you need to be bloods but there is still a backdoor channel among these tops.
This goes for turks but dont get all patronising because lucchese and righelli using these same channels to influence "their" side of the game. All together i got to give credit to lucchese for trying to get other tops along with their "new code". but in the end the bloodlines of lucchesse & rigehelli stack just as many players as other pacts/sides/bloodlines.
So imo cut the crap and get along, when introduced with this massblooding (mostly the dutchies, no offense) there was no turning back from it. i hope you guys can except this and stop screaming here how you tried to change the world.
That's the whle point, because of the connections with other fams/tops, that some families wanted more 1v1 wars, instead of gangbangs, or 1v2 but atleast with even ratios. I don't remember what the exact ratios were at the start of the gangbang I think murderinc put up a comment of it somewhere in the article of the first war, but those odds were definitely not even. And that is the whole point, that everyone has the connections but shouldn't use them, just go 1 vs 1, no more gangbanging. But some people fail to understand that apparently, and that's what has killed yet another version after a single month of gameplay.
if you think you can get fams to go 1 on 1 wars you are crazy bro :p. its not gonna happen. let me give you a simple example why:
I attack lucchesse
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Luchesse + bloods counter on me
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my bloods counter on lucchesse bloods
- Result: me and lucchese die
So fams stick together and kill lucchesse and their bloods (most likely to counter) and spread the damage among several fams. Your solution is is way more exciting i agree, but it is ineffective and insufficient. High chance of getting killed and thus not first pick for many fams.
Not saying what is right or wrong, just showing the results of you solution. Which makes me wonder why there would be fams using this tactic. on top of that this tactic can only be succesfull if indeed everybody get a short bloodlist, so you could have known from the start it wouldnt work out