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17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
Author: sbanks
Last updated: 4113d 14h 2m 3s ago by Smul
Comments: 207
Views: 83,757
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Version: 3.52
Involved families: Connection, Cristeria, Disconnectio, Executions, Faffie, Gravano, Homeless, Kamikaze, Kurosawa, Memento, Messina, Sith, Tattaglia, Cannabis, Favians, Leone, Pistoleros, Righelli, Rogero, Tempestuoso, Trafficante, Valerio, Wargasm
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The Wargasm Alliance (Wargasm/Cannabis), Leone, Favians and Righelli are being shot.

Gravano + FaffieRighelli
Disconnectio/ConnectionLeone
Tattaglia/Executions/Homeless + FaffieWargasm + Cannabis
Messina/SithFavians


Rumours come from the defending camp that Messina who is bloods with Righelli are in the same war channel as Gravano.

Tempestuoso is countering for Righelli, they are targeting Gravano. Cristeria gave Tempestuoso an offer they could refuse. It was; Stop shooting at Gravano or we will shoot at you. They didn't stop and thus are now the victim of a counter.

Valerio/RogeroMessina
TrafficanteMessina
CristeriaRighelli

Connection and Leone have arranged a ceasefire. Cristeria arranged this truce as they are both blooded to Cristeria. Instead Connection+ is now aiming for Tempestuoso.

Memento is killing the reranking people from Fidelitas inside Righelli.

Trafficante+ and Valerio+ have hold their fire too. After arranging a truce with Messina.

Kurosawa+ decided that it was time to shoot, they are pointing their guns at Righelli.

Now that the Wargasm alliance is nearly through Faffie added another target fam to their list, Righelli.

In a twist of events the last Righelli don, after the family has resorted to kicking out all members, gets Akilled. Making this war ended by the Tommy of an admin.
statistics
War started on: 19:06:02 17-01-2013 War ended on: 14:54:01 18-01-2013
Bullet difference: -21,256,895 War duration: 19h 47m
Money difference: -$1,813,328,670 Players died: 233




deaths
Dead Families:
[Righelli] Family down on 14:51 18-01
[Favians] Family down on 12:12 18-01
[Tempestuoso] Family down on 03:34 18-01
[Cannabis] Family down on 01:47 18-01
[Wargasm] Family down on 01:29 18-01
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
| swin: 6 | assa: 0 | lc: 5 | chief: 8 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 142
Cannabis | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 2 | brug: 12 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 232
Connection | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Cristeria | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 36
Disconnectio | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 42
Faffie | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 8
Favians | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 7 | brug: 14 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 273
Gravano | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 98
Kurosawa | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 16
Leone | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 9 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 117
Memento | swin: 1 | assa: 2 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 8
Messina | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 3 | chief: 2 | brug: 5 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 99
Righelli | swin: 7 | assa: 3 | lc: 1 | chief: 2 | brug: 22 | cd: 0 | gf: 2 | points: 401
Rogero | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Tattaglia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Tempestuoso | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 3 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 176
Valerio | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Wargasm | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 3 | brug: 26 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 367
Total | swin: 17 | assa: 9 | lc: 14 | chief: 33 | brug: 120 | cd: 1 | gf: 4 | points: 2,119
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shell (12:58:24 - 18-01)
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PannaJunk at 11:49:56 on 18/01:
shell at 11:40:38 on 18/01:
What Gravano did was a logical step, they felt like they should get rid of righelli, so did they. ISPP was an excuse and to be honest, i think families don't even need an excuse to shoot, so that is ok.

About families which gave words and then acted otherwise, we will see them later. Because it is another issue, isn't it same in real world ? when you give a word and then don't keep that, your action bites you back now or later.

Rip all righelli members died so far.

You guys did great and we will be back this version or the next one, time will show which one it will be.

Big thanks go out to tempestuoso, although it was a certain death in the end, they jumped in, no matter what. I also thank Leone, despite their size they have helped us much more than we expected so far.

Anyway, BBS!


Like Righelli gave their word all the time ? Even had back up fams on Messina incase we would do something in ISPP war ? Idd you get what you deserve Shell.

We had families on you ? You better speak the truth or SU imo. Lieing for a game is sad.
Anonymous (11:58:30 - 18-01)
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RD at 11:51:57 on 18/01:
shell at 11:40:38 on 18/01:
What Gravano did was a logical step, they felt like they should get rid of righelli, so did they. ISPP was an excuse and to be honest, i think families don't even need an excuse to shoot, so that is ok.

About families which gave words and then acted otherwise, we will see them later. Because it is another issue, isn't it same in real world ? when you give a word and then don't keep that, your action bites you back now or later.

Rip all righelli members died so far.

You guys did great and we will be back this version or the next one, time will show which one it will be.

Big thanks go out to tempestuoso, although it was a certain death in the end, they jumped in, no matter what. I also thank Leone, despite their size they have helped us much more than we expected so far.

Anyway, BBS!

imo i like you and you know that but if you always keep your word , you aint gonna go far in this game , mafia can be about honor but never about full honesty . The reason i reply to this post its cuz i like righelli and you showed today how hard it is to get you guys down , this was just pure strategy sometimes backfire , sometimes dont. If we were bloods you had reason but friendship like i said before its outside the game.
Regards we will keep in touch.


hmm you are not honest so are you mafia? I dont know that is most important thing for be mafias :)
RD (11:51:57 - 18-01)
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shell at 11:40:38 on 18/01:
What Gravano did was a logical step, they felt like they should get rid of righelli, so did they. ISPP was an excuse and to be honest, i think families don't even need an excuse to shoot, so that is ok.

About families which gave words and then acted otherwise, we will see them later. Because it is another issue, isn't it same in real world ? when you give a word and then don't keep that, your action bites you back now or later.

Rip all righelli members died so far.

You guys did great and we will be back this version or the next one, time will show which one it will be.

Big thanks go out to tempestuoso, although it was a certain death in the end, they jumped in, no matter what. I also thank Leone, despite their size they have helped us much more than we expected so far.

Anyway, BBS!

imo i like you and you know that but if you always keep your word , you aint gonna go far in this game , mafia can be about honor but never about full honesty . The reason i reply to this post its cuz i like righelli and you showed today how hard it is to get you guys down , this was just pure strategy sometimes backfire , sometimes dont. If we were bloods you had reason but friendship like i said before its outside the game.
Regards we will keep in touch.
PannaJunk Tokelau (11:49:56 - 18-01)
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shell at 11:40:38 on 18/01:
What Gravano did was a logical step, they felt like they should get rid of righelli, so did they. ISPP was an excuse and to be honest, i think families don't even need an excuse to shoot, so that is ok.

About families which gave words and then acted otherwise, we will see them later. Because it is another issue, isn't it same in real world ? when you give a word and then don't keep that, your action bites you back now or later.

Rip all righelli members died so far.

You guys did great and we will be back this version or the next one, time will show which one it will be.

Big thanks go out to tempestuoso, although it was a certain death in the end, they jumped in, no matter what. I also thank Leone, despite their size they have helped us much more than we expected so far.

Anyway, BBS!


Like Righelli gave their word all the time ? Even had back up fams on Messina incase we would do something in ISPP war ? Idd you get what you deserve Shell.
shell (11:40:38 - 18-01)
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What Gravano did was a logical step, they felt like they should get rid of righelli, so did they. ISPP was an excuse and to be honest, i think families don't even need an excuse to shoot, so that is ok.

About families which gave words and then acted otherwise, we will see them later. Because it is another issue, isn't it same in real world ? when you give a word and then don't keep that, your action bites you back now or later.

Rip all righelli members died so far.

You guys did great and we will be back this version or the next one, time will show which one it will be.

Big thanks go out to tempestuoso, although it was a certain death in the end, they jumped in, no matter what. I also thank Leone, despite their size they have helped us much more than we expected so far.

Anyway, BBS!

Anonymous (11:39:31 - 18-01)
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ElMariachi at 10:33:03 on 18/01:
Anonymous at 09:10:36 on 18/01:
ElMariachi at 02:30:50 on 18/01:
Leonhart at 23:09:42 on 17/01:
ElMariachi at 22:44:46 on 17/01:
Anonymous at 20:36:45 on 17/01:
If its a version in which Righelli is up and Conflict is not Righelli will be screwed sooner or later. Cant remember otherwise.

Well I remember a version where Righelli shot a fam of the former pact, i think it was Liberta ? ever since that I can imagine the relationships with the former pact haven't been as strong as they used to be, even after they decided to blood Messina for the greater good. Hitting ISPP yesterday prolly didn't benefit to those relationships eiter ...

We did shoot Liberta in 3.4, they shot Venutti, no other possibility. And we were not part of any pact. Not back then, and not now.

And now we had to shoot ISPP, we had intel they were planning to use us against some other fams then dispose of us. So it was pretty clear what we had to do.

As for the Messina bloodship, I cannot answer since I only joined back the top a couple weeks after the version started. But surely this was not how I imagined things would work out. They are sneaky dudes, but very experienced and I guess we all thought we could benefit from the bloodship. Plus, it's also good for the game, if it's always same bloods and same enemies, the game gets too dull.

Cheers.

Actually i was talking about the original pact which righelli was a part of in 3.3 the same pact ppl have been hunting for several versions even when there wasn't a pact anymore. but that was most likely before your time as a righelli top, so yeah the 3.4 action of shooting liberta that also was a part of the original pact kinda broke those relationships I guess ...

as for shooting ISPP prolly not a bad move, I wouldn't be surprised if they did have plans to shoot you guys, but in the end it seems you both got played in a tactical way
Original pact in 3.3? Silly you.
CCCE was first real pact.

Dude it must be hard to read huh? I clearly stated original pact, not first pact ever and it clearly says the one from 3.3, the one ppl have been wining about for ever since they won that version, also referred to as the "pussypact". You seen ppl still talk about Cobras the last couple of versions perhaps ? Besides I clearly mentioned the Liberta issue in 3.4 and you do know they where part of a totally different pact, right? back in the days when they where still playing against the CCCE guys ...

Im sorry to disappoint you all even ccce wasn't the first pact ever actually ... And yes against all odds ppl still talk about Cobras usually in context of "Dude remember the good ol' days when we knew who is banging who " but its still something :P
Anonymous (11:38:49 - 18-01)
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lol really gay war
B|Jack Turkey (11:29:49 - 18-01)
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Alejandro at 09:16:29 on 18/01:
gode at 09:13:23 on 18/01:
with that action, Memento deserved every possible action against them.

i don't believe in that "loosing respect of xx" shit. but i believe every legal/illegal way against them is ok for me from now on.
haha, rip gode ; you already hjed them once, ask mralex and b|jack .so what do you speak about every legal/illegal things ? i do not know anything worst than hj .
Grow up child !


Alejandro I dont know who are you but I am sure you dont know this game much, you spoke about hj 2 version ago , that was fail ? That was succes if you dont know, you can ask me I can explain you,I am not sure you would understand or not.. Finally they deserved hjack and we gave them What deserves
pact member with honor (11:28:29 - 18-01)
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Anonymous at 08:25:05 on 18/01:
pact member with honor at 08:09:29 on 18/01:
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Valerio , Rogero , Trafficante , Leone we will kill you guys when we recover. so cease fire = your dead sentence , do not trust to our pussy and liar tops.

if you have balls , go on shooting us , coz i will shoot your good accs on my own with my friends when we have some more bullets...

dont you think this wil be hard? considering it will be a 1 man action :')

4 actually ;)
Anonymous (10:52:47 - 18-01)
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what about leone?war is finish for them?
ElMariachi Holy See (Vatican City State) (10:33:03 - 18-01)
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Anonymous at 09:10:36 on 18/01:
ElMariachi at 02:30:50 on 18/01:
Leonhart at 23:09:42 on 17/01:
ElMariachi at 22:44:46 on 17/01:
Anonymous at 20:36:45 on 17/01:
If its a version in which Righelli is up and Conflict is not Righelli will be screwed sooner or later. Cant remember otherwise.

Well I remember a version where Righelli shot a fam of the former pact, i think it was Liberta ? ever since that I can imagine the relationships with the former pact haven't been as strong as they used to be, even after they decided to blood Messina for the greater good. Hitting ISPP yesterday prolly didn't benefit to those relationships eiter ...

We did shoot Liberta in 3.4, they shot Venutti, no other possibility. And we were not part of any pact. Not back then, and not now.

And now we had to shoot ISPP, we had intel they were planning to use us against some other fams then dispose of us. So it was pretty clear what we had to do.

As for the Messina bloodship, I cannot answer since I only joined back the top a couple weeks after the version started. But surely this was not how I imagined things would work out. They are sneaky dudes, but very experienced and I guess we all thought we could benefit from the bloodship. Plus, it's also good for the game, if it's always same bloods and same enemies, the game gets too dull.

Cheers.

Actually i was talking about the original pact which righelli was a part of in 3.3 the same pact ppl have been hunting for several versions even when there wasn't a pact anymore. but that was most likely before your time as a righelli top, so yeah the 3.4 action of shooting liberta that also was a part of the original pact kinda broke those relationships I guess ...

as for shooting ISPP prolly not a bad move, I wouldn't be surprised if they did have plans to shoot you guys, but in the end it seems you both got played in a tactical way
Original pact in 3.3? Silly you.
CCCE was first real pact.

Dude it must be hard to read huh? I clearly stated original pact, not first pact ever and it clearly says the one from 3.3, the one ppl have been wining about for ever since they won that version, also referred to as the "pussypact". You seen ppl still talk about Cobras the last couple of versions perhaps ? Besides I clearly mentioned the Liberta issue in 3.4 and you do know they where part of a totally different pact, right? back in the days when they where still playing against the CCCE guys ...
gode Turkey (09:28:31 - 18-01)
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Alejandro at 09:16:29 on 18/01:
gode at 09:13:23 on 18/01:
with that action, Memento deserved every possible action against them.

i don't believe in that "loosing respect of xx" shit. but i believe every legal/illegal way against them is ok for me from now on.
haha, rip gode ; you already hjed them once, ask mralex and b|jack .so what do you speak about every legal/illegal things ? i do not know anything worst than hj .
Grow up child !

i'm member of venture from 3.1 until now and i haven't tried any hj until today.
hj, suicide with dupes everything is ok for me bro. next version if they build up their fam and stand 1 week, pm me from mirc i will send 10m to memento boss

and also i should add, we have shot-been shot by many fams for last 6 versions. Liberta for example, we shot them many times and they shot us everytime they had opportunity. i didn't react like that before. so your comments on growing up doesn't interest me so much.
Alejandro Bahamas (09:16:29 - 18-01)
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gode at 09:13:23 on 18/01:
with that action, Memento deserved every possible action against them.

i don't believe in that "loosing respect of xx" shit. but i believe every legal/illegal way against them is ok for me from now on.
haha, rip gode ; you already hjed them once, ask mralex and b|jack .so what do you speak about every legal/illegal things ? i do not know anything worst than hj .
Grow up child !
gode Turkey (09:13:23 - 18-01)
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with that action, Memento deserved every possible action against them.

i don't believe in that "loosing respect of xx" shit. but i believe every legal/illegal way against them is ok for me from now on.
Anonymous (09:10:43 - 18-01)
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Alejandro at 07:48:05 on 18/01:
Memento lost their 24 brugs & 6 chiefs during - 11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT! - , and they joined this war to prevent their possible future enemy's grow up. This is just a game and people spoke noobish like how memento get respect back.; what do you expect when some fams killed you, and you are still up with a bunch of ppl .
Respect Memento, at least they showed they allways fire, even they are almost dead _o_

You spelled pathetic wrong.

Yeah shooting low ranks is really respectful. Maybe you should edit your post into 'at least they showed they allways fire on low ranks'
Anonymous (09:10:36 - 18-01)
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ElMariachi at 02:30:50 on 18/01:
Leonhart at 23:09:42 on 17/01:
ElMariachi at 22:44:46 on 17/01:
Anonymous at 20:36:45 on 17/01:
If its a version in which Righelli is up and Conflict is not Righelli will be screwed sooner or later. Cant remember otherwise.

Well I remember a version where Righelli shot a fam of the former pact, i think it was Liberta ? ever since that I can imagine the relationships with the former pact haven't been as strong as they used to be, even after they decided to blood Messina for the greater good. Hitting ISPP yesterday prolly didn't benefit to those relationships eiter ...

We did shoot Liberta in 3.4, they shot Venutti, no other possibility. And we were not part of any pact. Not back then, and not now.

And now we had to shoot ISPP, we had intel they were planning to use us against some other fams then dispose of us. So it was pretty clear what we had to do.

As for the Messina bloodship, I cannot answer since I only joined back the top a couple weeks after the version started. But surely this was not how I imagined things would work out. They are sneaky dudes, but very experienced and I guess we all thought we could benefit from the bloodship. Plus, it's also good for the game, if it's always same bloods and same enemies, the game gets too dull.

Cheers.

Actually i was talking about the original pact which righelli was a part of in 3.3 the same pact ppl have been hunting for several versions even when there wasn't a pact anymore. but that was most likely before your time as a righelli top, so yeah the 3.4 action of shooting liberta that also was a part of the original pact kinda broke those relationships I guess ...

as for shooting ISPP prolly not a bad move, I wouldn't be surprised if they did have plans to shoot you guys, but in the end it seems you both got played in a tactical way
Original pact in 3.3? Silly you.
CCCE was first real pact.
Anonymous (08:25:05 - 18-01)
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pact member with honor at 08:09:29 on 18/01:
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Valerio , Rogero , Trafficante , Leone we will kill you guys when we recover. so cease fire = your dead sentence , do not trust to our pussy and liar tops.

if you have balls , go on shooting us , coz i will shoot your good accs on my own with my friends when we have some more bullets...

dont you think this wil be hard? considering it will be a 1 man action :')
pact member with honor (08:09:29 - 18-01)
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Valerio , Rogero , Trafficante , Leone we will kill you guys when we recover. so cease fire = your dead sentence , do not trust to our pussy and liar tops.

if you have balls , go on shooting us , coz i will shoot your good accs on my own with my friends when we have some more bullets...
Alejandro Bahamas (07:48:05 - 18-01)
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Memento lost their 24 brugs & 6 chiefs during - 11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT! - , and they joined this war to prevent their possible future enemy's grow up. This is just a game and people spoke noobish like how memento get respect back.; what do you expect when some fams killed you, and you are still up with a bunch of ppl .
Respect Memento, at least they showed they allways fire, even they are almost dead _o_
PannaJunk Tokelau (07:45:53 - 18-01)
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