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The so called pact of 3.4 and their supporting families back then are being shot by a new massive force, after plans leaked that "the pact" was going to shoot first.
Among the first attackers where the Marazzino and Yigidos alliances, who targetted Vincitori, Conflict and the Liberta alliance.
Because of leaked plans, Vincitori, Liberta and their bloods were already on standby, resulting in a quick counter.
Because of the number of families involved and the downtime this war was utter chaos, but I'll try to make a detailed account.
Marazzino+, Yigidos+, Gelibolu+ → Vincitori, Liberta+
Revelations → Conflict
The Supremazia and Lucchese alliances countered quickly for their bloods, resulting in:
Supremazia, Messina, Lucchese/Squad → Blacksea, Yigidos
Memento and Samagono jumped in to help conflict
Memento, Samagono → Revelations
Righelli and Bruinsma helped their blood too by shooting Kurosawa. Kuro however denied shooting at Conflict.
Righelli, Bruinsma → Kurosawa
Armada chose to shoot Gelibolu+
Armada → Gelibolu, Impero
Infragilis counter-countered for their blood Kurosawa
Infragilis → Bruinsma
Within an hour tho, Underground starting shooting Lucchese/Squad, after which Lucchese focussed on Underground while Supremazia and Messina focussed on Blacksea and Yigidos
Underground -> Lucchese/Squad
After Revelations was decimated, Conflict was again under attack.
Argonauts → Conflict
Before long, Supremazia and Armada found themselves under attack too, so they dropped their targets as well and defended themselves against Vertigo, Venture and Xzone
Venture, Xzone, Vertigo → Supremazia, Messina, Armada
During this war, 2 hijacks occurred as well, both Vertigo and Goldenarmy.
After the war started the servers of omerta went down. Rumours started that the servers got down due a DDoS attack.
Bramblerose created a news post about what happend after the servers got up again.
2 days later, the shooting has stopped. With both attackers and defenders decimated, this war has no clear winner.
Among the first attackers where the Marazzino and Yigidos alliances, who targetted Vincitori, Conflict and the Liberta alliance.
Because of leaked plans, Vincitori, Liberta and their bloods were already on standby, resulting in a quick counter.
Because of the number of families involved and the downtime this war was utter chaos, but I'll try to make a detailed account.
Marazzino+, Yigidos+, Gelibolu+ → Vincitori, Liberta+
Revelations → Conflict
The Supremazia and Lucchese alliances countered quickly for their bloods, resulting in:
Supremazia, Messina, Lucchese/Squad → Blacksea, Yigidos
Memento and Samagono jumped in to help conflict
Memento, Samagono → Revelations
Righelli and Bruinsma helped their blood too by shooting Kurosawa. Kuro however denied shooting at Conflict.
Righelli, Bruinsma → Kurosawa
Armada chose to shoot Gelibolu+
Armada → Gelibolu, Impero
Infragilis counter-countered for their blood Kurosawa
Infragilis → Bruinsma
Within an hour tho, Underground starting shooting Lucchese/Squad, after which Lucchese focussed on Underground while Supremazia and Messina focussed on Blacksea and Yigidos
Underground -> Lucchese/Squad
After Revelations was decimated, Conflict was again under attack.
Argonauts → Conflict
Before long, Supremazia and Armada found themselves under attack too, so they dropped their targets as well and defended themselves against Vertigo, Venture and Xzone
Venture, Xzone, Vertigo → Supremazia, Messina, Armada
During this war, 2 hijacks occurred as well, both Vertigo and Goldenarmy.
After the war started the servers of omerta went down. Rumours started that the servers got down due a DDoS attack.
Bramblerose created a news post about what happend after the servers got up again.
2 days later, the shooting has stopped. With both attackers and defenders decimated, this war has no clear winner.
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News post from Barafranca
Dear all,
Some players found it necessary to ddos attack Omerta last night. You all experienced the downtime caused by this attack.
During this attack a war was going on, we know that after the downtime players find themselves dead when they tried to login again. As far as we can see all these killings took place just before and just after the downtime.
We’re still investigating the matter and will give you an update as soon as we know more ourselves.
I’m really sorry for the inconvenience this has caused.
Bramblerose
Dear all,
Some players found it necessary to ddos attack Omerta last night. You all experienced the downtime caused by this attack.
During this attack a war was going on, we know that after the downtime players find themselves dead when they tried to login again. As far as we can see all these killings took place just before and just after the downtime.
We’re still investigating the matter and will give you an update as soon as we know more ourselves.
I’m really sorry for the inconvenience this has caused.
Bramblerose
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| War started on: 20:25:00 04-05-2012 | War ended on: 11:05:02 07-05-2012 |
| Bullet difference: -92,579,854 | War duration: 2d 14h 40m |
| Money difference: -$7,012,388,625 | Players died: 841 |
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zenga (02:43:32 - 06-05)
Anonymous (01:40:35 - 06-05)
Anonymous at 01:29:14 on 06/05:
Well I'm not Zenga regardless you would be correct that there is no sure-fire way to protect from a DDOS attack however it is rather easy to defend one. Defending against one is as simple as seeing the numerous malicious attempts and setting up a firewall rule to drop those packets. Its how some anti-ddos systems work they look for abnormal requests coming in rapidly and drop them before the server actually handles them. Likewise Omerta could have seen the offenders and setup a firewall to drop the malicious packets(exactly how you determine what is malicious or not varies on what exactly is being done) It doesn't prevent any future attack but it does stop a present ongoing attack.
Anonymous at 00:49:29 on 06/05:
So how did the admins manage to 'fix' the servers so fast while there was a ddos attack? I've always thought you couldn't really defend yourself against a DDos attack unless you have enough server capacity. And since omerta went down it means they didn't have the capacity, so how to fix such thing then? Zenga to enlight my lack of knowledge here? :)
So how did the admins manage to 'fix' the servers so fast while there was a ddos attack? I've always thought you couldn't really defend yourself against a DDos attack unless you have enough server capacity. And since omerta went down it means they didn't have the capacity, so how to fix such thing then? Zenga to enlight my lack of knowledge here? :)
Appreciate you're sharing the knowledge here, its hard to form an oppinion about things you don't know anything about!
Anonymous (01:29:14 - 06-05)
Anonymous at 00:49:29 on 06/05:
So how did the admins manage to 'fix' the servers so fast while there was a ddos attack? I've always thought you couldn't really defend yourself against a DDos attack unless you have enough server capacity. And since omerta went down it means they didn't have the capacity, so how to fix such thing then? Zenga to enlight my lack of knowledge here? :)
So how did the admins manage to 'fix' the servers so fast while there was a ddos attack? I've always thought you couldn't really defend yourself against a DDos attack unless you have enough server capacity. And since omerta went down it means they didn't have the capacity, so how to fix such thing then? Zenga to enlight my lack of knowledge here? :)
Anonymous (00:49:29 - 06-05)
So how did the admins manage to 'fix' the servers so fast while there was a ddos attack? I've always thought you couldn't really defend yourself against a DDos attack unless you have enough server capacity. And since omerta went down it means they didn't have the capacity, so how to fix such thing then? Zenga to enlight my lack of knowledge here? :)
DDOS attack to the servers of barafranca....
i think admins consider them selves inocent terrorists and that the pact is the 'anonumous' hacktivists.
i think admins consider them selves inocent terrorists and that the pact is the 'anonumous' hacktivists.
Slow (00:09:45 - 06-05)
FlowzZ at 22:52:30 on 05/05:
I try my best x')
dark at 22:39:13 on 05/05:
DDOS attack was awesome :P RIP Who died in war. But if really attackerz can menage the site down for their benefith it shows they prepared as hell. And that points evil might have right to say the war is leaked for sure. Still there were some advantages for defenders cause they had more time and it was trick for attackerz gone mad and became stressy take wrong decisions and fought without tactics and they lost their mood. It was freaky, probably when defenders settling their defence line all attackerz was in new to shout at admins, so in that point there were some avantages for the defenders. But they could manage to use DDOS attack to hold the site, hmm, it's kinda awesome tactical move, aint it?
Anyway it was great war thnks who could menage it from both side and ripperzors...
P.S. Flowzzie ur really homo
DDOS attack was awesome :P RIP Who died in war. But if really attackerz can menage the site down for their benefith it shows they prepared as hell. And that points evil might have right to say the war is leaked for sure. Still there were some advantages for defenders cause they had more time and it was trick for attackerz gone mad and became stressy take wrong decisions and fought without tactics and they lost their mood. It was freaky, probably when defenders settling their defence line all attackerz was in new to shout at admins, so in that point there were some avantages for the defenders. But they could manage to use DDOS attack to hold the site, hmm, it's kinda awesome tactical move, aint it?
Anyway it was great war thnks who could menage it from both side and ripperzors...
P.S. Flowzzie ur really homo
I try my best x')
STOP FLIRTING WITH MY WIFEY DARK, U STRAIGHT MAN ! :(
Anonymous at 23:40:52 on 05/05:
White pages where the result of people hammering the servers beyond their capacity, thats always the case after resets etc.
And now suddenly 2 decent sized wars cause the entire serverpark to go down for hours?
Get real.
They claimed they got ddosed, which is surely possible, and now its a cover up for their own failure?
You can argue that neither side had a bonus from such a thing, thats fine.
Doesnt mean it wasnt true.
White pages where the result of people hammering the servers beyond their capacity, thats always the case after resets etc.
And now suddenly 2 decent sized wars cause the entire serverpark to go down for hours?
Get real.
They claimed they got ddosed, which is surely possible, and now its a cover up for their own failure?
You can argue that neither side had a bonus from such a thing, thats fine.
Doesnt mean it wasnt true.
There is a big difference between 1000 people requesting crimes pages (which are probably a couple of lines of code) and 500 people requesting kill pages, which are 9 pages of code. Even if the revamp of the ka shortened the amount of code I'm sure it is still very sizeable. Or it could simply be that the re-write of the ka wasn't stress tested enough and it proved too much for the system to handle when it came to crunch time.
Novu (23:47:10 - 05-05)
Anonymous at 23:40:52 on 05/05:
White pages where the result of people hammering the servers beyond their capacity, thats always the case after resets etc.
And now suddenly 2 decent sized wars cause the entire serverpark to go down for hours?
Get real.
They claimed they got ddosed, which is surely possible, and now its a cover up for their own failure?
You can argue that neither side had a bonus from such a thing, thats fine.
Doesnt mean it wasnt true.
White pages where the result of people hammering the servers beyond their capacity, thats always the case after resets etc.
And now suddenly 2 decent sized wars cause the entire serverpark to go down for hours?
Get real.
They claimed they got ddosed, which is surely possible, and now its a cover up for their own failure?
You can argue that neither side had a bonus from such a thing, thats fine.
Doesnt mean it wasnt true.
Well, the thing that we can even consider that it's some cover up from admins should make the alarm bells go off from a business manager's perspective. It tells Omerta (as a company) that either their userbase are the 'conspiracy-type' (xD) or they as crew have failed so many times that when something serious happens for real, the users questions it = Their credibility is low, low, low.
Anonymous (23:40:52 - 05-05)
White pages where the result of people hammering the servers beyond their capacity, thats always the case after resets etc.
And now suddenly 2 decent sized wars cause the entire serverpark to go down for hours?
Get real.
They claimed they got ddosed, which is surely possible, and now its a cover up for their own failure?
You can argue that neither side had a bonus from such a thing, thats fine.
Doesnt mean it wasnt true.
And now suddenly 2 decent sized wars cause the entire serverpark to go down for hours?
Get real.
They claimed they got ddosed, which is surely possible, and now its a cover up for their own failure?
You can argue that neither side had a bonus from such a thing, thats fine.
Doesnt mean it wasnt true.
think biggst thing that screwed up servers yesterday was war on 2 versions had a big war dm 20 fams shot and .com had a huge war with like 30 fams involved tbh I think this caused to much stress for the servers :p
Plopmunker (23:30:27 - 05-05)
Stampgevaar at 23:26:34 on 05/05:
Plessers update The fulltime story!
Plessers update The fulltime story!
PLZ ALL THESE ACCOUNTS DEAD AND WE GET 1 SENTENCE WHY.
Stampgevaar (23:26:34 - 05-05)
Plessers update The fulltime story!
agree on the part that servers have been down several times and never any explanation about it and all of a sudden this time within 24 hrs there's a newspost about a ddos attack ... sounds smelly to me and imo a good move of the admins to blame the pact they didn't like to win as fast as they did last version and get them hated even more by the rest of the game, how convenient! ... It's like brambleroses newspost of fams should start shooting now they have the oppertunity after some admin moves a couple of versions back all over again :/
Novu (23:09:26 - 05-05)
I'll believe the DDoS rumours 100% when the crew publishes a copy of the police report.
It CAN be a DDoS attack, but like ReBorN points out, it could also just be shitty servers and a convenient way for admins to cover their worthlessness with the DDoS rumour.
It CAN be a DDoS attack, but like ReBorN points out, it could also just be shitty servers and a convenient way for admins to cover their worthlessness with the DDoS rumour.
dark at 22:39:13 on 05/05:
DDOS attack was awesome :P RIP Who died in war. But if really attackerz can menage the site down for their benefith it shows they prepared as hell. And that points evil might have right to say the war is leaked for sure. Still there were some advantages for defenders cause they had more time and it was trick for attackerz gone mad and became stressy take wrong decisions and fought without tactics and they lost their mood. It was freaky, probably when defenders settling their defence line all attackerz was in new to shout at admins, so in that point there were some avantages for the defenders. But they could manage to use DDOS attack to hold the site, hmm, it's kinda awesome tactical move, aint it?
Anyway it was great war thnks who could menage it from both side and ripperzors...
P.S. Flowzzie ur really homo
DDOS attack was awesome :P RIP Who died in war. But if really attackerz can menage the site down for their benefith it shows they prepared as hell. And that points evil might have right to say the war is leaked for sure. Still there were some advantages for defenders cause they had more time and it was trick for attackerz gone mad and became stressy take wrong decisions and fought without tactics and they lost their mood. It was freaky, probably when defenders settling their defence line all attackerz was in new to shout at admins, so in that point there were some avantages for the defenders. But they could manage to use DDOS attack to hold the site, hmm, it's kinda awesome tactical move, aint it?
Anyway it was great war thnks who could menage it from both side and ripperzors...
P.S. Flowzzie ur really homo
As a Top in a "defender" family, I can assure you we knew nothing of any attack on a server. But I can tell you it screwed us as much as anyone else. We had already started shooting Yigidos & Blacksea when the servers went down. It wasn't until the servers came up that Underground started shooting at us. In the meantime, some of our shooters went offline. So it's a little counter productive to attack the server without letting the other defenders know so we could plan accordingly also. Another reason why I think it was simply a server crash and not an attack.
Anonymous at 22:44:03 on 05/05:
Dude, stop thinking "logically'' and just read the omerta Latest news. Thats really going to save some time for you!
ReBorN at 22:21:51 on 05/05:
1st of all, I don't know shit about ddos attacks. I have no idea how long they are to setup or how complicated they are. But what makes more sense? A) someone attacked the servers to give themselves an advantage in the war? Or B) due to multiple massive wars multiple servers overloaded the servers and they went down?
I wasn't online when this happened but I heard IRC went down too. Would that be a result of the same ddos attack claim? Or just another example of poor servers?
Let's look at 2 very crucial facts: 1) this isn't the first time (and I'm sure not the last) that omertà servers have crashed for hours. 2) when the war started at 2032 there was an initial wave against Liberta & Vincitori. Within 5 minutes the deaths were even between attackers and defenders until the servers went down at 2046. When the servers came back up at 2211 the deaths were immediately even again between attackers and defenders.
Where is the advantage for the defenders? As eviL said, both sides had detectives running and were actively shooting so how did this benefit the defenders?
Now going back to my original statements about not knowing anything about ddos attacks, would it makes more sense (if the defenders were looking for an advantage) that they would initiate the ddos attack before the attackers fired? Wouldn't it make more sense to just set your dets for 3 hours and then do the attack for 2 hours to prevent the attackers from shooting at all?
If someone is smart enough to do such an attack, surely they would be smart enough to initiate said attack to maximize the benefit of it. The only benefit I see here was (maybe) the ability to call more ranks online to help out. But seeing as though the war leaked heavily most of the defenders were already online anyway so what's the point?
I think it is much more logical that the servers simply crashed and the admins saw an easy way out by confirming a popular rumor. Can you imagine the backlash to the admins if the acknowledged that their servers failed during the most important aspect of the game?
Think logically and look at the facts before jumping on the bandwagon of a rumor simply because it suits your argument.
1st of all, I don't know shit about ddos attacks. I have no idea how long they are to setup or how complicated they are. But what makes more sense? A) someone attacked the servers to give themselves an advantage in the war? Or B) due to multiple massive wars multiple servers overloaded the servers and they went down?
I wasn't online when this happened but I heard IRC went down too. Would that be a result of the same ddos attack claim? Or just another example of poor servers?
Let's look at 2 very crucial facts: 1) this isn't the first time (and I'm sure not the last) that omertà servers have crashed for hours. 2) when the war started at 2032 there was an initial wave against Liberta & Vincitori. Within 5 minutes the deaths were even between attackers and defenders until the servers went down at 2046. When the servers came back up at 2211 the deaths were immediately even again between attackers and defenders.
Where is the advantage for the defenders? As eviL said, both sides had detectives running and were actively shooting so how did this benefit the defenders?
Now going back to my original statements about not knowing anything about ddos attacks, would it makes more sense (if the defenders were looking for an advantage) that they would initiate the ddos attack before the attackers fired? Wouldn't it make more sense to just set your dets for 3 hours and then do the attack for 2 hours to prevent the attackers from shooting at all?
If someone is smart enough to do such an attack, surely they would be smart enough to initiate said attack to maximize the benefit of it. The only benefit I see here was (maybe) the ability to call more ranks online to help out. But seeing as though the war leaked heavily most of the defenders were already online anyway so what's the point?
I think it is much more logical that the servers simply crashed and the admins saw an easy way out by confirming a popular rumor. Can you imagine the backlash to the admins if the acknowledged that their servers failed during the most important aspect of the game?
Think logically and look at the facts before jumping on the bandwagon of a rumor simply because it suits your argument.
Dude, stop thinking "logically'' and just read the omerta Latest news. Thats really going to save some time for you!
You believe everything the admins tell you? I'm sure every akill they e ever made is legit too. I'm sure every mod in #help has vast knowledge of the game. I'm sure the goal of the owners is to provide a fun "free-to-play" game and not a business to milk money for shitty features. I'm sure they have better customer service then your local pub too. You get my point?
"Dude", read my post entirely next time and you would see I already addressed why the admins would claim a ddos attack.
Oh, and let's not forget that this isn't the first time a server has crashed and the admins were left with no explanation. How long did it take to fix all the 50* errors again?
dark at 22:39:13 on 05/05:
DDOS attack was awesome :P RIP Who died in war. But if really attackerz can menage the site down for their benefith it shows they prepared as hell. And that points evil might have right to say the war is leaked for sure. Still there were some advantages for defenders cause they had more time and it was trick for attackerz gone mad and became stressy take wrong decisions and fought without tactics and they lost their mood. It was freaky, probably when defenders settling their defence line all attackerz was in new to shout at admins, so in that point there were some avantages for the defenders. But they could manage to use DDOS attack to hold the site, hmm, it's kinda awesome tactical move, aint it?
Anyway it was great war thnks who could menage it from both side and ripperzors...
P.S. Flowzzie ur really homo
DDOS attack was awesome :P RIP Who died in war. But if really attackerz can menage the site down for their benefith it shows they prepared as hell. And that points evil might have right to say the war is leaked for sure. Still there were some advantages for defenders cause they had more time and it was trick for attackerz gone mad and became stressy take wrong decisions and fought without tactics and they lost their mood. It was freaky, probably when defenders settling their defence line all attackerz was in new to shout at admins, so in that point there were some avantages for the defenders. But they could manage to use DDOS attack to hold the site, hmm, it's kinda awesome tactical move, aint it?
Anyway it was great war thnks who could menage it from both side and ripperzors...
P.S. Flowzzie ur really homo
I try my best x')
Anonymous (22:47:28 - 05-05)
Anonymous at 22:46:27 on 05/05:
Ooo you talk about geys huh? No idea what that is - But if your looking for a group of really happy people, join us @ #vincitori
!skullfuck EvilS
^^
EvilS at 20:06:44 on 05/05:
Yes Kurosawa died fast.Why?Bcs server was down and when it camed up all atc familys lost adventages bcs in meantime while omerta was down geypact somehow hired dets and organised themself.So the question is what will admins do and will admins finally learn to stop having influence on this fucking game.
rip both sides,geypact it was clear gey move \o
FlowzZ at 19:45:30 on 05/05:
You must not feed the troll.
You must not feed the troll.
You must not feed the troll.
Criminal at 19:39:53 on 05/05:
nr1 fam this war? you kidding me? they were one of the first to be lose all their brugs lolol
and btw you failed to honour your dead friend. shame on you!
Anonymous at 18:52:07 on 05/05:
kurosawa power =)))
nr1 fam this war :")
kurosawa power =)))
nr1 fam this war :")
nr1 fam this war? you kidding me? they were one of the first to be lose all their brugs lolol
and btw you failed to honour your dead friend. shame on you!
You must not feed the troll.
You must not feed the troll.
You must not feed the troll.
Yes Kurosawa died fast.Why?Bcs server was down and when it camed up all atc familys lost adventages bcs in meantime while omerta was down geypact somehow hired dets and organised themself.So the question is what will admins do and will admins finally learn to stop having influence on this fucking game.
rip both sides,geypact it was clear gey move \o
Ooo you talk about geys huh? No idea what that is - But if your looking for a group of really happy people, join us @ #vincitori
!skullfuck EvilS
^^
Anonymous (22:46:27 - 05-05)
EvilS at 20:06:44 on 05/05:
Yes Kurosawa died fast.Why?Bcs server was down and when it camed up all atc familys lost adventages bcs in meantime while omerta was down geypact somehow hired dets and organised themself.So the question is what will admins do and will admins finally learn to stop having influence on this fucking game.
rip both sides,geypact it was clear gey move \o
FlowzZ at 19:45:30 on 05/05:
You must not feed the troll.
You must not feed the troll.
You must not feed the troll.
Criminal at 19:39:53 on 05/05:
nr1 fam this war? you kidding me? they were one of the first to be lose all their brugs lolol
and btw you failed to honour your dead friend. shame on you!
Anonymous at 18:52:07 on 05/05:
kurosawa power =)))
nr1 fam this war :")
kurosawa power =)))
nr1 fam this war :")
nr1 fam this war? you kidding me? they were one of the first to be lose all their brugs lolol
and btw you failed to honour your dead friend. shame on you!
You must not feed the troll.
You must not feed the troll.
You must not feed the troll.
Yes Kurosawa died fast.Why?Bcs server was down and when it camed up all atc familys lost adventages bcs in meantime while omerta was down geypact somehow hired dets and organised themself.So the question is what will admins do and will admins finally learn to stop having influence on this fucking game.
rip both sides,geypact it was clear gey move \o
Ooo you talk about geys huh? No idea what that is - But if your looking for a group of really happy people, come to #vincitori
!skullfuck EvilS
Anonymous (22:44:03 - 05-05)
ReBorN at 22:21:51 on 05/05:
1st of all, I don't know shit about ddos attacks. I have no idea how long they are to setup or how complicated they are. But what makes more sense? A) someone attacked the servers to give themselves an advantage in the war? Or B) due to multiple massive wars multiple servers overloaded the servers and they went down?
I wasn't online when this happened but I heard IRC went down too. Would that be a result of the same ddos attack claim? Or just another example of poor servers?
Let's look at 2 very crucial facts: 1) this isn't the first time (and I'm sure not the last) that omertà servers have crashed for hours. 2) when the war started at 2032 there was an initial wave against Liberta & Vincitori. Within 5 minutes the deaths were even between attackers and defenders until the servers went down at 2046. When the servers came back up at 2211 the deaths were immediately even again between attackers and defenders.
Where is the advantage for the defenders? As eviL said, both sides had detectives running and were actively shooting so how did this benefit the defenders?
Now going back to my original statements about not knowing anything about ddos attacks, would it makes more sense (if the defenders were looking for an advantage) that they would initiate the ddos attack before the attackers fired? Wouldn't it make more sense to just set your dets for 3 hours and then do the attack for 2 hours to prevent the attackers from shooting at all?
If someone is smart enough to do such an attack, surely they would be smart enough to initiate said attack to maximize the benefit of it. The only benefit I see here was (maybe) the ability to call more ranks online to help out. But seeing as though the war leaked heavily most of the defenders were already online anyway so what's the point?
I think it is much more logical that the servers simply crashed and the admins saw an easy way out by confirming a popular rumor. Can you imagine the backlash to the admins if the acknowledged that their servers failed during the most important aspect of the game?
Think logically and look at the facts before jumping on the bandwagon of a rumor simply because it suits your argument.
1st of all, I don't know shit about ddos attacks. I have no idea how long they are to setup or how complicated they are. But what makes more sense? A) someone attacked the servers to give themselves an advantage in the war? Or B) due to multiple massive wars multiple servers overloaded the servers and they went down?
I wasn't online when this happened but I heard IRC went down too. Would that be a result of the same ddos attack claim? Or just another example of poor servers?
Let's look at 2 very crucial facts: 1) this isn't the first time (and I'm sure not the last) that omertà servers have crashed for hours. 2) when the war started at 2032 there was an initial wave against Liberta & Vincitori. Within 5 minutes the deaths were even between attackers and defenders until the servers went down at 2046. When the servers came back up at 2211 the deaths were immediately even again between attackers and defenders.
Where is the advantage for the defenders? As eviL said, both sides had detectives running and were actively shooting so how did this benefit the defenders?
Now going back to my original statements about not knowing anything about ddos attacks, would it makes more sense (if the defenders were looking for an advantage) that they would initiate the ddos attack before the attackers fired? Wouldn't it make more sense to just set your dets for 3 hours and then do the attack for 2 hours to prevent the attackers from shooting at all?
If someone is smart enough to do such an attack, surely they would be smart enough to initiate said attack to maximize the benefit of it. The only benefit I see here was (maybe) the ability to call more ranks online to help out. But seeing as though the war leaked heavily most of the defenders were already online anyway so what's the point?
I think it is much more logical that the servers simply crashed and the admins saw an easy way out by confirming a popular rumor. Can you imagine the backlash to the admins if the acknowledged that their servers failed during the most important aspect of the game?
Think logically and look at the facts before jumping on the bandwagon of a rumor simply because it suits your argument.
Dude, stop thinking "logically'' and just read the omerta Latest news. Thats really going to save some time for you!
So how did the admins manage to 'fix' the servers so fast while there was a ddos attack? I've always thought you couldn't really defend yourself against a DDos attack unless you have enough server capacity. And since omerta went down it means they didn't have the capacity, so how to fix such thing then? Zenga to enlight my lack of knowledge here? :)
In my opinion there is very little one can say about all this. it remains pure speculation. Someone without any technical knowledge can buy a program online that can launch a ddos attack, costing only a few 100 dollars. One can assign a % of the botnet capacity to use, in order to make it much harder to stop the attack. Using such a tool ain't harder than playing a DVD on your computer. There is of course always the possibility that someone attacked who knew what he was doing. While in theory it might be easier to stop an attack from a single 'computer', I'd imagine that such a guy would also have the knowledge to make the attack last longer.
All depend on the goals (apparently there was another version that had a war last night as well, might be related to that), the capacity the attacker had and the way he carried out such an attack (since there are several ways to do it).
I dunno what reason omerta would have to lie about being ddos'd, nor do I see what a certain player would gain by ddosing omerta. Again it's pure speculation and it all doesn't make much sense to me.
There is a big difference between 1000 people requesting crimes pages (which are probably a couple of lines of code) and 500 people requesting kill pages, which are 9 pages of code. Even if the revamp of the ka shortened the amount of code I'm sure it is still very sizeable. Or it could simply be that the re-write of the ka wasn't stress tested enough and it proved too much for the system to handle when it came to crunch time.
That could be very well true, but it might very well be not.