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27-02 War vs 'The Pact'
Author: Kyra
Last updated: 4635d 0h 29m 35s ago by Rix
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Version: 3.3
Involved families: Anathema, Carneglia, Correptio, Infragilis, Kamikaze, Kurosawa, Laboratory, Purgatory, Republica, Syndrum, Vertigo, Yalta, Bruinsma, Caliente, Conflict, Conflictz, Equites, Escalada, Gravano, Guantanamo, Hangover, Liberta, Marangella, Marangello, Moretti, Oblivions, Presidential, Quirites, Righelli, Selenga, Senatores, Tremps, Vincitori, Kerberos
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Correptio, Republica, Laboratory, Syndrum, Vertigo, Yalta, Purgatory, Anathema, Kurosawa, Kamikaze, Carneglia united and opened fire at "The Pact"

Marangello + Marangella, Vincitori, Escalada, Conflict, Conflictz, Equites, Quirites, Senatores, Righelli, Moretti



Targets seem to be divided like this:

Yalta/Correptio/Purgatory/Vertigo vs Marangello+
Yalta/Correptio vs Vincitori+
Republica/Syndrum/Kurosawa+ vs Conflict+
Kurosawa+/Carneglia vs Righelli+



Bruinsma jumped in and is shooting at Kurosawa+

Liberta alliance jumped in and is shooting at Laboratory.

Presidential, Gravano, Caliente and Hangover jumped on Correptio/Republica.

Infragilis starting shooting at Conflict, but later moved to Bruinsma



Eventhough the odds seem to have stacked against the attackers Infragilis decided to jump in for them and is targetting Conflict.



Turnia up at the old HQ of Laboratory

Anathema changed to Anonymous which seems to contain members from several families who got shot down earlier this version, like: Gambino, Leviticus, Notte and Tempestuoso. - They left the war and are not involved in any shooting.

Mangano up at the old HQ of Correptio



Purgatory and Vertigo ceased fire with Marangello.

Vertigo started shooting at Conflict.



As a sidenote, it seems only 3 didn't join this massive war (yet?): Anadolu, Venutti and Vengeance.



List of ranks families have left at around 17 OT




Ilimitada started on HQ of Kamikaze

Kerberos who started on the HQ of Yalta got shot down and S.W.A.T started on it

Marvel started on the HQ of Republica



After a few boring hours, the defenders re-grouped and Quirites+ + Liberta+ organised a final blow against Carneglia
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trza (Kurosawa Top): Exactly in 3h enemy will be broken whit your hit, will be killed whit your bombs and swords, glory of Palermo, of our city will be HOLY, SOLDIERS, HEROES. Big PACT has deleted our Pokemons from their number army, our Marazzino has sacrificed for the honor of Kurosawa and Palermo,YOU don’t have anything to worry now, for your own lives because you are already dead. Long live king of Palermo, long live our city Palermo!

kajo (Correptio Top): We didnt have much options but, TRY. Much respect to shooter fams whose wanted to stand together against the 'sweet pact'. Still i have no idea whats some fams wanna achieve with licking tho. We have played with OUR own style, and will. Gratz to both sides for a great war.

Dv (Yalta Top): We were trying to push for this for quite some time, but better late than never. Gg to all Yaltans rubbin their elbows and to the other homos shooting tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE&feature=related

Fiser (Republica Top) We raped conf, was great fun, rip everybody on both sides.

slau (Syndrum Top): Its hard to win a game where the limit familys is 36 and 20 familys have a pact, we come here to do our own game not the others game so we decided to move. Thanks all CLS soldiers we did it great.

Grigoriy (Laboratory Top) Well, the idea was simple: if u arent in ally+ (pact) u are against them. We knew sooner or later we would be targets. As a Laboratory top i can say we have nothing against Conflict, in fact we have friends there, but we follow a diferent path, so we needed to act. Our bloods mara/grava seemed they didnt count a lot on us, but maybe i'm wrong, lets see if next time is diferent. We are new on .com, so i think for our first version we did great. It was a pleasure to play with Correptio and with my m8's from Syndrum. I'm sure we will make something together again. I didnt understood why Liberta+ shot at us if we focused on Conflict and they arent bloods with them, but thats something that isnt important now. A special thanks to my tops (from lab and syn), and to my members, that always have been optimistic with our presence here on .com. As in life, we are always learning, and im sure we learned something this time. Count on us for further versions. RIP all dead soldiers from atackers and defender, nice war.


/q sbanks | #beyond.info
statistics
War started on: 22:13:00 27-02-2012 War ended on: 22:47:05 29-02-2012
Bullet difference: -312,361,372 War duration: 2d 0h 34m
Money difference: -$23,670,325,089 Players died: 1,504




deaths
Dead Families:
[Kurosawa] Family down on 17:42 29-02
[Kamikaze] Family down on 01:31 29-02
[Kerberos] Family down on 00:10 29-02
[Republica] Family down on 23:12 28-02
[Yalta] Family down on 21:08 28-02
[Syndrum] Family down on 19:23 28-02
[Correptio] Family down on 14:06 28-02
[Laboratory] Family down on 13:45 28-02
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Anathema | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 21
Bruinsma | swin: 3 | assa: 4 | lc: 5 | chief: 6 | brug: 51 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 789
Caliente | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 34
Carneglia | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 1 | brug: 35 | cd: 0 | gf: 2 | points: 546
Conflict | swin: 5 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 9 | brug: 60 | cd: 0 | gf: 2 | points: 949
Conflictz | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 16 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 244
Correptio | swin: 3 | assa: 3 | lc: 2 | chief: 3 | brug: 81 | cd: 0 | gf: 3 | points: 1,210
Equites | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 5 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 73
Escalada | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 112
Gravano | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 99
Guantanamo | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 15
Hangover | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 57
Infragilis | swin: 0 | assa: 2 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 12 | cd: 0 | gf: 2 | points: 246
Kamikaze | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 15 | cd: 1 | gf: 2 | points: 300
Kerberos | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 21
Kurosawa | swin: 4 | assa: 3 | lc: 4 | chief: 4 | brug: 70 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 1,015
Laboratory | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 6 | chief: 4 | brug: 108 | cd: 0 | gf: 4 | points: 1,611
Liberta | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 12 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 203
Marangella | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 2 | brug: 4 | cd: 2 | gf: 0 | points: 115
Marangello | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 2 | brug: 55 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 778
Moretti | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 5 | cd: 4 | gf: 0 | points: 151
Presidential | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 9 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 118
Purgatory | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 191
Quirites | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 2 | brug: 27 | cd: 0 | gf: 2 | points: 443
Republica | swin: 0 | assa: 2 | lc: 1 | chief: 5 | brug: 50 | cd: 1 | gf: 4 | points: 863
Righelli | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 42 | cd: 0 | gf: 2 | points: 634
Senatores | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 8 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 138
Syndrum | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 4 | chief: 7 | brug: 102 | cd: 0 | gf: 4 | points: 1,547
Tremps | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 80
Vertigo | swin: 3 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 14 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 222
Vincitori | swin: 1 | assa: 5 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 23 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 323
Yalta | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 5 | brug: 55 | cd: 1 | gf: 6 | points: 987
Total | swin: 31 | assa: 25 | lc: 36 | chief: 58 | brug: 894 | cd: 11 | gf: 43 | points: 14,135
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JTR Denmark (15:25:09 - 02-03)
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Deston1 at 15:08:52 on 02/03:
Then I was ill informed by tops stating you were bloods although yes, I realise I probably mixed up one of the fams mentioned with tempestuoso. But I must agree, families suiciding one at a time is never a good idea. If maraz had shown some patience and waited a day, or purga had not backed out then the results of this war could have been much different.

Fair enough, everyone can make mistakes, but the bottomline is, we weren't blooded to Gambino or Leviticus, so we didn't let them down. And if we had been bloods with them, I still don't think we would have let them down by declining an invitation to a suicidal war, if we didn't find it wise to suicide - as we also told Tempest. They decided to go ahead with the war, which ofcourse sucked, since they died, but they did also understand, that we didn't share their point of view.

Being bloods is not equal to doing exactly as the others, and if one takes a decision, you don't approve of, then you don't have to back that decision up. If you ask/demand that of your bloods, then you are the bad blood, not the family which acts as an individual.
For the record, then Tempest never asked us to suicide nor were pissed we didn't do so afterwards!
Deston1 (15:08:52 - 02-03)
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JTR at 14:51:56 on 02/03:
Deston1 at 14:30:11 on 02/03:
shell at 11:08:39 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 10:22:55 on 02/03:
Stodder at 09:51:44 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 08:56:04 on 02/03:
If bruinsma didn't involve in that war conflict and righelli would be down.

Respect Bruinsma, you guys saved 2 bloods. Stop hating now please.

And screwed over 2 other bloods.

Nah, Bruinsma really are the lowest dogs this version has seen, thus far.
They could have done something for the greater good but instead licked up to Conflict.
Really, respect would be totally misplaced, if you put it into this puppets of Conflict.

who are other 2 ?, they got only 4 bloods which are krays (rip), righelli, conflict and purgatory.
When it is your bloods who don't help your family, they are the lowest ones, bad blood ( with the lightest word)
When the bloods of family you attack at, jumps into defend their bloods, they are again the lowest ones and bla bla bla.
Imo, the lowest dog around here is you and people like you, noone else. Bruinsma is one of the few families i respect and that is the reason why we become bloods with them without questioning adv/disadv of the deal.

Anyway, what i wonder is, after making up lies in your little world, do you also begin to believe in it after a while ?
Out of curiousity shell, did you blood them before or after bruinsmas bloods (latobuio, leviticus & gambino) died?

Yes, I know supposedly the bloodship with dig ended just before lato went down (as I heard from some tops while some of their other tops didn't even know), but I'm sure there were reasons.

Anyway Bruinsma shot well last war and at least they didn't let 6 bloods die and never shoot at all until they got hijacked (complexio).

We were not blooded to Gambino and Leviticus, Deston, and when Gambino and Tempest decided to suicide, Tempest understood, that we didn't feel it was the right thing to do, and didn't expect us to join them just because we were bloods. They respected that we thought it was wiser to play different. We would ofcourse also never expect a blood to suicide just because we feel like it and attack someone we don't like - if you do so, then you are not a good blood.
There is no hard feelings between Bruinsma and Tempest, which I bet Tempest tops will confirm, if you ask them.

If one has to suicide everytime one of your bloods do so, then you're not taking your own decisions as a family, but just following the other lemmings... It is every families right to decide if they want to join a suicide attack or not, but they shouldn't be blamed for chosing another path...
Then I was ill informed by tops stating you were bloods although yes, I realise I probably mixed up one of the fams mentioned with tempestuoso. But I must agree, families suiciding one at a time is never a good idea. If maraz had shown some patience and waited a day, or purga had not backed out then the results of this war could have been much different.
Anonymous (14:56:26 - 02-03)
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Anonymous at 13:27:04 on 02/03:
JTR at 12:57:52 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 12:24:50 on 02/03:
@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?

Buhu - last answer, I'll give to all the anonymous whiners, who has really fallen in love with us in this topic....

We don't suicide just because bloods suicide. Why should we? We are an individual family, and we like to take our own decisions - just because one acts stupid, it doesn't mean, that the rest have to follow. We aren't lemmings, right? Well besides from all those anonymous people in here, who just flame at those, the others are flaming at, without trying just to analyse the situation a bit and think as an individual. Then they might conclude something else.

We don't expect any of our bloods to waste their family, if we decide to suicide - like we don't suicide our family, just because our bloods take an irrational decision.

+ you will be the next aztec. you have already many enemies right now and so much grudge , in this version or maybe in next , you will be gangbanged for sure like as aztec and believe me mate , conflict will also watch your dead like as they watched aztec's ;)

conflict didnt watch aztec die, they were in war and being countered by 4 fams (they lost 50 brugs) so stop your ridiculous bs, and then conflict revenged aztec getting krays and marazzino destroyed, dont worry that everything is more then good between aztec and conflict.
JTR Denmark (14:51:56 - 02-03)
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Deston1 at 14:30:11 on 02/03:
shell at 11:08:39 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 10:22:55 on 02/03:
Stodder at 09:51:44 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 08:56:04 on 02/03:
If bruinsma didn't involve in that war conflict and righelli would be down.

Respect Bruinsma, you guys saved 2 bloods. Stop hating now please.

And screwed over 2 other bloods.

Nah, Bruinsma really are the lowest dogs this version has seen, thus far.
They could have done something for the greater good but instead licked up to Conflict.
Really, respect would be totally misplaced, if you put it into this puppets of Conflict.

who are other 2 ?, they got only 4 bloods which are krays (rip), righelli, conflict and purgatory.
When it is your bloods who don't help your family, they are the lowest ones, bad blood ( with the lightest word)
When the bloods of family you attack at, jumps into defend their bloods, they are again the lowest ones and bla bla bla.
Imo, the lowest dog around here is you and people like you, noone else. Bruinsma is one of the few families i respect and that is the reason why we become bloods with them without questioning adv/disadv of the deal.

Anyway, what i wonder is, after making up lies in your little world, do you also begin to believe in it after a while ?
Out of curiousity shell, did you blood them before or after bruinsmas bloods (latobuio, leviticus & gambino) died?

Yes, I know supposedly the bloodship with dig ended just before lato went down (as I heard from some tops while some of their other tops didn't even know), but I'm sure there were reasons.

Anyway Bruinsma shot well last war and at least they didn't let 6 bloods die and never shoot at all until they got hijacked (complexio).

We were not blooded to Gambino and Leviticus, Deston, and when Gambino and Tempest decided to suicide, Tempest understood, that we didn't feel it was the right thing to do, and didn't expect us to join them just because we were bloods. They respected that we thought it was wiser to play different. We would ofcourse also never expect a blood to suicide just because we feel like it and attack someone we don't like - if you do so, then you are not a good blood.
There is no hard feelings between Bruinsma and Tempest, which I bet Tempest tops will confirm, if you ask them.

If one has to suicide everytime one of your bloods do so, then you're not taking your own decisions as a family, but just following the other lemmings... It is every families right to decide if they want to join a suicide attack or not, but they shouldn't be blamed for chosing another path...
Deston1 (14:30:11 - 02-03)
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shell at 11:08:39 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 10:22:55 on 02/03:
Stodder at 09:51:44 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 08:56:04 on 02/03:
If bruinsma didn't involve in that war conflict and righelli would be down.

Respect Bruinsma, you guys saved 2 bloods. Stop hating now please.

And screwed over 2 other bloods.

Nah, Bruinsma really are the lowest dogs this version has seen, thus far.
They could have done something for the greater good but instead licked up to Conflict.
Really, respect would be totally misplaced, if you put it into this puppets of Conflict.

who are other 2 ?, they got only 4 bloods which are krays (rip), righelli, conflict and purgatory.
When it is your bloods who don't help your family, they are the lowest ones, bad blood ( with the lightest word)
When the bloods of family you attack at, jumps into defend their bloods, they are again the lowest ones and bla bla bla.
Imo, the lowest dog around here is you and people like you, noone else. Bruinsma is one of the few families i respect and that is the reason why we become bloods with them without questioning adv/disadv of the deal.

Anyway, what i wonder is, after making up lies in your little world, do you also begin to believe in it after a while ?
Out of curiousity shell, did you blood them before or after bruinsmas bloods (latobuio, leviticus & gambino) died?

Yes, I know supposedly the bloodship with dig ended just before lato went down (as I heard from some tops while some of their other tops didn't even know), but I'm sure there were reasons.

Anyway Bruinsma shot well last war and at least they didn't let 6 bloods die and never shoot at all until they got hijacked (complexio).
JTR Denmark (14:05:36 - 02-03)
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zenga at 14:01:08 on 02/03:
JTR at 13:31:35 on 02/03:

Buhu - last answer, I'll give to all the anonymous whiners,

JTR at 13:31:35 on 02/03:Buhuhu. ...

Buhuhuhu, people should take your 'last answer' almost as serious as your 'last beer before I go home'.


Haha, true, but I don't recall saying that too many times... ;)
zenga (14:01:08 - 02-03)
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JTR at 13:31:35 on 02/03:

Buhu - last answer, I'll give to all the anonymous whiners,

JTR at 13:31:35 on 02/03:Buhuhu. ...

Buhuhuhu, people should take your 'last answer' almost as serious as your 'last beer before I go home'.
JTR Denmark (13:31:35 - 02-03)
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Anonymous at 13:27:04 on 02/03:
JTR at 12:57:52 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 12:24:50 on 02/03:
@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?

Buhu - last answer, I'll give to all the anonymous whiners, who has really fallen in love with us in this topic....

We don't suicide just because bloods suicide. Why should we? We are an individual family, and we like to take our own decisions - just because one acts stupid, it doesn't mean, that the rest have to follow. We aren't lemmings, right? Well besides from all those anonymous people in here, who just flame at those, the others are flaming at, without trying just to analyse the situation a bit and think as an individual. Then they might conclude something else.

We don't expect any of our bloods to waste their family, if we decide to suicide - like we don't suicide our family, just because our bloods take an irrational decision.

+ you will be the next aztec. you have already many enemies right now and so much grudge , in this version or maybe in next , you will be gangbanged for sure like as aztec and believe me mate , conflict will also watch your dead like as they watched aztec's ;)

Buhuhu. Then we will be the next Aztec and we will die. Shit happens. We have tried to die before. We have tried to play with the other side before - and they backstab too. So basically we are just playing our own game. Perhaps some should learn from that.

And just a little extra info for all of you haters, then Kurosawa has spent the last 3 weeks up to the war threatening us to hand out a list of ex lato-members in Bruinsma, whcih we ofcourse didn't do. So tell me why, should we support them or their side? Especially when they shoot our bloods? They more or less asked for us to shoot at them.
Anonymous (13:29:44 - 02-03)
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@ JTR

conflict shot your bloods at the beginning , then isnt it betrayal and disloyalty , to be bloods with your bloods' killer?

so pls stop the crap and admit that your fam is a pussy fam which can do anything to survive...
Anonymous (13:27:04 - 02-03)
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JTR at 12:57:52 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 12:24:50 on 02/03:
@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?

Buhu - last answer, I'll give to all the anonymous whiners, who has really fallen in love with us in this topic....

We don't suicide just because bloods suicide. Why should we? We are an individual family, and we like to take our own decisions - just because one acts stupid, it doesn't mean, that the rest have to follow. We aren't lemmings, right? Well besides from all those anonymous people in here, who just flame at those, the others are flaming at, without trying just to analyse the situation a bit and think as an individual. Then they might conclude something else.

We don't expect any of our bloods to waste their family, if we decide to suicide - like we don't suicide our family, just because our bloods take an irrational decision.

+ you will be the next aztec. you have already many enemies right now and so much grudge , in this version or maybe in next , you will be gangbanged for sure like as aztec and believe me mate , conflict will also watch your dead like as they watched aztec's ;)
JTR Denmark (13:24:53 - 02-03)
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Anonymous at 13:02:20 on 02/03:
JTR|NotLoggedIn at 11:32:31 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 10:22:55 on 02/03:
Stodder at 09:51:44 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 08:56:04 on 02/03:
If bruinsma didn't involve in that war conflict and righelli would be down.

Respect Bruinsma, you guys saved 2 bloods. Stop hating now please.

And screwed over 2 other bloods.

Nah, Bruinsma really are the lowest dogs this version has seen, thus far.
They could have done something for the greater good but instead licked up to Conflict.
Really, respect would be totally misplaced, if you put it into this puppets of Conflict.

I had decided not to reply to all these anonymous accusations, but changed my mind.

The greater good? Isn't that relative? It all depends on from what perspective you're looking. I think we did something for the greater good. It wasn't a big secret, that we are bloods with Conf. and Righelli, since it is stated at our fam.page, hence it shouldn't be the biggest surprise, that what we found the "greater good" was to help them no matter what other agenda the attackers had.

There isn't any universal greater good, since it's subjective and all depends on who you are asking...

But no matter what you can't call us lowest dogs - we backed our bloods and they are still alive. How can that ever be wrong?

So please stop flaming now.
We have heard, you didn't like, what we did. Fine! We didn't like that you shot our bloods, and all actions have a reaction. This time the reaction just didn't suit your idea of the greater good. Too bad.

I think this post and the other one of JTR a just a lot of words trying to justify chosing one blood over the other. An explenation which isnt really needed. Without Krays your position in the game wouldnt change much, while bruinsma knew that without conflict/righelli Bruinsma would be doomed. So its just a decision with survival in mind. Therefore instead of shooting for the fam, made from the goup who made it possible for bruinsma people to have a family in the first place (when they couldnt rise up independitly), they shot for the much bigger/stronger fams Conflict/righelli. Furthermore, pact is stronger/bigger then your other blood Purgatory, hence you shot for the pact against Purgatories side (while Purga was on attacking side).

Bruinsma shot to survive by chosing the pacts side over bloods. Any atempt to make it look like something else is useless. Nothing to do with greater goods (lol) just survival. 'Every action has a reaction' true, not shooting cuz its risky for your own life is a reaction too.


Very simple - we didn't expect to survive, when we entered this war, but fortunately did so, even though we took heavy fire. So no, we don't always play to survive, but yes, we do prefer to survive and decline for participating, when people go on suicidal missions.

If our bloods break our trust, and uses us to plan a counter in a war, where we shoots, then yes, we consider it betrayal and disloyalty, and no, we don't tend to find it ideal to join them in their suicide. Krays brought their death upon themselves, and they made certain we wouldn't suicide due to how they did it. We don't support sacrificing a lot of members, because a blood of ours acts stupid.

Now, continue to troll, I will shut this page down now - I don't find, that it takes me anywhere to keep on discussing with you.
Anonymous (13:24:29 - 02-03)
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JTR at 12:57:52 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 12:24:50 on 02/03:
@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?

Buhu - last answer, I'll give to all the anonymous whiners, who has really fallen in love with us in this topic....

We don't suicide just because bloods suicide. Why should we? We are an individual family, and we like to take our own decisions - just because one acts stupid, it doesn't mean, that the rest have to follow. We aren't lemmings, right? Well besides from all those anonymous people in here, who just flame at those, the others are flaming at, without trying just to analyse the situation a bit and think as an individual. Then they might conclude something else.

We don't expect any of our bloods to waste their family, if we decide to suicide - like we don't suicide our family, just because our bloods take an irrational decision.

you didnt answer that question. we want to know why did you take conflict as the blood , eventhough conflict killed your bloods at the beginning of the version?

isnt it honoruable to try to revenge for your blood instead of being bloods with your former bloods' killer?

answer this question , if you can...
Anonymous (13:10:41 - 02-03)
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Anonymous at 13:02:20 on 02/03:
JTR|NotLoggedIn at 11:32:31 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 10:22:55 on 02/03:
Stodder at 09:51:44 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 08:56:04 on 02/03:
If bruinsma didn't involve in that war conflict and righelli would be down.

Respect Bruinsma, you guys saved 2 bloods. Stop hating now please.

And screwed over 2 other bloods.

Nah, Bruinsma really are the lowest dogs this version has seen, thus far.
They could have done something for the greater good but instead licked up to Conflict.
Really, respect would be totally misplaced, if you put it into this puppets of Conflict.

I had decided not to reply to all these anonymous accusations, but changed my mind.

The greater good? Isn't that relative? It all depends on from what perspective you're looking. I think we did something for the greater good. It wasn't a big secret, that we are bloods with Conf. and Righelli, since it is stated at our fam.page, hence it shouldn't be the biggest surprise, that what we found the "greater good" was to help them no matter what other agenda the attackers had.

There isn't any universal greater good, since it's subjective and all depends on who you are asking...

But no matter what you can't call us lowest dogs - we backed our bloods and they are still alive. How can that ever be wrong?

So please stop flaming now.
We have heard, you didn't like, what we did. Fine! We didn't like that you shot our bloods, and all actions have a reaction. This time the reaction just didn't suit your idea of the greater good. Too bad.

I think this post and the other one of JTR a just a lot of words trying to justify chosing one blood over the other. An explenation which isnt really needed. Without Krays your position in the game wouldnt change much, while bruinsma knew that without conflict/righelli Bruinsma would be doomed. So its just a decision with survival in mind. Therefore instead of shooting for the fam, made from the goup who made it possible for bruinsma people to have a family in the first place (when they couldnt rise up independitly), they shot for the much bigger/stronger fams Conflict/righelli. Furthermore, pact is stronger/bigger then your other blood Purgatory, hence you shot for the pact against Purgatories side (while Purga was on attacking side).

Bruinsma shot to survive by chosing the pacts side over bloods. Any atempt to make it look like something else is useless. Nothing to do with greater goods (lol) just survival. 'Every action has a reaction' true, not shooting cuz its risky for your own life is a reaction too.
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JTR|NotLoggedIn at 11:32:31 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 10:22:55 on 02/03:
Stodder at 09:51:44 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 08:56:04 on 02/03:
If bruinsma didn't involve in that war conflict and righelli would be down.

Respect Bruinsma, you guys saved 2 bloods. Stop hating now please.

And screwed over 2 other bloods.

Nah, Bruinsma really are the lowest dogs this version has seen, thus far.
They could have done something for the greater good but instead licked up to Conflict.
Really, respect would be totally misplaced, if you put it into this puppets of Conflict.

I had decided not to reply to all these anonymous accusations, but changed my mind.

The greater good? Isn't that relative? It all depends on from what perspective you're looking. I think we did something for the greater good. It wasn't a big secret, that we are bloods with Conf. and Righelli, since it is stated at our fam.page, hence it shouldn't be the biggest surprise, that what we found the "greater good" was to help them no matter what other agenda the attackers had.

There isn't any universal greater good, since it's subjective and all depends on who you are asking...

But no matter what you can't call us lowest dogs - we backed our bloods and they are still alive. How can that ever be wrong?

So please stop flaming now.
We have heard, you didn't like, what we did. Fine! We didn't like that you shot our bloods, and all actions have a reaction. This time the reaction just didn't suit your idea of the greater good. Too bad.

I think this post and the other one of JTR a just a lot of words trying to justify chosing one blood over the other. An explenation which isnt really needed. Without Krays your position in the game wouldnt change much, while bruinsma knew that without conflict/righelli Bruinsma would be doomed. So its just a decision with survival in mind. Therefore instead of shooting for the fam, made from the goup who made it possible for bruinsma people to have a family in the first place (when they couldnt rise up independitly), they shot for the much bigger/stronger fams Conflict/righelli. Furthermore, pact is stronger/bigger then your other blood Purgatory, hence you shot for the pact against Purgatories side (while Purga was on attacking side).

Bruinsma shot to survive by chosing the pacts side over bloods. Any atempt to make it look like something else is useless. Nothing to do with greater goods (lol) just survival. 'Every action has a reaction' true, not shooting cuz its risky for your own life is a reaction too.
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JTR at 12:57:52 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 12:24:50 on 02/03:
@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?

Buhu - last answer, I'll give to all the anonymous whiners, who has really fallen in love with us in this topic....

We don't suicide just because bloods suicide. Why should we? We are an individual family, and we like to take our own decisions - just because one acts stupid, it doesn't mean, that the rest have to follow. We aren't lemmings, right? Well besides from all those anonymous people in here, who just flame at those, the others are flaming at, without trying just to analyse the situation a bit and think as an individual. Then they might conclude something else.

We don't expect any of our bloods to waste their family, if we decide to suicide - like we don't suicide our family, just because our bloods take an irrational decision.
All see that... If you cant handle you join then... lool
Anonymous (12:59:59 - 02-03)
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And Xtreme still lives xD
JTR Denmark (12:57:52 - 02-03)
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Anonymous at 12:24:50 on 02/03:
@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?

Buhu - last answer, I'll give to all the anonymous whiners, who has really fallen in love with us in this topic....

We don't suicide just because bloods suicide. Why should we? We are an individual family, and we like to take our own decisions - just because one acts stupid, it doesn't mean, that the rest have to follow. We aren't lemmings, right? Well besides from all those anonymous people in here, who just flame at those, the others are flaming at, without trying just to analyse the situation a bit and think as an individual. Then they might conclude something else.

We don't expect any of our bloods to waste their family, if we decide to suicide - like we don't suicide our family, just because our bloods take an irrational decision.
fghui (12:42:44 - 02-03)
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Anonymous at 12:26:16 on 02/03:
Anonymous at 12:24:50 on 02/03:
@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?
+1
Why not? Asslick not allowed.here ?
Anonymous (12:26:16 - 02-03)
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Anonymous at 12:24:50 on 02/03:
@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?
+1
Anonymous (12:24:50 - 02-03)
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@Bruinsma.

You had more bloods than just those four, remember? Who killed your other bloods? Why did you blood Conflict recently?