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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (11:04:25 - 07-04)
MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:
VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:
I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
So thr tax is being collected on all methods of payment in every country ?
DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:
I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
DenWatts (10:38:01 - 07-04)
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts (10:16:56 - 07-04)
ffs yes I am a spelling fucktard
DenWatts (10:16:38 - 07-04)
eeek nor for me, for more!
DenWatts (10:16:02 - 07-04)
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Anonymous (08:37:23 - 07-04)
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
yea 0,60 or smth like that :)
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts (08:21:29 - 07-04)
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
Solstice (07:50:45 - 07-04)
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
Dets hired, run!!
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
Mickgee aka mcgee (01:51:18 - 07-04)
Less dupes and more sociopaths next version. It's what I fap to.
Anonymous (18:33:07 - 06-04)
Solstice at 10:50:54 on 05/04:
If you make money less important than effort funding really isn't that big a problem. When you get 12m each day, but you can only buy 400 bullets an hour and 3000 a day from obay those 12m aren't going to do that much for you. If instead of that you have to put in a lot of effort to build a fam etc. You can have 10 accounts running on lackeys for you, it won't do you any good. I think that's where things go wrong atm, it actually pays to have an account that really doesn't do anything besides run lackeys.
Anonymous at 10:24:42 on 05/04:
Yeah yeah yeah lets stop funding.
I made 5 of my friends start playing this game and fund me with money and im proud of it(cause its legal and nothing wrong with it). Im giving them 2 dcs per each and get atleast 12m each day. If you want to stop funding you must also stop every single money transfer cause people might just play this game to help a friend cause sending money is FUCKING LEGAL.
Summary: If you cant find friends to fund you thats your fucking problem :)
Btw only top 100 (overall) players are having an effect in this game... so with your stupid logic rest should be banned because they are basically funding them(with capo money and fambank) and helping those to achieve something :)
Anonymous at 14:13:18 on 04/04:
You can change rebirth system, you can change amount of bullets you can buy each hour it all doesn't matter as long as this game is full of cheating people.
We have seen mutiple tops here on OB alreay actually supporting cheating, just be smart in cheating and you won't be caught etc... Maybe it's time some fams take responsibility and promote a cheat free gameplay in their own fams.
I have many many friends that stopped playing this game cause of the cheaters, they say "why would I put time and effort in making a good account when there are so much cheaters". I can't say they are wrong. Priority has to be to make this game almost cheater free (100% cheat free won't ever happen, but 95%+ cheat free would be very nice).
Admins i want the same akill wave we already saw for scripters, but now also for share, dupe and fund accounts please. It doesn't make sense that most people that got akilled are firstly being reported. Why admins can't investigate things themselves. If a chief account has for example 5k bullets 0 bodyguards and he has sent like 60 million to a good account he is funding he should be akilled (and the account that received it should be punished also with taking money/bullets away).
Take some action against sharing/duping/funding please admins.
You can change rebirth system, you can change amount of bullets you can buy each hour it all doesn't matter as long as this game is full of cheating people.
We have seen mutiple tops here on OB alreay actually supporting cheating, just be smart in cheating and you won't be caught etc... Maybe it's time some fams take responsibility and promote a cheat free gameplay in their own fams.
I have many many friends that stopped playing this game cause of the cheaters, they say "why would I put time and effort in making a good account when there are so much cheaters". I can't say they are wrong. Priority has to be to make this game almost cheater free (100% cheat free won't ever happen, but 95%+ cheat free would be very nice).
Admins i want the same akill wave we already saw for scripters, but now also for share, dupe and fund accounts please. It doesn't make sense that most people that got akilled are firstly being reported. Why admins can't investigate things themselves. If a chief account has for example 5k bullets 0 bodyguards and he has sent like 60 million to a good account he is funding he should be akilled (and the account that received it should be punished also with taking money/bullets away).
Take some action against sharing/duping/funding please admins.
Yeah yeah yeah lets stop funding.
I made 5 of my friends start playing this game and fund me with money and im proud of it(cause its legal and nothing wrong with it). Im giving them 2 dcs per each and get atleast 12m each day. If you want to stop funding you must also stop every single money transfer cause people might just play this game to help a friend cause sending money is FUCKING LEGAL.
Summary: If you cant find friends to fund you thats your fucking problem :)
Btw only top 100 (overall) players are having an effect in this game... so with your stupid logic rest should be banned because they are basically funding them(with capo money and fambank) and helping those to achieve something :)
If you make money less important than effort funding really isn't that big a problem. When you get 12m each day, but you can only buy 400 bullets an hour and 3000 a day from obay those 12m aren't going to do that much for you. If instead of that you have to put in a lot of effort to build a fam etc. You can have 10 accounts running on lackeys for you, it won't do you any good. I think that's where things go wrong atm, it actually pays to have an account that really doesn't do anything besides run lackeys.
bruh do you even obay???
Anonymous (11:56:37 - 06-04)
Anonymous at 08:01:48 on 06/04:
Thanks :)
Solstice at 07:55:33 on 06/04:
Thursday 10 OT.
Lamark at 07:53:30 on 06/04:
Sorry guys, has the reset been announced yet?
Sorry guys, has the reset been announced yet?
Thursday 10 OT.
Thanks :)
Anonymous at 11:24:59 on 06/04:
Piao = murderinc = kcode :P
MrPersie at 16:44:17 on 05/04:
+1
Bas at 16:42:26 on 05/04:
Piao=cheater confirmed
Piao at 12:32:08 on 05/04:
Cheaters use IceChat?:o
Anonymous at 12:30:46 on 05/04:
And he is proud to be chaeter :) thats the problem in omerta community cheater are cool!!!
anonymous at 12:19:48 on 05/04:
if you need 5 friends lackeying for you to get you some cash to build an account then your kinda suck if you have to do it on your own.
Nothing wrong with aiming for the win but if you need to cheat to win a online game,
then I dont wanna know how sad your real life is
if you need 5 friends lackeying for you to get you some cash to build an account then your kinda suck if you have to do it on your own.
Nothing wrong with aiming for the win but if you need to cheat to win a online game,
then I dont wanna know how sad your real life is
And he is proud to be chaeter :) thats the problem in omerta community cheater are cool!!!
Cheaters use IceChat?:o
Piao=cheater confirmed
+1
Piao = murderinc = kcode :P
piao is too dumb to know how to cheat
Anonymous (11:24:59 - 06-04)
MrPersie at 16:44:17 on 05/04:
+1
Bas at 16:42:26 on 05/04:
Piao=cheater confirmed
Piao at 12:32:08 on 05/04:
Cheaters use IceChat?:o
Anonymous at 12:30:46 on 05/04:
And he is proud to be chaeter :) thats the problem in omerta community cheater are cool!!!
anonymous at 12:19:48 on 05/04:
if you need 5 friends lackeying for you to get you some cash to build an account then your kinda suck if you have to do it on your own.
Nothing wrong with aiming for the win but if you need to cheat to win a online game,
then I dont wanna know how sad your real life is
if you need 5 friends lackeying for you to get you some cash to build an account then your kinda suck if you have to do it on your own.
Nothing wrong with aiming for the win but if you need to cheat to win a online game,
then I dont wanna know how sad your real life is
And he is proud to be chaeter :) thats the problem in omerta community cheater are cool!!!
Cheaters use IceChat?:o
Piao=cheater confirmed
+1
Piao = murderinc = kcode :P
Anonymous (08:01:48 - 06-04)
Solstice at 07:55:33 on 06/04:
Thursday 10 OT.
Lamark at 07:53:30 on 06/04:
Sorry guys, has the reset been announced yet?
Sorry guys, has the reset been announced yet?
Thursday 10 OT.
Thanks :)
Solstice (07:55:33 - 06-04)
Lamark at 07:53:30 on 06/04:
Sorry guys, has the reset been announced yet?
Sorry guys, has the reset been announced yet?
Thursday 10 OT.
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
So thr tax is being collected on all methods of payment in every country ?