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Merton Ireland (21:08:38 - 22-03)
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Anonymous at 20:50:36 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:49:06 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:44:56 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:27:38 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:25:40 on 22/03:
Nazdrovia sold Dragons...

Rip Dragonara...

Dragonara sold their every one of their blood starting vexation then calabresi , so it s not a surprise i think

How did Dragonara sell Calabresi?
On obay.

:) That's quite a feat. I just tried to sell Imperium on there and it didn't have a slot for selling a family.


Naz aint sold us... we are unsellable , well i am i stink.
Anonymous (20:50:36 - 22-03)
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Anonymous at 20:49:06 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:44:56 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:27:38 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:25:40 on 22/03:
Nazdrovia sold Dragons...

Rip Dragonara...

Dragonara sold their every one of their blood starting vexation then calabresi , so it s not a surprise i think

How did Dragonara sell Calabresi?
On obay.

:) That's quite a feat. I just tried to sell Imperium on there and it didn't have a slot for selling a family.
Anonymous (20:49:06 - 22-03)
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Anonymous at 20:44:56 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:27:38 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:25:40 on 22/03:
Nazdrovia sold Dragons...

Rip Dragonara...

Dragonara sold their every one of their blood starting vexation then calabresi , so it s not a surprise i think

How did Dragonara sell Calabresi?
On obay.
Anonymous (20:44:56 - 22-03)
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Anonymous at 20:27:38 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 20:25:40 on 22/03:
Nazdrovia sold Dragons...

Rip Dragonara...

Dragonara sold their every one of their blood starting vexation then calabresi , so it s not a surprise i think

How did Dragonara sell Calabresi?
Anonymous (20:27:38 - 22-03)
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Anonymous at 20:25:40 on 22/03:
Nazdrovia sold Dragons...

Rip Dragonara...

Dragonara sold their every one of their blood starting vexation then calabresi , so it s not a surprise i think
Anonymous (20:25:40 - 22-03)
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Nazdrovia sold Dragons...

Rip Dragonara...
Anonymous (19:31:28 - 22-03)
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last war aeterna+lusa+imp+nazd+persico+alberio vs siyah+maraz :W gg see u next vers ;)
Anonymous (18:57:22 - 22-03)
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Anonymous at 18:53:15 on 22/03:
Anonymous at 16:47:50 on 22/03:
Once we get a rerank fam winning HOF, we will see longer versions again..

Maraz did it years ago, when vaffan was umbrella.

Yes many fams reranked years ago thats the point.. Families nowadays need some motivation, a success story would do it
Anonymous (18:53:15 - 22-03)
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Anonymous at 16:47:50 on 22/03:
Once we get a rerank fam winning HOF, we will see longer versions again..

Maraz did it years ago, when vaffan was umbrella.
Merton Ireland (17:00:51 - 22-03)
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Solstice at 10:01:51 on 22/03:
toby the gold fish at 19:38:33 on 21/03:
The problem is people haven't come up with a strategy to defeat the common tactics being used. people have become so used to it, that after they are killed, they just stop ranking. maybe when the flaws are ironed out and the rebirth system comes on board it will change, but we all blame each other it goes round and round in circles. Maybe the hof rewards changing will work dunno. But seeing the same bollox in here after every 8 weeks is a bit boring to be honest.

Vote for Merton, you know he is that lovable Irish rogue you all want!


The problem implies there's just one problem. Yes the current strategies ruin the game, but on the other hand every effort to blood smaller just ends in the family trying to change things being gunned down en masse. Even if you convinced everyone to play bloodless, it would take just two families working together again to have it all fall to pieces. In the end blooding just pays off, and if the other side bloods bigger than you, you're just stupid if you don't do so in return.

So one of many changes should be that blooding shouldn't pay anymore. There are talks about a new warsystem being developed, but i think the developers are woefully understaffed atm.

Another problem is you can't rebirth properly. So when you get shot there's no way of getting back in the game, so people generally don't bother. This means versions are shorter. Another implication is that people really really really don't wanna die without shooting some first, how do you make sure you don't die first? Take another blood.

That's the second important change. There is a new rebirth system running on dm, but it still has it flaws atm, allthough the way it's set-up is very promising.

Then there is the problem of too much bullets in the game. People say there's too much money too, but i contest that. If you can't buy bullets with your money it's in essence not very useful unless for buying the odd unlock i guess. I had terrible luck this version with the rf, so i ended up with about 90k before the first war. Imagine everyone only having 90-120k when they reach brug, you wouldn't have the 3 big wars a week you have now, cause people simply wouldn't have the bullets.

Simple fix for that is restricting bullets to 400 per hour.

Yet another problem is that the game is getting boring. For most people there really isn't any point in doing anything manual other than groupcrimes. Your account strength won't differ much if you're pos 300 or 400 ingame. This game needs more stuff you can do to build your accounts, build your spots and build your families. Everything is automated, which means there isn't much fun to be had except in wartime.

Easy fixes one could think of for now are have your account become stronger with racing and have races done play a part in group crimes. Bring back shoot the bottle or shooting practice, but instead of gaining KS(too overpowered), you gain a little bit of account strength and again better gc's. More elaborate fixes would mean a new way of building spots where your members directly contribute to your spotstrength/defence/unlocks etc. Instead of having that stuff automated.

If those 4 things would be "fixed" i think you'd have a different game alltogether.


Agree completely, I just wasn't typing all that as I kinda start rambling and go off subject!!
I mean in all hone...wow look at that, sorry there I go again ;)

Nice post
Anonymous (16:47:50 - 22-03)
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Once we get a rerank fam winning HOF, we will see longer versions again..
Solstice (10:01:51 - 22-03)
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toby the gold fish at 19:38:33 on 21/03:
The problem is people haven't come up with a strategy to defeat the common tactics being used. people have become so used to it, that after they are killed, they just stop ranking. maybe when the flaws are ironed out and the rebirth system comes on board it will change, but we all blame each other it goes round and round in circles. Maybe the hof rewards changing will work dunno. But seeing the same bollox in here after every 8 weeks is a bit boring to be honest.

Vote for Merton, you know he is that lovable Irish rogue you all want!


The problem implies there's just one problem. Yes the current strategies ruin the game, but on the other hand every effort to blood smaller just ends in the family trying to change things being gunned down en masse. Even if you convinced everyone to play bloodless, it would take just two families working together again to have it all fall to pieces. In the end blooding just pays off, and if the other side bloods bigger than you, you're just stupid if you don't do so in return.

So one of many changes should be that blooding shouldn't pay anymore. There are talks about a new warsystem being developed, but i think the developers are woefully understaffed atm.

Another problem is you can't rebirth properly. So when you get shot there's no way of getting back in the game, so people generally don't bother. This means versions are shorter. Another implication is that people really really really don't wanna die without shooting some first, how do you make sure you don't die first? Take another blood.

That's the second important change. There is a new rebirth system running on dm, but it still has it flaws atm, allthough the way it's set-up is very promising.

Then there is the problem of too much bullets in the game. People say there's too much money too, but i contest that. If you can't buy bullets with your money it's in essence not very useful unless for buying the odd unlock i guess. I had terrible luck this version with the rf, so i ended up with about 90k before the first war. Imagine everyone only having 90-120k when they reach brug, you wouldn't have the 3 big wars a week you have now, cause people simply wouldn't have the bullets.

Simple fix for that is restricting bullets to 400 per hour.

Yet another problem is that the game is getting boring. For most people there really isn't any point in doing anything manual other than groupcrimes. Your account strength won't differ much if you're pos 300 or 400 ingame. This game needs more stuff you can do to build your accounts, build your spots and build your families. Everything is automated, which means there isn't much fun to be had except in wartime.

Easy fixes one could think of for now are have your account become stronger with racing and have races done play a part in group crimes. Bring back shoot the bottle or shooting practice, but instead of gaining KS(too overpowered), you gain a little bit of account strength and again better gc's. More elaborate fixes would mean a new way of building spots where your members directly contribute to your spotstrength/defence/unlocks etc. Instead of having that stuff automated.

If those 4 things would be "fixed" i think you'd have a different game alltogether.
kat - not logged (09:31:25 - 22-03)
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stay safe #Brussel

i hope all players who lives there are ok
Anonymous (03:16:41 - 22-03)
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MurderInc at 20:26:06 on 21/03:
Anonymous at 20:05:05 on 21/03:
MurderInc at 18:51:13 on 21/03:
Anonymous at 18:01:37 on 21/03:
The main problem on this game like on all the others are the cheaters/bug abusing. I play this game for the same time and never saw a big ingame changing against cheaters. And you dont need 40 euros to have a top account. 1/2 dc's and you are ready to pimp your account. But the biggest pain is to fight against system. Bad managment by admins and in the same time the older comunity that always talk for a better game is the same that keeps cheating for the last years and will keep cheating. Why? The same guys that cheat are the same that keep making rich the same guy. So why working on a better anti cheat or in a solution to delete all the possible cheats?
So you missed the massive akill waves that affected all rs.net users (check their FB page for some sweet tears!), as well as a number of akills for other exploits that have been found in the past 2 years or so?

It's mostly about sharing nowadays, and there's not much anyone can do about that unless the perpetrators are either very dumb (pro tip: channel topics aren't exactly the most secure storage system for TeamViewer IDs) or overdo it. Removing bust rp was sort of a mitigation for that, since that's what sharing was used for in the majority of cases.

Cheating is bad for the game, but in the grand scheme of things is not what's caused the problem the game is facing at the moment.

Lol your a cheater yourself with all your add-ons.

or is it normal to buy all casino's @ the same time..
It occurs to me that akills were handed out for that offense this version, so I guess you're saying I'm right with my point about cheating being punished appropriately, and that it's not that big of a deal, compared to other things?

A lot of cheaters aren't being punished appropriately, a lot of cheaters aren't even akilled to begin with. Sharing/funding is still going on a very large scale in most cases without consequences.

Saying that cheating isn't a big problem is what all the cheaters like to say, cause they don't see it as a problem (although it is). But cheating gives a disadvantage to the fair players, there will always be cheating, but if the amount of cheaters would be like 1-5% of the players that would be acceptable, but that isn't the case.

Players wan't a fair game, when they put time, effort and money in making their account they want to be rewarded for that, not that cheaters get the same advantages without the effort.
Anonymous (23:06:14 - 21-03)
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MurderInc at 20:26:06 on 21/03:
Anonymous at 20:05:05 on 21/03:
MurderInc at 18:51:13 on 21/03:
Anonymous at 18:01:37 on 21/03:
The main problem on this game like on all the others are the cheaters/bug abusing. I play this game for the same time and never saw a big ingame changing against cheaters. And you dont need 40 euros to have a top account. 1/2 dc's and you are ready to pimp your account. But the biggest pain is to fight against system. Bad managment by admins and in the same time the older comunity that always talk for a better game is the same that keeps cheating for the last years and will keep cheating. Why? The same guys that cheat are the same that keep making rich the same guy. So why working on a better anti cheat or in a solution to delete all the possible cheats?
So you missed the massive akill waves that affected all rs.net users (check their FB page for some sweet tears!), as well as a number of akills for other exploits that have been found in the past 2 years or so?

It's mostly about sharing nowadays, and there's not much anyone can do about that unless the perpetrators are either very dumb (pro tip: channel topics aren't exactly the most secure storage system for TeamViewer IDs) or overdo it. Removing bust rp was sort of a mitigation for that, since that's what sharing was used for in the majority of cases.

Cheating is bad for the game, but in the grand scheme of things is not what's caused the problem the game is facing at the moment.

Lol your a cheater yourself with all your add-ons.

or is it normal to buy all casino's @ the same time..
It occurs to me that akills were handed out for that offense this version, so I guess you're saying I'm right with my point about cheating being punished appropriately, and that it's not that big of a deal, compared to other things?

It is, its all about money, so if u own all spots in detroit u will make billions before first war starts, and so u will all be loaded if u share it between your fam members.

so yes it is a big deal....

imo just ban all cheater/abusers. Akill isnt enough anymore. And yes u can say playerbase will decrease but old player will return this wat!
Anonymous (22:59:03 - 21-03)
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5 more days without shooting will make aeterna and lusa dead.
MurderInc Austria (20:26:06 - 21-03)
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Anonymous at 20:05:05 on 21/03:
MurderInc at 18:51:13 on 21/03:
Anonymous at 18:01:37 on 21/03:
The main problem on this game like on all the others are the cheaters/bug abusing. I play this game for the same time and never saw a big ingame changing against cheaters. And you dont need 40 euros to have a top account. 1/2 dc's and you are ready to pimp your account. But the biggest pain is to fight against system. Bad managment by admins and in the same time the older comunity that always talk for a better game is the same that keeps cheating for the last years and will keep cheating. Why? The same guys that cheat are the same that keep making rich the same guy. So why working on a better anti cheat or in a solution to delete all the possible cheats?
So you missed the massive akill waves that affected all rs.net users (check their FB page for some sweet tears!), as well as a number of akills for other exploits that have been found in the past 2 years or so?

It's mostly about sharing nowadays, and there's not much anyone can do about that unless the perpetrators are either very dumb (pro tip: channel topics aren't exactly the most secure storage system for TeamViewer IDs) or overdo it. Removing bust rp was sort of a mitigation for that, since that's what sharing was used for in the majority of cases.

Cheating is bad for the game, but in the grand scheme of things is not what's caused the problem the game is facing at the moment.

Lol your a cheater yourself with all your add-ons.

or is it normal to buy all casino's @ the same time..
It occurs to me that akills were handed out for that offense this version, so I guess you're saying I'm right with my point about cheating being punished appropriately, and that it's not that big of a deal, compared to other things?
Anonymous (20:07:59 - 21-03)
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Anonymous at 20:05:05 on 21/03:
MurderInc at 18:51:13 on 21/03:
Anonymous at 18:01:37 on 21/03:
The main problem on this game like on all the others are the cheaters/bug abusing. I play this game for the same time and never saw a big ingame changing against cheaters. And you dont need 40 euros to have a top account. 1/2 dc's and you are ready to pimp your account. But the biggest pain is to fight against system. Bad managment by admins and in the same time the older comunity that always talk for a better game is the same that keeps cheating for the last years and will keep cheating. Why? The same guys that cheat are the same that keep making rich the same guy. So why working on a better anti cheat or in a solution to delete all the possible cheats?
So you missed the massive akill waves that affected all rs.net users (check their FB page for some sweet tears!), as well as a number of akills for other exploits that have been found in the past 2 years or so?

It's mostly about sharing nowadays, and there's not much anyone can do about that unless the perpetrators are either very dumb (pro tip: channel topics aren't exactly the most secure storage system for TeamViewer IDs) or overdo it. Removing bust rp was sort of a mitigation for that, since that's what sharing was used for in the majority of cases.

Cheating is bad for the game, but in the grand scheme of things is not what's caused the problem the game is facing at the moment.

Lol your a cheater yourself with all your add-ons.

or is it normal to buy all casino's @ the same time..
Yes, that is normal.
Anonymous (20:05:05 - 21-03)
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MurderInc at 18:51:13 on 21/03:
Anonymous at 18:01:37 on 21/03:
The main problem on this game like on all the others are the cheaters/bug abusing. I play this game for the same time and never saw a big ingame changing against cheaters. And you dont need 40 euros to have a top account. 1/2 dc's and you are ready to pimp your account. But the biggest pain is to fight against system. Bad managment by admins and in the same time the older comunity that always talk for a better game is the same that keeps cheating for the last years and will keep cheating. Why? The same guys that cheat are the same that keep making rich the same guy. So why working on a better anti cheat or in a solution to delete all the possible cheats?
So you missed the massive akill waves that affected all rs.net users (check their FB page for some sweet tears!), as well as a number of akills for other exploits that have been found in the past 2 years or so?

It's mostly about sharing nowadays, and there's not much anyone can do about that unless the perpetrators are either very dumb (pro tip: channel topics aren't exactly the most secure storage system for TeamViewer IDs) or overdo it. Removing bust rp was sort of a mitigation for that, since that's what sharing was used for in the majority of cases.

Cheating is bad for the game, but in the grand scheme of things is not what's caused the problem the game is facing at the moment.

Lol your a cheater yourself with all your add-ons.

or is it normal to buy all casino's @ the same time..
toby the gold fish (19:38:33 - 21-03)
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The problem is people haven't come up with a strategy to defeat the common tactics being used. people have become so used to it, that after they are killed, they just stop ranking. maybe when the flaws are ironed out and the rebirth system comes on board it will change, but we all blame each other it goes round and round in circles. Maybe the hof rewards changing will work dunno. But seeing the same bollox in here after every 8 weeks is a bit boring to be honest.

Vote for Merton, you know he is that lovable Irish rogue you all want!