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FlowzZ Albania (19:36:24 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 19:34:32 on 30/05:
FlowzZ at 19:32:54 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 19:31:05 on 30/05:
FlowzZ at 19:28:13 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 19:22:17 on 30/05:
well, next version the same pact wont be there at least...

since Righ fucked up Liberta, Pres/Gravano (Armada)

Stopped reading here


haha, idd, Righ had nothing to do with Armada war...

Although he/she has a point for the rest of his post.

Also he said it in a way that grav and presi were together in one fam :')

Gow and Slow etc were in Armada, right?

yeh i was there too but if a fam is retires for a vers and has like 5-6 people at a fam doesnt have to mean it merged with that fam , if we brought all rankers there , armada would have been in a better position i can assure you
Anonymous (19:34:32 - 30-05)
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FlowzZ at 19:32:54 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 19:31:05 on 30/05:
FlowzZ at 19:28:13 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 19:22:17 on 30/05:
well, next version the same pact wont be there at least...

since Righ fucked up Liberta, Pres/Gravano (Armada)

Stopped reading here


haha, idd, Righ had nothing to do with Armada war...

Although he/she has a point for the rest of his post.

Also he said it in a way that grav and presi were together in one fam :')

Gow and Slow etc were in Armada, right?
FlowzZ Albania (19:32:54 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 19:31:05 on 30/05:
FlowzZ at 19:28:13 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 19:22:17 on 30/05:
well, next version the same pact wont be there at least...

since Righ fucked up Liberta, Pres/Gravano (Armada)

Stopped reading here


haha, idd, Righ had nothing to do with Armada war...

Although he/she has a point for the rest of his post.

Also he said it in a way that grav and presi were together in one fam :')
Anonymous (19:31:05 - 30-05)
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FlowzZ at 19:28:13 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 19:22:17 on 30/05:
well, next version the same pact wont be there at least...

since Righ fucked up Liberta, Pres/Gravano (Armada)

Stopped reading here


haha, idd, Righ had nothing to do with Armada war...

Although he/she has a point for the rest of his post.
FlowzZ Albania (19:28:13 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 19:22:17 on 30/05:
well, next version the same pact wont be there at least...

since Righ fucked up Liberta, Pres/Gravano (Armada)

Stopped reading here
Anonymous (19:22:17 - 30-05)
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well, next version the same pact wont be there at least...

since Righ fucked up Liberta, Pres/Gravano (Armada) and Vinci, those fams will never allow Righelli to be as strong as they are now. I wouldnt even be suprised to see those 3 fams up united and shoot Righelli even this version, just to settle up the mess Righelli made last weeks.

Affinitas will never let Righelli play like they did this version anymore. The only fam not benefitting from it is Conflict, since they are the connection between those 2 sides.

I wouldn't even be suprised that Affi/Conflict have a non shooting pact, but go their own ways next version.

And then u got your 3rd party again (Righ/Bru/Tempe part) and stop wanking about huge pacts.

But u'll see some other nuubs will make another 'Pact' and we all start wanking again :')
ReBorN United States (19:11:06 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 19:02:02 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 18:43:30 on 30/05:
Sollid at 18:39:49 on 30/05:
You all should just stop and try to tell people there is no pact. Just let them believe there is one. Since that'll mean they won't try tactical wars, but just grab a bunch of families of the so called pact and shoot and die by the bloods of those families :P You guys are telling them to shoot tactical so they make a chance, why are you helping them? xD

Im starting to feel bad for these guys :\

Its like going to a doctor when your 10 years old. He says "Your going to die one day, everyone does." so the little boy decides to stop living. :\

Dont give up!

Probably the same doctor that gave you a lollipop, if you never tell your parents, or the police...

Seriously cut the bullshit. Hacker admitted the pact infact existed. ANd I forgot in your world, there also was no ddos...
Probably you will even deny that Righelli - Conflict - Vinci - Liberta - Messina/Marangello/Vaffanculo (sorry I don't know how to call them). Finished last version together peacefully. :')
Whatever your childhood doctor gave you to forget, please share your meds with us.

ROFL ... again ... STOP .... CRYING ...

Who cares if Hacker admits theres a pact or not? Who cares if there IS a pact? Who cares what the price of tea in China is?! It makes no difference! You guys think there is this HUGE conspiracy to keep one side down and finish the version with 72 families when in reality, these bloodships were formed out of necessity because of opportunistic families that would strike only after the big families killed each other off. (Which, is a legitimate way to play, dont get me wrong, but so is working closely with your bloods).

The whole point Ive been trying to make all day (and everyone keeps missing it surprisingly [/sarcasm]) is that if the families that had died in the beginning kept playing, the "pact" wouldnt be alive right now. Even if you launched one of your infamous unorganized wars, Conflict, Righelli, and Lucchese would all be down right now.

But thats ok ... keep playing like this and the "pact" will keep putting stars on their profiles.

Im done ... c ya :w
Anonymous (19:02:02 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 18:43:30 on 30/05:
Sollid at 18:39:49 on 30/05:
You all should just stop and try to tell people there is no pact. Just let them believe there is one. Since that'll mean they won't try tactical wars, but just grab a bunch of families of the so called pact and shoot and die by the bloods of those families :P You guys are telling them to shoot tactical so they make a chance, why are you helping them? xD

Im starting to feel bad for these guys :\

Its like going to a doctor when your 10 years old. He says "Your going to die one day, everyone does." so the little boy decides to stop living. :\

Dont give up!

Probably the same doctor that gave you a lollipop, if you never tell your parents, or the police...

Seriously cut the bullshit. Hacker admitted the pact infact existed. ANd I forgot in your world, there also was no ddos...
Probably you will even deny that Righelli - Conflict - Vinci - Liberta - Messina/Marangello/Vaffanculo (sorry I don't know how to call them). Finished last version together peacefully. :')
Whatever your childhood doctor gave you to forget, please share your meds with us.
Mikee Netherlands (18:53:19 - 30-05)
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btw, since 2.0 (when i came here first) ppl have been complaining about bloodlines / pacts etc.

you f00ls will always complain, and it will never be good

imo this version has been pretty good, all sides have suffered bigtime..

if this game is so extremely gay/fuckedup, just stop playing instead of crying all day long
Anonymous (18:48:49 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 18:38:29 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 18:29:23 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 18:19:40 on 30/05:
I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p

it's clearly your side responsible...without your pact other fams would never team up together.
if your side lost 1st battle some fams would probably retire like in 3.2...conflict went down very early...didn't come back...vinci went down, didn't come back...and still I don't see point in playing this game like this...one side or other side wins...bah...it's not worth playing at all. Reranking? waste of money...that would make only brando happy...

On the contrary ... the families that are in the pact now have been fighting each other since before Brando even started fighting scripts! It wasnt until the "other side" started teaming up that these guys started working together.

Someone said it best earlier ...

All these families used to fight each other constantly. For example, when Conflict was weak from killing Affinitas, a group of families would swoop in (after months of doing nothing), kill Conflict, then claim victory for themselves. It happened a couple of versions in a row. After such lame tactics, these guys just didnt want to see that happen anymore.

But, like I said earlier, pacts go all the way back since the inception of this game. Until EVERYONE (not just "our side") changes their gamestyle, it will never change.

and that will kill this game...before we always had at least 3rd party in the game...and some independent fams who would suicide on one of the main fams and make some impact on the game. you can call those fams noobs, like some ppl said for samagono but those fams were making difference sometimes. now everybody play safe including your pact.
my fam used to die and we would rank up again. and we tried to play our game...now it's not possible anymore if we have to team up with bunch of fams we dislike just to have some kind of chance to survive or make some impact...there's no more 3rd way as it used to be
Since 2.1 (18:43:39 - 30-05)
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People still bringing up THE ddos thing? Get fucking real.. With or without some downtime you would have been raped anyway.

We all know u guys suck at shooting and organizing. You guys are only busy cheating, duping and sending ingame messages to female accounts and try to convince them to marry you...

And if things go bad you always blame it on other people instead of looking to yourself. And Then THE next thing you Will do is play THE racism card. And Again and Again and Again ... Ooh and somewhere in between you Will bring up that THE ottomans ruled blalablabla.. Fucking grow up and stop bringing stuff from THE past..

Whats next? Dutch people Will say they ruled in THE 1600"s and had slave colonies everywhere? Yeee lets play THE history card! My country was so much better 300 years before christ blalablabla

Grow up shitface
ReBorN United States (18:43:30 - 30-05)
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Sollid at 18:39:49 on 30/05:
You all should just stop and try to tell people there is no pact. Just let them believe there is one. Since that'll mean they won't try tactical wars, but just grab a bunch of families of the so called pact and shoot and die by the bloods of those families :P You guys are telling them to shoot tactical so they make a chance, why are you helping them? xD

Im starting to feel bad for these guys :\

Its like going to a doctor when your 10 years old. He says "Your going to die one day, everyone does." so the little boy decides to stop living. :\

Dont give up!
ReBorN United States (18:40:45 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 18:38:29 on 30/05:
Mikee at 18:32:54 on 30/05:
Reborn, when will you finally realize these discussions are useless and hopeless... this is like explaining a 1 year old boy how to whipe his ass..

impossible with such failzors

once again...I didn't even play this version nor I intend to play next...I'm just saying that this playstyle sucks. No strategy needed whatsoever...no tops needed when everybody knows what will happen. I find that boring...

Then play the game and come up with a new style that can counter this one. That is the brilliance behind this game (sometimes) ... the politics and the strategizing. ;)

And idd Mikee ... it is. I just wanted my opinion known (and Im bored at work today, so what better to do then to argue on OB News? xD)
Sollid (18:39:49 - 30-05)
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You all should just stop and try to tell people there is no pact. Just let them believe there is one. Since that'll mean they won't try tactical wars, but just grab a bunch of families of the so called pact and shoot and die by the bloods of those families :P You guys are telling them to shoot tactical so they make a chance, why are you helping them? xD
Lazygun (18:38:50 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 18:19:40 on 30/05:
I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

What if you decided to attack just Affinitas with those numbers? What if you decided to attack just Supremazia with those numbers?

Some of our strategies are pretty obvious although I wont spell them out for you. There were a couple of times this version we had to come up with different ways to get certain families down. People need to think outside of the box a bit instead of just insisting all families must be down at the exact same time!

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p

it has always been this way (also in versions like 2.4 and even before), the figures are superfluous imo. Every family that is on top has lots of friends, one reason is because they shot their main enemies to hell and the other reason is to improve the family's game position. Players mentality is something which is very hard to change. Maybe you should allow more families into the game again to keep the game alive any longer? Personally I think changes to the game play environment are more efficient than being dependent of players mentality...
ReBorN United States (18:38:29 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 18:29:23 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 18:19:40 on 30/05:
I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p

it's clearly your side responsible...without your pact other fams would never team up together.
if your side lost 1st battle some fams would probably retire like in 3.2...conflict went down very early...didn't come back...vinci went down, didn't come back...and still I don't see point in playing this game like this...one side or other side wins...bah...it's not worth playing at all. Reranking? waste of money...that would make only brando happy...

On the contrary ... the families that are in the pact now have been fighting each other since before Brando even started fighting scripts! It wasnt until the "other side" started teaming up that these guys started working together.

Someone said it best earlier ...

All these families used to fight each other constantly. For example, when Conflict was weak from killing Affinitas, a group of families would swoop in (after months of doing nothing), kill Conflict, then claim victory for themselves. It happened a couple of versions in a row. After such lame tactics, these guys just didnt want to see that happen anymore.

But, like I said earlier, pacts go all the way back since the inception of this game. Until EVERYONE (not just "our side") changes their gamestyle, it will never change.
Anonymous (18:38:29 - 30-05)
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Mikee at 18:32:54 on 30/05:
Reborn, when will you finally realize these discussions are useless and hopeless... this is like explaining a 1 year old boy how to whipe his ass..

impossible with such failzors

once again...I didn't even play this version nor I intend to play next...I'm just saying that this playstyle sucks. No strategy needed whatsoever...no tops needed when everybody knows what will happen. I find that boring...
Mikee Netherlands (18:32:54 - 30-05)
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Reborn, when will you finally realize these discussions are useless and hopeless... this is like explaining a 1 year old boy how to whipe his ass..

impossible with such failzors
Anonymous (18:29:23 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 18:19:40 on 30/05:
I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p

it's clearly your side responsible...without your pact other fams would never team up together.
if your side lost 1st battle some fams would probably retire like in 3.2...conflict went down very early...didn't come back...vinci went down, didn't come back...and still I don't see point in playing this game like this...one side or other side wins...bah...it's not worth playing at all. Reranking? waste of money...that would make only brando happy...
ReBorN United States (18:19:40 - 30-05)
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I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

What if you decided to attack just Affinitas with those numbers? What if you decided to attack just Supremazia with those numbers?

Some of our strategies are pretty obvious although I wont spell them out for you. There were a couple of times this version we had to come up with different ways to get certain families down. People need to think outside of the box a bit instead of just insisting all families must be down at the exact same time!

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p