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20-01 Its raining money!
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15:36:55 - 20-01
Anonymous at 15:31:31 on 20/01:
shell at 15:19:24 on 20/01:

<some game>


lol seems some sarcastic stuff I've been saying was the absolute truth after all :'')
what a man that Brando :'''')


<some game>

screenshots and videos :') haha

why would you work on such bullcrap while there are games like Mafia, Godfather and freakin GTA V comin this year :''')

<some game>

LMFAO :''')

I think it's a niche in the market that's pretty low on games, it's a simulation/Strategy game, you build your own criminal empire (simulation part also some strategy involved of course) and take on other empires (strategy).

I haven't seen many games like this and it's pretty much uncomparable to the games you have just mentioned.
20-01 Its raining money!
Link
15:29:38 - 20-01
FlowzZ at 15:21:35 on 20/01:
Smul at 15:12:07 on 20/01:
FlowzZ at 13:38:57 on 20/01:
sbanks at 12:56:29 on 20/01:
FlowzZ at 12:48:55 on 20/01:
Some might say it was not necessary to post his message here, but for the greater good of omerta its best so everyone can see it, so maybe something will be done about his bugfest.

Pathetic


what is pathetic? this is "news" and we are a news site, so i guess we are entitled to report it.
you sure can and may have your opinion but it's still news

If you claim as professional then report it as news in that way , but now its too late , my point is instead of making that first thread explaining everything how the bug works while it wasnt even fixed , u could explain the situation and how things were(and it still doesnt seem) , you just promoted it to people , every idiot could give it a try , and dont say its not like that cuz i myself didnt know until i saw ur thread , i said on my previous post that just one guy trying to get away with this can still disbalance the game .

FlowzZ, you want the admins to do something about all these cheats?

From the way you are talking I have the feeling you don't want them to hunt down all the cheaters and all the cheats that are out there. Else you wouldn't talk like this.

In my opinion isn't a good thing this got out completely, because now the crew HAS to do something against at least these bugs, and maybe even actively pursue other bugs as well. Instead of their lazy slacking attitude in the last 6 versions orso.

This is called Leverage. Finally we, as players, might have been able to created enough leverage ourselves that we can force the crew to do something about this ever-lingering problem.

You, as a honest player, should embrace this "provocative" Reporting.

Yes i do want them to catch the cheaters and i have yet not said otherwise .

I agree on how lazy they are and for their lack of interest about the game .

And i still stick to my point that perhaps you should have seen it from players's who still play the game perspective regarding the bug explanation because that is me in this case and reason is all explained in posts below .


I still play. So I see this in a "player who still plays the game" perspective.

In the last 5-6 versions the Crew has done jackshit about cheating, even when they were pointed clearly in the direction of cheats and cheaters they did nothing. Sometimes you gotta change strategy to get things rolling. You can't always be the nice guys.
20-01 Its raining money!
Link
15:25:53 - 20-01
shell at 15:19:24 on 20/01:
<some game>

For those who might wonder why crew gave up on developing the game. That is the game they are launching for xbox. That is why they don't care about what is going on here as long as they sell dc's. Thanks to bug scandal that they might realise that they are still runing a morpg and got respondibility to people who are playing it.

Also telling how the bugs are used to public is also what necessery to be happened and it happened. Now, that some people's priviliges is for all, this either get the game down for good or crew steps up and fix it.

None of those people found out the bugs but abused, still reason to get killed. So they got many people to catch still. Good luck with it

This game is from the makers of Tropico etc. This is a whole different company. Got proof that it's an Omerta LTD project?
20-01 Its raining money!
Link
15:22:59 - 20-01
Anonymous at 15:08:19 on 20/01:
Saros`away at 15:01:42 on 20/01:
@ Mr. Anon and FlowzZ

Omerta knew that the bugs had been made public (atleast I hope that's the case). What the hell do expect that happens when you keep the game running like that? They had only one logical option in the matter and that was closing the game till all known bugs were fixxed, only then you can start your investigation on what exactly happened and perhaps compensating. What did they do? They openend the ROM and did shit like usual, it's insane stuff like this that needs to stop, and it seems it has to go the hard way.

Blaming OBnews is absurd.
Unfortunately, you do not seem to get it, nor did you actually take the time to read my post below carefully.

I do not blame OB for the bugs. It's not like they were the ones that exploited it. But I do blame them for openly telling people how to exploit it.

Don't get me wrong, they were right to tell us that said bug was being exploited, but they should not have shown us how it can be done.

So, I am not blaming OB per se, I am just pointing out what they did wrong, in my opinion.

Yeah that "We will report but don't disclose the details" still of reporting and newssharing has been done before. And jackshit was done by the admins back then to close the actual loopholes, they would make cool stories in newsposts ingame, which were only halfbaked truths. Now they will have to close these loopholes as everyone knows about them.

It might be fierce and slightly provocative, but imo it's the right way to actually get something done.
20-01 Its raining money!
Link
15:12:07 - 20-01
FlowzZ at 13:38:57 on 20/01:
sbanks at 12:56:29 on 20/01:
FlowzZ at 12:48:55 on 20/01:
Some might say it was not necessary to post his message here, but for the greater good of omerta its best so everyone can see it, so maybe something will be done about his bugfest.

Pathetic


what is pathetic? this is "news" and we are a news site, so i guess we are entitled to report it.
you sure can and may have your opinion but it's still news

If you claim as professional then report it as news in that way , but now its too late , my point is instead of making that first thread explaining everything how the bug works while it wasnt even fixed , u could explain the situation and how things were(and it still doesnt seem) , you just promoted it to people , every idiot could give it a try , and dont say its not like that cuz i myself didnt know until i saw ur thread , i said on my previous post that just one guy trying to get away with this can still disbalance the game .

FlowzZ, you want the admins to do something about all these cheats?

From the way you are talking I have the feeling you don't want them to hunt down all the cheaters and all the cheats that are out there. Else you wouldn't talk like this.

In my opinion isn't a good thing this got out completely, because now the crew HAS to do something against at least these bugs, and maybe even actively pursue other bugs as well. Instead of their lazy slacking attitude in the last 6 versions orso.

This is called Leverage. Finally we, as players, might have been able to created enough leverage ourselves that we can force the crew to do something about this ever-lingering problem.

You, as a honest player, should embrace this "provocative" Reporting.
20-01 Its raining money!
Link
15:06:46 - 20-01
Anonymous at 13:36:36 on 20/01:
He has this on his profile: "Who wants money send me honourpoints :) So me some respect".

Do you think anybody is going to send you honor points because of cheating?
And do you think you're trick is any fun now that the secret is out? You guys should know, magic looses magic when the secret is found!

From what I can see in comments is that he got at least 1.5k HPs in a very short amount of time. I can't verify that myself as when I got online he had 0 HPs (presumably removed by admins).
20-01 Its raining money!
Link
15:03:37 - 20-01
FlowzZ at 12:48:55 on 20/01:
Some might say it was not necessary to post his message here, but for the greater good of omerta its best so everyone can see it, so maybe something will be done about his bugfest.

Pathetic

Tbh if stuff about cheating doesn't get reported on OBN (which it should as it's Omerta News, just like real media should report on real cheating, banks/sports/governments/etc) the admins will only cover it up with a nice story in an ingame newspost.
Now that it's out there there might actually be some pressure for the Crew to do something about this massive cheatfest. I at least hope they are reading what is said here. Because some stuff that's said here is rather valuable info for them in the hunt for cheaters/cheats.
20-01 Its raining money!
Link
14:50:10 - 20-01
Anonymous at 11:58:10 on 20/01:
Ya'll talk as if the world is going to end, only negative comments.

Just akill the guy, delete the money that has been sent around (I heard misshysteria is doing that as we speak) and fix those bugs... Just put the game down for 5 hours and those bugs are gone and we can all play on like we used to.

I haven't been cheating or bug abusing and I'd like to just play my game without the needed intervention of admins all the time.

Take it easy and just play your game, it's just a game.

I don't think you are very realistic about this. Of course there are only negative comments as what we have seen in the last days, which got reported, is obviously only the tip of the iceberg. Of course players will be negative about these events.

"Just Akill the guy, Delete the money", yeah and what will that solve? Nearly nothing, it will merely "fix" this minor issue which got reported on. In no way will it help to improve the game in the future.

You really think that all these bugs will be fixed with a downtime of only 5 hours? Damn you are so naive. First of all, it's sunday, Devs don't work flexable hours (which imo they should), so they aren't gonna work on it today. At earliest they will start working on it on monday 9:00 their time. After that they will only clean the bugs that have been currently found and won't go after the unfound bugs. Which if you have read the comments on this site the last 2-3 days, are said to be many. If they wanna hunt those bugs down too. You'll be looking at a downtime of 4-5 days at least (because the abusers won't help the Crew find them of course).

You NEED admin interventions actually, to have a reasonable playable game, else you get the shit what is happening now. People will massively cheat, as the Admins won't do jackshit about it.

And yeah it's just a game, but you have to agree that nowadays it's rather not worth your time as a honest player to play, while all these abusers are rampant. So you can better not "just play your game"..
General Comments & Major Rumors
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01:03:34 - 20-01
Grannqe at 19:56:10 on 19/01:
stop this shit, any rumors?

NAC will win in the 91st minute vs VVV.

Oh that's not a rumour, that's a fact. :D
19-01 Time to clean?
Link
14:37:58 - 19-01
Anonymous at 12:53:04 on 19/01:
It'll probably become a reset with downtime and poor compensation to their playerbase, why?

It's weekend: every crewmember is celebrating their days off atm, the bugs will be looked at on Monday somewhere along the day.

Haven't crewmembers already had all days off pretty much since the launch of 3.5? :P And only sporadically worked after the launch of 3.0?

If they are actually working a significant amount of hours per week on the game, say 20+, their productivity is even way worse than that of government officials.

Imo they should work flexable hours instead of a "normal workweek" as the branch they are in requires them to be flexable and always available.
19-01 Time to clean?
Link
02:16:22 - 19-01
manager at 01:48:13 on 19/01:
I once wondered why they don't ban people, the answer is pretty simple:

The playerbase is shrinking already, there's not a big amount of new players registering and the rating of omerta on those top200 & top100 pages is very low (not even top15).

Banning people will only make the playerbase shrink faster, I think if omerta had the playerbase CoD had (like someone referred to), every cheater would've had a ban already. The playerbase is just too small for that.


Yet if they would have been much sooner with catching the bugs, there would have been a much larger players base. A shitload of honest people have left since 3.0. If the crew actually cared for the game (thus update nicely/listen to the players) and actually banned cheaters. I doubt many of them would have left, as these are the 2 major reasons why people have left.
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
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19:17:58 - 18-01
anony at 19:13:59 on 18/01:
lol they turned rom on, so they will reset in the middle of a version.
what happens to the players who still has a bunch of lackeys on their acc ? Or dc for like 3 weeks ?

Since when does RoM mean that the version will reset?

First of all Admins don't give a shit about the RoM cuz there is no difference between 78% saying "yes" and 80% saying "yes" yet that's the difference between the last 3 RoM polls in the previous version.

Next to that they should just open the RoM at the start of the version, then you won't get people that will whine about "OMFG VERSION WILL BE RESET ALREADY?!?!?!" like yourself. Because the first 5 votes, won't be positive, pro reset, anyway (and neglected..).

If reset is announced, then there will be a reset, not when the RoM is turned on.

You just bitched with the sole purpose to bitch.
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
Link
19:08:29 - 18-01
Anonymous at 19:05:50 on 18/01:
Anonymous at 19:04:28 on 18/01:
Involved families: Lucchese, Righelli

no need talk about kurosawa or others, we are see who is cheater
+1

Yeah, you can, of course, close your eyes for all other cheating that is going on in omerta and pray that it'll go away eventually miraculously. :')
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
Link
16:56:31 - 18-01
Pritalex at 16:53:24 on 18/01:
Mikee at 16:49:34 on 18/01:
Anonymous at 16:44:52 on 18/01:
Deston at 16:38:45 on 18/01:
Smul at 16:20:10 on 18/01:
Changa at 16:17:27 on 18/01:
Arcanine at 16:16:45 on 18/01:
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?

Look at the times he got shot...

It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.

People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious

Yeah, right.

I have to agree with Arcanine here, the gaps are constantly 30 mins or more, and never more than 2 shots every 45 mins (bloodbuying). It's very well possible to survive like this in this KA if you have full def BG setup.
In fact I care to argue otherwise Changa. Everyone shot at such time intervals that does not manage to survive is a bad player. There's nothing wrong with being a bad player, most people here make the silliest mistakes that get them killed or simply never bothered to learn how to play. Nevertheless I would relish the opportunity of getting shot so much at such a slow pace, and making people waste all their bullets.

In full def bg setup two bgs get killed, right? How does one retrain two bodyguard fully to def setup within just 15 minutes? There really isn't much more time between 20:57:25 and 21:12:48?

(It may well be the case that the attackers totally faild, as Furyan claims - not guilty until proven otherwise)
lol noob, 4.5 bg's is still safe 9 out of 10 times
Its also possible to buy bg's from obay

With the current retrain speed, nearly never you'll see BGs on obay. It's just not worth the effort.

Though Mike is 100% right there, You have a shitload of defense already from market stuff, when you get shot with 5 defense Guards, the BGs that get killed won't be the BGs with the highest amount of def (Lee) but most likely Vic and Lex or Ike.

The amount of Defense you'll lose by only being able to retrain 15 lvls instead of 20 lvls compared to your overall defense amount is pretty much neglectable.
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
Link
16:52:39 - 18-01
Johnny at 16:44:51 on 18/01:
Smul at 16:37:42 on 18/01:
Johnny at 16:31:49 on 18/01:
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.

Kind of weird tbh :P

Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)

I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.

It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...

Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...

Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.

Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.

So Righelli and Lucchese people didn't get cought for health bug cheat?
I thought they were cause 1st time I saw and heard about this bug is in this article, so I thought they got cought for that + hitlist thing. And yes ofc health bug seems just game breaking, but I didn't hear for it before. I don't think that bug existed from 2.9 - 3.2 when there were really strong accounts (including yours) it had to come later. Also I wonder how did OB news got info about this bug, and is it known (with proof) who has been using it?

If you check the Omerta ingame Article. They are caught for "moneylaundry" aka the Hitlist bug. (you can check the article if you don't have an ingame account by going to this link: Click me!)

The proof comes from abusers themselves, kinda like Tyler Hamilton.

And no, I haven't tested it out, as I don't wanna be Akilled when that spree comes. :')
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
Link
16:48:17 - 18-01
Anonymous at 16:43:14 on 18/01:
Smul at 16:37:42 on 18/01:
Johnny at 16:31:49 on 18/01:
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.

Kind of weird tbh :P

Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)

I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.

It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...

Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...

Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.

Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.

Well, teh hitlist cheat has very concrete effect on the game as well.
More money -> more bullets -> stronger accounts
And retraining guards is also not for free. So I consider the hitlist bug to be more severe.

I never tried to make the hitlist cheat seem little. It's more that the health bug has a more direct and instantly visible effect.

The hitlist bug is rather subtile, as only a few people noticed the jumps in money (jumps for no reason, no slot JPs dropped, no Lottery, no raidspot pay outs, no big pokergamblers at the time etc.). It doesn't directly affect the "victim" of the bug when the bug takes effect.
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
Link
16:37:42 - 18-01
Johnny at 16:31:49 on 18/01:
Smul at 16:21:51 on 18/01:
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.

Kind of weird tbh :P

Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)

I'm not saying Messina is not cheating, I honestly have no idea are they doing so. Considering all their history there's strong chance they are. Yet there is no clear proof of them doing so atm, but people (not you, you actually talked pro-messina as you said yourself) still talk about them doing this, while there are 2 other fams who clearly did it.

It would be like Messi cought using substances and people talk about Ronaldo must be using something too cause he is also really damn good, ignoring Messi completely...

Also it's huge shame for Omerta that something like this happened, if something like this (or all previous cheating cases) happened in serious mmo game it would mean it's end. No one wants to play game where you get beaten by cheaters and incompetency of admins...

Yeah well, as I just added to the article, I really wonder how far this cheating is capable of going, are all input fields this corrupt? Because then you can cheat basically everywhere in the game.

Besides that, there are 2 "different" cheats. Righelli and Lucchese got caught for the Hitlist cheat, while people are more upset with the health cheat I guess, as that has a direct, fundamental impact on the game.
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
Link
16:21:51 - 18-01
Johnny at 16:05:31 on 18/01:
What's very absurd imo is that 2 dons from 2 families got akilled, also only members from 2 families got akilled. Yet article itself and people in comments talk about 3rd family who wasn't akilled.

Kind of weird tbh :P

Armstrong never got caught cheating, yet he was always talked about when the topic came up. ;)
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
Link
16:20:10 - 18-01
Changa at 16:17:27 on 18/01:
Arcanine at 16:16:45 on 18/01:
Changa at 16:12:41 on 18/01:
Check Furyan ingame, was that possible?

Look at the times he got shot...

It's perfectly possible if you train defensive.

People who get shot 3x 60k within 20 mins or so would be suspicious

Yeah, right.

I have to agree with Arcanine here, the gaps are constantly 30 mins or more, and never more than 2 shots every 45 mins (bloodbuying). It's very well possible to survive like this in this KA if you have full def BG setup.
18-01 Doping in Omerta?!
Link
15:49:35 - 18-01
PannaJunk at 15:44:58 on 18/01:
Smul at 15:41:42 on 18/01:
PannaJunk at 15:39:22 on 18/01:
Smul at 15:35:03 on 18/01:
PannaJunk at 15:32:59 on 18/01:
Well Smul you yourself also never died in the big DIG IT versions, what about that ?

Different KA :) Rob saved my ass twice.

It's funny how you are trying to drag other people down with you.

You can think whatever you want about my Pepino account, but it was legit. I've always been legit.

Messina tops are legit to, why do you drag them in this news topic ?

Why are you attacking me personally? Frustrated much? Have you seen who wrote this article. My only comment I made in this topic was actually Pro-Messina.

I drag you in because you had a strong acc too and since you are OB crew dont point fingers to sbanks. If sbanks led dig it i would mention him. I dont know if you cheated Smul and tbh i wouldnt care the fact is people are named in this topic who arent even proven guilty. Write about a fam who just got gaught not about a fam who didnt got gaught.

I had a strong account which was compared to other accounts strong. Often enough I still get people in my PM asking for "gimme screenshot" "Aren't you the guy with the Pepino account?" and shit like that. (not to brag but just goes to show that even after years it's still considered as something insane by certain people). It wasn't an ordinary "strong account".

Sbanks posted this before showing it to me, and now it's too late to remove anything. As far as my knowledge goes and mostly in a retrospective way now that I know about some of these bugs, I assume this abuse started (on a bigger scale) around the 3.3 version, maybe slightly earlier.