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This morning, people from a few different families got akilled for using an automated way to scratch. In #help, the blame was quickly put on our userscript Beyond, but on Omerta's Facebook Wall this was rectified, stating the people who got akilled merely used Beyond as a "preconceived excuse".
This makes you wonder, though, what kind of script the people used, and how the admins caught it. If it was an userscript, like Beyond itself also is, there is absolutely no way the admins could see these people had it installed, thanks to GreaseMonkey's sandbox environment and the fact that it is a client side script, not server side. This means the script is executed after Omerta has created the whole page and thus, if they want to detect such a script, they are already "too late" in the process.
Two ways of detecting scripts come to mind:
Unfortunately, admins in #help still say that Beyond is the one to blame, but we are confident this will end soon after their rectification. It is true that Beyond had an automatic scratch script, in a far distant past, but DrunkenGamer talked with us about it and we immediately complied without hesitation and took it out of Beyond, and also took it out of the site. They asked us to do this because they were afraid Beyond caused the 50x errors with the massive load of requests from automatic scratching. Everything the admins say on their Facebook posts is true and we, as Beyond team, hope that the things happened today will not affect our good relation with the admins
This makes you wonder, though, what kind of script the people used, and how the admins caught it. If it was an userscript, like Beyond itself also is, there is absolutely no way the admins could see these people had it installed, thanks to GreaseMonkey's sandbox environment and the fact that it is a client side script, not server side. This means the script is executed after Omerta has created the whole page and thus, if they want to detect such a script, they are already "too late" in the process.
Two ways of detecting scripts come to mind:
- Sending admin warnings, with those nice little red envelopes, to detect if an user who is online is really behind his computer. This is a good, solid way to detect scripting, and a way they should use more. If they used this method, however, there is no way they could deliberately say the akills were justified for using a scratching script. They could only say the users simply scripted.
- Logging the times an action is executed. This is the most logical way, and also a very good way to detect certain scripts. The logic behind it is simple: Every time a S&W card is bought or checked, save the time it was done into the database. If a player did 100+ cards with exactly the same time in between, it is clearly a script; there is no way a player could done so many cards in a row and time it perfectly. If the script that is used had no random numbers, but always executed his code on the exact same time interval, then this is the way the admins have detected it and can confidently say it was because of scripting.
Unfortunately, admins in #help still say that Beyond is the one to blame, but we are confident this will end soon after their rectification. It is true that Beyond had an automatic scratch script, in a far distant past, but DrunkenGamer talked with us about it and we immediately complied without hesitation and took it out of Beyond, and also took it out of the site. They asked us to do this because they were afraid Beyond caused the 50x errors with the massive load of requests from automatic scratching. Everything the admins say on their Facebook posts is true and we, as Beyond team, hope that the things happened today will not affect our good relation with the admins
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Omerta can confirm that nobody was using Omerta Beyond for the function we busted for. They are just saying that - a preconceived excuse for a cheapskate script.
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| War started on: 09:09:02 09-05-2011 | War ended on: 09:20:03 09-05-2011 |
| Bullet difference: -5,828,878 | War duration: 11m |
| Money difference: -$1,008,948,251 | Players died: 31 |
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Anonymous (16:43:08 - 09-05)
Mata-Ratos (16:06:47 - 09-05)
Anonymous at 13:31:02 on 09/05:
31 ppl get killed from different fams, and the fanboy go find a account that could be from someone from conflict, theres no limits to the #1 conflict fan Mata-Ratos _o_
Mata-Ratos at 12:32:06 on 09/05:
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
FlowzZ at 12:20:55 on 09/05:
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
31 ppl get killed from different fams, and the fanboy go find a account that could be from someone from conflict, theres no limits to the #1 conflict fan Mata-Ratos _o_
Posting anonimously rules fuck face :D
And sensje, yes i do! i don't even use lackeys, i just come here to flame and piss ppl off. :D
Omerta is kinda faggy nowadays, go and play LoL! :w
Anonymous at 14:36:16 on 09/05:
It's like http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/101654
They say it's ilegal, but how would they detect it? It doesn't play for you...
It's like http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/101654
They say it's ilegal, but how would they detect it? It doesn't play for you...
Installed 74 times.
74 more akills comming up, also illegal to have this addon.
Anonymous (14:36:16 - 09-05)
It's like http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/101654
They say it's ilegal, but how would they detect it? It doesn't play for you...
They say it's ilegal, but how would they detect it? It doesn't play for you...
. (14:31:58 - 09-05)
scratzin at 14:13:47 on 09/05:
Without scratchers, bullet prices @ obay will quickly soar above 1k per bullet, pushing the game economy far over its breaking point. With lackeys you make a net profit of about 2mil a day, meaning it will take over a month to get one 60k shot.
So unless a bullet or moneybug is found again, no war will be finished, there simply won't be enough money or bullets to take down all the lackey brugs.
But hey, at least the game will be better now you got rid of cheaters, right brando?
Without scratchers, bullet prices @ obay will quickly soar above 1k per bullet, pushing the game economy far over its breaking point. With lackeys you make a net profit of about 2mil a day, meaning it will take over a month to get one 60k shot.
So unless a bullet or moneybug is found again, no war will be finished, there simply won't be enough money or bullets to take down all the lackey brugs.
But hey, at least the game will be better now you got rid of cheaters, right brando?
Whats ur problem u can still scratch dude..
scratzin (14:13:47 - 09-05)
Without scratchers, bullet prices @ obay will quickly soar above 1k per bullet, pushing the game economy far over its breaking point. With lackeys you make a net profit of about 2mil a day, meaning it will take over a month to get one 60k shot.
So unless a bullet or moneybug is found again, no war will be finished, there simply won't be enough money or bullets to take down all the lackey brugs.
But hey, at least the game will be better now you got rid of cheaters, right brando?
So unless a bullet or moneybug is found again, no war will be finished, there simply won't be enough money or bullets to take down all the lackey brugs.
But hey, at least the game will be better now you got rid of cheaters, right brando?
Anonymous (13:31:02 - 09-05)
Mata-Ratos at 12:32:06 on 09/05:
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
FlowzZ at 12:20:55 on 09/05:
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
31 ppl get killed from different fams, and the fanboy go find a account that could be from someone from conflict, theres no limits to the #1 conflict fan Mata-Ratos _o_
Spy at 12:22:46 on 09/05:
So, people with a random scratch script do get akilled and people who are using the scratch script inbedded in Beyond are not ?
It seems to me like Admins just wanted a couple of people dead, maybe even target certain fams.
Admins cant track the scratch script in Beyond (it would seem) and thus they say they cant akill anyone for using it, but then they should just disallow the use of beyond untill the script/old version is completely removed from the game. If admins woulda done this fairly they would have akilled everyone using Beyond because the program clearly contains a scratcher script and is thus promoting the use of it.
Cuz right now a lot of people/fams are being given an unfair advantage over others.
And no, I didnt get akilled, jus sayin.
^^
So, people with a random scratch script do get akilled and people who are using the scratch script inbedded in Beyond are not ?
It seems to me like Admins just wanted a couple of people dead, maybe even target certain fams.
Admins cant track the scratch script in Beyond (it would seem) and thus they say they cant akill anyone for using it, but then they should just disallow the use of beyond untill the script/old version is completely removed from the game. If admins woulda done this fairly they would have akilled everyone using Beyond because the program clearly contains a scratcher script and is thus promoting the use of it.
Cuz right now a lot of people/fams are being given an unfair advantage over others.
And no, I didnt get akilled, jus sayin.
^^
We added it indeed a long long long time ago, drunkengamer asked us to remove it, so we did. we even removed the version who had this automated scratcher from our downloads.
this script was made by another guy, every 3 seconds the page got reloaded, which is easy detectable ofcourse.
the people in help had never a fucking clue how omerta beyond / sleepy worked, when something was wrong, they always said.. ow u got beyond/sleepy? yes? ow then its beyond/sleepy causing this..
they lack knowledge about how the game and beyond/sleepy work.. its kinda sad beyond/sleepy always get blamed for stuff it even cant do.
ofc im here to defend beyond, its a great addon, which makes this game a bit more easier and gives u some extra stats stuff and so on.
anyway.. kinda sad move by admins anyway :x
Clam (12:54:52 - 09-05)
Macro programs FTW \o/
Anonymous at 12:13:34 on 09/05:
Actually, some got akilled without even using a scratch script.
Actually, some got akilled without even using a scratch script.
Mata-Ratos at 12:35:23 on 09/05:
burn them all, phuckers!!!!
sensje at 12:32:57 on 09/05:
Im oldfashion and silly maybe, but if I remember it right. Any Akill will first get a warning, to contact a member in #help. This may happen 3 times, after that the account will be Akilled not matter if you reply to #help or not.
In certain actions, like finding a script on your ip could turn up in a direct Akill, then again half Omerta could be down by then or as we seen before 1 entire family.
Imo the 31 deaths admin picked today are too less for a major scripting act, or too much for a single user script.
When admin Akill players of the fact they use Beyond, then proly half Omerta would be Akilled.
Rest my case.
Im oldfashion and silly maybe, but if I remember it right. Any Akill will first get a warning, to contact a member in #help. This may happen 3 times, after that the account will be Akilled not matter if you reply to #help or not.
In certain actions, like finding a script on your ip could turn up in a direct Akill, then again half Omerta could be down by then or as we seen before 1 entire family.
Imo the 31 deaths admin picked today are too less for a major scripting act, or too much for a single user script.
When admin Akill players of the fact they use Beyond, then proly half Omerta would be Akilled.
Rest my case.
burn them all, phuckers!!!!
Ah seems you don't like Beyond Mata-Ratos :P
Well would you play Omerta like the old days then?
Be online 16 hours a day, clicking all you need to gain rp?
I don't think you would like that;)
Spy at 12:22:46 on 09/05:
So, people with a random scratch script do get akilled and people who are using the scratch script inbedded in Beyond are not ?
It seems to me like Admins just wanted a couple of people dead, maybe even target certain fams.
Admins cant track the scratch script in Beyond (it would seem) and thus they say they cant akill anyone for using it, but then they should just disallow the use of beyond untill the script is removed. If admins woulda done this fairly they would have akilled everyone using Beyond because the program clearly contains a scratcher script and is thus promoting the use of it.
Cuz right now a lot of people/fams are being given an unfair advantage over others.
And no, I didnt get akilled, jus sayin.
^^
So, people with a random scratch script do get akilled and people who are using the scratch script inbedded in Beyond are not ?
It seems to me like Admins just wanted a couple of people dead, maybe even target certain fams.
Admins cant track the scratch script in Beyond (it would seem) and thus they say they cant akill anyone for using it, but then they should just disallow the use of beyond untill the script is removed. If admins woulda done this fairly they would have akilled everyone using Beyond because the program clearly contains a scratcher script and is thus promoting the use of it.
Cuz right now a lot of people/fams are being given an unfair advantage over others.
And no, I didnt get akilled, jus sayin.
^^
About that other thing you mentioned; as far as I heard none of the people akilled used that old version of Beyond (like the admins also stated) but they rather used an own adjusted script, most of them based on the very old script made by Thrastemegetr. The code, by Thrastemegetr, which forms the foundation for these forks doesn't have any random time intervals, as far as I saw. Every action just triggered after 3000ms (3sec), and thus this one is very easy to be detected, following point 2 from the article.
Spy at 12:22:46 on 09/05:
So, people with a random scratch script do get akilled and people who are using the scratch script inbedded in Beyond are not ?
It seems to me like Admins just wanted a couple of people dead, maybe even target certain fams.
Admins cant track the scratch script in Beyond (it would seem) and thus they say they cant akill anyone for using it, but then they should just disallow the use of beyond untill the script/old version is completely removed from the game. If admins woulda done this fairly they would have akilled everyone using Beyond because the program clearly contains a scratcher script and is thus promoting the use of it.
Cuz right now a lot of people/fams are being given an unfair advantage over others.
And no, I didnt get akilled, jus sayin.
^^
So, people with a random scratch script do get akilled and people who are using the scratch script inbedded in Beyond are not ?
It seems to me like Admins just wanted a couple of people dead, maybe even target certain fams.
Admins cant track the scratch script in Beyond (it would seem) and thus they say they cant akill anyone for using it, but then they should just disallow the use of beyond untill the script/old version is completely removed from the game. If admins woulda done this fairly they would have akilled everyone using Beyond because the program clearly contains a scratcher script and is thus promoting the use of it.
Cuz right now a lot of people/fams are being given an unfair advantage over others.
And no, I didnt get akilled, jus sayin.
^^
why make beyond illegal? i dont have a scratch script in mine.
Mata-Ratos (12:35:23 - 09-05)
sensje at 12:32:57 on 09/05:
Im oldfashion and silly maybe, but if I remember it right. Any Akill will first get a warning, to contact a member in #help. This may happen 3 times, after that the account will be Akilled not matter if you reply to #help or not.
In certain actions, like finding a script on your ip could turn up in a direct Akill, then again half Omerta could be down by then or as we seen before 1 entire family.
Imo the 31 deaths admin picked today are too less for a major scripting act, or too much for a single user script.
When admin Akill players of the fact they use Beyond, then proly half Omerta would be Akilled.
Rest my case.
Im oldfashion and silly maybe, but if I remember it right. Any Akill will first get a warning, to contact a member in #help. This may happen 3 times, after that the account will be Akilled not matter if you reply to #help or not.
In certain actions, like finding a script on your ip could turn up in a direct Akill, then again half Omerta could be down by then or as we seen before 1 entire family.
Imo the 31 deaths admin picked today are too less for a major scripting act, or too much for a single user script.
When admin Akill players of the fact they use Beyond, then proly half Omerta would be Akilled.
Rest my case.
burn them all, phuckers!!!!
Anonymous at 12:13:34 on 09/05:
Actually, some got akilled without even using a scratch script.
Actually, some got akilled without even using a scratch script.
Lies.
Im oldfashion and silly maybe, but if I remember it right. Any Akill will first get a warning, to contact a member in #help. This may happen 3 times, after that the account will be Akilled not matter if you reply to #help or not.
In certain actions, like finding a script on your ip could turn up in a direct Akill, then again half Omerta could be down by then or as we seen before 1 entire family.
Imo the 31 deaths admin picked today are too less for a major scripting act, or too much for a single user script.
When admin Akill players of the fact they use Beyond, then proly half Omerta would be Akilled.
Rest my case.
In certain actions, like finding a script on your ip could turn up in a direct Akill, then again half Omerta could be down by then or as we seen before 1 entire family.
Imo the 31 deaths admin picked today are too less for a major scripting act, or too much for a single user script.
When admin Akill players of the fact they use Beyond, then proly half Omerta would be Akilled.
Rest my case.
Mata-Ratos (12:32:06 - 09-05)
FlowzZ at 12:20:55 on 09/05:
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
So, people with a random scratch script do get akilled and people who are using the scratch script inbedded in Beyond are not ?
It seems to me like Admins just wanted a couple of people dead, maybe even target certain fams.
Admins cant track the scratch script in Beyond (it would seem) and thus they say they cant akill anyone for using it, but then they should just disallow the use of beyond untill the script/old version is completely removed from the game. If admins woulda done this fairly they would have akilled everyone using Beyond because the program clearly contains a scratcher script and is thus promoting the use of it.
Cuz right now a lot of people/fams are being given an unfair advantage over others.
And no, I didnt get akilled, jus sayin.
^^
It seems to me like Admins just wanted a couple of people dead, maybe even target certain fams.
Admins cant track the scratch script in Beyond (it would seem) and thus they say they cant akill anyone for using it, but then they should just disallow the use of beyond untill the script/old version is completely removed from the game. If admins woulda done this fairly they would have akilled everyone using Beyond because the program clearly contains a scratcher script and is thus promoting the use of it.
Cuz right now a lot of people/fams are being given an unfair advantage over others.
And no, I didnt get akilled, jus sayin.
^^
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
31 ppl get killed from different fams, and the fanboy go find a account that could be from someone from conflict, theres no limits to the #1 conflict fan Mata-Ratos _o_
Posting anonimously rules fuck face :D
And sensje, yes i do! i don't even use lackeys, i just come here to flame and piss ppl off. :D
Omerta is kinda faggy nowadays, go and play LoL! :w
didnt you notice you dont piss noone off ? you just make a clown out of yourself... if thats your intention it works, theres clowns that are clowns the way they play the game and talk like yama and friends, and there are clowns like you that cant even be considered players... just some clown who likes to talk crap and you think you bother people, like anyone cares about you.. if anyone asks who mata-ratos is , the answer is either the conflict fanboy or the conflict hater, you happy with that definition? congratz fool :D