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This morning, people from a few different families got akilled for using an automated way to scratch. In #help, the blame was quickly put on our userscript Beyond, but on Omerta's Facebook Wall this was rectified, stating the people who got akilled merely used Beyond as a "preconceived excuse".
This makes you wonder, though, what kind of script the people used, and how the admins caught it. If it was an userscript, like Beyond itself also is, there is absolutely no way the admins could see these people had it installed, thanks to GreaseMonkey's sandbox environment and the fact that it is a client side script, not server side. This means the script is executed after Omerta has created the whole page and thus, if they want to detect such a script, they are already "too late" in the process.
Two ways of detecting scripts come to mind:
Unfortunately, admins in #help still say that Beyond is the one to blame, but we are confident this will end soon after their rectification. It is true that Beyond had an automatic scratch script, in a far distant past, but DrunkenGamer talked with us about it and we immediately complied without hesitation and took it out of Beyond, and also took it out of the site. They asked us to do this because they were afraid Beyond caused the 50x errors with the massive load of requests from automatic scratching. Everything the admins say on their Facebook posts is true and we, as Beyond team, hope that the things happened today will not affect our good relation with the admins
This makes you wonder, though, what kind of script the people used, and how the admins caught it. If it was an userscript, like Beyond itself also is, there is absolutely no way the admins could see these people had it installed, thanks to GreaseMonkey's sandbox environment and the fact that it is a client side script, not server side. This means the script is executed after Omerta has created the whole page and thus, if they want to detect such a script, they are already "too late" in the process.
Two ways of detecting scripts come to mind:
- Sending admin warnings, with those nice little red envelopes, to detect if an user who is online is really behind his computer. This is a good, solid way to detect scripting, and a way they should use more. If they used this method, however, there is no way they could deliberately say the akills were justified for using a scratching script. They could only say the users simply scripted.
- Logging the times an action is executed. This is the most logical way, and also a very good way to detect certain scripts. The logic behind it is simple: Every time a S&W card is bought or checked, save the time it was done into the database. If a player did 100+ cards with exactly the same time in between, it is clearly a script; there is no way a player could done so many cards in a row and time it perfectly. If the script that is used had no random numbers, but always executed his code on the exact same time interval, then this is the way the admins have detected it and can confidently say it was because of scripting.
Unfortunately, admins in #help still say that Beyond is the one to blame, but we are confident this will end soon after their rectification. It is true that Beyond had an automatic scratch script, in a far distant past, but DrunkenGamer talked with us about it and we immediately complied without hesitation and took it out of Beyond, and also took it out of the site. They asked us to do this because they were afraid Beyond caused the 50x errors with the massive load of requests from automatic scratching. Everything the admins say on their Facebook posts is true and we, as Beyond team, hope that the things happened today will not affect our good relation with the admins
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Omerta can confirm that nobody was using Omerta Beyond for the function we busted for. They are just saying that - a preconceived excuse for a cheapskate script.
statistics
War started on: 09:09:02 09-05-2011 | War ended on: 09:20:03 09-05-2011 |
Bullet difference: -5,828,878 | War duration: 11m |
Money difference: -$1,008,948,251 | Players died: 31 |
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kredu (10:59:37 - 11-05)
Anonymous (14:55:59 - 10-05)
just check today scratch and win results and somebody tell me what´s the diference after they akill people without any proof or logical proofs
none ....
how can this guys be so noobs omfg
none ....
how can this guys be so noobs omfg
Anonymous (12:30:30 - 10-05)
admins are gay! as usual they just kill a few random players based on nothing cause they have no real evidence.
when you go to #help the first %dude (who thinks he has the bigges dick in the world because he is an "admin") starts yelling at you so you dont even can get a proper conversatoin going.
:r
when you go to #help the first %dude (who thinks he has the bigges dick in the world because he is an "admin") starts yelling at you so you dont even can get a proper conversatoin going.
:r
Anonymous (11:06:27 - 10-05)
Mata-Ratos at 17:52:56 on 09/05:
No one is spelled separately, noob!
Stop ranking and go back to school!
No one is spelled separately, noob!
Stop ranking and go back to school!
Pronoun
noone
Common misspelling of no one.
So true! :D
Anonymous (11:06:09 - 10-05)
Anonymous at 09:44:14 on 10/05:
most scripts stop if any link was changed duh.
most scripts stop if any link was changed duh.
It's quite easy to keep the old link alive and give manual players another URL in the game - so when they click on "Bullets" for example, they'll be sent to bullets3.php, while scripts will still go to bullet2.php, right?
I'm not much into coding scripts, lol, so don't know the details, but that's how I assume it should work - scripts don't read links in the game, right? Those links are coded in scripts..
Anonymous (08:24:16 - 10-05)
Dopedog at 08:08:05 on 10/05:
In the case of the older scripts, the solution is pretty clear. Just change a few bits of HTML an alter the element ID's. This will cause the script to fail. Ofcourse this will only work with the not updating scripts.
If anything, it's an easy thing to do with little consequence, yet making the life of the scripter harder.
In the case of the older scripts, the solution is pretty clear. Just change a few bits of HTML an alter the element ID's. This will cause the script to fail. Ofcourse this will only work with the not updating scripts.
If anything, it's an easy thing to do with little consequence, yet making the life of the scripter harder.
Instead of bullets.php it was changed to bullets2.php. And they busted many scripts back then.
But these were the old days, where they actually gave a fuck about catching scripts.
Now all they care about is to gain more and more money. And all of the devs are working on lackeys and so on. No one is doing anything to catch scripts.
Now they akill based on a hunch.
And they dont really care about scripters anymore.
They think their Lackeys are the most important thing to work on.
Next to come is Bullet lackeys.
Followed by scratch and win lackeys.
what comes after that??
Dopedog (08:08:05 - 10-05)
In the case of the older scripts, the solution is pretty clear. Just change a few bits of HTML an alter the element ID's. This will cause the script to fail. Ofcourse this will only work with the not updating scripts.
If anything, it's an easy thing to do with little consequence, yet making the life of the scripter harder.
If anything, it's an easy thing to do with little consequence, yet making the life of the scripter harder.
Anonymous (23:56:21 - 09-05)
Lol they caught nothing... just random akills...
0 akills .dm right :')
0 akills .dm right :')
Mcgee (20:20:22 - 09-05)
Getting akilled over scratch n win lottery tickets lol, makes me want to stick around longer to see the next episode in this freak show. That's like Frodo on another roleplaying game getting akilled on his fantasy adventure because he stole cheese in elftown. But hey, an online rpg guy gots to do what he's got to do man!
* grabs his fairy wand and flys off
Haters can't see me.
Single and wanting to get married
I wanna cum in ur booty all night baby <3 :$
* grabs his fairy wand and flys off
Haters can't see me.
Single and wanting to get married
I wanna cum in ur booty all night baby <3 :$
Anonymous (19:48:36 - 09-05)
To avoid scripting, admins made all kind of lackeys.
Starting with Cars and crimes, then Booze and Narcs.
Now they want to add Bullet lackeys.
What's next?
Scratch and win lackey?
:')
Starting with Cars and crimes, then Booze and Narcs.
Now they want to add Bullet lackeys.
What's next?
Scratch and win lackey?
:')
klassikl (19:36:41 - 09-05)
In the article it says, DG asked you to remove it because they thought it was the reason behind the 50x errors. If that was the reason, why is it illegal then? Since it made the game buggy. They didnt ask you guys to remove it because they saw it as cheating right?
Anyway everyone using something they arent sure of its legal or not. Always risk getting akilled. But this random akilling is kind of bullshit.
Anyway everyone using something they arent sure of its legal or not. Always risk getting akilled. But this random akilling is kind of bullshit.
Anonymous (18:59:21 - 09-05)
The admin are dummassess... I was akilled and don´t use beyond or any script. I only play during the week and the still say that i´m a scratch script.
So there some accounts that we can do and we not need to be so bright to get there. With they script (lackeys) i can do crimes, buy drugs and booze and scratch at the same time. And if i play 8 hour a day i can do between 2.400 and 4.800 scratchs a day. So admi do the mats....
So there some accounts that we can do and we not need to be so bright to get there. With they script (lackeys) i can do crimes, buy drugs and booze and scratch at the same time. And if i play 8 hour a day i can do between 2.400 and 4.800 scratchs a day. So admi do the mats....
Mata-Ratos (18:32:36 - 09-05)
HH at 18:26:53 on 09/05:
yes mata ratos this deadcandance its me , and you want know one thing i almost dont play scratch and win , who fucking care about a game who dont give anyshit , but lol seems i am a cheater for playing maybee 5 / 10 scratchs once a while lol
we always have a first time \o
i needed this akill to complete my passage from omerta ;)
Mata-Ratos at 12:32:06 on 09/05:
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
FlowzZ at 12:20:55 on 09/05:
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
yes mata ratos this deadcandance its me , and you want know one thing i almost dont play scratch and win , who fucking care about a game who dont give anyshit , but lol seems i am a cheater for playing maybee 5 / 10 scratchs once a while lol
we always have a first time \o
i needed this akill to complete my passage from omerta ;)
awwww :(
HH (18:26:53 - 09-05)
Mata-Ratos at 12:32:06 on 09/05:
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
FlowzZ at 12:20:55 on 09/05:
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
yes mata ratos this deadcandance its me , and you want know one thing i almost dont play scratch and win , who fucking care about a game who dont give anyshit , but lol seems i am a cheater for playing maybee 5 / 10 scratchs once a while lol
we always have a first time \o
i needed this akill to complete my passage from omerta ;)
Anonymous (18:23:40 - 09-05)
sbanks at 14:50:57 on 09/05:
Installed 74 times.
74 more akills comming up, also illegal to have this addon.
Anonymous at 14:36:16 on 09/05:
It's like http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/101654
They say it's ilegal, but how would they detect it? It doesn't play for you...
It's like http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/101654
They say it's ilegal, but how would they detect it? It doesn't play for you...
Installed 74 times.
74 more akills comming up, also illegal to have this addon.
Mata-Ratos (17:52:56 - 09-05)
No one is spelled separately, noob!
Stop ranking and go back to school!
Stop ranking and go back to school!
Mata-Ratos (17:13:29 - 09-05)
Anonymous at 16:43:08 on 09/05:
didnt you notice you dont piss noone off ? you just make a clown out of yourself... if thats your intention it works, theres clowns that are clowns the way they play the game and talk like yama and friends, and there are clowns like you that cant even be considered players... just some clown who likes to talk crap and you think you bother people, like anyone cares about you.. if anyone asks who mata-ratos is , the answer is either the conflict fanboy or the conflict hater, you happy with that definition? congratz fool :D
Mata-Ratos at 16:06:47 on 09/05:
Posting anonimously rules fuck face :D
And sensje, yes i do! i don't even use lackeys, i just come here to flame and piss ppl off. :D
Omerta is kinda faggy nowadays, go and play LoL! :w
Anonymous at 13:31:02 on 09/05:
31 ppl get killed from different fams, and the fanboy go find a account that could be from someone from conflict, theres no limits to the #1 conflict fan Mata-Ratos _o_
Mata-Ratos at 12:32:06 on 09/05:
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
FlowzZ at 12:20:55 on 09/05:
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
wrong stats...
mata , behave :o
ain't life a bitch?
was that deadcandance hh from conflict? i just lol'ed xD
31 ppl get killed from different fams, and the fanboy go find a account that could be from someone from conflict, theres no limits to the #1 conflict fan Mata-Ratos _o_
Posting anonimously rules fuck face :D
And sensje, yes i do! i don't even use lackeys, i just come here to flame and piss ppl off. :D
Omerta is kinda faggy nowadays, go and play LoL! :w
didnt you notice you dont piss noone off ? you just make a clown out of yourself... if thats your intention it works, theres clowns that are clowns the way they play the game and talk like yama and friends, and there are clowns like you that cant even be considered players... just some clown who likes to talk crap and you think you bother people, like anyone cares about you.. if anyone asks who mata-ratos is , the answer is either the conflict fanboy or the conflict hater, you happy with that definition? congratz fool :D
Yeah, i'm not a player. And i couldn't care less what others think, i do get my kicks by pissing on your heads, if it bothers you or not i couldn't care less. I bother the right people when i feel like it.
And would you show your nick please? It's really a bummer talking to fags with no face :\
most scripts stop if any link was changed duh.
It's quite easy to keep the old link alive and give manual players another URL in the game - so when they click on "Bullets" for example, they'll be sent to bullets3.php, while scripts will still go to bullet2.php, right?
I'm not much into coding scripts, lol, so don't know the details, but that's how I assume it should work - scripts don't read links in the game, right? Those links are coded in scripts..