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04-02 Let's Finish This
Author: mmm
Last updated: 3215d 6h 12m 21s ago by Redspeert
Comments: 188
Views: 57,367
Votes: 2 (3 average)
Version: 4.9.4
Involved families: Empusa, Gambino, Lionsgate, Weareangry, Bosphorus, Colossal, Siberia
article
Empusa+ and Gambino are currently shooting Siberia which clearly looks to be unfinished business.
Few moments later Empusa started firing at Colossal as well.
Lionsgate also threw in some shots at siberia.

Odds after counter:
Bruglione 0.83:1
Chief 0.86:1

Bosphorus started their counter vs Empusa
statements
Schopenhauer (Top Gambino): Revenge, the sweetest morsel to the mouth that ever was cooked in hell.
statistics
War started on: 18:13:04 04-02-2016 War ended on: 21:33:03 05-02-2016
Bullet difference: -8,255,568 War duration: 1d 3h 19m
Money difference: +$13,429,618 Players died: 149




deaths
Dead Families:
[Empusa] Family down on 21:13 05-02
[Siberia] Family down on 09:17 05-02
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Bosphorus | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 29
Colossal | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 1 | brug: 5 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 93
Empusa | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 5 | brug: 36 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 517
Gambino | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 27
Siberia | swin: 2 | assa: 2 | lc: 0 | chief: 5 | brug: 18 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 288
Weareangry | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 18
Total | swin: 6 | assa: 3 | lc: 5 | chief: 11 | brug: 64 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 972
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Anonymous (06:57:32 - 05-02)
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everyone bashing on Gambino but Gambino is the only fam who attacked Siberia one on one and two times in a row. so imo they dont deserve those insults.

and they also lose 1 brug during this war thats also another achievement in my point of view, coz siberia could shoot them back since its a 1 vs 1 war, and they didnt let siberia to launch a counter.

btw, did imperium, caliente and phoneix left anarchy ? is it the end of pacts era ?
Anonymous (06:11:09 - 05-02)
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Anonymous at 05:54:07 on 05/02:
Donop at 03:21:37 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 02:43:32 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Anonymous at 02:43:32 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Im crying.

nice thou , as Don of siberia hiding , hours in his villa , we just wanted shoot him empty :D , nothing wrong whit that :P
After that he went in sh for life i geuss :D

Thats how we fuck ponnys ... gangbang on the don :D
Bas Germany (06:11:09 - 05-02)
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Anonymous at 05:54:07 on 05/02:
Donop at 03:21:37 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 02:43:32 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Anonymous at 02:43:32 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Im crying.

nice thou , as Don of siberia hiding , hours in his villa , we just wanted shoot him empty :D , nothing wrong whit that :P
After that he went in sh for life i geuss :D

Yea let your top3 + capo's waste bullets, makes sense
Anonymous (05:54:07 - 05-02)
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Donop at 03:21:37 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 02:43:32 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Anonymous at 02:43:32 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Im crying.

nice thou , as Don of siberia hiding , hours in his villa , we just wanted shoot him empty :D , nothing wrong whit that :P
After that he went in sh for life i geuss :D
Anonymous (03:53:13 - 05-02)
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Donop Cayman Islands (03:21:37 - 05-02)
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Anonymous at 02:43:32 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Anonymous at 02:43:32 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Im crying.
Anonymous (02:43:32 - 05-02)
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Anonymous at 01:22:39 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???




shhhhhhhhhhht! he is fuckin angry!
Anonymous (01:22:39 - 05-02)
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Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0


oh hi cheater :) how are you doin???
MurderInc Austria (01:12:34 - 05-02)
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Anonymous at 00:53:11 on 05/02:
True that if you stack the numbers up like that it is a massive amount of over kill and alot of overkill or so it may seem. As i stated before not every brug chief and lc in the attacking fams shot as that would simple not be able and not just amount of possible shooters, but also actually amount of people able of being online and actually shooting. I do agree with you that it is for the reader to think about this for him or herself.

The reason however i started all these talks is that this is actually what you say to one of the posters on this site. and then in a next say "its quite an outliner cause of the high numbers" apperently forgetting what you said before that, Which was "but in most wars, not everyone is shooting everyone" and ill add not everyone is shooting. Again ill state its for the reader to ponder of this aswell.
Sorry, my wording was unclear. What I meant was that in a war with counters, not all families are always getting shot by the counering fam. So while the overall ratio might be (like in this case) negative for the attackers after a counter, individual families might still be shooting with worse odds (e.g. no one is countering on Gambino in this case). The fact that not all shooters are online is a non-issue as it applies to both sides, so a 5:1 gangbang is still different from a 2:1 war in relative terms.

Anonymous at 00:53:11 on 05/02:
The biased comes from the initial reports of the vinci war where the attacking side pretty much got dragged thru the mud, over these numbers, which where introduced only in that war, and where not seen in previous versions, where odds where just as staggering. as i said in my previous post and you compleetly ignore anarchy(60+lc+) VS Tattaglia(whitewalkers) which was a staggering overpowerment aswell did not show these numbers. ill admit they might not have been as high but cant be far off since whitewalkers right now have 19 lc+. This atleast creates a sense of some biasedness in reporting.
We've experimented with various things in the past, including ratios and various visualizations to display them (based on, for example, fam strength). It's just a matter of not having the time or motivation to do it for every war. As an example, all war reports last version were created by one reporter, would you have rather had none at all?

I would also argue that the Tattaglia war was not directly comparable as it was a fight over starting in a city without permission (or so they thought trolol), and at the same time a 1v1 war. You can't blame Anarchy for having the size they had, and you can't expect them not to shoot someone over something like that just because it would be a gangbang. It's all about the small details here. Various families who claim to not be related attacking one family 6 vs 1 is a different thing entirely.

Anonymous at 00:53:11 on 05/02:
I can actually very well discern between what is relevant and what is not, and how to see things in perspective if i might say so myself, what i find to be lacking is you grasping the point, of my point being made.
And what i think is shamefull is that you in your last line resort once again to trying to "degrade" someone by saying they need to go back to kindergarten, and i personally believe you as a moderator of this site should set your self to a highers standard then that. or if you are speaking on personal note on the matter, atleast make it clear that you are doing exactly that.
Alot of forums where moderators partake in converstaion, and if they do so on personal note make that distinction and actually post that.
Sadly it is probably too late to start any meaningful moderation on this forum. It has always been toxic, as is this community in general, as we all know. I don't really care about the tone here as long as it doesn't go too far into personal business, and I expect everyone else to do the same.
Anonymous (00:58:22 - 05-02)
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Anonymous at 00:53:03 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:50:23 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:45:31 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:30:51 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:27:34 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:21:03 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0

Sssst Cheater since ...

most likely taken from lina :490,014 (Backfire: 430,014)

and they are draining her of bullets, which makes waaaay more sense then hitting her with 60k and prolly suicide 5 accounts of her. But murderinc just got his ass handed to him in this topic and now is looking to trash talk someone else.
even though siberia would most likely do the same thing if roles where reversed.
so who the hell are you calling a noob. idiot?
Well, I have most certainly never seen anyone preshoot someone (even while online, for the last two!) with top accounts (Don, Top 3, 2 capos) without doing any damage. I don't think anyone else has either. It's quite cute.

Full villa protection, hometown top 10 overall rank/points.

Yeah sure shoot 60k then... why suicide if u got them overpowerd.

war is 1 vs 1
He was online for a total of 4 attempts now.

Yeah in his SH...

Actually you might not have seen it but it happens, the missing comes from shooting no more then 15k at the target, in rapid succession as not hitting doesnt activate the 10 min timer, as you can clearly see by there only being 2-3 minutes between each hit. and as said before why suicide 4 accounts if you can actually just drain someone of bullets and then later go in for the kill.

KA in this version, At this point doesnt automaticly mean 60k shots are deaths, in the "perfect oppurtinity part II" war this could be seen very well where people where being hit with 60k by people in much higher overal positions and only losing 2 bgs their suits and around 50% health.
maybe this chances as we come closer to CDC and GF ranks who knows.
Anonymous (00:53:11 - 05-02)
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MurderInc at 00:27:28 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:18:52 on 05/02:
Whats wrong murderinc cant take anymore?

Your statements are contradicting very much so, and as someone state out below me. no "odds" where not added previous version when siberia was hitting with high attack to defence odds. no "odds" added when Tattaglia got hit by anarchy just before the vinci war. even though anarchy at that point had roughly 60+ lc+

And instead of actually going into this clear biased from reporters on this site "your shutting it down" but am glad you are cause now atleast your showing that all the shit you are getting ingame and here is founded. so thank you for that.

Oh and sure it is worth mentioning just like everything posted above and by others is also worth mentioning but your taking a discussion based around the ethics of which this site is using regarding reporting and taking it from the public domain into a private one, which is cool. but it shows that there is a measure of thruth to what is being said.

In the words of tyrrian lanister of game of thrones "silencing me doesnt prove me wrong, it only proves you have something to hide." and right now it seems there are things being said your rather not come out. if this wasnt true you wouldnt "thread" to use your powers as a moderator on this site to shut something down.

and as said in my previous posts it isnt about the outright numbers those are right. but as said "not everybody in the attacking families shot, so those numbres would be way lower if you factor that in" how nice of you to talk straight over that point being made.

In general people try to talk over points to which the have no defence and are true, so Murderinc stop hiding show some backbone and lets keep going shall we?
I updated this article to include the correct ratio hours ago. It is NEGATIVE for the attacking side. I'm on the defending side. How can you possibly use that as an argument for this site being biased?

If I wanted to shut anything down, I would have deleted all comments regarding this matter. I did not. I have no interest in this discussions and the reporters on this site don't have to accept every shit claim and be called names for everything they do here. We do this for free, for the community and there are reporters from all sides, all of which could add or edit anything that is biased or inaccurate. We do not decline any applications from new reporters based on the family they're in.

If you cannot understand that things can be both irrelevant when looked at in isolation and still worth including for the general picture, then I can't help you and suggest you go back to primary school.

I saw you updated the article am not talking about that.
also before i do continue with my point I will thank you and all reporters of this site for your work and time spend on it, am not saying you are in anyway biased in picking your reporters or anything. sad i have to state that out. also with some of the things i read here, i do admit you ALL take a lot of shit that is unfounded in anyway.

Now comming back to my orginal point however.


Vincitori is getting shot by a massive amount of families consisting of Rivera, Ferocia, Guardians, Republic, Siyahsancak and Lionsgate

It's worth noting the odds in this war are as follows:
Bruglione: 5:1 (just about)
Chief: 7,5:1
LC: 3:1

True that if you stack the numbers up like that it is a massive amount of over kill and alot of overkill or so it may seem. As i stated before not every brug chief and lc in the attacking fams shot as that would simple not be able and not just amount of possible shooters, but also actually amount of people able of being online and actually shooting. I do agree with you that it is for the reader to think about this for him or herself.

The reason however i started all these talks is that this is actually what you say to one of the posters on this site. and then in a next say "its quite an outliner cause of the high numbers" apperently forgetting what you said before that, Which was "but in most wars, not everyone is shooting everyone" and ill add not everyone is shooting. Again ill state its for the reader to ponder of this aswell.

The biased comes from the initial reports of the vinci war where the attacking side pretty much got dragged thru the mud, over these numbers, which where introduced only in that war, and where not seen in previous versions, where odds where just as staggering. as i said in my previous post and you compleetly ignore anarchy(60+lc+) VS Tattaglia(whitewalkers) which was a staggering overpowerment aswell did not show these numbers. ill admit they might not have been as high but cant be far off since whitewalkers right now have 19 lc+. This atleast creates a sense of some biasedness in reporting.

I can actually very well discern between what is relevant and what is not, and how to see things in perspective if i might say so myself, what i find to be lacking is you grasping the point, of my point being made.
And what i think is shamefull is that you in your last line resort once again to trying to "degrade" someone by saying they need to go back to kindergarten, and i personally believe you as a moderator of this site should set your self to a highers standard then that. or if you are speaking on personal note on the matter, atleast make it clear that you are doing exactly that.
Alot of forums where moderators partake in converstaion, and if they do so on personal note make that distinction and actually post that.
Anonymous (00:53:03 - 05-02)
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MurderInc at 00:50:23 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:45:31 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:30:51 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:27:34 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:21:03 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

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most likely taken from lina :490,014 (Backfire: 430,014)

and they are draining her of bullets, which makes waaaay more sense then hitting her with 60k and prolly suicide 5 accounts of her. But murderinc just got his ass handed to him in this topic and now is looking to trash talk someone else.
even though siberia would most likely do the same thing if roles where reversed.
so who the hell are you calling a noob. idiot?
Well, I have most certainly never seen anyone preshoot someone (even while online, for the last two!) with top accounts (Don, Top 3, 2 capos) without doing any damage. I don't think anyone else has either. It's quite cute.

Full villa protection, hometown top 10 overall rank/points.

Yeah sure shoot 60k then... why suicide if u got them overpowerd.

war is 1 vs 1
He was online for a total of 4 attempts now.

Yeah in his SH...
MurderInc Austria (00:50:23 - 05-02)
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Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0

Sssst Cheater since ...

most likely taken from lina :490,014 (Backfire: 430,014)

and they are draining her of bullets, which makes waaaay more sense then hitting her with 60k and prolly suicide 5 accounts of her. But murderinc just got his ass handed to him in this topic and now is looking to trash talk someone else.
even though siberia would most likely do the same thing if roles where reversed.
so who the hell are you calling a noob. idiot?
Well, I have most certainly never seen anyone preshoot someone (even while online, for the last two!) with top accounts (Don, Top 3, 2 capos) without doing any damage. I don't think anyone else has either. It's quite cute.

Full villa protection, hometown top 10 overall rank/points.

Yeah sure shoot 60k then... why suicide if u got them overpowerd.

war is 1 vs 1
He was online for a total of 4 attempts now.
Anonymous (00:45:31 - 05-02)
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MurderInc at 00:30:51 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:27:34 on 05/02:
Anonymous at 00:21:03 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0

Sssst Cheater since ...

most likely taken from lina :490,014 (Backfire: 430,014)

and they are draining her of bullets, which makes waaaay more sense then hitting her with 60k and prolly suicide 5 accounts of her. But murderinc just got his ass handed to him in this topic and now is looking to trash talk someone else.
even though siberia would most likely do the same thing if roles where reversed.
so who the hell are you calling a noob. idiot?
Well, I have most certainly never seen anyone preshoot someone (even while online, for the last two!) with top accounts (Don, Top 3, 2 capos) without doing any damage. I don't think anyone else has either. It's quite cute.

Full villa protection, hometown top 10 overall rank/points.

Yeah sure shoot 60k then... why suicide if u got them overpowerd.

war is 1 vs 1
Anonymous (00:41:21 - 05-02)
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MurderInc at 00:27:28 on 05/02:
We do this for free, for the community and there are reporters from all sides, all of which could add or edit anything that is biased or inaccurate. We do not decline any applications from new reporters based on the family they're in.

So much THIS!

This site adds a lot to the game and I think the people running it should be given a bit more recognition and a lot less flak for it.

Do I find that there's sometimes a bit of a pro-whatever-family slant in some of the articles? Sure. But would I actually want to do the reporter's job myself? Ugh, rather not; running around interviewing tops just to be a constant target for moaners.

The admins here have said multiple times they wouldn't mind new reporters, so: don't like how reporting is being done? Sign up and contribute to the reports in a constructive manner.
MurderInc Austria (00:30:51 - 05-02)
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Anonymous at 00:21:03 on 05/02:
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MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0

Sssst Cheater since ...

most likely taken from lina :490,014 (Backfire: 430,014)

and they are draining her of bullets, which makes waaaay more sense then hitting her with 60k and prolly suicide 5 accounts of her. But murderinc just got his ass handed to him in this topic and now is looking to trash talk someone else.
even though siberia would most likely do the same thing if roles where reversed.
so who the hell are you calling a noob. idiot?
Well, I have most certainly never seen anyone preshoot someone (even while online, for the last two!) with top accounts (Don, Top 3, 2 capos) without doing any damage. I don't think anyone else has either. It's quite cute.
Anonymous (00:27:34 - 05-02)
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Anonymous at 00:21:03 on 05/02:
Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
MurderInc at 00:13:21 on 05/02:
In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0

Sssst Cheater since ...

most likely taken from lina :490,014 (Backfire: 430,014)

and they are draining her of bullets, which makes waaaay more sense then hitting her with 60k and prolly suicide 5 accounts of her. But murderinc just got his ass handed to him in this topic and now is looking to trash talk someone else.
even though siberia would most likely do the same thing if roles where reversed.
so who the hell are you calling a noob. idiot?
MurderInc Austria (00:27:28 - 05-02)
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Whats wrong murderinc cant take anymore?

Your statements are contradicting very much so, and as someone state out below me. no "odds" where not added previous version when siberia was hitting with high attack to defence odds. no "odds" added when Tattaglia got hit by anarchy just before the vinci war. even though anarchy at that point had roughly 60+ lc+

And instead of actually going into this clear biased from reporters on this site "your shutting it down" but am glad you are cause now atleast your showing that all the shit you are getting ingame and here is founded. so thank you for that.

Oh and sure it is worth mentioning just like everything posted above and by others is also worth mentioning but your taking a discussion based around the ethics of which this site is using regarding reporting and taking it from the public domain into a private one, which is cool. but it shows that there is a measure of thruth to what is being said.

In the words of tyrrian lanister of game of thrones "silencing me doesnt prove me wrong, it only proves you have something to hide." and right now it seems there are things being said your rather not come out. if this wasnt true you wouldnt "thread" to use your powers as a moderator on this site to shut something down.

and as said in my previous posts it isnt about the outright numbers those are right. but as said "not everybody in the attacking families shot, so those numbres would be way lower if you factor that in" how nice of you to talk straight over that point being made.

In general people try to talk over points to which the have no defence and are true, so Murderinc stop hiding show some backbone and lets keep going shall we?
I updated this article to include the correct ratio hours ago. It is NEGATIVE for the attacking side. I'm on the defending side. How can you possibly use that as an argument for this site being biased?

If I wanted to shut anything down, I would have deleted all comments regarding this matter. I did not. I have no interest in this discussions and the reporters on this site don't have to accept every shit claim and be called names for everything they do here. We do this for free, for the community and there are reporters from all sides, all of which could add or edit anything that is biased or inaccurate. We do not decline any applications from new reporters based on the family they're in.

If you cannot understand that things can be both irrelevant when looked at in isolation and still worth including for the general picture, then I can't help you and suggest you go back to primary school.
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You might as well remove that odds statistic now the counter has begun.


Nope tjey will never do it cause all the reporters here belongs to gayberia any they want :) they are allways right :P

so you dont thik the initial attack is worth to mention in such a article ?? whom ever you are..
i think it has a very valid reason to be there


I don't think the ratio of the initial attack is important as most warplans do keep a counter of the bloods in mind. An update of this would give a way better view of what's going on in such war. The initial numbers would only confuse people and would only seem like an excuse in case you lose a war.

The odds were uprdated by soomeone though so that's cool.
Just looking at odds alone generally doesn't paint a complete picture of any war, even with all counters accounted for. It's a useful measure, but in most wars, not everyone is shooting everyone, and the individual ratios of fights between families involved can differ quite significantly from the overall ratio. It's also a lot of effort to keep track off, so we generally don't do that.

Yet you (OB writers) add them and only started doing it in the vinci war

* starts to wonder about that

That war was quite the outlier in that it was 6v1 with a 5:1 brug and 7.5:1 chief ratio. We also include deaths per family and deaths on the attacking and defending side. Those numbers aren't worth anything in isolation either, and we still include them. What's your issue? Use your brain while interpreting them and stop complaining about non-issues, or just don't read this site.

if you take into account what you just said "odds alone generally doesn't paint a complete picture of any war". its kinda funny your comeback is now that the odds where so huge that it was worth a mention. following that logic this war shouldnt show odds at all cause it isnt an "outliner" in the odds of the highranks way.

as you quite clearly stated "not all the members shoot" so then calling a 5:1 and 7.5:1 odd on that war really doesnt apply anymore as not every brug and chief in those fams prolly shot making those odds drop down way more, the just the number of high ranks in a fam.

so my point is consistency from your (personal) part in your replies as at one point you state that odds alone arent rly a figure to look upon just on its own, and then use an example from a previous war to state exactly the opposite of what you said.

as regarding to your mention of highranks dying those in general tell you alot more then just the number of deaths spread of the ranks. and give a nice overview in general of the dmg done to a family in the example above (having followed the war real time) you can quite clearly see by the number of deaths that empusa did not so much dmg to either siberia, as the countering fams did to empusa. in numbers of high ranks killed.
Seriously, these discussions are pointless. None of you morons should be surprised when no one bothers to write or update articles with all the useless complaints you throw at reporters.

My statements aren't contradicting each other: The war was an outlier, and any measure in isolation is not meaningful. That doesn't mean it's not worth mentioning, as long as the numbers are accurate (which they are to our knowledge). The interpretation is up to the reader.

I'm ending this discussion, if you have any issue with the accuracy of any numbers contact a reporter directly. Further comments will be deleted.

Whats wrong murderinc cant take anymore?

Your statements are contradicting very much so, and as someone state out below me. no "odds" where not added previous version when siberia was hitting with high attack to defence odds. no "odds" added when Tattaglia got hit by anarchy just before the vinci war. even though anarchy at that point had roughly 60+ lc+

And instead of actually going into this clear biased from reporters on this site "your shutting it down" but am glad you are cause now atleast your showing that all the shit you are getting ingame and here is founded. so thank you for that.

Oh and sure it is worth mentioning just like everything posted above and by others is also worth mentioning but your taking a discussion based around the ethics of which this site is using regarding reporting and taking it from the public domain into a private one, which is cool. but it shows that there is a measure of thruth to what is being said.

In the words of tyrrian lanister of game of thrones "silencing me doesnt prove me wrong, it only proves you have something to hide." and right now it seems there are things being said your rather not come out. if this wasnt true you wouldnt "thread" to use your powers as a moderator on this site to shut something down.

and as said in my previous posts it isnt about the outright numbers those are right. but as said "not everybody in the attacking families shot, so those numbres would be way lower if you factor that in" how nice of you to talk straight over that point being made.

In general people try to talk over points to which the have no defence and are true, so Murderinc stop hiding show some backbone and lets keep going shall we?

Yeah if this page bothers you that much you should perhaps stop reading it.
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Snooker at 00:19:22 on 05/02:
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In other news, Gambino education:

Daryl 05-Feb @ 00:08:31 Daryl totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Daryl
Maryjane 05-Feb @ 00:06:28 Maryjane totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Maryjane
Mu 05-Feb @ 00:00:17 Mu totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Mu
Glitterfart 04-Feb @ 23:57:05 Glitterfart totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Glitterfart
Shine 04-Feb @ 23:50:33 Shine totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Shine
Icecold 04-Feb @ 23:41:34 Icecold totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Icecold
Parcival 04-Feb @ 23:31:15 Parcival totally missed you, you hit back and did some damage to Parcival

That's how you use your don, top 3 and capos!

Noobs since v1.0

Sssst Cheater since ...