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01-07 Down before the end
Author: mmm
Last updated: 3453d 13h 56m 25s ago by mmm
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Version: 4.7.5
Involved families: Marazzino
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The don of Marazzino ended up being a-killed, thus bringing the #1 family down nearing the end of the version.

Will this give the win to Siberia after all? Stayyyy tunedd!
statistics
War started on: 08:41:02 01-07-2015 War ended on: 08:48:03 01-07-2015
Bullet difference: -1,242,954 War duration: 7m
Money difference: -$509,349,820 Players died: 3




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Dead Families:
[Marazzino] Family down on 08:41 01-07
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Marazzino | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 68
Total | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 68
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thisisfaith Belgium (15:04:37 - 02-07)
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Solstice at 07:17:18 on 02/07:
thisisfaith at 03:51:59 on 02/07:
fact is : A-kills are usually not made without FIRST HAND proof,
rumours and hear say are dismissed cuz thats not proving anything.
i know this cuz i had proof of someone using TV + script ( his TV-buddy gave me a fantastic print screen in the hope i would use it to my advantage ( thx btw :D ),and the evil bastard that i am...i took it to Admins H) ) it resulted in a thank u but we cant do anything about TV but we will try and bust that script ( that took some versions tho >.< )

0.01% of the time there are A-kills that shouldnt happen and what happens then?
right : revive.
if u went to Admins and didnt get revive it means they found out u cheat somehow,all the whining and crying in the world isnt gonna help u with that.
it's a game and if u need to cheat to feel special...well u are kind of special ( in a different kind of way xD )

u f*cked up,u got f*cked,now f*cking move on.

i'm no Siberia-lovah but the comments about bribing and all that shit made me LMAO,

there's only 1 thing better than to see cheaters get pwnd and thats to see them flame/blame/cry/point fingers so thank u OBN for making my morning extra special *\o/*

ps : i still think Admins should do their job at the start instead of the end,all those accounts killed by cheaters or killed by cheating sponsors...thats another very sad part of the game.
however,if they start at the start,.com wil be like other servers and die off,fact is bara needs cheating,sell dc's,and act when they see it's almost over.( or when dc-buying starts to slack )
thats the sad truth.


You stating you got someone akilled does in no way proof all akills made are legit. We've seen over the past versions that admins continually change the rules while you are playing.


thats just it,i didnt have him A-killed even tho i had a printscreen he used a script ( not a log,an actual print of his bara-page.
that wasnt enough proof ( in admins eyes )
not all A-kills are legit i'm sure of that,human error accurs even with admins i guess xD
but most are revived when it has been proven that A-kill wasnt in order.
MurderInc Austria (14:56:23 - 02-07)
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Anonymous at 14:48:18 on 02/07:
MurderInc at 14:24:22 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 13:58:30 on 02/07:
Well I do want to believe you Ari (and i'm not even from Maraz), but isn't it possible that something went wrong when using teamviewer? that someone from Turkey just logged in on your account without teamviewer or something went wrong while using teamviewer. If you are really on another continent, i can't really think of anything else besides teamviewer going wrong or being hacked to create the same IP where both Lenny and Panda were logged in.
That's not possible from a technical POV, unless you also shared your login credentials and accidentally typed those in your local browser instead of through TeamViewer. TeamViewer can't "leak" data to a site like Omerta due to the way it works.

I don't think the crew claimed they shared IP addresses either.

Fact is, yes, it's not possible have 100% proof for TV usage. To me it seems they're simply going for the same standard they've started applying to funding: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Then again, I wouldn't put any money on the crew always being able to identify ducks, so yeah, those akills should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially since without any technical proof, the difference between two people ranking together (synced GC times etc.) and two people using TV is rather hard to detect.

Sadly, I think the only way to handle this on the player side is to literally go out of your way and prevent doing anything suspicious (i.e., do group crimes with random players on IRC, etc.) - and of course that's pretty crazy.

I do wonder what the community would think about legalizing sharing in some way.

Legalizing sharing is a bad idea, the fact admins can't detect teamviewer doesn't mean it isn't cheating. Someone else is on your account doing a groupcrime for you or warring for you or doing something else etc..It's cheating. It's your own account only 1 people should play on it. If you can't be online during the night then you can't do a heist simple as that.
What is considered cheating and what is part of the game is something that should be re-evaluated regularly, and if there's a way to make sharing part of the game in a smart way that improves the gameplay and prevents stuff like this from happening, I think it should at least be considered.

After all, Lackeys are part of the game too.
Anonymous (14:48:18 - 02-07)
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MurderInc at 14:24:22 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 13:58:30 on 02/07:
Well I do want to believe you Ari (and i'm not even from Maraz), but isn't it possible that something went wrong when using teamviewer? that someone from Turkey just logged in on your account without teamviewer or something went wrong while using teamviewer. If you are really on another continent, i can't really think of anything else besides teamviewer going wrong or being hacked to create the same IP where both Lenny and Panda were logged in.
That's not possible from a technical POV, unless you also shared your login credentials and accidentally typed those in your local browser instead of through TeamViewer. TeamViewer can't "leak" data to a site like Omerta due to the way it works.

I don't think the crew claimed they shared IP addresses either.

Fact is, yes, it's not possible have 100% proof for TV usage. To me it seems they're simply going for the same standard they've started applying to funding: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Then again, I wouldn't put any money on the crew always being able to identify ducks, so yeah, those akills should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially since without any technical proof, the difference between two people ranking together (synced GC times etc.) and two people using TV is rather hard to detect.

Sadly, I think the only way to handle this on the player side is to literally go out of your way and prevent doing anything suspicious (i.e., do group crimes with random players on IRC, etc.) - and of course that's pretty crazy.

I do wonder what the community would think about legalizing sharing in some way.

Legalizing sharing is a bad idea, the fact admins can't detect teamviewer doesn't mean it isn't cheating. Someone else is on your account doing a groupcrime for you or warring for you or doing something else etc..It's cheating. It's your own account only 1 people should play on it. If you can't be online during the night then you can't do a heist simple as that.
Bigpapa Liberia (14:35:10 - 02-07)
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Johnx at 11:32:38 on 02/07:
gode at 11:16:57 on 02/07:
there are 2 facts in this subject :

1. Siberia will win 2nd version when the winner fam is akilled @last week of version.

2. regular heist/raid is very very important after chief. As GF/FL doesnt have any problem with NB lackeys (no jailtime)

1. Siberia was against it's own sisfam(the first occasion you are refering to), what an accomplishment.

2. GF/FL's lackeys still go to jail

1. How well was that relationship by then? :P

2. Is that true? Last time I hired lackeys @ GF, my busting lackey did nothing at all.
MurderInc Austria (14:24:22 - 02-07)
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Anonymous at 13:58:30 on 02/07:
Well I do want to believe you Ari (and i'm not even from Maraz), but isn't it possible that something went wrong when using teamviewer? that someone from Turkey just logged in on your account without teamviewer or something went wrong while using teamviewer. If you are really on another continent, i can't really think of anything else besides teamviewer going wrong or being hacked to create the same IP where both Lenny and Panda were logged in.
That's not possible from a technical POV, unless you also shared your login credentials and accidentally typed those in your local browser instead of through TeamViewer. TeamViewer can't "leak" data to a site like Omerta due to the way it works.

I don't think the crew claimed they shared IP addresses either.

Fact is, yes, it's not possible have 100% proof for TV usage. To me it seems they're simply going for the same standard they've started applying to funding: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Then again, I wouldn't put any money on the crew always being able to identify ducks, so yeah, those akills should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially since without any technical proof, the difference between two people ranking together (synced GC times etc.) and two people using TV is rather hard to detect.

Sadly, I think the only way to handle this on the player side is to literally go out of your way and prevent doing anything suspicious (i.e., do group crimes with random players on IRC, etc.) - and of course that's pretty crazy.

I do wonder what the community would think about legalizing sharing in some way.
Anonymous (14:17:53 - 02-07)
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gode at 11:16:57 on 02/07:
there are 2 facts in this subject :

1. Siberia will win 2nd version when the winner fam is akilled @last week of version.

2. regular heist/raid is very very important after chief. As GF/FL doesnt have any problem with NB lackeys (no jailtime) its the major option you can make RP difference. so the following routine is used by ranking couples :
- Log in
- Do heist/raid
- Check stats page/fampage/beyond if everything is ok
- Log out

even i'm not a hard-ranker i used that method with bjack/house last version. it really makes difference

as you can imagine its very hard to distinguish if those actions are made by 2 person or 1 person using TeamViewer (TV). Maybe those 2 rankers use TV periodically, 1 week one of them makes heist/raids, other week the other.

in Ari/Cnwr combo, with the fact that they are in different time-zones, its very logical that they can use TV, as we all know when around 3-6 am in Turkey its evening for USA.

But is this a proof? No. Maybe they were putting alarms and wake up to rank. Its obvious they have similar online times in wartime, even i'm working 8-17 @regular job i stay very long times online at wartimes. as they are more addicted players, they were online similar times in war situation obviously

Summary : Even if its logical that they can use TV, you cant akill those top accounts by just checking online times

Sidenot : Ogame.tr top crew (bramblerose of ogame) was kicked out of management for continous corruption and earning cash from those corruptions. So why not in omerta? When i compare those 2 games, omerta is far more corrupted by any means. That last minute akills on winning fam is too fishy
+ agree
Anonymous (13:58:30 - 02-07)
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Well I do want to believe you Ari (and i'm not even from Maraz), but isn't it possible that something went wrong when using teamviewer? that someone from Turkey just logged in on your account without teamviewer or something went wrong while using teamviewer. If you are really on another continent, i can't really think of anything else besides teamviewer going wrong or being hacked to create the same IP where both Lenny and Panda were logged in.
darklazytologin (13:56:43 - 02-07)
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Anonymous at 10:42:09 on 02/07:
darklazytologin at 10:15:55 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 10:01:55 on 02/07:
darklazytologin at 09:55:50 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 05:19:11 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 04:53:21 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 21:57:49 on 01/07:
~Delidivane
Marazzino is a family who exists for like 27 years.we believe that we got the most oldand most experienced players in our fam.we Marazzino, want to make some things clear.in the past we also had some difficulties.This version we believe that ^again^ sone admins didn't want to see us #1.Our thole top3 got akilled and we lost our position.Everyone should know that we don't and never did cheat.we don't know in what kinda imagination the admins live and keeps giving us the akills each versiyon.You spend so much team in this game, wake up each night for heists/raids and the admins take that away with just one button.That doesn't even sound riht does it... we the Marazzino crew refuse to play againts this injustice and wish you all the best in real life.

So never cheated in the 27 years this game existed?

Maybe you didn't cheat before this game existed 27 years ago.
We all know you guys are at least dupers.
i am a maraz and i never had a dupe. that means i am also duper?
there are dupers in all families. some are members some are tops so you cant blame whole fam as duper.


Ari canim kardesim why u put my ass in this convo. I have nothing to do with this subject. Neither i said something about this. I remember cnwr's account didnt die for once but in the past as well. To be honest i am sadest person because of ur retirement because i was returning for Marazzino to put that words in ur mouth after vizzini died. In short case, everyone is almost cheating or have cheaters in their families. If admins catch it they have to punish rightaway. If u cheat or not ( actually we both know the truth :)) its not my business. We can speak that in pm. I have to say dont put my ass in this subject because i know the reality. My ass is even cleaner than ur mouth basterd. I saw the logs of u and what u tried to do ur blood while u were saying u didnt sell any blood in ur entire time. But i like to speak those stuffs in pms because doesnt wanna hurt u :) with my words. And do not give empty inkills in ur fam next time knk :) enjoy ur retirement. XoXo


wrong quote you fucking dirty asshole am-archism

It is not wrong u idiot fag i am just lazy to find as u see even lazy to login. Now u can fuckoff
lol you just noticed that you wrote on wrong quote you faggot am-arcist mofo :) you have no idea what is going on about your dirty ass. gotunden haberin yok kivirmaya calisiyosun amk malagi :)

Kisi herkesi kendi gibi bilirmis orospu cocugu canum evladim
Anonymous (13:43:42 - 02-07)
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gode at 11:43:47 on 02/07:
Johnx at 11:32:38 on 02/07:
gode at 11:16:57 on 02/07:
there are 2 facts in this subject :

1. Siberia will win 2nd version when the winner fam is akilled @last week of version.

2. regular heist/raid is very very important after chief. As GF/FL doesnt have any problem with NB lackeys (no jailtime)

1. Siberia was against it's own sisfam(the first occasion you are refering to), what an accomplishment.

2. GF/FL's lackeys still go to jail

my bad, i was GF long long time ago

still my facts are right on coming online for heist/raid & war stuff


Think he meant the version where Caragena got akilled and Persico got shit on by admins coz of it, and Siberia won vers by default.
Caesar Israel (12:29:51 - 02-07)
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Hi
gode Turkey (11:43:47 - 02-07)
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Johnx at 11:32:38 on 02/07:
gode at 11:16:57 on 02/07:
there are 2 facts in this subject :

1. Siberia will win 2nd version when the winner fam is akilled @last week of version.

2. regular heist/raid is very very important after chief. As GF/FL doesnt have any problem with NB lackeys (no jailtime)

1. Siberia was against it's own sisfam(the first occasion you are refering to), what an accomplishment.

2. GF/FL's lackeys still go to jail

my bad, i was GF long long time ago

still my facts are right on coming online for heist/raid & war stuff

Critycal Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Patron (11:37:51 - 02-07)
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gode at 11:16:57 on 02/07:
there are 2 facts in this subject :

1. Siberia will win 2nd version when the winner fam is akilled @last week of version.

2. regular heist/raid is very very important after chief. As GF/FL doesnt have any problem with NB lackeys (no jailtime) its the major option you can make RP difference. so the following routine is used by ranking couples :
- Log in
- Do heist/raid
- Check stats page/fampage/beyond if everything is ok
- Log out

even i'm not a hard-ranker i used that method with bjack/house last version. it really makes difference

as you can imagine its very hard to distinguish if those actions are made by 2 person or 1 person using TeamViewer (TV). Maybe those 2 rankers use TV periodically, 1 week one of them makes heist/raids, other week the other.

in Ari/Cnwr combo, with the fact that they are in different time-zones, its very logical that they can use TV, as we all know when around 3-6 am in Turkey its evening for USA.

But is this a proof? No. Maybe they were putting alarms and wake up to rank. Its obvious they have similar online times in wartime, even i'm working 8-17 @regular job i stay very long times online at wartimes. as they are more addicted players, they were online similar times in war situation obviously

Summary : Even if its logical that they can use TV, you cant akill those top accounts by just checking online times

Sidenot : Ogame.tr top crew (bramblerose of ogame) was kicked out of management for continous corruption and earning cash from those corruptions. So why not in omerta? When i compare those 2 games, omerta is far more corrupted by any means. That last minute akills on winning fam is too fishy
sigh.
Johnx Denmark (11:32:38 - 02-07)
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gode at 11:16:57 on 02/07:
there are 2 facts in this subject :

1. Siberia will win 2nd version when the winner fam is akilled @last week of version.

2. regular heist/raid is very very important after chief. As GF/FL doesnt have any problem with NB lackeys (no jailtime)

1. Siberia was against it's own sisfam(the first occasion you are refering to), what an accomplishment.

2. GF/FL's lackeys still go to jail
gode Turkey (11:16:57 - 02-07)
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there are 2 facts in this subject :

1. Siberia will win 2nd version when the winner fam is akilled @last week of version.

2. regular heist/raid is very very important after chief. As GF/FL doesnt have any problem with NB lackeys (no jailtime) its the major option you can make RP difference. so the following routine is used by ranking couples :
- Log in
- Do heist/raid
- Check stats page/fampage/beyond if everything is ok
- Log out

even i'm not a hard-ranker i used that method with bjack/house last version. it really makes difference

as you can imagine its very hard to distinguish if those actions are made by 2 person or 1 person using TeamViewer (TV). Maybe those 2 rankers use TV periodically, 1 week one of them makes heist/raids, other week the other.

in Ari/Cnwr combo, with the fact that they are in different time-zones, its very logical that they can use TV, as we all know when around 3-6 am in Turkey its evening for USA.

But is this a proof? No. Maybe they were putting alarms and wake up to rank. Its obvious they have similar online times in wartime, even i'm working 8-17 @regular job i stay very long times online at wartimes. as they are more addicted players, they were online similar times in war situation obviously

Summary : Even if its logical that they can use TV, you cant akill those top accounts by just checking online times

Sidenot : Ogame.tr top crew (bramblerose of ogame) was kicked out of management for continous corruption and earning cash from those corruptions. So why not in omerta? When i compare those 2 games, omerta is far more corrupted by any means. That last minute akills on winning fam is too fishy
Anonymous (10:42:09 - 02-07)
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darklazytologin at 10:15:55 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 10:01:55 on 02/07:
darklazytologin at 09:55:50 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 05:19:11 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 04:53:21 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 21:57:49 on 01/07:
~Delidivane
Marazzino is a family who exists for like 27 years.we believe that we got the most oldand most experienced players in our fam.we Marazzino, want to make some things clear.in the past we also had some difficulties.This version we believe that ^again^ sone admins didn't want to see us #1.Our thole top3 got akilled and we lost our position.Everyone should know that we don't and never did cheat.we don't know in what kinda imagination the admins live and keeps giving us the akills each versiyon.You spend so much team in this game, wake up each night for heists/raids and the admins take that away with just one button.That doesn't even sound riht does it... we the Marazzino crew refuse to play againts this injustice and wish you all the best in real life.

So never cheated in the 27 years this game existed?

Maybe you didn't cheat before this game existed 27 years ago.
We all know you guys are at least dupers.
i am a maraz and i never had a dupe. that means i am also duper?
there are dupers in all families. some are members some are tops so you cant blame whole fam as duper.


Ari canim kardesim why u put my ass in this convo. I have nothing to do with this subject. Neither i said something about this. I remember cnwr's account didnt die for once but in the past as well. To be honest i am sadest person because of ur retirement because i was returning for Marazzino to put that words in ur mouth after vizzini died. In short case, everyone is almost cheating or have cheaters in their families. If admins catch it they have to punish rightaway. If u cheat or not ( actually we both know the truth :)) its not my business. We can speak that in pm. I have to say dont put my ass in this subject because i know the reality. My ass is even cleaner than ur mouth basterd. I saw the logs of u and what u tried to do ur blood while u were saying u didnt sell any blood in ur entire time. But i like to speak those stuffs in pms because doesnt wanna hurt u :) with my words. And do not give empty inkills in ur fam next time knk :) enjoy ur retirement. XoXo


wrong quote you fucking dirty asshole am-archism

It is not wrong u idiot fag i am just lazy to find as u see even lazy to login. Now u can fuckoff
lol you just noticed that you wrote on wrong quote you faggot am-arcist mofo :) you have no idea what is going on about your dirty ass. gotunden haberin yok kivirmaya calisiyosun amk malagi :)
Agon (10:28:54 - 02-07)
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hehehe I dont like ittttttttt
darklazytologin (10:15:55 - 02-07)
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Anonymous at 10:01:55 on 02/07:
darklazytologin at 09:55:50 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 05:19:11 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 04:53:21 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 21:57:49 on 01/07:
~Delidivane
Marazzino is a family who exists for like 27 years.we believe that we got the most oldand most experienced players in our fam.we Marazzino, want to make some things clear.in the past we also had some difficulties.This version we believe that ^again^ sone admins didn't want to see us #1.Our thole top3 got akilled and we lost our position.Everyone should know that we don't and never did cheat.we don't know in what kinda imagination the admins live and keeps giving us the akills each versiyon.You spend so much team in this game, wake up each night for heists/raids and the admins take that away with just one button.That doesn't even sound riht does it... we the Marazzino crew refuse to play againts this injustice and wish you all the best in real life.

So never cheated in the 27 years this game existed?

Maybe you didn't cheat before this game existed 27 years ago.
We all know you guys are at least dupers.
i am a maraz and i never had a dupe. that means i am also duper?
there are dupers in all families. some are members some are tops so you cant blame whole fam as duper.


Ari canim kardesim why u put my ass in this convo. I have nothing to do with this subject. Neither i said something about this. I remember cnwr's account didnt die for once but in the past as well. To be honest i am sadest person because of ur retirement because i was returning for Marazzino to put that words in ur mouth after vizzini died. In short case, everyone is almost cheating or have cheaters in their families. If admins catch it they have to punish rightaway. If u cheat or not ( actually we both know the truth :)) its not my business. We can speak that in pm. I have to say dont put my ass in this subject because i know the reality. My ass is even cleaner than ur mouth basterd. I saw the logs of u and what u tried to do ur blood while u were saying u didnt sell any blood in ur entire time. But i like to speak those stuffs in pms because doesnt wanna hurt u :) with my words. And do not give empty inkills in ur fam next time knk :) enjoy ur retirement. XoXo


wrong quote you fucking dirty asshole am-archism

It is not wrong u idiot fag i am just lazy to find as u see even lazy to login. Now u can fuckoff
Anonymous (10:01:55 - 02-07)
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darklazytologin at 09:55:50 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 05:19:11 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 04:53:21 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 21:57:49 on 01/07:
~Delidivane
Marazzino is a family who exists for like 27 years.we believe that we got the most oldand most experienced players in our fam.we Marazzino, want to make some things clear.in the past we also had some difficulties.This version we believe that ^again^ sone admins didn't want to see us #1.Our thole top3 got akilled and we lost our position.Everyone should know that we don't and never did cheat.we don't know in what kinda imagination the admins live and keeps giving us the akills each versiyon.You spend so much team in this game, wake up each night for heists/raids and the admins take that away with just one button.That doesn't even sound riht does it... we the Marazzino crew refuse to play againts this injustice and wish you all the best in real life.

So never cheated in the 27 years this game existed?

Maybe you didn't cheat before this game existed 27 years ago.
We all know you guys are at least dupers.
i am a maraz and i never had a dupe. that means i am also duper?
there are dupers in all families. some are members some are tops so you cant blame whole fam as duper.


Ari canim kardesim why u put my ass in this convo. I have nothing to do with this subject. Neither i said something about this. I remember cnwr's account didnt die for once but in the past as well. To be honest i am sadest person because of ur retirement because i was returning for Marazzino to put that words in ur mouth after vizzini died. In short case, everyone is almost cheating or have cheaters in their families. If admins catch it they have to punish rightaway. If u cheat or not ( actually we both know the truth :)) its not my business. We can speak that in pm. I have to say dont put my ass in this subject because i know the reality. My ass is even cleaner than ur mouth basterd. I saw the logs of u and what u tried to do ur blood while u were saying u didnt sell any blood in ur entire time. But i like to speak those stuffs in pms because doesnt wanna hurt u :) with my words. And do not give empty inkills in ur fam next time knk :) enjoy ur retirement. XoXo


wrong quote you fucking dirty asshole am-archism
darklazytologin (09:55:50 - 02-07)
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Anonymous at 05:19:11 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 04:53:21 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 21:57:49 on 01/07:
~Delidivane
Marazzino is a family who exists for like 27 years.we believe that we got the most oldand most experienced players in our fam.we Marazzino, want to make some things clear.in the past we also had some difficulties.This version we believe that ^again^ sone admins didn't want to see us #1.Our thole top3 got akilled and we lost our position.Everyone should know that we don't and never did cheat.we don't know in what kinda imagination the admins live and keeps giving us the akills each versiyon.You spend so much team in this game, wake up each night for heists/raids and the admins take that away with just one button.That doesn't even sound riht does it... we the Marazzino crew refuse to play againts this injustice and wish you all the best in real life.

So never cheated in the 27 years this game existed?

Maybe you didn't cheat before this game existed 27 years ago.
We all know you guys are at least dupers.
i am a maraz and i never had a dupe. that means i am also duper?
there are dupers in all families. some are members some are tops so you cant blame whole fam as duper.


Ari canim kardesim why u put my ass in this convo. I have nothing to do with this subject. Neither i said something about this. I remember cnwr's account didnt die for once but in the past as well. To be honest i am sadest person because of ur retirement because i was returning for Marazzino to put that words in ur mouth after vizzini died. In short case, everyone is almost cheating or have cheaters in their families. If admins catch it they have to punish rightaway. If u cheat or not ( actually we both know the truth :)) its not my business. We can speak that in pm. I have to say dont put my ass in this subject because i know the reality. My ass is even cleaner than ur mouth basterd. I saw the logs of u and what u tried to do ur blood while u were saying u didnt sell any blood in ur entire time. But i like to speak those stuffs in pms because doesnt wanna hurt u :) with my words. And do not give empty inkills in ur fam next time knk :) enjoy ur retirement. XoXo


SayWhoOt Portugal (09:05:06 - 02-07)
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