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01-07 Down before the end
Author: mmm
Last updated: 3222d 23h 7m 29s ago by mmm
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Version: 4.7.5
Involved families: Marazzino
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The don of Marazzino ended up being a-killed, thus bringing the #1 family down nearing the end of the version.

Will this give the win to Siberia after all? Stayyyy tunedd!
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War started on: 08:41:02 01-07-2015 War ended on: 08:48:03 01-07-2015
Bullet difference: -1,242,954 War duration: 7m
Money difference: -$509,349,820 Players died: 3




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Dead Families:
[Marazzino] Family down on 08:41 01-07
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Marazzino | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 68
Total | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 68
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Anonymous (12:06:31 - 03-07)
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Anonymous at 10:21:18 on 03/07:
YOU MAD?!

Looks like marazzino learned how to "build MACHINES"!!!!!!


you mean sex machine ? yeah we are all sex machine, cikarmadan bes is our motto :p
Anonymous (10:59:07 - 03-07)
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gode at 10:40:13 on 03/07:
Anonymous at 08:50:04 on 03/07:
They should remove the Hall of Fame, that would make people push themselves less to the limit. U can't even compete properly without swapping/scripting/teamviewer/duping nowadays. Even selling DC's is getting risky.

We all know crew is to blame for being inconsequent and having a lack of authority, but we as players are all to blame even more and we know it. Just play the game and accept the limits. Why bother to even give crew a small reason to akill you? Leave cheating and play, idealistic and impossible for sure. People are so greedy for a yellow star to put on their Curriculum Vitae.

well HOF is important motivator but i believe there are more factors to push the limit

as an example i was regular player around 3.x versions. shooting and dieing, sometimes making progress (like being GF etc) sometimes die as simple chief/brug

when i got shot multiple times by mass-duper jannissary boss (we knew he was mass-duping cuz i was in their warchannel for 2 versions spying around, they werent even asking what is my ingame, and that lamer was shooting with his dupes and pasting it to chan, calling he "shot from xxx account" etc.) i said enough. there are always some money spenders like fenrir/cracka/red etc. but when you see some cheater shooting you down multiple times, there are 2 ways. 1 you quit, 2 you find some way to overachieve. yeah most of my friends quit cuz they just didnt have motivation/ability to overachieve.

i had a post about how this game should be designed, i still think there should be such solution


bigger problem is : this game runs on real money and duping/cheating.

if you want good accounts, you should pay 100 to 1000 dollars (yea i know a top account paying 1k in a version) or cheat in some way (duping, funding, bug abusing etc.)

there is a slight chance that you can build a good account without that 2 options. maybe some lottery/poker luck, or using fam objects all for yourself, but those options are limited to %1 of playerbase

thats simply a money trap, yes paid money can give you a slight advantage in online gaming, but when this advantage plays big role in that online game, that is not acceptable

this game should be rebuild on a ranking/collecting system that favors good tacticians and good rankers. else it will stay same shit with a playerbase consisting 300 players max, noone will come back to be smashed by somebody rich or cheating
You are an idiot and talking too much. This is annoying people !
gode Turkey (10:40:13 - 03-07)
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Anonymous at 08:50:04 on 03/07:
They should remove the Hall of Fame, that would make people push themselves less to the limit. U can't even compete properly without swapping/scripting/teamviewer/duping nowadays. Even selling DC's is getting risky.

We all know crew is to blame for being inconsequent and having a lack of authority, but we as players are all to blame even more and we know it. Just play the game and accept the limits. Why bother to even give crew a small reason to akill you? Leave cheating and play, idealistic and impossible for sure. People are so greedy for a yellow star to put on their Curriculum Vitae.

well HOF is important motivator but i believe there are more factors to push the limit

as an example i was regular player around 3.x versions. shooting and dieing, sometimes making progress (like being GF etc) sometimes die as simple chief/brug

when i got shot multiple times by mass-duper jannissary boss (we knew he was mass-duping cuz i was in their warchannel for 2 versions spying around, they werent even asking what is my ingame, and that lamer was shooting with his dupes and pasting it to chan, calling he "shot from xxx account" etc.) i said enough. there are always some money spenders like fenrir/cracka/red etc. but when you see some cheater shooting you down multiple times, there are 2 ways. 1 you quit, 2 you find some way to overachieve. yeah most of my friends quit cuz they just didnt have motivation/ability to overachieve.

i had a post about how this game should be designed, i still think there should be such solution


bigger problem is : this game runs on real money and duping/cheating.

if you want good accounts, you should pay 100 to 1000 dollars (yea i know a top account paying 1k in a version) or cheat in some way (duping, funding, bug abusing etc.)

there is a slight chance that you can build a good account without that 2 options. maybe some lottery/poker luck, or using fam objects all for yourself, but those options are limited to %1 of playerbase

thats simply a money trap, yes paid money can give you a slight advantage in online gaming, but when this advantage plays big role in that online game, that is not acceptable

this game should be rebuild on a ranking/collecting system that favors good tacticians and good rankers. else it will stay same shit with a playerbase consisting 300 players max, noone will come back to be smashed by somebody rich or cheating
Anonymous (10:27:10 - 03-07)
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gode at 10:24:16 on 03/07:
Anonymous at 08:25:21 on 03/07:
@Gode: " ffs some idiots write here "if they announce it then everyone will know how they catch it" fucking idiots nobody telling that admins should post something like "we catch you with this method bla bla", we just need a post from bramble stating "Lately some akills occured cuz we caught them using remote desktop software. Be aware that using that kind of trick will be counted as bug abuse bla bla" "

are u moron? why the fuck they need an explanation for TV?

sharing is sharing, TV or SAME HOUSE...
and i think CNWR and ARI were the husband and wife, and MAD was the son.. or maybe MAD was the 2nd guy in 3some..
as i said before; NO NEED ANY EXPLANATION for Sharing reason. but they need to change this fucking 72h rule about reviving.. at least they should create a VOTD about it.. cause if WE play this game then WE should decide about it..
and one more thing about akills(not just those ones); they should BAN all ip/email/irc nick if they got akilled (once or at least twice).. and if a player gets akill then no chance for a STAR forever. (ofc removing star is the alternative way for it).
regards

if you kill top accounts of winning family @last week, it deserves an explanation. and if they think its VPN or TV usage (no other then that 2 reasons can be valid for such an idiot akill) yes it would be good post explaning it CAN BE CATCHED to prevent further attempts/akills. most ppl think that its safe, do not think only those 3 accounts could have used it.

"ban IP"? what a fucking moron you are, nobody use static IP, you connect your account from your workplace etc. how you can ban IP? even you connect from your home all time, you dont have same IP if you didnt apply for static IP (which is useless if you dont run something like virtual server). if you try to ban such IP you would end fucking up some other ppl more then that cheater.

"ban email", "ban irc nick"? did you ever tried to get a new one? it takes 1min with gmail.

yeah i did reply to an idiot that has such solutions like "ban IP"/ "ban email", idiocracy is not a new thing @omerta playground

And if you need new IPs, you always call lusa, they have a bouch of them
gode Turkey (10:24:16 - 03-07)
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Anonymous at 08:25:21 on 03/07:
@Gode: " ffs some idiots write here "if they announce it then everyone will know how they catch it" fucking idiots nobody telling that admins should post something like "we catch you with this method bla bla", we just need a post from bramble stating "Lately some akills occured cuz we caught them using remote desktop software. Be aware that using that kind of trick will be counted as bug abuse bla bla" "

are u moron? why the fuck they need an explanation for TV?

sharing is sharing, TV or SAME HOUSE...
and i think CNWR and ARI were the husband and wife, and MAD was the son.. or maybe MAD was the 2nd guy in 3some..
as i said before; NO NEED ANY EXPLANATION for Sharing reason. but they need to change this fucking 72h rule about reviving.. at least they should create a VOTD about it.. cause if WE play this game then WE should decide about it..
and one more thing about akills(not just those ones); they should BAN all ip/email/irc nick if they got akilled (once or at least twice).. and if a player gets akill then no chance for a STAR forever. (ofc removing star is the alternative way for it).
regards

if you kill top accounts of winning family @last week, it deserves an explanation. and if they think its VPN or TV usage (no other then that 2 reasons can be valid for such an idiot akill) yes it would be good post explaning it CAN BE CATCHED to prevent further attempts/akills. most ppl think that its safe, do not think only those 3 accounts could have used it.

"ban IP"? what a fucking moron you are, nobody use static IP, you connect your account from your workplace etc. how you can ban IP? even you connect from your home all time, you dont have same IP if you didnt apply for static IP (which is useless if you dont run something like virtual server). if you try to ban such IP you would end fucking up some other ppl more then that cheater.

"ban email", "ban irc nick"? did you ever tried to get a new one? it takes 1min with gmail.

yeah i did reply to an idiot that has such solutions like "ban IP"/ "ban email", idiocracy is not a new thing @omerta playground
Anonymous (10:21:18 - 03-07)
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YOU MAD?!

Looks like marazzino learned how to "build MACHINES"!!!!!!

Anonymous (10:17:43 - 03-07)
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Ari at 15:51:04 on 02/07:
Fenrir at 15:45:28 on 02/07:
Ari at 15:32:02 on 02/07:
MurderInc at 14:24:22 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 13:58:30 on 02/07:
Well I do want to believe you Ari (and i'm not even from Maraz), but isn't it possible that something went wrong when using teamviewer? that someone from Turkey just logged in on your account without teamviewer or something went wrong while using teamviewer. If you are really on another continent, i can't really think of anything else besides teamviewer going wrong or being hacked to create the same IP where both Lenny and Panda were logged in.
That's not possible from a technical POV, unless you also shared your login credentials and accidentally typed those in your local browser instead of through TeamViewer. TeamViewer can't "leak" data to a site like Omerta due to the way it works.

I don't think the crew claimed they shared IP addresses either.

Fact is, yes, it's not possible have 100% proof for TV usage. To me it seems they're simply going for the same standard they've started applying to funding: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Then again, I wouldn't put any money on the crew always being able to identify ducks, so yeah, those akills should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially since without any technical proof, the difference between two people ranking together (synced GC times etc.) and two people using TV is rather hard to detect.

Sadly, I think the only way to handle this on the player side is to literally go out of your way and prevent doing anything suspicious (i.e., do group crimes with random players on IRC, etc.) - and of course that's pretty crazy.

I do wonder what the community would think about legalizing sharing in some way.


It was actually their own words, "We don't buy it that you live in the US, and we have proof that you are in the same house with cnwr"

On the second note, cnwr and I maybe had ~10 heists together since we both preferred being leaders, so there goes the mutual group crime theory too..

Anyways

Its a known fact you live in US. Heck, you and Mellow are regular bustingpartners while ranking, due to being in same timezone. If thats the reason its beyond ridicolous...

Thing is I could've easily proven that to them, faxing my immigration documents and all. But they weren't interested, and they had made up their mind. Thats what frustrated us because their whole argument was invalid.

You got what you deserved so stop crying. Anyway you are still one of the winners after you are up again why are you still crying ? Just for hof or jealousness against siberia ? Do not be a drama queen, there are enough morons.
Anonymous (08:50:04 - 03-07)
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Anonymous at 20:47:21 on 02/07:
mr gode the god you forgot something. why top family crew need to share? with a capo profit that is more then 200millions? just too greedy play style. cheers from your g :)

The only greed in that is being the best so you and/or your family ends up in the Hall of Fame. Simply as that. First it was scripting to the limit, untill scripts got caught or snitched or w/e. Now it's dupes all over the place, easily done with lackeys, which also causes more people to be inactive. So, hmm, hard to keep up your regular memberbase and win a version..

How do u win then? Make your top-accounts as strong as possible in the fastest way. Whole omerta is busting from day 1, instead of the 'honoured busters', just to reach as much RP as they can within the 500 b/n tries. No, believe me that people don't reach that amount of busts in such a short time in a manual way and also rank in that same time. Lackeys skip b/n a lot with those shitty prices, or without reason. You have to keep track of getting RP every hour. No way people can do that on their own, that would make u miss RP if you're gonna sleep. Solution: teamviewer. Simple. You will be shocked how many people use it.

Besides that you still have several ways of swapping/trading money in between versions. Which is forbidden, but still happens. Crew just let all these things happen untill they decide it has crossed the line. Or well, some crews do, some crews don't. Just depends on how good your friendship & history is. We all know they don't give a fuck about being consequent. Just a shame they always Akill in the 2 weeks before it is reset, which happened in the past 4-5 versions, if I am not wrong there. That's just a sign of the crew that they don't agree on several people winning a version.

They should remove the Hall of Fame, that would make people push themselves less to the limit. U can't even compete properly without swapping/scripting/teamviewer/duping nowadays. Even selling DC's is getting risky.

We all know crew is to blame for being inconsequent and having a lack of authority, but we as players are all to blame even more and we know it. Just play the game and accept the limits. Why bother to even give crew a small reason to akill you? Leave cheating and play, idealistic and impossible for sure. People are so greedy for a yellow star to put on their Curriculum Vitae.
Anonymous (08:35:39 - 03-07)
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Come on, if the players didnt use teamviewer, this game was dead already (more that it is)
Solstice (08:29:16 - 03-07)
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Anonymous at 08:26:17 on 03/07:
Anonymous at 20:48:55 on 02/07:
gode at 20:32:09 on 02/07:
yes there can be some methods to catch teamviewer usage.
player A and player B are both online same time, some clicks/actions (postbacks) on account A then some clicks/actions (postbacks) on account B, then again on account A.... if you can catch such recursive pattern 3-5 times then you can claim thats teamviewer usage.

but do i believe that omerta team can catch TV usage with this method or similar method? NO

and if they can catch it, WHY WOULDNT THEY ANNOUNCE IT ?? ffs some idiots write here "if they announce it then everyone will know how they catch it" fucking idiots nobody telling that admins should post something like "we catch you with this method bla bla", we just need a post from bramble stating "Lately some akills occured cuz we caught them using remote desktop software. Be aware that using that kind of trick will be counted as bug abuse bla bla". you kill the winning fam @last week of version, if you are solid with your decision then this playerbase needs some explanation about it

on the other hand, if its not about TV usage and they just think Ari and Cnwr lives in same place sharing accounts, then fuck it bro, such idiocracy is solid proof why this game lost playerbase each and every year

Admins don't need to state that teamviewer is cheating just read the rules. Sharing = forbidden. You share your account with teamviewer.
+1

That's something entirely different than giving the reason of an akill. They won't even say that. "You're akilled because fuck you" is basically what they tell people.
Anonymous (08:26:17 - 03-07)
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Anonymous at 20:48:55 on 02/07:
gode at 20:32:09 on 02/07:
yes there can be some methods to catch teamviewer usage.
player A and player B are both online same time, some clicks/actions (postbacks) on account A then some clicks/actions (postbacks) on account B, then again on account A.... if you can catch such recursive pattern 3-5 times then you can claim thats teamviewer usage.

but do i believe that omerta team can catch TV usage with this method or similar method? NO

and if they can catch it, WHY WOULDNT THEY ANNOUNCE IT ?? ffs some idiots write here "if they announce it then everyone will know how they catch it" fucking idiots nobody telling that admins should post something like "we catch you with this method bla bla", we just need a post from bramble stating "Lately some akills occured cuz we caught them using remote desktop software. Be aware that using that kind of trick will be counted as bug abuse bla bla". you kill the winning fam @last week of version, if you are solid with your decision then this playerbase needs some explanation about it

on the other hand, if its not about TV usage and they just think Ari and Cnwr lives in same place sharing accounts, then fuck it bro, such idiocracy is solid proof why this game lost playerbase each and every year

Admins don't need to state that teamviewer is cheating just read the rules. Sharing = forbidden. You share your account with teamviewer.
+1
Anonymous (08:25:21 - 03-07)
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@Gode: " ffs some idiots write here "if they announce it then everyone will know how they catch it" fucking idiots nobody telling that admins should post something like "we catch you with this method bla bla", we just need a post from bramble stating "Lately some akills occured cuz we caught them using remote desktop software. Be aware that using that kind of trick will be counted as bug abuse bla bla" "

are u moron? why the fuck they need an explanation for TV?

sharing is sharing, TV or SAME HOUSE...
and i think CNWR and ARI were the husband and wife, and MAD was the son.. or maybe MAD was the 2nd guy in 3some..
as i said before; NO NEED ANY EXPLANATION for Sharing reason. but they need to change this fucking 72h rule about reviving.. at least they should create a VOTD about it.. cause if WE play this game then WE should decide about it..
and one more thing about akills(not just those ones); they should BAN all ip/email/irc nick if they got akilled (once or at least twice).. and if a player gets akill then no chance for a STAR forever. (ofc removing star is the alternative way for it).
regards
Merton (06:32:55 - 03-07)
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Actually...in regards to the famless members...why haven't they joined other families..or bank their cash to not attract attention...Or are they god forbid..dupes?

anywho's

I'm off to work

Merton XXxxxx <xtra because I know I'm getting to you :P
Merton (06:16:25 - 03-07)
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Anonymous at 05:48:26 on 03/07:


you are just a jealous piece of shit, nothing more. first, you reported maraz tops several times, then you r shooting famless maraz members.

you will never win a sollid version...


Couple of things,
i. Jealous? don't know the chap, but jealous of an online game? Seriously look at yourself in a mirror ffs!
ii. If there wasn't any evidence of cheating there would be no case. I've reported people who I know have duped, shared or cheated. The less cheats the more enjoyment.
iii. Shooting famless members...Really grow up, that would be part of the game, no wonder you write stuff like a young boy.

ah well
Love 'n' stuff

Merton Xxxx
Anonymous (05:48:26 - 03-07)
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MurderInc at 21:30:32 on 02/07:
Aart at 21:26:41 on 02/07:
Whatever the reason might be, the game admins should have a clear policy about akills and revives. They clearly lacked the sense to do this for multiple years now.
We've seen weird/random/unjustified akills and revives in the past, we've seen admins handling different policies than their colleagues, we've seen admins treat / favour certain players differently.
Because of all this I will personally never agree to their ways of handling any of these situations.
>> insert comment about how legendary master cheater Aart of bughelli-fame shouldn't comment on anything akill-related here <<

you are just a jealous piece of shit, nothing more. first, you reported maraz tops several times, then you r shooting famless maraz members.

you will never win a sollid version...
Mickgee aka mcgee (01:45:35 - 03-07)
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Anonymous at 21:11:08 on 02/07:
OK 1 last time for the retards,

:')
Aart (21:32:57 - 02-07)
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MurderInc at 21:30:32 on 02/07:
Aart at 21:26:41 on 02/07:
Whatever the reason might be, the game admins should have a clear policy about akills and revives. They clearly lacked the sense to do this for multiple years now.
We've seen weird/random/unjustified akills and revives in the past, we've seen admins handling different policies than their colleagues, we've seen admins treat / favour certain players differently.
Because of all this I will personally never agree to their ways of handling any of these situations.
>> insert comment about how legendary master cheater Aart of bughelli-fame shouldn't comment on anything akill-related here <<
Oh ye sorry im not entitled to talk about these things. DISREGARD.
MurderInc Austria (21:30:32 - 02-07)
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Aart at 21:26:41 on 02/07:
Whatever the reason might be, the game admins should have a clear policy about akills and revives. They clearly lacked the sense to do this for multiple years now.
We've seen weird/random/unjustified akills and revives in the past, we've seen admins handling different policies than their colleagues, we've seen admins treat / favour certain players differently.
Because of all this I will personally never agree to their ways of handling any of these situations.
>> insert comment about how legendary master cheater Aart of bughelli-fame shouldn't comment on anything akill-related here <<
Aart (21:26:41 - 02-07)
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Whatever the reason might be, the game admins should have a clear policy about akills and revives. They clearly lacked the sense to do this for multiple years now.
We've seen weird/random/unjustified akills and revives in the past, we've seen admins handling different policies than their colleagues, we've seen admins treat / favour certain players differently.
Because of all this I will personally never agree to their ways of handling any of these situations.
Anonymous (21:23:16 - 02-07)
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Anonymous at 21:19:08 on 02/07:
Anonymous at 21:14:09 on 02/07:
but now only cause u guys didn´t did group crims together you cant be akilled? if you were sharing you totally deserve it.

like for real? I'm just trying to understand if you are actually a mongol or are you trolling. How can you tell the difference if its the owner of the account waking up or some one connecting to his PC? How can you prove the share?

There was no share, there was nothing to prove. Thats why they choose the easiest way and said, we are living in the same house and sharing our accounts, even went as far as my US IP was VPN logged.. like lol..

w/e I think the people who matters already got the point, and knows whats going on.. the rest of the trollers or idiots, just have a beer enjoy life gg
What's going on? Can you elaborate on that?