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Akills sometimes occur at the worst times imaginable and often have a great impact on the server outcome. What do you think should happen in cases like these?
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Aart (15:48:08 - 27-01)
Redvendetta (15:22:10 - 27-01)
gode at 15:10:03 on 27/01:
Except 3 versions my game life in omerta :
I played around 15 versions, avarage accounts within 100-400 ranking, avarage of 5/6 brug kills. never made top20-30 in this rounds.
3.2 => GF with 15 brug+ kills but this version lasted so many months so it was a regular achievement
3.3 => GF with 1m bullets in a buggy version, as you remember you had 5m bullets when i had 1m
version with star => i didn't play couple of versions and collected very good amount of DCs with company phone, spent all in a short version, and killed lots of chief account since there was a lame boss in family
NOW you explain me how you can keep up with accounts having 20+ dupes, accounts with bug abuse??
and you make it every version even when Righelli/Aeterna was creating free game money?
Redvendetta at 14:43:37 on 27/01:
If you're going to accuse me of cheating for consistently making good accounts, I can just as easily accuse you of cheating for having the most kills in a version - it's about the same level of evidence that your claims are based on. Your comments are severely lacking in facts and completely irrelevant.
If you're going to accuse me of cheating for consistently making good accounts, I can just as easily accuse you of cheating for having the most kills in a version - it's about the same level of evidence that your claims are based on. Your comments are severely lacking in facts and completely irrelevant.
Except 3 versions my game life in omerta :
I played around 15 versions, avarage accounts within 100-400 ranking, avarage of 5/6 brug kills. never made top20-30 in this rounds.
3.2 => GF with 15 brug+ kills but this version lasted so many months so it was a regular achievement
3.3 => GF with 1m bullets in a buggy version, as you remember you had 5m bullets when i had 1m
version with star => i didn't play couple of versions and collected very good amount of DCs with company phone, spent all in a short version, and killed lots of chief account since there was a lame boss in family
NOW you explain me how you can keep up with accounts having 20+ dupes, accounts with bug abuse??
and you make it every version even when Righelli/Aeterna was creating free game money?
Simple, DCs are 'cheap' for me being in the UK, and I have a job.
And in regard to your other point which was awkwardly posted separately, the topic was triggered by the akills from Avaritia, but not limited to them or discussing them specifically, there was no mention of them in the topic. Only after people assumed it was related to Avaritia did Aart discuss the timing of his topic (which was after several accusations of him cheating too). Pay attention, Gode.
Redvendetta at 14:43:37 on 27/01:
If you're going to accuse me of cheating for consistently making good accounts, I can just as easily accuse you of cheating for having the most kills in a version - it's about the same level of evidence that your claims are based on. Your comments are severely lacking in facts and completely irrelevant.
If you're going to accuse me of cheating for consistently making good accounts, I can just as easily accuse you of cheating for having the most kills in a version - it's about the same level of evidence that your claims are based on. Your comments are severely lacking in facts and completely irrelevant.
Except 3 versions my game life in omerta :
I played around 15 versions, avarage accounts within 100-400 ranking, avarage of 5/6 brug kills. never made top20-30 in this rounds.
3.2 => GF with 15 brug+ kills but this version lasted so many months so it was a regular achievement
3.3 => GF with 1m bullets in a buggy version, as you remember you had 5m bullets when i had 1m
version with star => i didn't play couple of versions and collected very good amount of DCs with company phone, spent all in a short version, and killed lots of chief account since there was a lame boss in family
NOW you explain me how you can keep up with accounts having 20+ dupes, accounts with bug abuse??
and you make it every version even when Righelli/Aeterna was creating free game money?
Redvendetta at 14:43:37 on 27/01:
The only one trying to make individuals look like a 'big time cheater/abuser' is you. The topic was created WITHOUT prejudice, without mentioning names or making accusations. You're the one who has been pointing fingers.
If you're going to accuse me of cheating for consistently making good accounts, I can just as easily accuse you of cheating for having the most kills in a version - it's about the same level of evidence that your claims are based on. Your comments are severely lacking in facts and completely irrelevant. Aart made this topic (I assume) to start a positive discussion on how the players would like to be treated when they are killed by illegitimate accounts, the only one making this topic anything other than what it was created to be is you. So like I suggested before, if you have anything positive contribute now would be the time to do so.
gode at 13:20:35 on 27/01:
Aart opened that subject due to akill of BJack and Juba, and he also mentioned that. So get your facts more clear before judging me. PPL HAVING 2 DUPES IS A REGULAR DAY IN OMERTA JUST CHECK AKILLS DAILY OK? if you wanna make someone look "big time cheater/abuser" first you should check your own pockets. that's also for you, don't expect me to believe "top 5 account every version" without any cheats.
Aart opened that subject due to akill of BJack and Juba, and he also mentioned that. So get your facts more clear before judging me. PPL HAVING 2 DUPES IS A REGULAR DAY IN OMERTA JUST CHECK AKILLS DAILY OK? if you wanna make someone look "big time cheater/abuser" first you should check your own pockets. that's also for you, don't expect me to believe "top 5 account every version" without any cheats.
The only one trying to make individuals look like a 'big time cheater/abuser' is you. The topic was created WITHOUT prejudice, without mentioning names or making accusations. You're the one who has been pointing fingers.
If you're going to accuse me of cheating for consistently making good accounts, I can just as easily accuse you of cheating for having the most kills in a version - it's about the same level of evidence that your claims are based on. Your comments are severely lacking in facts and completely irrelevant. Aart made this topic (I assume) to start a positive discussion on how the players would like to be treated when they are killed by illegitimate accounts, the only one making this topic anything other than what it was created to be is you. So like I suggested before, if you have anything positive contribute now would be the time to do so.
from Aart with his own words :
Aart at 14:52:36 on 22/01:
You're right that because of the given timing it looks like the article is targetting Avaritia. As you can probably imagine, a bit intended. Why shouldn't it? There haven't been any other families with this many noteworthy akills at this stage of the version... I haven't made you guys a hot topic, you did that to yourself so please don't shift that blame on me (not to you personally but you know who I mean).
You're right that because of the given timing it looks like the article is targetting Avaritia. As you can probably imagine, a bit intended. Why shouldn't it? There haven't been any other families with this many noteworthy akills at this stage of the version... I haven't made you guys a hot topic, you did that to yourself so please don't shift that blame on me (not to you personally but you know who I mean).
are you serious Red? follow the topic ok? Aart opened that topic targetting 2 avaritia CD akills.
Redvendetta (14:43:37 - 27-01)
gode at 13:20:35 on 27/01:
Aart opened that subject due to akill of BJack and Juba, and he also mentioned that. So get your facts more clear before judging me. PPL HAVING 2 DUPES IS A REGULAR DAY IN OMERTA JUST CHECK AKILLS DAILY OK? if you wanna make someone look "big time cheater/abuser" first you should check your own pockets. that's also for you, don't expect me to believe "top 5 account every version" without any cheats.
Aart opened that subject due to akill of BJack and Juba, and he also mentioned that. So get your facts more clear before judging me. PPL HAVING 2 DUPES IS A REGULAR DAY IN OMERTA JUST CHECK AKILLS DAILY OK? if you wanna make someone look "big time cheater/abuser" first you should check your own pockets. that's also for you, don't expect me to believe "top 5 account every version" without any cheats.
The only one trying to make individuals look like a 'big time cheater/abuser' is you. The topic was created WITHOUT prejudice, without mentioning names or making accusations. You're the one who has been pointing fingers.
If you're going to accuse me of cheating for consistently making good accounts, I can just as easily accuse you of cheating for having the most kills in a version - it's about the same level of evidence that your claims are based on. Your comments are severely lacking in facts and completely irrelevant. Aart made this topic (I assume) to start a positive discussion on how the players would like to be treated when they are killed by illegitimate accounts, the only one making this topic anything other than what it was created to be is you. So like I suggested before, if you have anything positive contribute now would be the time to do so.
Redvendetta at 12:16:01 on 27/01:
Sorry, but Aart doesn't even come close to being one of the best cheaters of all time, he sucks at it. Aart wasn't responsible for ANY of Righelli's bugs, of which there were admittedly a few - in fact, the version Righelli were removed from the HoF was due to the tops from Righelli who then went to Aeterna (Aeterna got akilled and Righelli removed from the HoF due to the same people abusing the same bugs).
It's fine if you want to accuse Righelli of being a cheating family, but to put the blame on Aart is entirely idiotic. He was top there during some of the bugs, but he wasn't akilled with those who were responsible for the Righelli bugs. Sorry to burst your bubble of blind Aart hate, but hopefully you're now more informed about the subject and can stop making yourself look foolish.
Sorry, but Aart doesn't even come close to being one of the best cheaters of all time, he sucks at it. Aart wasn't responsible for ANY of Righelli's bugs, of which there were admittedly a few - in fact, the version Righelli were removed from the HoF was due to the tops from Righelli who then went to Aeterna (Aeterna got akilled and Righelli removed from the HoF due to the same people abusing the same bugs).
It's fine if you want to accuse Righelli of being a cheating family, but to put the blame on Aart is entirely idiotic. He was top there during some of the bugs, but he wasn't akilled with those who were responsible for the Righelli bugs. Sorry to burst your bubble of blind Aart hate, but hopefully you're now more informed about the subject and can stop making yourself look foolish.
Yea some hackers rob ING but 1 of them wasn't that guilty. Great logic. If Xerano was OBN writer and opened that topic i would write the same ofc, i'm not Aart hater.
Redvendetta at 12:16:01 on 27/01:
As far as the difference between duping and bug abuse - there isn't any. 10 brug dupes provide an income of around $100m per day to a main account from lackeys alone. If you're spawning $100m in the game per day via bug abuse, you will be noticed and caught almost immediately. $100m is the equivalent to 120k bullets per day, comfortably. Add to that the fact that dupers usually use even more funding accounts on other versions and you can see that they are a VERY viable alternative to bug abuse. Whatever other games do about dupers is completely irrelevant, as they likely don't have such an abusable system available with legal scripting.
As far as the difference between duping and bug abuse - there isn't any. 10 brug dupes provide an income of around $100m per day to a main account from lackeys alone. If you're spawning $100m in the game per day via bug abuse, you will be noticed and caught almost immediately. $100m is the equivalent to 120k bullets per day, comfortably. Add to that the fact that dupers usually use even more funding accounts on other versions and you can see that they are a VERY viable alternative to bug abuse. Whatever other games do about dupers is completely irrelevant, as they likely don't have such an abusable system available with legal scripting.
I said that running big amount of dupes is also a big cheat. I could also understand if that topic was opened for someone who had 10+ dupes, that would be reasonable.
Redvendetta at 12:16:01 on 27/01:
Whatever Righelli did in the past, and whoever was responsible for it is not what this discussion is about. You've missed the point entirely. Whoever is currently cheating now isn't even relevant. The discussion is about cheating in general, and how the admins should respond to it because their current policy is nothing short of a complete failure for everyone affected. Aart didn't mention who the cheaters were in the topic of this discussion, yet you were perfectly willing to point the finger at him with no basis whatsoever to do so other than your inaccurate conclusion that Aart = Righelli and Righelli = cheaters, therefore Aart = cheater. I suggest you concentrate on the issue at hand, because it is an important one. Regardless of who has been cheating in the past, present or future, the current policy the admins have is simply not good enough.
Whatever Righelli did in the past, and whoever was responsible for it is not what this discussion is about. You've missed the point entirely. Whoever is currently cheating now isn't even relevant. The discussion is about cheating in general, and how the admins should respond to it because their current policy is nothing short of a complete failure for everyone affected. Aart didn't mention who the cheaters were in the topic of this discussion, yet you were perfectly willing to point the finger at him with no basis whatsoever to do so other than your inaccurate conclusion that Aart = Righelli and Righelli = cheaters, therefore Aart = cheater. I suggest you concentrate on the issue at hand, because it is an important one. Regardless of who has been cheating in the past, present or future, the current policy the admins have is simply not good enough.
Aart opened that subject due to akill of BJack and Juba, and he also mentioned that. So get your facts more clear before judging me. PPL HAVING 2 DUPES IS A REGULAR DAY IN OMERTA JUST CHECK AKILLS DAILY OK? if you wanna make someone look "big time cheater/abuser" first you should check your own pockets. that's also for you, don't expect me to believe "top 5 account every version" without any cheats.
Redvendetta (12:16:01 - 27-01)
gode at 21:01:35 on 26/01:
Aart you are a big time cheater (i can tell you, you are 1 of the best cheaters all time) and when i called you "bug abuser" immediately you began to go crazy and swear. Before giving me advices you should check your mental status.
Yes it is a big joke that a publicly known bug abuser opens topic about akills
Yes bug abusing is much worser then duping. Check other online games. Ogame for example, if you are duping they kill dupe account and freeze main account for some time. But if you are bug abusing (like generating free resource) you got banned forever from all servers you are playing. Got the idea?
Aart you are a big time cheater (i can tell you, you are 1 of the best cheaters all time) and when i called you "bug abuser" immediately you began to go crazy and swear. Before giving me advices you should check your mental status.
Yes it is a big joke that a publicly known bug abuser opens topic about akills
Yes bug abusing is much worser then duping. Check other online games. Ogame for example, if you are duping they kill dupe account and freeze main account for some time. But if you are bug abusing (like generating free resource) you got banned forever from all servers you are playing. Got the idea?
Sorry, but Aart doesn't even come close to being one of the best cheaters of all time, he sucks at it. Aart wasn't responsible for ANY of Righelli's bugs, of which there were admittedly a few - in fact, the version Righelli were removed from the HoF was due to the tops from Righelli who then went to Aeterna (Aeterna got akilled and Righelli removed from the HoF due to the same people abusing the same bugs).
It's fine if you want to accuse Righelli of being a cheating family, but to put the blame on Aart is entirely idiotic. He was top there during some of the bugs, but he wasn't akilled with those who were responsible for the Righelli bugs. Sorry to burst your bubble of blind Aart hate, but hopefully you're now more informed about the subject and can stop making yourself look foolish.
As far as the difference between duping and bug abuse - there isn't any. 10 brug dupes provide an income of around $100m per day to a main account from lackeys alone. If you're spawning $100m in the game per day via bug abuse, you will be noticed and caught almost immediately. $100m is the equivalent to 120k bullets per day, comfortably. Add to that the fact that dupers usually use even more funding accounts on other versions and you can see that they are a VERY viable alternative to bug abuse. Whatever other games do about dupers is completely irrelevant, as they likely don't have such an abusable system available with legal scripting.
Whatever Righelli did in the past, and whoever was responsible for it is not what this discussion is about. You've missed the point entirely. Whoever is currently cheating now isn't even relevant. The discussion is about cheating in general, and how the admins should respond to it because their current policy is nothing short of a complete failure for everyone affected. Aart didn't mention who the cheaters were in the topic of this discussion, yet you were perfectly willing to point the finger at him with no basis whatsoever to do so other than your inaccurate conclusion that Aart = Righelli and Righelli = cheaters, therefore Aart = cheater. I suggest you concentrate on the issue at hand, because it is an important one. Regardless of who has been cheating in the past, present or future, the current policy the admins have is simply not good enough.
The more time you waste bickering about who is the worst offender only derails the discussion from what it was intended to be, and what it needs to be to try and improve the game and make sure no one is negatively affected by cheaters in the future. You should be thankful that this topic got brought up at all, if you're so strongly against cheating. Get over your obsession with Aart and try contributing positively instead. Thanks.
Solstice (07:50:50 - 27-01)
gode at 16:00:50 on 26/01:
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
Solstice at 11:05:57 on 26/01:
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
Heard you the first time! I hate it when other people cheat too, not so much when i do it myself! I can relate!
MurderInc at 21:21:56 on 26/01:
I don't know what you're trying to prove here, but I can assure you there were plenty of people who've been able to keep up with the bug abuser with duping. You can trust me on that one. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I'm sure Drima and friends would also disagree on the "best cheater of all times" part.
gode at 21:01:35 on 26/01:
Aart you are a big time cheater (i can tell you, you are of the best cheaters all time) and when i called you "bug abuser" immediately you began to go crazy and swear. Before giving me advices you should check your mental status.
Yes it is a big joke that a publicly known bug abuser opens topic about akills
Yes bug abusing is much worser then duping. Check other online games. Ogame for example, if you are duping they kill dupe account and freeze main account for some time. But if you are bug abusing (like generating free resource) you got banned forever from all servers you are playing. Got the idea?
Aart you are a big time cheater (i can tell you, you are of the best cheaters all time) and when i called you "bug abuser" immediately you began to go crazy and swear. Before giving me advices you should check your mental status.
Yes it is a big joke that a publicly known bug abuser opens topic about akills
Yes bug abusing is much worser then duping. Check other online games. Ogame for example, if you are duping they kill dupe account and freeze main account for some time. But if you are bug abusing (like generating free resource) you got banned forever from all servers you are playing. Got the idea?
I'm sure Drima and friends would also disagree on the "best cheater of all times" part.
I dont have to prove it, check other online games too, not only Omerta, every online game has very strict policy about bug abusing. Bjack and Juba had 2 dupes each so what? They had akill and ppl get revives. Everyday ppl got akill from 1-2 dupes. Thats not big news.
If you have dupe army like 20 dupes as Shell mentions or a family with %80 of dupes yes i can consider this as a topic but 2 CD having 2 dupes is just a regular day in Omerta office. Its mostly about some ppl got butthurt and want to start a campaign so that it would look like a major crime
gode at 21:01:35 on 26/01:
Aart you are a big time cheater (i can tell you, you are of the best cheaters all time) and when i called you "bug abuser" immediately you began to go crazy and swear. Before giving me advices you should check your mental status.
Yes it is a big joke that a publicly known bug abuser opens topic about akills
Yes bug abusing is much worser then duping. Check other online games. Ogame for example, if you are duping they kill dupe account and freeze main account for some time. But if you are bug abusing (like generating free resource) you got banned forever from all servers you are playing. Got the idea?
Aart you are a big time cheater (i can tell you, you are of the best cheaters all time) and when i called you "bug abuser" immediately you began to go crazy and swear. Before giving me advices you should check your mental status.
Yes it is a big joke that a publicly known bug abuser opens topic about akills
Yes bug abusing is much worser then duping. Check other online games. Ogame for example, if you are duping they kill dupe account and freeze main account for some time. But if you are bug abusing (like generating free resource) you got banned forever from all servers you are playing. Got the idea?
I'm sure Drima and friends would also disagree on the "best cheater of all times" part.
Aart you are a big time cheater (i can tell you, you are 1 of the best cheaters all time) and when i called you "bug abuser" immediately you began to go crazy and swear. Before giving me advices you should check your mental status.
Yes it is a big joke that a publicly known bug abuser opens topic about akills
Yes bug abusing is much worser then duping. Check other online games. Ogame for example, if you are duping they kill dupe account and freeze main account for some time. But if you are bug abusing (like generating free resource) you got banned forever from all servers you are playing. Got the idea?
Yes it is a big joke that a publicly known bug abuser opens topic about akills
Yes bug abusing is much worser then duping. Check other online games. Ogame for example, if you are duping they kill dupe account and freeze main account for some time. But if you are bug abusing (like generating free resource) you got banned forever from all servers you are playing. Got the idea?
Aart (20:38:06 - 26-01)
gode at 19:17:14 on 25/01:
'Gode you illiterate moron' lol. grow up a little, you are not in highschool nor college now.
i thought you were smarter, calling names doesn't hurt me a gram, but it shows your maturity level.
abusing money or health bug is a big thing, cuz it is effecting entire game. faffie who had imba top accounts wasn't able to take down your buggy accounts for example. accounts with dupes are not that immortal, cuz most of top accounts are pumped with dupes. your fam managed to win 3 versions with those serious bug abuse and RIGHELLI FAM NAME WAS REMOVED FROM HOF did you see such punishment EVER? that was the best punishment i have ever seen if you ask me, you can put this into poll too. you and your friends also fucked up a family name, Righelli was a good memory for everyone like Conflict. your group made it look shit
about duping, it is also cheating but its not that big deal, since i know everyone is duping, i won't believe anyone who says he didn't open a 2nd account any version. bjack got caught cuz he killed so many and was possibly reported many times. shit happens and every version there are akills about duping, but not every version your fam name is removed from HOF.
@Johnx
Reviving is not a simple policy, that game is not played 1 fam vs. 1 fam.
But i won't spend more energy explaining, after dealing shit from aart
Aart at 17:18:22 on 19/01:
Gode you illiterate moron. You merely think I was a big abuser because I never been in denial when I got caught. When a family top (ppl I usually tend to take serious) is comming on here saying his entire real life family and group of friends is living in the same appartment building as himself, hence he got akilled.... doesn't really make me want to take someone more serious in the future. So pls, get your facts straight or talk less. Your buddy fucked up, let him deal with it.
Gode you illiterate moron. You merely think I was a big abuser because I never been in denial when I got caught. When a family top (ppl I usually tend to take serious) is comming on here saying his entire real life family and group of friends is living in the same appartment building as himself, hence he got akilled.... doesn't really make me want to take someone more serious in the future. So pls, get your facts straight or talk less. Your buddy fucked up, let him deal with it.
'Gode you illiterate moron' lol. grow up a little, you are not in highschool nor college now.
i thought you were smarter, calling names doesn't hurt me a gram, but it shows your maturity level.
abusing money or health bug is a big thing, cuz it is effecting entire game. faffie who had imba top accounts wasn't able to take down your buggy accounts for example. accounts with dupes are not that immortal, cuz most of top accounts are pumped with dupes. your fam managed to win 3 versions with those serious bug abuse and RIGHELLI FAM NAME WAS REMOVED FROM HOF did you see such punishment EVER? that was the best punishment i have ever seen if you ask me, you can put this into poll too. you and your friends also fucked up a family name, Righelli was a good memory for everyone like Conflict. your group made it look shit
about duping, it is also cheating but its not that big deal, since i know everyone is duping, i won't believe anyone who says he didn't open a 2nd account any version. bjack got caught cuz he killed so many and was possibly reported many times. shit happens and every version there are akills about duping, but not every version your fam name is removed from HOF.
@Johnx
Reviving is not a simple policy, that game is not played 1 fam vs. 1 fam.
But i won't spend more energy explaining, after dealing shit from aart
When you quote something and tell me to grow up based on that, quote the whole deal. There was only one of us who started the bashing here and let me tell you, that wasn't me.
gode at 22:45:57 on 18/01:
Aart opening an article about bug abuse is biggest joke this year so far.
Aart opening an article about bug abuse is biggest joke this year so far.
gode at 16:05:26 on 19/01:
one of the biggest bug abuser in the game shouldn't open any conversation about akills.
one of the biggest bug abuser in the game shouldn't open any conversation about akills.
Going back to the matter at hand. If you would have actually read a little more instead of squealing around like a 3 year old, you probably would have seen the response I wrote towards your friend Elindio.
Aart at 14:52:36 on 22/01:
Back when Righelli and Lucchese cheated and got caught for it, the version was shut down & reset, we got an ingame newspost by miss Bramble herself, got an article on OBN - heck, we nearly made CNN because of all the terror and injustice we inflicted upon everyone. Sure, we screwed things up way more than you guys now did... but does that really mean these current events should get away unnoticed and the people who are responsible are in any way a lesser cheater as I was back then? Bullshit, I was just cheating more effectively.
Back when Righelli and Lucchese cheated and got caught for it, the version was shut down & reset, we got an ingame newspost by miss Bramble herself, got an article on OBN - heck, we nearly made CNN because of all the terror and injustice we inflicted upon everyone. Sure, we screwed things up way more than you guys now did... but does that really mean these current events should get away unnoticed and the people who are responsible are in any way a lesser cheater as I was back then? Bullshit, I was just cheating more effectively.
Besides this, you are mixing up versions and creating imaginary facts, so let me help you:
gode at 19:17:14 on 25/01:
your fam managed to win 3 versions with those serious bug abuse and RIGHELLI FAM NAME WAS REMOVED FROM HOF did you see such punishment EVER? that was the best punishment i have ever seen if you ask me, you can put this into poll too.
your fam managed to win 3 versions with those serious bug abuse and RIGHELLI FAM NAME WAS REMOVED FROM HOF did you see such punishment EVER? that was the best punishment i have ever seen if you ask me, you can put this into poll too.
After that, Righelli has not won a version untill we won V4.5 about a year ago. That round the Righelli top was Aeshma Elky and myself for the entire run. Version won fair and square. The next version (I believe it was called 4.51) some tops from Aeterna got akilled for abusing a new bug which had something to do with lackeys if I'm not mistaking. Admins then got a little butthurt and Akilled Aeterna (which is fair since they cheated) and all of a sudden also decided to remove the HOF from Righelli V4.5. This was due to the simple fact that a few former Righelli tops were also topping in Aeterna (none of them being Aeshma Elky or me). The Righelli top then simply didn't want to give any of the admins the satisfaction by seeing us on our knees begging back for that HOF nomination which we clearly didn't give a fuck about. We know we won.
So you can scream and squeal all you want here about how you think that this was 'the best punishment you have ever seen' - but that only makes you look more retarded than you have made yourself look with your latest comments here on OBN.
Related to this version, as I allready said: I don't give a fuck about how much someone cheated, I only care if someone cheated. This version some people in Avaritia cheated and got Akilled for it. Those accounts were pretty influential for this version and thus it became a hot topic in the Omerta community. As an OBN reporter (something that literally anyone can become) I therefor made an article about the subject (like we always do with hot topics). The last thing I need after that is some twats like yourself judging me for my cheating behaviour in the past to cover up your own (or your friends) current cheating behaviour.
You want some good pillow talk gode, tell everyone how you won your precious jew star for top killer so 'fairly'.
Fuck off.
gode at 17:07:09 on 26/01:
ok johnx let me count you as "the person that didnt use any kind of duping". your type of players at most %1. you can count me on that. when you see 1m bullets shot in 1 month, thats duping or similar tricks. without using full fam money, you can't have 1m bullets (or even 500k, but lets call it 1m bcz some retard will jump in here tellin he collected 500k with manual ranking etc.) i have played enough to know that shit.
Johnx at 16:47:30 on 26/01:
You don't even seem to know how much dupes can do. I've had access to a cheat once, yet i couldn't even get near to dupers in rp(bustout money at start is huge)/account strenght.
And once again, not everyone has duped, really. I never even did fucking moneytrading as you mentioned but yet you still think i duped in some way just because you have yourself. Thief thinks every man steals.
gode at 16:00:50 on 26/01:
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
Solstice at 11:05:57 on 26/01:
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
And once again, not everyone has duped, really. I never even did fucking moneytrading as you mentioned but yet you still think i duped in some way just because you have yourself. Thief thinks every man steals.
ok johnx let me count you as "the person that didnt use any kind of duping". your type of players at most %1. you can count me on that. when you see 1m bullets shot in 1 month, thats duping or similar tricks. without using full fam money, you can't have 1m bullets (or even 500k, but lets call it 1m bcz some retard will jump in here tellin he collected 500k with manual ranking etc.) i have played enough to know that shit.
Duping is cheating and it messes the game up, i don't think we should say one cheat is worse than another. Ya'll cheaters in the end. There is a long list of things fucking up the game and they are both in there.
shell (17:51:21 - 26-01)
Solstice at 11:05:57 on 26/01:
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
gode at 19:17:14 on 25/01:
your fam managed to win 3 versions with those serious bug abuse and RIGHELLI FAM NAME WAS REMOVED FROM HOF did you see such punishment EVER? that was the best punishment i have ever seen if you ask me, you can put this into poll too. you and your friends also fucked up a family name, Righelli was a good memory for everyone like Conflict. your group made it look shit
Aart at 17:18:22 on 19/01:
Gode you illiterate moron. You merely think I was a big abuser because I never been in denial when I got caught. When a family top (ppl I usually tend to take serious) is comming on here saying his entire real life family and group of friends is living in the same appartment building as himself, hence he got akilled.... doesn't really make me want to take someone more serious in the future. So pls, get your facts straight or talk less. Your buddy fucked up, let him deal with it.
Gode you illiterate moron. You merely think I was a big abuser because I never been in denial when I got caught. When a family top (ppl I usually tend to take serious) is comming on here saying his entire real life family and group of friends is living in the same appartment building as himself, hence he got akilled.... doesn't really make me want to take someone more serious in the future. So pls, get your facts straight or talk less. Your buddy fucked up, let him deal with it.
your fam managed to win 3 versions with those serious bug abuse and RIGHELLI FAM NAME WAS REMOVED FROM HOF did you see such punishment EVER? that was the best punishment i have ever seen if you ask me, you can put this into poll too. you and your friends also fucked up a family name, Righelli was a good memory for everyone like Conflict. your group made it look shit
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
I don't know what family you are/were but Righelli still reminds me and the almost whole reds of good moments and that is what counts. 2, 3 people in 300+ family cheated. FUCKING CHEATER X!!!
If you are still crying over something happened in 1 or 2 versions some years ago, it also rings the bell for you and giving you warning to focus on reality than being a NEET.
shell (17:42:56 - 26-01)
gode at 17:07:09 on 26/01:
ok johnx let me count you as "the person that didnt use any kind of duping". your type of players at most %1. you can count me on that. when you see 1m bullets shot in 1 month, thats duping or similar tricks. without using full fam money, you can't have 1m bullets (or even 500k, but lets call it 1m bcz some retard will jump in here tellin he collected 500k with manual ranking etc.) i have played enough to know that shit.
Johnx at 16:47:30 on 26/01:
You don't even seem to know how much dupes can do. I've had access to a cheat once, yet i couldn't even get near to dupers in rp(bustout money at start is huge)/account strenght.
And once again, not everyone has duped, really. I never even did fucking moneytrading as you mentioned but yet you still think i duped in some way just because you have yourself. Thief thinks every man steals.
gode at 16:00:50 on 26/01:
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
Solstice at 11:05:57 on 26/01:
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
And once again, not everyone has duped, really. I never even did fucking moneytrading as you mentioned but yet you still think i duped in some way just because you have yourself. Thief thinks every man steals.
ok johnx let me count you as "the person that didnt use any kind of duping". your type of players at most %1. you can count me on that. when you see 1m bullets shot in 1 month, thats duping or similar tricks. without using full fam money, you can't have 1m bullets (or even 500k, but lets call it 1m bcz some retard will jump in here tellin he collected 500k with manual ranking etc.) i have played enough to know that shit.
How about people who used to play over than 40 accounts ? i can name at least 5 of them. What about those with 20+accounts, i can name over than 15. And tbh, those accounts had more impact on the game than a single bug abused account due to KA.
Johnx at 16:47:30 on 26/01:
You don't even seem to know how much dupes can do. I've had access to a cheat once, yet i couldn't even get near to dupers in rp(bustout money at start is huge)/account strenght.
And once again, not everyone has duped, really. I never even did fucking moneytrading as you mentioned but yet you still think i duped in some way just because you have yourself. Thief thinks every man steals.
gode at 16:00:50 on 26/01:
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
Solstice at 11:05:57 on 26/01:
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
And once again, not everyone has duped, really. I never even did fucking moneytrading as you mentioned but yet you still think i duped in some way just because you have yourself. Thief thinks every man steals.
ok johnx let me count you as "the person that didnt use any kind of duping". your type of players at most %1. you can count me on that. when you see 1m bullets shot in 1 month, thats duping or similar tricks. without using full fam money, you can't have 1m bullets (or even 500k, but lets call it 1m bcz some retard will jump in here tellin he collected 500k with manual ranking etc.) i have played enough to know that shit.
gode at 16:00:50 on 26/01:
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
Solstice at 11:05:57 on 26/01:
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
And once again, not everyone has duped, really. I never even did fucking moneytrading as you mentioned but yet you still think i duped in some way just because you have yourself. Thief thinks every man steals.
Solstice at 11:05:57 on 26/01:
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
in short: duping is not a major crime to discuss in such subject. it is in the game from the day this game started. everybody does it* some get caught, some not. when you have army of dupes or a whole family with dupes, then it can be a subject. a player with 2 dupes ffs, everyday there is an akill about it.
abusing some serious bug (200 hp immortal accounts/free unlimited game money population) is effecting entire gameplay, and this is a major thing to discuss. somebody who used such bugs (aart) opening a subject about players with 2 dupes is simply pathetic
* opening an account other version and moneytrade is also duping, some ppl open 2nd account to observe in wartime and stay offline with main account, some ppl open to bash or troll, some for sending dishp, some for suiciding highrank opponent in low ranks, some for hitlisting. its even easier now everybody has smartphones and free 2nd IP. with max. 300-400 ppl playing this shit how do you think 2000+ valid accounts are around?
Solstice (11:05:57 - 26-01)
gode at 19:17:14 on 25/01:
"Gode you illiterate moron" lol. grow up a little, you are not in highschool nor college now.
i thought you were smarter, calling names doesn't hurt me a gram, but it shows your maturity level.
abusing money or health bug is a big thing, cuz it is effecting entire game. faffie who had imba top accounts wasn't able to take down your buggy accounts for example. accounts with dupes are not that immortal, cuz most of top accounts are pumped with dupes. your fam managed to win 3 versions with those serious bug abuse and RIGHELLI FAM NAME WAS REMOVED FROM HOF did you see such punishment EVER? that was the best punishment i have ever seen if you ask me, you can put this into poll too. you and your friends also fucked up a family name, Righelli was a good memory for everyone like Conflict. your group made it look shit
about duping, it is also cheating but its not that big deal, since i know everyone is duping, i won't believe anyone who says he didn't open a 2nd account any version. bjack got caught cuz he killed so many and was possibly reported many times. shit happens and every version there are akills about duping, but not every version your fam name is removed from HOF.
@Johnx
Reviving is not a simple policy, that game is not played 1 fam vs. 1 fam.
But i won't spend more energy explaining, after dealing shit from aart
Aart at 17:18:22 on 19/01:
Gode you illiterate moron. You merely think I was a big abuser because I never been in denial when I got caught. When a family top (ppl I usually tend to take serious) is comming on here saying his entire real life family and group of friends is living in the same appartment building as himself, hence he got akilled.... doesn't really make me want to take someone more serious in the future. So pls, get your facts straight or talk less. Your buddy fucked up, let him deal with it.
Gode you illiterate moron. You merely think I was a big abuser because I never been in denial when I got caught. When a family top (ppl I usually tend to take serious) is comming on here saying his entire real life family and group of friends is living in the same appartment building as himself, hence he got akilled.... doesn't really make me want to take someone more serious in the future. So pls, get your facts straight or talk less. Your buddy fucked up, let him deal with it.
"Gode you illiterate moron" lol. grow up a little, you are not in highschool nor college now.
i thought you were smarter, calling names doesn't hurt me a gram, but it shows your maturity level.
abusing money or health bug is a big thing, cuz it is effecting entire game. faffie who had imba top accounts wasn't able to take down your buggy accounts for example. accounts with dupes are not that immortal, cuz most of top accounts are pumped with dupes. your fam managed to win 3 versions with those serious bug abuse and RIGHELLI FAM NAME WAS REMOVED FROM HOF did you see such punishment EVER? that was the best punishment i have ever seen if you ask me, you can put this into poll too. you and your friends also fucked up a family name, Righelli was a good memory for everyone like Conflict. your group made it look shit
about duping, it is also cheating but its not that big deal, since i know everyone is duping, i won't believe anyone who says he didn't open a 2nd account any version. bjack got caught cuz he killed so many and was possibly reported many times. shit happens and every version there are akills about duping, but not every version your fam name is removed from HOF.
@Johnx
Reviving is not a simple policy, that game is not played 1 fam vs. 1 fam.
But i won't spend more energy explaining, after dealing shit from aart
So in short: cheating is bad unless it's a cheat gode+fam can use. Ay, i here you!
Johnx at 20:26:41 on 25/01:
I once used another email at .nl because it wouldn't let me login to my usual email, other than that i've always only used my usual spam mail for this game. So no i actually haven't duped :(
gode at 20:24:07 on 25/01:
i don't believe you. everyone opens a 2nd account. some ppl try to make it look nice, opening that dupe account in other version and money exchanging. thats also duping imo and admins consider it duping for last 2 versions
Johnx at 19:37:40 on 25/01:
for the shit you wrote to Aart. Gode, you have no idea what you are talking about. the removal of righellis win was due to admins being butthurt.
2. I've never had a dupe, i've been thinking about it, but never got to it.
for the shit you wrote to Aart. Gode, you have no idea what you are talking about. the removal of righellis win was due to admins being butthurt.
2. I've never had a dupe, i've been thinking about it, but never got to it.
i don't believe you. everyone opens a 2nd account. some ppl try to make it look nice, opening that dupe account in other version and money exchanging. thats also duping imo and admins consider it duping for last 2 versions
Aart opened that subject due to akill of BJack and Juba, and he also mentioned that. So get your facts more clear before judging me. PPL HAVING 2 DUPES IS A REGULAR DAY IN OMERTA JUST CHECK AKILLS DAILY OK? if you wanna make someone look "big time cheater/abuser" first you should check your own pockets. that's also for you, don't expect me to believe "top 5 account every version" without any cheats.
The only one trying to make individuals look like a 'big time cheater/abuser' is you. The topic was created WITHOUT prejudice, without mentioning names or making accusations. You're the one who has been pointing fingers.
If you're going to accuse me of cheating for consistently making good accounts, I can just as easily accuse you of cheating for having the most kills in a version - it's about the same level of evidence that your claims are based on. Your comments are severely lacking in facts and completely irrelevant. Aart made this topic (I assume) to start a positive discussion on how the players would like to be treated when they are killed by illegitimate accounts, the only one making this topic anything other than what it was created to be is you. So like I suggested before, if you have anything positive contribute now would be the time to do so.
from Aart with his own words :
You're right that because of the given timing it looks like the article is targetting Avaritia. As you can probably imagine, a bit intended. Why shouldn't it? There haven't been any other families with this many noteworthy akills at this stage of the version... I haven't made you guys a hot topic, you did that to yourself so please don't shift that blame on me (not to you personally but you know who I mean).
are you serious Red? follow the topic ok? Aart opened that topic targetting 2 avaritia CD akills.
Besides that, I wasn't targetting 'just 2 avaritia CD akils' - I was opening a public duscussion and poll becuase you guys were making duping a hot item. You can't possibly blame me for placing a duper in their top3.
If I strike you as hypocritycal for doing my spare time work here for the community - I'll happily give you 'reporter status' so that from now on you can fuck up your time writing war articles, polls and above all - having absolute 1 way discussions with biased people.
I have tried explaining myself now time and time again to you and your friends and I genuinely tried to do so in a mannerly fashion. All you guys come up with is aart=cheater=cantwritearticles=amkyolo. Pretty sure you told me to grow up - right back at you bro.