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10-01 Keep your friends close.. or..?
Author: MurderInc
Last updated: 3381d 12h 57m 21s ago by Redspeert
Comments: 165
Views: 64,734
Votes: 1 (5 average)
Version: 4.7.2
Involved families: Avaritia, Bafra, Blacksea, Colossal, Colosseum, Jannisary, Renocenti, Cartagena, Colossus, Siberia, Aeterna, Benaboys, Darkside, Faffie, Gambino, Krays, Lusa, Outlawz, Persico, Trafficante
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Cartagena and Siberia are under attack by Jannisary+, Bafra, Colossal+ and Avaritia. The attack was caused by leaked logs from two Siberia tops showing that they intended to sell their bloods Avaritia and Colossal.

One hour into the war, Aeterna start their attack on Faffie and Gambino, who return fire immediately. Faffie and Gambino seemed to have detectives on Aeterna as backup for the initial attack, which was a threat that Aeterna chose to eliminate.
Avaritia is stepping up for Faffie and Gambino, shooting back at Aeterna. Persico joins the counter against Aeterna.

Summary:
Avaritia Bafra Blacksea Jannisary Colossal Colosseum → Siberia Cartagena Colossus

Aeterna Lusa Benaboys ↔ Faffie Gambino
Persico → Aeterna
Trafficante Outlawz → Lusa
Colossal → Persico Krays
Jannisary Darkside → Trafficante
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H`HMD (Top Colossal)
Well, where do I start. We were asked to shoot Avaritia last night with one of our bloods, while Siberia and Cartagena would hit another family. We agreed to that plan since it would be the next logical step for us in this version. Shortly after we received logs about Siberia and Cartagena having a secret 'as one' deal and them trying to get families to suicide on us shortly after we would hit Avaritia to secure their Hall of Fame stars (http://pastebin.com/s8xDBP5N).
So we took matters into our own hands and organised a war on Siberia/Cartagana, who were still thinking we would hit Avaritia. Good luck guys, you'd better have some divine intervention tonight; you're gonna need it.

Gsbaba (Top Jannisary)
<@Critycal> and they're afraid of carta's accs and that we might stab them for carta or smth
<@CloudInc> this ought to be the most cruel stab i've ever been involved in.
Yes indeed Kankas! Best stab ever. After these logs in future, if families still are continue to take that bunch of noobs as blood i will count them as brainless.

MurderInc (Top Siberia)
well, rekt.

Caesar (Top Cartagena)
That's one hell of a log I see there (http://pastebin.com/s8xDBP5N) and yet there weren't any Cartagena Tops involved in that conversation nor the planning of it. Our bad luck here is that this precise log leaked: making Cartagena look really bad, which wasn't even our own doings. As for Jannisary: they had already been planning on us because we didn't want to pay that exorbitant $180.000.000 amount of bloodmoney for an assa that was gunned down the other day. You reap what you sow ain't it? You have witnessed Alexander kill Blackout. Aut vincere aut mori. Carta o/
statistics
War started on: 19:21:03 10-01-2015 War ended on: 20:00:04 12-01-2015
Bullet difference: -24,707,826 War duration: 2d 0h 39m
Money difference: -$1,088,385,329 Players died: 265




deaths
Dead Families:
[Trafficante] Family down on 11:55 12-01
[Colossus] Family down on 18:55 11-01
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Aeterna | swin: 2 | assa: 3 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 17 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 303
Avaritia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 40
Benaboys | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 91
Blacksea | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Cartagena | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 5 | brug: 22 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 356
Colossal | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 18
Colossus | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 26
Darkside | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 11
Faffie | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 3 | brug: 5 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 89
Gambino | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 93
Jannisary | swin: 0 | assa: 2 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 104
Krays | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 3 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 169
Lusa | swin: 2 | assa: 2 | lc: 2 | chief: 1 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 176
Outlawz | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 20
Persico | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 52
Renocenti | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 27
Siberia | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 2 | brug: 27 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 407
Trafficante | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 2 | chief: 5 | brug: 18 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 308
Total | swin: 8 | assa: 10 | lc: 14 | chief: 22 | brug: 142 | cd: 4 | gf: 2 | points: 2,303
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Anonymous (19:16:21 - 11-01)
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Nuke at 18:12:19 on 11/01:
Anonymous at 17:49:56 on 11/01:

You make no sense Nuke. Avaritia + Colossal decided to shoot Siberia together. All of a sudden Avaritia backs off and starts shooting at a blood of Colossal to defend their own blood. Now Colossal is doing the EXACT same. They back off to shoot for their blood. What's the difference? You seem biased as hell.

It's called "logic", mate. Perhaps if you look at the diagram above (Yes, MurderInc made a diagram with arrows and everything), you will see the logic behind my statement.

Step 1: Avaritia, Colossal, and bloods were shooting the defenders.

Step 2: Aeterna joins the defenders and shoots the attackers.

(Still step 2) Avaritia attacks the new defender.

Step 3: Colossal turns betrayer and shooters against the attackers.

It's written in plain English. You must be from the backstabbers, Colossal, to be so biased.


LOL! Yes I am very biased, I am not involved in this war. I look at this forum and I see you complain about the pact in every comment you post. You sometimes know how to twist facts in such way that they harm the 'pact'. The summary or diagram you use doesn't show who shoots for who neithr shows why they shoot. It only shows who is targeting who. You claim Aeterna joins the defenders and shoots the attackers. If you look at your holy diagram, you can see Faffie and Gambino weren't even attacking. They also didn't shoot at any of the families who were attacking at that time.

Avaritia started shooting at Aeterna to defend their bloods who got attacked by Aeterna. While a lot of Siberia people were still alive at that time. Leaving Colossal vulnerable for incoming attacks. Colossal just helped out their blood Aeterna.

I am not sure if I should really discuss this with you because like I said you are known to be a 'pact hater' and I already see you lose arguments with others all the time anyway.
Killerzzz Netherlands (19:00:32 - 11-01)
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Nuke at 18:51:00 on 11/01:
Killerzzz at 18:11:32 on 11/01:

pretty easy isnt it? first colossal started the war against sib for the attempt of backstabbing, after that they try to save their other blood aeterna who didnt have much to do with the attempted backstab,

I missed this little gem.. Aeterna was shooting for the backstabbers. Colossal is now backstabbing the people who helped them take on Siberia.

Whether Aeterna had anything to do with the initial back stabbing is irrelevant. They chose to fight against the attackers.

Why do I have to continue repeating this? Aeterna willingly joined the other side. Colossal is the traitor for joining the defenders' side. I have no interest in this war, other than just to laugh at how stupid you all are.. So you have no reason to call me biased.


not really i think you never really learnt the rules of this game, they started the war shooting with each other (having no further ties to take out a commen enemy) and leaving out aeterna when families turned on aeterna taking them down it changed, it was siberia doing the backstabbing having non blooded fams shoot at a blooded fams turns the tables, and you need to step up for those bloods,, though i guess people like you always wanna have something to bitch, shoot for bloods its bad, not shooting when your bloods are being shot is bad, if these families would have left alone aeterna colossal didnt have to change plans did they?
Anonymous (18:57:39 - 11-01)
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Killerzzz Netherlands (18:56:25 - 11-01)
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Nuke at 18:12:19 on 11/01:
Anonymous at 17:49:56 on 11/01:

You make no sense Nuke. Avaritia + Colossal decided to shoot Siberia together. All of a sudden Avaritia backs off and starts shooting at a blood of Colossal to defend their own blood. Now Colossal is doing the EXACT same. They back off to shoot for their blood. What's the difference? You seem biased as hell.

It's called "logic", mate. Perhaps if you look at the diagram above (Yes, MurderInc made a diagram with arrows and everything), you will see the logic behind my statement.

Step 1: Avaritia, Colossal, and bloods were shooting the defenders.

Step 2: Aeterna joins the defenders and shoots the attackers.

(Still step 2) Avaritia attacks the new defender.

Step 3: Colossal turns betrayer and shooters against the attackers.

It's written in plain English. You must be from the backstabbers, Colossal, to be so biased.

how did colossal turn betrayer shooting non blooded fams for a blooded fam? =p
Nuke United States (18:56:03 - 11-01)
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H`HMD at 18:44:14 on 11/01:

The fact that he asks these kind of questions pretty much explains why his family hasn't been doing too well lately. You also might want to cut down on the heart bleeding anti illuminati mega pact speeches a bit, because you ain't got much credibility anymore in my opinion.

I never asked for your opinion. That should tell you all you need to know about what I think of you and your logic.

You people assume too much. If you asked questions from time to time, you might have a leg to stand on when you start to argue. Instead, you spew baseless assumptions. That's why you all suck at arguing.

Nice try, rookie.
Nuke United States (18:51:00 - 11-01)
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Killerzzz at 18:11:32 on 11/01:

pretty easy isnt it? first colossal started the war against sib for the attempt of backstabbing, after that they try to save their other blood aeterna who didnt have much to do with the attempted backstab,

I missed this little gem.. Aeterna was shooting for the backstabbers. Colossal is now backstabbing the people who helped them take on Siberia.

Whether Aeterna had anything to do with the initial back stabbing is irrelevant. They chose to fight against the attackers.

Why do I have to continue repeating this? Aeterna willingly joined the other side. Colossal is the traitor for joining the defenders' side. I have no interest in this war, other than just to laugh at how stupid you all are.. So you have no reason to call me biased.
Nuke United States (18:47:53 - 11-01)
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Ipukefromnuke at 18:19:00 on 11/01:

Step 2: Avaritia claimed Gambino and Faffie were shooting together with them against Siberia, but in reality they hired dets and were ready to attack Aeterna if they started to look active...having such a risk against them forced Aeterna to act first.

Step 3: Colossal were allready loosing one blood (siberia, due to backstab), trying to save another blood they shot for aeterna as Avaritia played dirty, trying to take out another Colossal blood to weaken their position.

Step 2: The only bullshit is that you're trying to say that a family cannot hire detectives on Siberia and Aeterna. So what if they had detectives against Aeterna, it doesn't mean that they did not shoot Siberia.

Step 3: Sounds to me that Colossal needs some help in choosing bloods, since they find their selves in a situation where they have to back stab one to shoot the other. Why do you think everyone else avoids "Pact"?.. Hell, why do you think we call them "Pact"? It's because they will always be closer to one another than to your dysfunctional family.
H`HMD Russian Federation (18:44:14 - 11-01)
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Redspeert at 18:13:45 on 11/01:
Killerzzz at 18:11:32 on 11/01:
Anonymous at 16:59:39 on 11/01:
Nuke at 16:57:38 on 11/01:
Why is Colossal shooting families on both sides? Who is in charge over there?


Red need take Star

pretty easy isnt it? first colossal started the war against sib for the attempt of backstabbing, after that they try to save their other blood aeterna who didnt have much to do with the attempted backstab,


Pretty much accurate but dont ruin the day for ppl like Nuke and PPAL who likes to pull shit out of their asses and hand it out as facts

The fact that he asks these kind of questions pretty much explains why his family hasn't been doing too well lately. You also might want to cut down on the heart bleeding anti illuminati mega pact speeches a bit, because you ain't got much credibility anymore in my opinion.
Nuke United States (18:41:19 - 11-01)
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Anonymous at 18:27:20 on 11/01:

So tell me who in this diagram decides to change target first? At that point it doesn't matter what side the new target is on anymore, the fact a fam you're shooting with decides to not finish the original target simply means all coop is gone im my world ...

In your world, people would continue serving your family while taking it in the back from another.

Siberia has 7 brugs left while Aeterna has 21 brugs remaining. If you cannot count, you won't understand this, but that's three times as many. How many of the Siberian brugs remaining were actually assigned to Avaritia? How many were assigned to a different family?

The only evidence anyone has presented thus far shows Colossal as a backstabber.
Anonymous (18:27:20 - 11-01)
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Nuke at 18:12:19 on 11/01:
Anonymous at 17:49:56 on 11/01:

You make no sense Nuke. Avaritia + Colossal decided to shoot Siberia together. All of a sudden Avaritia backs off and starts shooting at a blood of Colossal to defend their own blood. Now Colossal is doing the EXACT same. They back off to shoot for their blood. What's the difference? You seem biased as hell.

It's called "logic", mate. Perhaps if you look at the diagram above (Yes, MurderInc made a diagram with arrows and everything), you will see the logic behind my statement.

Step 1: Avaritia, Colossal, and bloods were shooting the defenders.

Step 2: Aeterna joins the defenders and shoots the attackers.

(Still step 2) Avaritia attacks the new defender.

Step 3: Colossal turns betrayer and shooters against the attackers.

It's written in plain English. You must be from the backstabbers, Colossal, to be so biased.

So tell me who in this diagram decides to change target first? At that point it doesn't matter what side the new target is on anymore, the fact a fam you're shooting with decides to not finish the original target simply means all coop is gone im my world ...
Ipukefromnuke (18:19:00 - 11-01)
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Nuke at 18:12:19 on 11/01:
Anonymous at 17:49:56 on 11/01:

You make no sense Nuke. Avaritia + Colossal decided to shoot Siberia together. All of a sudden Avaritia backs off and starts shooting at a blood of Colossal to defend their own blood. Now Colossal is doing the EXACT same. They back off to shoot for their blood. What's the difference? You seem biased as hell.

It's called "logic", mate. Perhaps if you look at the diagram above (Yes, MurderInc made a diagram with arrows and everything), you will see the logic behind my statement.

Step 1: Avaritia, Colossal, and bloods were shooting the defenders.

Step 2: Aeterna joins the defenders and shoots the attackers.

(Still step 2) Avaritia attacks the new defender.

Step 3: Colossal turns betrayer and shooters against the attackers.

It's written in plain English. You must be from the backstabbers, Colossal, to be so biased.


Step 1: Correct.

Step 2: Avaritia claimed Gambino and Faffie were shooting together with them against Siberia, but in reality they hired dets and were ready to attack Aeterna if they started to look active...having such a risk against them forced Aeterna to act first.

Step 3: Colossal were allready loosing one blood (siberia, due to backstab), trying to save another blood they shot for aeterna as Avaritia played dirty, trying to take out another Colossal blood to weaken their position.

The real backstabber in this war is siberia, but if you gonna call anyone else backstabber it would be Avaritia...But beeing the person you are, you are way to biased to see the facts behind your own bullshit ideas.
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (18:13:45 - 11-01)
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Killerzzz at 18:11:32 on 11/01:
Anonymous at 16:59:39 on 11/01:
Nuke at 16:57:38 on 11/01:
Why is Colossal shooting families on both sides? Who is in charge over there?


Red need take Star

pretty easy isnt it? first colossal started the war against sib for the attempt of backstabbing, after that they try to save their other blood aeterna who didnt have much to do with the attempted backstab,


Pretty much accurate but dont ruin the day for ppl like Nuke and PPAL who likes to pull shit out of their asses and hand it out as facts
Nuke United States (18:12:19 - 11-01)
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Anonymous at 17:49:56 on 11/01:

You make no sense Nuke. Avaritia + Colossal decided to shoot Siberia together. All of a sudden Avaritia backs off and starts shooting at a blood of Colossal to defend their own blood. Now Colossal is doing the EXACT same. They back off to shoot for their blood. What's the difference? You seem biased as hell.

It's called "logic", mate. Perhaps if you look at the diagram above (Yes, MurderInc made a diagram with arrows and everything), you will see the logic behind my statement.

Step 1: Avaritia, Colossal, and bloods were shooting the defenders.

Step 2: Aeterna joins the defenders and shoots the attackers.

(Still step 2) Avaritia attacks the new defender.

Step 3: Colossal turns betrayer and shooters against the attackers.

It's written in plain English. You must be from the backstabbers, Colossal, to be so biased.
Killerzzz Netherlands (18:11:32 - 11-01)
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Anonymous at 16:59:39 on 11/01:
Nuke at 16:57:38 on 11/01:
Why is Colossal shooting families on both sides? Who is in charge over there?


Red need take Star

pretty easy isnt it? first colossal started the war against sib for the attempt of backstabbing, after that they try to save their other blood aeterna who didnt have much to do with the attempted backstab,
PPAL (18:00:01 - 11-01)
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colossal first shoot siberia then shoot for aeterna? lol borderline game :D
Anonymous (17:49:56 - 11-01)
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Nuke at 17:37:40 on 11/01:
Jordyrp at 14:32:47 on 11/01:

He has a point, it's funny to cry about a pact being massive and boring (only reason the war was actually possible was thanks to gambino and maraz getting akilled anyway). And then when they shoot eachother it's still not good, I guess the only right ending is with illuanna winning :(

Mate, it's not like that.. Did you ever see the movie where the good guy gets separated from the others and finds himself surrounded on all sides? He fights the bad guys off valiantly until the last bullet, then we don't see him again.. It's like watching that.

Avaritia could have let others do the work for them, but they couldn't wait. I'll be surprised is they don't pay for wasting bullets for Pact, only to shoot Pact a week later.

Anonymous at 17:01:52 on 11/01:

Avarita is shooting down Colossal's blood Aeterna, so Colossal is targeting fams Avarita is either blooded to or that are likely to shoot with Avarita against Colossal in their future war.

Ava and Col don't have the bullets to take each other on directly right now, so they are posturing for their showdown by taking out each other's smaller allies. Not a surprising move really.

Thank you for the explanation.

So Avaritia defended their selves, and Colossal is stabbing them in the back by killing their bloods. I guess Colossal thinks Pact will forgive them if they fire in all directions..

"Look MurderInc. - It's not personal, we just don't know what we're doing. :D"

You make no sense Nuke. Avaritia + Colossal decided to shoot Siberia together. All of a sudden Avaritia backs off and starts shooting at a blood of Colossal to defend their own blood. Now Colossal is doing the EXACT same. They back off to shoot for their blood. What's the difference? You seem biased as hell.
Nuke United States (17:37:40 - 11-01)
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Jordyrp at 14:32:47 on 11/01:

He has a point, it's funny to cry about a pact being massive and boring (only reason the war was actually possible was thanks to gambino and maraz getting akilled anyway). And then when they shoot eachother it's still not good, I guess the only right ending is with illuanna winning :(

Mate, it's not like that.. Did you ever see the movie where the good guy gets separated from the others and finds himself surrounded on all sides? He fights the bad guys off valiantly until the last bullet, then we don't see him again.. It's like watching that.

Avaritia could have let others do the work for them, but they couldn't wait. I'll be surprised is they don't pay for wasting bullets for Pact, only to shoot Pact a week later.

Anonymous at 17:01:52 on 11/01:

Avarita is shooting down Colossal's blood Aeterna, so Colossal is targeting fams Avarita is either blooded to or that are likely to shoot with Avarita against Colossal in their future war.

Ava and Col don't have the bullets to take each other on directly right now, so they are posturing for their showdown by taking out each other's smaller allies. Not a surprising move really.

Thank you for the explanation.

So Avaritia defended their selves, and Colossal is stabbing them in the back by killing their bloods. I guess Colossal thinks Pact will forgive them if they fire in all directions..

"Look MurderInc. - It's not personal, we just don't know what we're doing. :D"
Nuke United States (17:03:07 - 11-01)
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Anonymous at 16:59:39 on 11/01:
Nuke at 16:57:38 on 11/01:
Why is Colossal shooting families on both sides? Who is in charge over there?


Red need take Star

I used to get stars and smiley faces all the time in kindergarten. Tell him all he has to do is complete a single task.

Pitiful..
Anonymous (17:01:52 - 11-01)
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Nuke at 16:57:38 on 11/01:
Why is Colossal shooting families on both sides? Who is in charge over there?

Avarita is shooting down Colossal's blood Aeterna, so Colossal is targeting fams Avarita is either blooded to or that are likely to shoot with Avarita against Colossal in their future war.

Ava and Col don't have the bullets to take each other on directly right now, so they are posturing for their showdown by taking out each other's smaller allies. Not a surprising move really.
Anonymous (16:59:39 - 11-01)
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Nuke at 16:57:38 on 11/01:
Why is Colossal shooting families on both sides? Who is in charge over there?


Red need take Star