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The Lusa family just got taken down after it's Don (and sotto who tried an escape to Tijana) got a-killed.
Many people are questioning the motives behind this a-kill, one of the admins had the following to say:
Ascii is not killed due to personal account abused, he found a bug in the system so his capos benefitted of it
that's why he got an akill, we will not revive the accounts he killed but we will discuss a compensation otherwise
Also some CD's (maybe all of them) from Lusa got demoted to Local Chief, so these accounts took advantage of the bug as well. The bug supposedly is used by more than just Lusa, it's just the fact that the CD's haven't demoted to Bruglione when having an empty regime, since they didn't do any manual action. Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive.
The official revive rule states that people will only get revived if they have been killed within 3 days before the a-kill of their shooter, which for many of the gangsters comes too late.
How do you feel about this? Should the revive policy need a review? Should the person that fired over 2,5 million bullets and devestated so many accounts get a different punishment?
Comment below!
Update:
Prophecy also falls victim to the same bug abuse as it's don got akilled some hours later.
Many people are questioning the motives behind this a-kill, one of the admins had the following to say:
Also some CD's (maybe all of them) from Lusa got demoted to Local Chief, so these accounts took advantage of the bug as well. The bug supposedly is used by more than just Lusa, it's just the fact that the CD's haven't demoted to Bruglione when having an empty regime, since they didn't do any manual action. Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive.
The official revive rule states that people will only get revived if they have been killed within 3 days before the a-kill of their shooter, which for many of the gangsters comes too late.
How do you feel about this? Should the revive policy need a review? Should the person that fired over 2,5 million bullets and devestated so many accounts get a different punishment?
Comment below!
Update:
Prophecy also falls victim to the same bug abuse as it's don got akilled some hours later.
statistics
War started on: 11:18:05 05-12-2014 | War ended on: 12:25:03 05-12-2014 |
Bullet difference: -199,152 | War duration: 1h 6m |
Money difference: -$77,461,349 | Players died: 3 |
deaths
Anonymous (16:57:21 - 05-12)
anonymous at 16:55:22 on 05/12:
+1
PeterPanAirLines at 13:39:04 on 05/12:
we will not revive the accounts he killed but we will discuss a compensation otherwise
this is the respect that Brando gives to who have and still make him rich, revive all and i mean all accounts that Ascii killed then lets talk again about punishment.
also, Ascii catch a bug and abuse of it and you my dear omerta crew cant see a bug? somethings is not clear in my opinion, or click the button and reset the version or let revive all accounts that got killed by him.
we will not revive the accounts he killed but we will discuss a compensation otherwise
this is the respect that Brando gives to who have and still make him rich, revive all and i mean all accounts that Ascii killed then lets talk again about punishment.
also, Ascii catch a bug and abuse of it and you my dear omerta crew cant see a bug? somethings is not clear in my opinion, or click the button and reset the version or let revive all accounts that got killed by him.
+1
+1
Anonymous (16:56:24 - 05-12)
A good leader takes a little more than his share of blame, a little less than his share of credit.
Maybe some people should act to these words..
Maybe some people should act to these words..
anonymous (16:55:22 - 05-12)
PeterPanAirLines at 13:39:04 on 05/12:
we will not revive the accounts he killed but we will discuss a compensation otherwise
this is the respect that Brando gives to who have and still make him rich, revive all and i mean all accounts that Ascii killed then lets talk again about punishment.
also, Ascii catch a bug and abuse of it and you my dear omerta crew cant see a bug? somethings is not clear in my opinion, or click the button and reset the version or let revive all accounts that got killed by him.
we will not revive the accounts he killed but we will discuss a compensation otherwise
this is the respect that Brando gives to who have and still make him rich, revive all and i mean all accounts that Ascii killed then lets talk again about punishment.
also, Ascii catch a bug and abuse of it and you my dear omerta crew cant see a bug? somethings is not clear in my opinion, or click the button and reset the version or let revive all accounts that got killed by him.
+1
Anonymous (16:45:51 - 05-12)
RDnotloggedin at 16:42:08 on 05/12:
There is only one thing sad about this post, it is in fact too smart for the omerta community.
MurderInc at 16:17:19 on 05/12:
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
RDnotloggedin at 16:42:08 on 05/12:
There is only one thing sad about this post, it is in fact too smart for the omerta community.
MurderInc at 16:17:19 on 05/12:
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
true +1
RDnotloggedin (16:42:08 - 05-12)
MurderInc at 16:17:19 on 05/12:
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
Anonymous (16:41:30 - 05-12)
Anonymous at 16:26:34 on 05/12:
+1
MurderInc at 16:17:19 on 05/12:
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
+1
+1
Anonymous (16:39:51 - 05-12)
Haha at 14:57:15 on 05/12:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX10NBpikoI&index=1&list=UUrM-E2OxOamKIJjK_qT_xBA
Turn captions on :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX10NBpikoI&index=1&list=UUrM-E2OxOamKIJjK_qT_xBA
Turn captions on :D
looool
Perfect!
Tibz (16:37:34 - 05-12)
MurderInc at 16:17:19 on 05/12:
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
Anonymous (16:26:34 - 05-12)
MurderInc at 16:17:19 on 05/12:
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
+1
Anonymous (16:19:37 - 05-12)
Redspeert at 16:14:37 on 05/12:
A brug dies more easily than a cdc/GF. You didn't know?
Anonymous at 16:08:36 on 05/12:
"Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive."
They didnt needed the Capodecina status to survive. They were stronger then all other Capodecinas/gf alive even as Brugliones.
"Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive."
They didnt needed the Capodecina status to survive. They were stronger then all other Capodecinas/gf alive even as Brugliones.
A brug dies more easily than a cdc/GF. You didn't know?
That shows how much you know about this game.
The GF/Cdc status don't garantee you shit. I guess you are the ones that are surprised when they see a gf/decina dieing on Brugs backfire. Thats because the status doesnt count that much... more important than that its the account strenght!
They killed capodecinas as brugs already. It was a easy job with their accounts.
MurderInc (16:17:19 - 05-12)
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
Redspeert (16:14:37 - 05-12)
Anonymous at 16:08:36 on 05/12:
"Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive."
They didnt needed the Capodecina status to survive. They were stronger then all other Capodecinas/gf alive even as Brugliones.
"Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive."
They didnt needed the Capodecina status to survive. They were stronger then all other Capodecinas/gf alive even as Brugliones.
A brug dies more easily than a cdc/GF. You didn't know?
Anonymous (16:08:36 - 05-12)
"Thus giving them the account strenght nessecary to survive."
They didnt needed the Capodecina status to survive. They were stronger then all other Capodecinas/gf alive even as Brugliones.
They didnt needed the Capodecina status to survive. They were stronger then all other Capodecinas/gf alive even as Brugliones.
Anonymous (16:07:16 - 05-12)
Anonymous at 13:23:09 on 05/12:
Same shit every version.
Cheaters (whether dupers, bug abusers, scripters others) get akilled towards the end of the version, after they have left an impact on a version.
Then the crew says: "Look we are awesome and actually akilling cheaters."
The killed players: "cry about the useless timing" and return next version.
It's good to keep some routines.
Same shit every version.
Cheaters (whether dupers, bug abusers, scripters others) get akilled towards the end of the version, after they have left an impact on a version.
Then the crew says: "Look we are awesome and actually akilling cheaters."
The killed players: "cry about the useless timing" and return next version.
It's good to keep some routines.
+1
Anonymous (16:04:02 - 05-12)
Nuke at 16:01:18 on 05/12:
Let them jump and do the world a favor. These people are so garbage that they can't distinguish between right and wrong. They think this game is about what they can get away with by not being killed by the admins.
I pity them, but they're beyond help. They're surrounded with so many cheaters that they believe it's a part of the game - I'm talking about duping and boosting (Sending another player all of your money). The admin kills were a backlash caused by duping. Had their accounts been legit, 80 Lusa and Prophecy brugs would not have died so easily. Their overpowered capos would not have had to hide offline to keep from being killed. The fact that they failed miserably while cheating doesn't make it OK either. It's irritating that action is not taken while the boosting is so obvious.
Anonymous at 15:44:08 on 05/12:
Belchi is going insane or IRC, someone who knows him irl should call a doctor, he seems like he's gonna jump
Time to get a real job bro :(
Belchi is going insane or IRC, someone who knows him irl should call a doctor, he seems like he's gonna jump
Time to get a real job bro :(
Let them jump and do the world a favor. These people are so garbage that they can't distinguish between right and wrong. They think this game is about what they can get away with by not being killed by the admins.
I pity them, but they're beyond help. They're surrounded with so many cheaters that they believe it's a part of the game - I'm talking about duping and boosting (Sending another player all of your money). The admin kills were a backlash caused by duping. Had their accounts been legit, 80 Lusa and Prophecy brugs would not have died so easily. Their overpowered capos would not have had to hide offline to keep from being killed. The fact that they failed miserably while cheating doesn't make it OK either. It's irritating that action is not taken while the boosting is so obvious.
hey if you have nothing else going on in your life, wouldn't you want to do the same?
the can be king of an online game! all their dreams came true. They had to cheat to get there, but what else do they live for?
Nuke (16:01:18 - 05-12)
Anonymous at 15:44:08 on 05/12:
Belchi is going insane or IRC, someone who knows him irl should call a doctor, he seems like he's gonna jump
Time to get a real job bro :(
Belchi is going insane or IRC, someone who knows him irl should call a doctor, he seems like he's gonna jump
Time to get a real job bro :(
Let them jump and do the world a favor. These people are so garbage that they can't distinguish between right and wrong. They think this game is about what they can get away with by not being killed by the admins.
I pity them, but they're beyond help. They're surrounded with so many cheaters that they believe it's a part of the game - I'm talking about duping and boosting (Sending another player all of your money - for their benefit, not yours). The admin kills were a backlash from duping/boosting. Had their accounts been legit, 80 Lusa and Prophecy brugs would not have died so easily. Their overpowered capos would not have had to hide offline to keep from being killed. The fact that they failed miserably while cheating doesn't make it OK either. It's irritating that action is not taken while the boosting is so obvious.
Anonymous (15:44:08 - 05-12)
Belchi is going insane or IRC, someone who knows him irl should call a doctor, he seems like he's gonna jump
Time to get a real job bro :(
Time to get a real job bro :(
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
+1