Please restrain yourself from using racial language.

well, look this war, all turkish fams + illu half romanian and half dunno, think if traffi bloods marazz or janni, no more wars then? :D

as far as I know Aeterna was abusing bug those versions, and name is removed from hall of fame list. history lesson 2...

gratz for Traffi, they had a good shot for the title. a good progress but they need to be open minded for Turkish families, making a Turkish blood is not an insult, get over it

think if every fam take 3 blood and stop :) more long version more fun and bla bla :D

Illuanna, Maleficent, and Kurosawa did by only blooding one another, though there was Caliente, who claimed to be as one.. Whatever that means.. also, there were several smaller families who worked with the bigger farms without actually blooding.

Lunchese's "attempt" was not even that. Forming an alliance with Lusa and Righellie and allowing those wings to choose additional bloods is nothing close to challenging. Call the Pact bloods if it helps you sleep at night, but that was nothing but an alliance, much like LSO.

pffff you guys discuss a family that wanted to change things max 3 bloods concept is good but practice is bull shit you think if fams had max 3-4 bloods version will take longer? big bullshit there are not even family ranks or button to put your bloods so you can't help others etc. you still diddint learn how you want longer versions more ranks dumb asses so it will take longer to become the highest rank you really think 3-4 families blood version will go longer MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If you have been 'very close into what happened this version', which is reasonably safe to say highly unlikely since you're commenting anonymous, you would know that in this game every action has a reaction.
It's known for a fact that Aeterna leaked plans of their bloods to Siberia before the first war, plans that mainly involved Empire - but somehow you appear too dumb to grasp that Trafficante was also part of those leaked plans. Meaning that whatever twisted way you might look at it, Aeterna started building distrust towards 'their bloods' and certainly not the other way around.

That being said, the other version you are talking about.. 4.5 - you're again completely wrong on the facts. I highly doubt anyone here is interested in a discussion about that version again but i'll be happy to give you a bief history lesson on irc if you feel like it.

Plenty of families have tried to work with a small number of bloods over the last years. They've all been on the receiving end of a nice gangbang eventually. Sorry, it's not going to happen. It's really the same discussion every version.

People always like to talk about how different this was back in the day. It wasn't. The game was just bigger, making this less of an issue. At the current scale, the results are versions that last between one and two months. Unfortunately it's impossible to change this purely from within the playerbase. Everyone who says this isn't true could use a reality check.

So that leaves us with two options: either make gameplay changes that lead to smaller blood circles and prevent wars that kill off half the active player base, or try to go back to the scale this game had during its peak (in terms of active players).

Trafficante had some golden opportunities the last few days, but they waited to long. Rip Ravi :<.

Now lets stop this squabble and mourn my death.

Eh yeah, no.

I'm not sure if you actually bothered reading what I said or you're just being dense. Anyway, it's your choice if you want to trust us or not, but selling us out in the way you did was about the dumbest thing you could have possibily done. All I see is some guy pointing the finger at the fam they themselves sold out to justify your failures.

But I'm sure you guys, just like last version, will convince yourselves how awesome you are and how it's everybody their fault except your ow-


Oh, never mind.

Feed the troll

Sjaak: Then why didn't more of the smaller families follow the example back in those days? Lucchese tried it and kept their word on 3 bloods. They got gangbanged on the first war. How do you explain this to your members who invested money into their account to buy 1 or more DCs? How many versions and how many money should they invest untill they can have the fun in shooting again? As far as I know only Krays joined Lucchese in their plan, Trafficante didn't either. Why not?

And what happened to lucchese again? ohyes. they got quite an assrape because they tried to keep their bloodlimit low. And who do you expect to let their members get killed in first war gangbangs for 5 versions in a row? I sure as hell would never do that to my members.
I also would like a dreamworld where people would fight on their own. But sadly i'm too realistic to waste my time trying to change it into that dreamworld. I'm a marxist at heart, but that ideologi is unrealistic as well, in the current world, which is why i'm a liberal in nowadays actual politics.

Yeah bro you're right all lies. Half of it is false, right. You guys are good at that. Making others look bad. I'm done defending myself I know my story comes closer to what has really happened this version.

That gangbang that you're talking about happends because people/fams know how strong you are and that they're all used to you blooding many other fams in the top10 from previous versions. I'm just saying the big fams in this game should set an example like Lucchese did try to do. If you continue like that others will follow and versions will get to be more interesting. You're blaming other fams now for how the game currently has been played but this gameplay all started with the biggest fams blooding eachother.

Hey there jackswag, from some of the things i see you write, you seem to have no idea at all about how this game works. Last version i wanted to try only having 2-3 bloods. but guess what, even before we actually blooded anyone, people were preparing a gangbang, so don't just look at the people who blood, look at all the ones who prepare gangbang before the version has really started started. What kind of top are you if you straight out plan to get your members killed in a gangbang before most of them are even brug. Get real niggah, this gameworld is 4 realz. And ceasefires is part of wars, ingames and in real life, it is something both parties agrees to when both parties favor from the ceasefire, from what i've seen no ceasefires have been made this version where it wasn't favorable for both sides, if i'm wrong please correct me.

Saros please,

hes responding to my comment. You guys fucked it up in war1 and you know it. Leaking warplans of Traffi's blood and your own blood. How are we suppose to trust you again? Stop bringing up this Sama situation please. You been used there idd. That Janni would counter on you is something you knew before you started that war. Offcourse Traffi couldnt help you anymore after they started shooting Siberia. You should be strong enough to handle it yourself with your 5/6/7/8(fuck knows how much you had at that point) other bloods. That you used falls rumors to blood them afterwards is in my opinion lame but hey I get it u survived. And you can tell me that I need to get my facts straight. You need to stop lying cause this is the fact.

Try to win with your bloods for once instead of stabbin them in the back first chance you get.
And another suggestion: stop blooding everyone. Just blood 1 or 2 fams with your famsize that seems fair for everyone. The whole game has to adjust to the big2/3 fams who keep blooding eachother and many other fams.

Offtopic:
I think it's really sad to see fams blooding eachother after they almost killed eachother a few days ago. Another poor part of this game: Ceasefire. Are you kidding me? Finish what you've started!

Thumbs up for Trafficante! Saying no to new bloods, who only wanted to use them so Traffi wouldnt revenge there killed blood(s) or pure as tactical blood for that matter.

its not about the bug that family has the best spots

samagono is not krays blood anymore. ;)