OB News - 07-08 Payback

Aart (22:37:50 - 11-08)

Anonymous at 22:28:50 on 11/08:
Hey , do I just need 1 dc or gold donating status to show my kills and bullets shot?

1 is fine, as long as you are a donating member you can enable it at your profile settings. I can advice you not to put 2 dc's active and become a donating+ member since it's one of the most useless additions i've seen in this game.

Anonymous (22:28:50 - 11-08)

Hey , do I just need 1 dc or gold donating status to show my kills and bullets shot?

Nuke

(22:13:37 - 11-08)

Anonymous at 18:29:31 on 11/08:
can we have a new topic already, every version its the same shit - complaining/crying about pacts. some of you come in here ranting about your hate for the top fams working together, as if their opinions will be swayed from some nobody on a news site for a broken game. its never changed and it never will change. so please, stop wasting your time and embarrassing yourselves.

Why should anyone care what an anonymous person thinks? If you can't put your name on it, then your opinion means nothing.

Nuke

(22:11:08 - 11-08)

Anonymous at 12:48:22 on 11/08:
Koolio + Paria + Illuanna + Gallia + Sublime + Zerilli +
Maleficent + Persico + Samagono + Audeamus → Gambino Literary Jannisary
Paria → Equestria
Kurosawa, Caliente, Brada → Zerilli
Koninkrijk + Samagono → Brada

This is the true story

Many of those families were involved, but your matchmaking is incorrect. I did not shoot on the families you matched with mine and I did shoot on another family that you did not match with mine. Please resume your research, check your sources, and try to get the "truth" correct next time.

B|Jack

(20:41:43 - 11-08)

Anonymous at 15:48:26 on 11/08:

Anonymous at 12:48:22 on 11/08:
Koolio + Paria + Illuanna + Gallia + Sublime + Zerilli +
Maleficent + Persico + Samagono + Audeamus → Gambino Literary Jannisary
Paria → Equestria
Kurosawa, Caliente, Brada → Zerilli
Koninkrijk + Samagono → Brada

This is the true story

not true. koolio and paris only shot gambino. Paria only shot Equestria

Twice shooting Gambino and Equestria

Anonymous (18:29:31 - 11-08)

can we have a new topic already, every version its the same shit - complaining/crying about pacts. some of you come in here ranting about your hate for the top fams working together, as if their opinions will be swayed from some nobody on a news site for a broken game. its never changed and it never will change. so please, stop wasting your time and embarrassing yourselves.

Anonymous (15:48:26 - 11-08)

Anonymous at 12:48:22 on 11/08:
Koolio + Paria + Illuanna + Gallia + Sublime + Zerilli +
Maleficent + Persico + Samagono + Audeamus → Gambino Literary Jannisary
Paria → Equestria
Kurosawa, Caliente, Brada → Zerilli
Koninkrijk + Samagono → Brada

This is the true story

not true. koolio and paris only shot gambino. Paria only shot Equestria

Aart (13:07:15 - 11-08)

oh my god who the hell cares;(

Anonymous (12:48:22 - 11-08)

Koolio + Paria + Illuanna + Gallia + Sublime + Zerilli +
Maleficent + Persico + Samagono + Audeamus → Gambino Literary Jannisary
Paria → Equestria
Kurosawa, Caliente, Brada → Zerilli
Koninkrijk + Samagono → Brada

This is the true story

Nuke

(12:08:36 - 11-08)

Solstice at 10:17:23 on 11/08:
We're not whining about the opening war btw, that was awesome. Family's saw an opening and went for it. Was very enjoyable for all of our tops, eventhough we fell short at the end. It's just the selfrighteous bullshit from families that were standing in line to blood us, that's getting old.

That's part of the problem, I guess..

You could say a bigger part of the problem is that 1/3 of the server is blooded in that pact, while another 1/3 (Crusaders) is blooded in another pact, while the remaining 1/3 (Amateurs and Idealists) has no affiliation to one another.

That would be fine, but then we go back to the problem that you addressed. Some people don't like the attitude of one group, so they try to crossover into the other group. That creates the lack of balance. Then, every now and then one of the idealists manages to pick up 5-10 extra rank sluts and becomes a main player. That also tilts the scale.

The best way to handle this is for the Pact and the Crusaders to either pick up everyone else that they can and have one war each server, else limit your bloods to a minimum and wait to see what other groups begin to form.

Solstice (10:17:23 - 11-08)

gode at 09:20:49 on 11/08:
Siberia blooding Lusa & Aeterna is GAY, it is very easy to win with 3 powerhouses (while game is so small those days) Each of them has their supporting cast, like Jannis supporting Lusa, Gambino supporting Siberia etc.

Even with EVERY fam outside that pact shooting, it was a slight win for shooters in 2 wars. So tops of this fams whining here, is bullshit

Yerr, Saros already mentioned this, but we've been sort of best buddies for over a year now, i think. Starting with Theogony for me, they(Lusa) have always been there for us, even when we were midsized and got our butts raped. Siberia is the family we ranked at on .nl, which helped us up our own family on .nl a few times, some of their rankers played with us on .com for a while. We should just give that up, cause our families are getting too succesfull?

About those supporting casts, ours included your family, and they shot our other bloods. Given enough time Jannisary and Gambino would've definitely shot at us otherwise. There's plenty of openings there, you just have to see them.

We're not whining about the opening war btw, that was awesome. Family's saw an opening and went for it. Was very enjoyable for all of our tops, eventhough we fell short at the end. It's just the selfrighteous bullshit from families that were standing in line to blood us, that's getting old.

Saros`away

(09:56:26 - 11-08)

gode at 09:20:49 on 11/08:
Siberia blooding Lusa & Aeterna is GAY, it is very easy to win with 3 powerhouses (while game is so small those days) Each of them has their supporting cast, like Jannis supporting Lusa, Gambino supporting Siberia etc.

Even with EVERY fam outside that pact shooting, it was a slight win for shooters in 2 wars. So tops of this fams whining here, is bullshit

Aren't you the kid that won his little gold star for top killer while he was in Aristocrats, you know, the fam that was blooded to all 3 of us. Not to mention only had the balls to pointlessly suicide a day before reset announcement after his star was already secured?

I'd ridicule your lack of intellect further but you seem to be doing a mighty fine job of that yourself.

@ Spank

I won't go into how those 3 fams are doing their business, but we both know whether they blooded or not, it gives the same result in practice. Also think for a second what kind of 'pacts' you would have created if we had accepted your bloodoffer at the time. I'm not trying to be offensive, since well, I couldn't care less if you were building pacts or not. It's the hypocrisy that oh so many of you, including this gode character just now, blatantly display that's growing to ridiculous levels.

gode

(09:20:49 - 11-08)

Siberia blooding Lusa & Aeterna is GAY, it is very easy to win with 3 powerhouses (while game is so small those days) Each of them has their supporting cast, like Jannis supporting Lusa, Gambino supporting Siberia etc.

Even with EVERY fam outside that pact shooting, it was a slight win for shooters in 2 wars. So tops of this fams whining here, is bullshit

Anonymous (07:05:27 - 11-08)

When you Look at those stats, i would say: Pacts are hated much but can destroyed and forming a pact or TriangleBloody doenst guarantee Succes!!
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1st red war was Alcasty, Ashen, Audeamus, Brada, Empire, Gallia, Iberica, Illuanna, Koninkrijk, Koolio, Kurosawa, Maleficent, Paria, Persico, Samagono, Sublime, Zerilli vs Aeterna, Caliente, Comite, Gambino, Jannisary, Literary, Lusa, Samyo, Siberia

2nd red war was AUDEAMUS, BRADA, Caliente, GALIA, ILLUANNA, KOOLIO, KUROSAWA, MALEFICIENT, PARIA, PERSICIO SAMAGONO, SUBLIME vs Equestria, Gambino, Jannisary, Koninkrijk, Literary, Zerilli
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These vs vs are looking pretty nice to me! Some small families that are fighting hard, side by side with some "bigger" Fams.

For me it looks like the Haters of pacts chose wrong sides of got killed in War #1.

Thanks all for this nice Round

Spank

(01:22:37 - 11-08)

Saros`away at 19:21:03 on 10/08:

darlyopus at 16:52:33 on 10/08:

MurderInc at 16:38:45 on 10/08:

darlyopus at 16:32:38 on 10/08:

Anonymous at 16:22:18 on 10/08:

darlyopus at 15:30:40 on 10/08:
Thanks all attacker fams. We were great.

We surely want to destroy the pact and finally we did it. Spacial thanks to Paria members. We were born from the ashes again! o/

lol pact again ?
1st red war was Alcasty, Ashen, Audeamus, Brada, Empire, Gallia, Iberica, Illuanna, Koninkrijk, Koolio, Kurosawa, Maleficent, Paria, Persico, Samagono, Sublime, Zerilli vs Aeterna, Caliente, Comite, Gambino, Jannisary, Literary, Lusa, Samyo, Siberia

2nd red war was AUDEAMUS, BRADA, Caliente, GALIA, ILLUANNA, KOOLIO, KUROSAWA, MALEFICIENT, PARIA, PERSICIO SAMAGONO, SUBLIME vs Equestria, Gambino, Jannisary, Koninkrijk, Literary, Zerilli

with capital letters i wrote fams that were attackers in first and also in second red war. i also added some fams that were involved in 2nd red war but they arent mentioned. on the other hand gambino janni zerilli were on different sides in 1st war. as you can see from 12 attackers 11 already shot together in 1st war. and you still talk about pact(s) ? i understand attackers arent blooded to eachothers but what makes u thinking that gambino janni zerilli were a pact ? i guess every fam that doesnt want to shoot together with you is in pact or what ?

There is one pact that we constantly mentioned about and this is Lusa/Aeterna. Eh, Gambino, Equestria (or siberia? lol) and Janni was close to pact (i mean Lusa, Aeterna side). And with this war, we clean up them. So?

I think his point was that crying about a pact when you're in fact shooting with what equals to more than half the highranks in the game on your side in two wars is ... well ... kind of hypocritical.

I tell u why half the highranks are in our side while there is two wars... Because we hate your style. :)

Your ignorance amuses me.

You talk about a Aeterna/Lusa pact? So even 2 fams working together is considered a pact these days? That's, you know, kinda weird.

But allow me to explain it to you, Aeterna/Lusa/Siberia were blooded, which you can consider a pact if you want but fact is that triangle bloodship have always existed. The fun part is that Koolio/Paria/Empire build the exact same thing, which means, according to your own logic, that you're a pact too. Which makes your whole ''herpaderp we're so anti-pact lolol'' tirade hilarous.

Also I really hate to burst your bubble even further (I don't) but Paria asked us (Aeterna) for bloods aswell, so yeah... I kinda doubt you guys 'hate' our 'style' as much as you claim you do.

Hey my dear friend Saros`away,

I know that you don't like when people call you as 'pact'. But since you accepted that you have 'triangle bloodship', I think you shouldn't have been mad when people called you as 'pact', please do not offense with me. And let me give you another fix: Empire and Koolio weren't bloods so you can't call Paria/Koolio/Empire as in same situation with you.

I always tried to play against pacts since my days in Krays, and I don't think that darlyopus targetted you with special hate, he just got misunderstood.

For finally, yes, it's true we offered Aeterna to be bloods. It's just because I have my dear friend Johnx there who I worked together in Krays.

I still respect Lusa/Aeterna/Siberia, you did great, that was your decide when you refused my blooding offer and please do not offense at each us since we all have done what we had to do. I hope we can work together in future versions.

Spank,
from Paria.

Nuke

(00:34:49 - 11-08)

Saros`away at 23:25:20 on 10/08:

Ofcourse we had a few additional bloods, you know what happens if we don't?

You get the entire server on 3 families because they have little to back them up. This game is about strategy, tactics and politics, we wouldn't be much of a 'professional' family if we didn't cover our backs. This was the same shit as when Lucchese & Righelli were playing and tried to downsize the amount of bloods a few versions ago.

However, I agree that the first war this version was one of the best I've seen in a long time, neither having to rape of getting raped. It just amuses me that people tend to go full-retard mode in here because they won a battle for once, without properely realizing how they got there or even what they were fighting against.

For other families having less actives, that isn't something you can blame on us. You can look at how Omerta itself is nowadays for that.

Sadly, I think you just hit the bottom line. The group with the most shooters wins. This isn't much of a skill game because the number of accounts that one can kill, considered with the time it takes to reach the point being able to survive maximum backfire, is so limited.

I guess it's easy to overlook the key to this game.. To get others to commit to your cause. Still, it's not much fun if there aren't multiple competitive groups.

Saros`away

(23:35:28 - 10-08)

Anonymous at 23:29:21 on 10/08:

Saros`away at 23:25:20 on 10/08:

Nuke at 22:20:31 on 10/08:

Saros`away at 20:24:05 on 10/08:

Anonymous at 19:43:31 on 10/08:
Well, its not so hard to explain haha

When there are big-Highrank-Fams working together like Lusa and Siberia or other major fams. Then the more little fams need to work together to shoot them down.

Thats all not so difficult is it guys :D

So no problem with pacts or bloods or so,, but if the top 3 or 4 fams are creating a pact then its logical that they have to fight with a lot more fams.

If youre a Top of a Top Fam than havings bloods is OK but i would say Work together with smaller fams and not with only the greatest

Awesome Wars BTW

And what most of you don't seem to get, either because you're new or have the longterm memory of a retarded goldfish, is that size has nothing to do with it. Aeterna has worked with Lusa for pretty much the entirety of 4.x. Aeterna/Lusa has worked with Siberia when they were still on .nl for about the same amount of time. Sometimes different family names but always the same tops.

We couldn't care less about eachothers dick size, neither Aeterna, Lusa or Siberia were always the biggest and the reason their playerbase grew to what they have now is because of sheer success. So what do you expect us to say? "I know we always worked good together, but we can't work with you anymore because you used to be #20 and now you're #1 lolbye"?

That smaller fams would have to work together to take us down was obvious from the start and nobody is complaining about it, you can't win them all. But some of you guys in here need get off your little high horses and need to realize, that for all your anti-pact nonsense, you're basically trying to do the exact same thing.

On my part, the frustration wasn't so much those three families working together.. It was more the fact that the pact also worked with families like Templari, Caliente, Gambino.. they always had another two top 10 families shooting for their cause. It was nearly impossible to overcome that many high ranks who were always so active.

At some point, you have to do the way that Pact did this server and limit yourself to only 3 or 4 families on your side to make it a challenge. This is the best server since I've been back simply because there were not 200 brugs working together against 75-100 brugs, whith only 25-40 of those brugs being active in wars.

Despite the actual number of brugs and chiefs in a family, a small family like mine is doing pretty well if we can get 7-10 of our brugs to hire detectives in a war. Usually it's more like 3-5, unless it just happens at a great time of the year when almost everyone is online and does not have to work the next day.

There was no reason that an attacking family like Zerilli and their bloods should have only been able to kill 11 of 30 brugs before they had to go offline and hide. Still, that's usually the case. The less "professional" families are much more limited and can only hope to use 50% of their brugs as decoys.

Ofcourse we had a few additional bloods, you know what happens if we don't?

You get the entire server on 3 families because they have little to back them up. This game is about strategy, tactics and politics, we wouldn't be much of a 'professional' family if we didn't cover our backs. This was the same shit as when Lucchese & Righelli were playing and tried to downsize the amount of bloods a few versions ago.

However, I agree that the first war this version was one of the best I've seen in a long time, neither having to rape of getting raped. It just amuses me that people tend to go full-retard mode in here because they won a battle for once, without properely realizing how they got there or even what they were fighting against.

For other families having less actives, that isn't something you can blame on us. You can look at how Omerta itself is nowadays for that.

With his batman voice, quick to the cheat mobile!

Sadly out of service.

Anonymous (23:29:21 - 10-08)

Saros`away at 23:25:20 on 10/08:

Nuke at 22:20:31 on 10/08:

Saros`away at 20:24:05 on 10/08:

Anonymous at 19:43:31 on 10/08:
Well, its not so hard to explain haha

When there are big-Highrank-Fams working together like Lusa and Siberia or other major fams. Then the more little fams need to work together to shoot them down.

Thats all not so difficult is it guys :D

So no problem with pacts or bloods or so,, but if the top 3 or 4 fams are creating a pact then its logical that they have to fight with a lot more fams.

If youre a Top of a Top Fam than havings bloods is OK but i would say Work together with smaller fams and not with only the greatest

Awesome Wars BTW

And what most of you don't seem to get, either because you're new or have the longterm memory of a retarded goldfish, is that size has nothing to do with it. Aeterna has worked with Lusa for pretty much the entirety of 4.x. Aeterna/Lusa has worked with Siberia when they were still on .nl for about the same amount of time. Sometimes different family names but always the same tops.

We couldn't care less about eachothers dick size, neither Aeterna, Lusa or Siberia were always the biggest and the reason their playerbase grew to what they have now is because of sheer success. So what do you expect us to say? "I know we always worked good together, but we can't work with you anymore because you used to be #20 and now you're #1 lolbye"?

That smaller fams would have to work together to take us down was obvious from the start and nobody is complaining about it, you can't win them all. But some of you guys in here need get off your little high horses and need to realize, that for all your anti-pact nonsense, you're basically trying to do the exact same thing.

On my part, the frustration wasn't so much those three families working together.. It was more the fact that the pact also worked with families like Templari, Caliente, Gambino.. they always had another two top 10 families shooting for their cause. It was nearly impossible to overcome that many high ranks who were always so active.

At some point, you have to do the way that Pact did this server and limit yourself to only 3 or 4 families on your side to make it a challenge. This is the best server since I've been back simply because there were not 200 brugs working together against 75-100 brugs, whith only 25-40 of those brugs being active in wars.

Despite the actual number of brugs and chiefs in a family, a small family like mine is doing pretty well if we can get 7-10 of our brugs to hire detectives in a war. Usually it's more like 3-5, unless it just happens at a great time of the year when almost everyone is online and does not have to work the next day.

There was no reason that an attacking family like Zerilli and their bloods should have only been able to kill 11 of 30 brugs before they had to go offline and hide. Still, that's usually the case. The less "professional" families are much more limited and can only hope to use 50% of their brugs as decoys.

Ofcourse we had a few additional bloods, you know what happens if we don't?

You get the entire server on 3 families because they have little to back them up. This game is about strategy, tactics and politics, we wouldn't be much of a 'professional' family if we didn't cover our backs. This was the same shit as when Lucchese & Righelli were playing and tried to downsize the amount of bloods a few versions ago.

However, I agree that the first war this version was one of the best I've seen in a long time, neither having to rape of getting raped. It just amuses me that people tend to go full-retard mode in here because they won a battle for once, without properely realizing how they got there or even what they were fighting against.

For other families having less actives, that isn't something you can blame on us. You can look at how Omerta itself is nowadays for that.

With his batman voice, quick to the cheat mobile!

Saros`away

(23:25:20 - 10-08)

Nuke at 22:20:31 on 10/08:

Saros`away at 20:24:05 on 10/08:

Anonymous at 19:43:31 on 10/08:
Well, its not so hard to explain haha

When there are big-Highrank-Fams working together like Lusa and Siberia or other major fams. Then the more little fams need to work together to shoot them down.

Thats all not so difficult is it guys :D

So no problem with pacts or bloods or so,, but if the top 3 or 4 fams are creating a pact then its logical that they have to fight with a lot more fams.

If youre a Top of a Top Fam than havings bloods is OK but i would say Work together with smaller fams and not with only the greatest

Awesome Wars BTW

And what most of you don't seem to get, either because you're new or have the longterm memory of a retarded goldfish, is that size has nothing to do with it. Aeterna has worked with Lusa for pretty much the entirety of 4.x. Aeterna/Lusa has worked with Siberia when they were still on .nl for about the same amount of time. Sometimes different family names but always the same tops.

We couldn't care less about eachothers dick size, neither Aeterna, Lusa or Siberia were always the biggest and the reason their playerbase grew to what they have now is because of sheer success. So what do you expect us to say? "I know we always worked good together, but we can't work with you anymore because you used to be #20 and now you're #1 lolbye"?

That smaller fams would have to work together to take us down was obvious from the start and nobody is complaining about it, you can't win them all. But some of you guys in here need get off your little high horses and need to realize, that for all your anti-pact nonsense, you're basically trying to do the exact same thing.

On my part, the frustration wasn't so much those three families working together.. It was more the fact that the pact also worked with families like Templari, Caliente, Gambino.. they always had another two top 10 families shooting for their cause. It was nearly impossible to overcome that many high ranks who were always so active.

At some point, you have to do the way that Pact did this server and limit yourself to only 3 or 4 families on your side to make it a challenge. This is the best server since I've been back simply because there were not 200 brugs working together against 75-100 brugs, whith only 25-40 of those brugs being active in wars.

Despite the actual number of brugs and chiefs in a family, a small family like mine is doing pretty well if we can get 7-10 of our brugs to hire detectives in a war. Usually it's more like 3-5, unless it just happens at a great time of the year when almost everyone is online and does not have to work the next day.

There was no reason that an attacking family like Zerilli and their bloods should have only been able to kill 11 of 30 brugs before they had to go offline and hide. Still, that's usually the case. The less "professional" families are much more limited and can only hope to use 50% of their brugs as decoys.

Ofcourse we had a few additional bloods, you know what happens if we don't?

You get the entire server on 3 families because they have little to back them up. This game is about strategy, tactics and politics, we wouldn't be much of a 'professional' family if we didn't cover our backs. This was the same shit as when Lucchese & Righelli were playing and tried to downsize the amount of bloods a few versions ago.

However, I agree that the first war this version was one of the best I've seen in a long time, neither having to rape of getting raped. It just amuses me that people tend to go full-retard mode in here because they won a battle for once, without properely realizing how they got there or even what they were fighting against.

For other families having less actives, that isn't something you can blame on us. You can look at how Omerta itself is nowadays for that.

Nuke

(22:20:31 - 10-08)

Saros`away at 20:24:05 on 10/08:

Anonymous at 19:43:31 on 10/08:
Well, its not so hard to explain haha

When there are big-Highrank-Fams working together like Lusa and Siberia or other major fams. Then the more little fams need to work together to shoot them down.

Thats all not so difficult is it guys :D

So no problem with pacts or bloods or so,, but if the top 3 or 4 fams are creating a pact then its logical that they have to fight with a lot more fams.

If youre a Top of a Top Fam than havings bloods is OK but i would say Work together with smaller fams and not with only the greatest

Awesome Wars BTW

And what most of you don't seem to get, either because you're new or have the longterm memory of a retarded goldfish, is that size has nothing to do with it. Aeterna has worked with Lusa for pretty much the entirety of 4.x. Aeterna/Lusa has worked with Siberia when they were still on .nl for about the same amount of time. Sometimes different family names but always the same tops.

We couldn't care less about eachothers dick size, neither Aeterna, Lusa or Siberia were always the biggest and the reason their playerbase grew to what they have now is because of sheer success. So what do you expect us to say? "I know we always worked good together, but we can't work with you anymore because you used to be #20 and now you're #1 lolbye"?

That smaller fams would have to work together to take us down was obvious from the start and nobody is complaining about it, you can't win them all. But some of you guys in here need get off your little high horses and need to realize, that for all your anti-pact nonsense, you're basically trying to do the exact same thing.

On my part, the frustration wasn't so much those three families working together.. It was more the fact that the pact also worked with families like Templari, Caliente, Gambino.. they always had another two top 10 families shooting for their cause. It was nearly impossible to overcome that many high ranks who were always so active.

At some point, you have to do the way that Pact did this server and limit yourself to only 3 or 4 families on your side to make it a challenge. This is the best server since I've been back simply because there were not 200 brugs working together against 75-100 brugs, whith only 25-40 of those brugs being active in wars.

Despite the actual number of brugs and chiefs in a family, a small family like mine is doing pretty well if we can get 7-10 of our brugs to hire detectives in a war. Usually it's more like 3-5, unless it just happens at a great time of the year when almost everyone is online and does not have to work the next day.

There was no reason that an attacking family like Zerilli and their bloods should have only been able to kill 11 of 30 brugs before they had to go offline and hide. Still, that's usually the case. The less "professional" families are much more limited and can only hope to use 50% of their brugs as decoys.