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Yesterday the new KA patch got released and a massacre started! People killed, people died, people survived and people ate popcorn.
How do you like this new KA patch?
How do you like this new KA patch?
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Plopmunker (21:32:31 - 13-08)
Man, If they change KA ONE MORE TIME MID-GAME I WILL CRACK......... 4.1 and it still should be called a beta ........... No one ever likes KA duh? But JeeeeeeeeZ you can't wait for 400 accounts to die then be like, damn , maybe we should fix the KA...
boesmans at 14:41:58 on 13/08:
do you know your attacker's bg setup ? seems thats rly important.
@anon: ppl get rich by poker or by selling DCs on obay, not by bulletmoney. Besides, no need to be active to get BM.
update your stats regularly does the trick
Jaketherude at 14:23:39 on 13/08:
It might be true, that you shouldn't trust, what they say at IRC, but so far it fits quite right with my experience. I had a weak account without any groupcrimes, and it got shot by a stronger account, which survived. It might have been the bullets, but perhaps the lack of groupcrimes was part of it too - only the admins surely knows. So far, I think the KA has turned out according to what I heard/read. It's gonna be interesting to see, if they managed to prevent invincible accounts as they claimed, but to know that it will require, that people actually rerank and not just give up...
boesmans at 14:16:43 on 13/08:
in which newspost do you read that?
i wouldn't trust admins on irc tho. they told me yesterday killing an assa+ gives KS, when actually it's LC+. i killed an assa... yey
Jaketherude at 14:12:37 on 13/08:
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
Jaketherude at 13:58:06 on 13/08:
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
i wouldn't trust admins on irc tho. they told me yesterday killing an assa+ gives KS, when actually it's LC+. i killed an assa... yey
It might be true, that you shouldn't trust, what they say at IRC, but so far it fits quite right with my experience. I had a weak account without any groupcrimes, and it got shot by a stronger account, which survived. It might have been the bullets, but perhaps the lack of groupcrimes was part of it too - only the admins surely knows. So far, I think the KA has turned out according to what I heard/read. It's gonna be interesting to see, if they managed to prevent invincible accounts as they claimed, but to know that it will require, that people actually rerank and not just give up...
do you know your attacker's bg setup ? seems thats rly important.
@anon: ppl get rich by poker or by selling DCs on obay, not by bulletmoney. Besides, no need to be active to get BM.
update your stats regularly does the trick
groupcrimes DO matter :)
Aart (15:17:29 - 13-08)
herpaderp.
it's fine, just read the newsposts about the KA, everything is explained there and quite spot on imo.
it's fine, just read the newsposts about the KA, everything is explained there and quite spot on imo.
Jaketherude at 14:23:39 on 13/08:
It might be true, that you shouldn't trust, what they say at IRC, but so far it fits quite right with my experience. I had a weak account without any groupcrimes, and it got shot by a stronger account, which survived. It might have been the bullets, but perhaps the lack of groupcrimes was part of it too - only the admins surely knows. So far, I think the KA has turned out according to what I heard/read. It's gonna be interesting to see, if they managed to prevent invincible accounts as they claimed, but to know that it will require, that people actually rerank and not just give up...
boesmans at 14:16:43 on 13/08:
in which newspost do you read that?
i wouldn't trust admins on irc tho. they told me yesterday killing an assa+ gives KS, when actually it's LC+. i killed an assa... yey
Jaketherude at 14:12:37 on 13/08:
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
Jaketherude at 13:58:06 on 13/08:
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
i wouldn't trust admins on irc tho. they told me yesterday killing an assa+ gives KS, when actually it's LC+. i killed an assa... yey
It might be true, that you shouldn't trust, what they say at IRC, but so far it fits quite right with my experience. I had a weak account without any groupcrimes, and it got shot by a stronger account, which survived. It might have been the bullets, but perhaps the lack of groupcrimes was part of it too - only the admins surely knows. So far, I think the KA has turned out according to what I heard/read. It's gonna be interesting to see, if they managed to prevent invincible accounts as they claimed, but to know that it will require, that people actually rerank and not just give up...
do you know your attacker's bg setup ? seems thats rly important.
@anon: ppl get rich by poker or by selling DCs on obay, not by bulletmoney. Besides, no need to be active to get BM.
update your stats regularly does the trick
Anonymous (14:36:03 - 13-08)
Anonymous at 14:32:32 on 13/08:
That might also be to clarify it again, you know how those urban legends about how the KA tend to stick. I am sure some people still believe and will believe in the next few version that tiredness is a factor.
Or it could mean, they considered coding it in, but dropped the idea again, because it is just horrible.
Anonymous at 14:24:22 on 13/08:
They also said that activity having an impact on the KA was removed months if not years ago.
Yet it pops up in the new KA post as a change.
Anonymous at 14:21:39 on 13/08:
But to get enough money as you put it you need to be active. Do Group crimes, show some effort to get some bulletmoney from your fam etc.
Also group crimes do play a part in KA, they said it would in one of the newspost.
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
But to get enough money as you put it you need to be active. Do Group crimes, show some effort to get some bulletmoney from your fam etc.
Also group crimes do play a part in KA, they said it would in one of the newspost.
They also said that activity having an impact on the KA was removed months if not years ago.
Yet it pops up in the new KA post as a change.
That might also be to clarify it again, you know how those urban legends about how the KA tend to stick. I am sure some people still believe and will believe in the next few version that tiredness is a factor.
Or it could mean, they considered coding it in, but dropped the idea again, because it is just horrible.
Or they never removed it at all and people didnt notice as much since everyone fulltime lackeys thus has a severely tired account most of the time.
Anonymous (14:32:32 - 13-08)
Anonymous at 14:24:22 on 13/08:
They also said that activity having an impact on the KA was removed months if not years ago.
Yet it pops up in the new KA post as a change.
Anonymous at 14:21:39 on 13/08:
But to get enough money as you put it you need to be active. Do Group crimes, show some effort to get some bulletmoney from your fam etc.
Also group crimes do play a part in KA, they said it would in one of the newspost.
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
But to get enough money as you put it you need to be active. Do Group crimes, show some effort to get some bulletmoney from your fam etc.
Also group crimes do play a part in KA, they said it would in one of the newspost.
They also said that activity having an impact on the KA was removed months if not years ago.
Yet it pops up in the new KA post as a change.
That might also be to clarify it again, you know how those urban legends about how the KA tend to stick. I am sure some people still believe and will believe in the next few version that tiredness is a factor.
Or it could mean, they considered coding it in, but dropped the idea again, because it is just horrible.
Anonymous (14:24:22 - 13-08)
Anonymous at 14:21:39 on 13/08:
But to get enough money as you put it you need to be active. Do Group crimes, show some effort to get some bulletmoney from your fam etc.
Also group crimes do play a part in KA, they said it would in one of the newspost.
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
But to get enough money as you put it you need to be active. Do Group crimes, show some effort to get some bulletmoney from your fam etc.
Also group crimes do play a part in KA, they said it would in one of the newspost.
They also said that activity having an impact on the KA was removed months if not years ago.
Yet it pops up in the new KA post as a change.
boesmans at 14:16:43 on 13/08:
in which newspost do you read that?
i wouldn't trust admins on irc tho. they told me yesterday killing an assa+ gives KS, when actually it's LC+. i killed an assa... yey
Jaketherude at 14:12:37 on 13/08:
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
Jaketherude at 13:58:06 on 13/08:
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
i wouldn't trust admins on irc tho. they told me yesterday killing an assa+ gives KS, when actually it's LC+. i killed an assa... yey
It might be true, that you shouldn't trust, what they say at IRC, but so far it fits quite right with my experience. I had a weak account without any groupcrimes, and it got shot by a stronger account, which survived. It might have been the bullets, but perhaps the lack of groupcrimes was part of it too - only the admins surely knows. So far, I think the KA has turned out according to what I heard/read. It's gonna be interesting to see, if they managed to prevent invincible accounts as they claimed, but to know that it will require, that people actually rerank and not just give up...
Anonymous (14:21:39 - 13-08)
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
But to get enough money as you put it you need to be active. Do Group crimes, show some effort to get some bulletmoney from your fam etc.
Also group crimes do play a part in KA, they said it would in one of the newspost.
Jaketherude at 14:12:37 on 13/08:
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
Jaketherude at 13:58:06 on 13/08:
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
i wouldn't trust admins on irc tho. they told me yesterday killing an assa+ gives KS, when actually it's LC+. i killed an assa... yey
boesmans at 14:08:18 on 13/08:
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
Jaketherude at 13:58:06 on 13/08:
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
According to admins, then group crimes as well count in the KA, which makes sense, since I might have done 10-15 (incl. heists and raids) in total and was killed without BF.
Jaketherude at 13:58:06 on 13/08:
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
how is that? with enough money, turning on lackeys(including sluggs) will give you a strong account...
then its all coming down to training bg's.
don't need a lot of time for that
The KA seems fair. I had a weak account (haven't really played much in this version besides losing money in poker) and got shot by a way better brug without bf-kill even though I had full bg setup with around 50%/50% in att/def. That seemed quite fair, since I shouldn't be able to kill a way stronger account in backfire, if it's shooting with full bg setup. I might have survived, if I had tweaked it a bit against defense, but that's what happens, when you have no idea of how the KA is tweaked.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
The stronger accounts in my family survived attacks and backfire, which is fair - a really strong account shouldn't just be a piece of cake to kill, since you then remove the incentives to work for your account. This KA gives an advantage to those willing to spent time working on their account, hence it actually encourage people to do something with their accounts and not just turn on lackeys and then come back 3 weeks later. So if you have worked hard with your account, you will be rewarded. Fair imo.
Anonymous (13:00:24 - 13-08)
Defender friendly..not really.
It's strong account friendly for sure. I have a above average account and so far have had good success against accounts with less RP and alot of less bullets in stock. My friends with average accounts struggled against stronger accounts, failed and died in backfire. This KA really does reward good players with good bodyguards.
Btw, I also have seen some fams complain about getting killed in backfire while they were on 4 attack. Sigh.
I do hope that we get a little more information about what has changed in the newspost.
It's strong account friendly for sure. I have a above average account and so far have had good success against accounts with less RP and alot of less bullets in stock. My friends with average accounts struggled against stronger accounts, failed and died in backfire. This KA really does reward good players with good bodyguards.
Btw, I also have seen some fams complain about getting killed in backfire while they were on 4 attack. Sigh.
I do hope that we get a little more information about what has changed in the newspost.
I thought the whole patch itself wasn't out yet? But yea the KA itself is good
now the only ones who will rank is ppl that use real money :D