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16-01 You reap what you sow
Author: sbanks
Last updated: 4110d 10h 11m 21s ago by Smul
Comments: 202
Views: 70,377
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Version: 3.52
Involved families: Cannabis, Catania, Cristeria, Favians, Leone, Lucchese, Marazzino, Nazdrovia, Righelli, Rogero, Targaryens, Trafficante, Troy, Valerio, Volontario, Wargasm, Audacia, Darkness, Inizio, Prospero, Silentium, Vedici
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The ISPP alliance (Audacia, Darkness, Inizio, Prospero, Silentium, Vedici) is being attacked by a large number of families.

In the first wave of the attackers we saw 50 new deaths, with only a few backfire kills. Barafranca only let us log the last 20 names of the deaths, so we missed out 30 names! We try to get all those names updated asap. -> All should be updated now, if u see 1 i missed, leave a message. During this one statistics page update there were already nearly 10 million bullets lost.

The targets seem to be divided like this :
LuccheseDarkness
Marazzino/Troy/Targaryens + NazdroviaProspero
Favians + Trafficante/Pistoleros + Catania + Volontario + Valerio/RogeroInizio
Wargasm/CannabisVedici
Righelli + Cristeria + LeoneAudacia & Silentium
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ReBorN (Lucchese): Lets get the most important item out of the way first - Lucchese was not blooded to the ISPP alliance. We played a very small part in this war and the ONLY reason we participated is because we had logs showing that ISPP intended to shoot some of our Bloods soon, and then turn their guns on us eventually.

Of course our first choice would not have been to shoot against ISPP as we shot together a few times already this version but we will not be used as a puppet and then thrown away later when there is no more need for us.

As far as ISPP "saving our asses" this is simply not true. You can spin it however you want but the simple fact remains that Lucchese's BLOODS are the reason we are still alive. Only our Bloods prevented us from going down in the war on 11-01. As a matter of fact, the war on 10-01 had nothing to do with Lucchese. We were dragged into a war with Pentagram because of a poor choice by a blood and ISPP. We did what we had to do because a Blood was in danger so we helped to shoot Pentagram.

If ISPP feels they "saved our ass" on 11-01 then they were obviously only repaying the favor from 10-01 when we saved their asses. But ofc, we really think ISPP and Lucchese didnt owe each other anything.

/q sbanks | #beyond.info
statistics
War started on: 18:59:00 16-01-2013 War ended on: 12:01:01 17-01-2013
Bullet difference: -33,102,298 War duration: 17h 2m
Money difference: -$2,651,063,384 Players died: 321




deaths
Dead Families:
[Inizio] Family down on 09:00 17-01
[Audacia] Family down on 07:37 17-01
[Silentium] Family down on 03:05 17-01
[Vedici] Family down on 02:07 17-01
[Prospero] Family down on 01:33 17-01
[Darkness] Family down on 19:07 16-01
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Audacia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 5 | chief: 9 | brug: 22 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 383
Cannabis | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Catania | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 3 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 57
Cristeria | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Darkness | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 3 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 112
Inizio | swin: 3 | assa: 2 | lc: 3 | chief: 12 | brug: 36 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 592
Leone | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 8
Lucchese | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Marazzino | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 2 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 52
Nazdrovia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Prospero | swin: 1 | assa: 3 | lc: 5 | chief: 11 | brug: 43 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 720
Righelli | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 130
Silentium | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 3 | brug: 17 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 247
Trafficante | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 16
Troy | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 8
Vedici | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 7 | brug: 28 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 425
Volontario | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 2
Wargasm | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Total | swin: 7 | assa: 7 | lc: 19 | chief: 50 | brug: 175 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 2,843
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sbanks Guatemala (20:12:32 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 20:03:45 on 16/01:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lucchese didn't even shoot 1 bullet at ISPP?

Lucchese shot down Darkness, who was a part of ISPP
Anonymous (20:11:50 - 16-01)
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Space at 19:58:58 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

okay... do u get the big picture? You think that maraz and co were not on the same side as ISPP at that moment? Without ISPP interfering lucchese would have been down as the attackers in that war had the advantage. Which thus means that Maraz/catania/righelli would have suffered alot in that fight and probably had to deal with much more families that got downed without ISPP interfering.

But instead ISPP shot the way clear for the families mentioned above (they lost less highranks, didnt have to use as much bullets) and these highranks and bullets are released on ISPP tonight.

In other words ISPP did help Lucchese and did help all the families mentioned above, if you get the bigger picture ofcourse.

Space... Read the wartopic. ISPP didn't shoot for Lucchese that war, they shot Provenzano who was shooting at their blood Gravano.

Lucchese was attacked by other families: Snatch, Purgatory alliance, Psycho alliance. If these families attacked alone on Lucchese in a different wartopic, you would have seen then exact same war and same families would jump.

Provenzano didn't shoot Lucchese, they shot at Gravano.

If I have to follow your indirect connections: Turkuz died last version because Anadolu didn't attack Oblivions alliance. Because if Oblivions would have been shot by Anadolu, Turkuz wouldn't have been attacked.



In short: ISPP shot for their blood. So did Maraz / Righelli / Catania that war.
Anonymous (20:11:43 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 20:03:45 on 16/01:
Space at 19:58:58 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

okay... do u get the big picture? You think that maraz and co were not on the same side as ISPP at that moment? Without ISPP interfering lucchese would have been down as the attackers in that war had the advantage. Which thus means that Maraz/catania/righelli would have suffered alot in that fight and probably had to deal with much more families that got downed without ISPP interfering.

But instead ISPP shot the way clear for the families mentioned above (they lost less highranks, didnt have to use as much bullets) and these highranks and bullets are released on ISPP tonight.

In other words ISPP did help Lucchese and did help all the families mentioned above, if you get the bigger picture ofcourse.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lucchese didn't even shoot 1 bullet at ISPP?

Ah yeah, that's right, Darkness isn't part of ispp #fail
Space (20:08:57 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 20:03:45 on 16/01:
Space at 19:58:58 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

okay... do u get the big picture? You think that maraz and co were not on the same side as ISPP at that moment? Without ISPP interfering lucchese would have been down as the attackers in that war had the advantage. Which thus means that Maraz/catania/righelli would have suffered alot in that fight and probably had to deal with much more families that got downed without ISPP interfering.

But instead ISPP shot the way clear for the families mentioned above (they lost less highranks, didnt have to use as much bullets) and these highranks and bullets are released on ISPP tonight.

In other words ISPP did help Lucchese and did help all the families mentioned above, if you get the bigger picture ofcourse.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lucchese didn't even shoot 1 bullet at ISPP?

Not that war no because ISPP was helping lucchese and the rest to get rid of the attacking families.

In that war ISPP had bloods on both sides.
Anonymous (20:08:24 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 20:03:45 on 16/01:
Space at 19:58:58 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

okay... do u get the big picture? You think that maraz and co were not on the same side as ISPP at that moment? Without ISPP interfering lucchese would have been down as the attackers in that war had the advantage. Which thus means that Maraz/catania/righelli would have suffered alot in that fight and probably had to deal with much more families that got downed without ISPP interfering.

But instead ISPP shot the way clear for the families mentioned above (they lost less highranks, didnt have to use as much bullets) and these highranks and bullets are released on ISPP tonight.

In other words ISPP did help Lucchese and did help all the families mentioned above, if you get the bigger picture ofcourse.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lucchese didn't even shoot 1 bullet at ISPP?

they shot more than 1 bullet ;)
Anonymous (20:04:34 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 20:00:51 on 16/01:
CojoW at 19:55:04 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

I entrusted the persons i thought were trustworthy. Seemed harsh to me that some fams would lie to either me or Messina. It bothers me that there were classified information given to some of the attacking fams, which they could use to avoid some real danger. Instead they went to the opposing side and joined forces to eliminate ISPP.

At least now I know who to trust and who to never trust again.

Btw, weve been on .com for a long time now m8's. Did y'all forget Quirites and in my case Marangello ?


Dude, you come to .com, the first thing you do is backstab us (Pentagram). We were blooded to you and you stabbed us, lucchese aint even blooded to you.

You guys were whining at us for the way we played last version with 6 fams in 1 alliance. You just did the same, 6 fams in 1 alliance. The big difference is: You had even more brugs than we did last version.

150 brugs, you can and are supposed to lock a version with 150 brugs, you want to lock it with 600++ brugs and 15++ fams.


Why would you look only at lucchese anyways, imo they only play a small part in this war. Seems like 12 other fams also didn't like you

Anyways for the neutral ones this is a nice action, it prevends a total lock down of the version
Anonymous (20:03:45 - 16-01)
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Space at 19:58:58 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

okay... do u get the big picture? You think that maraz and co were not on the same side as ISPP at that moment? Without ISPP interfering lucchese would have been down as the attackers in that war had the advantage. Which thus means that Maraz/catania/righelli would have suffered alot in that fight and probably had to deal with much more families that got downed without ISPP interfering.

But instead ISPP shot the way clear for the families mentioned above (they lost less highranks, didnt have to use as much bullets) and these highranks and bullets are released on ISPP tonight.

In other words ISPP did help Lucchese and did help all the families mentioned above, if you get the bigger picture ofcourse.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lucchese didn't even shoot 1 bullet at ISPP?
Anonymous (20:02:31 - 16-01)
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Space at 19:58:58 on 16/01:
Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

okay... do u get the big picture? You think that maraz and co were not on the same side as ISPP at that moment? Without ISPP interfering lucchese would have been down as the attackers in that war had the advantage. Which thus means that Maraz/catania/righelli would have suffered alot in that fight and probably had to deal with much more families that got downed without ISPP interfering.

But instead ISPP shot the way clear for the families mentioned above (they lost less highranks, didnt have to use as much bullets) and these highranks and bullets are released on ISPP tonight.

In other words ISPP did help Lucchese and did help all the families mentioned above, if you get the bigger picture ofcourse.
That big picture anyone can paint however they like it, so screw that propaganda ;)
reveal Turkey (20:01:47 - 16-01)
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@Smitzer You told us that you are 'puppet' ; in this case you were not puppet of 'lucchese' please tell me. It must not call puppet or useless blood or selling. It always calls 'dishonorable' or not, got it ? Next time recpect your bloods if you wrote and called them blood or as like that.

As a result, i want to say a proverb which1 is turkish ;
what goes around comes around from that..
Rip all who died anyway;). o/
Anonymous (20:00:51 - 16-01)
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CojoW at 19:55:04 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

I entrusted the persons i thought were trustworthy. Seemed harsh to me that some fams would lie to either me or Messina. It bothers me that there were classified information given to some of the attacking fams, which they could use to avoid some real danger. Instead they went to the opposing side and joined forces to eliminate ISPP.

At least now I know who to trust and who to never trust again.

Btw, weve been on .com for a long time now m8's. Did y'all forget Quirites and in my case Marangello ?


Dude, you come to .com, the first thing you do is backstab us (Pentagram). We were blooded to you and you stabbed us, lucchese aint even blooded to you.

You guys were whining at us for the way we played last version with 6 fams in 1 alliance. You just did the same, 6 fams in 1 alliance. The big difference is: You had even more brugs than we did last version.

150 brugs, you can and are supposed to lock a version with 150 brugs, you want to lock it with 600++ brugs and 15++ fams.

Anonymous (20:00:26 - 16-01)
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Stop at 19:52:13 on 16/01:
Anyway wrong decision from favians trafficante wargasm, Are you guys this stupid, the pact used the exactly same way issp and now they're shooting at them, what are you expecting in 4-5 days ?

i thought messina gravano was pact? and they are clearly unhappy about this.. now you are saying righelli maraz luch catania is pact? I'm confused may the real pact please stand up :^
Anonymous (19:59:36 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

provenznao wanst even shooting luchese
Anonymous (19:59:01 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 19:58:11 on 16/01:
CojoW at 19:55:04 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

I entrusted the persons i thought were trustworthy. Seemed harsh to me that some fams would lie to either me or Messina. It bothers me that there were classified information given to some of the attacking fams, which they could use to avoid some real danger. Instead they went to the opposing side and joined forces to eliminate ISPP.

At least now I know who to trust and who to never trust again.

Btw, weve been on .com for a long time now m8's. Did y'all forget Quirites and in my case Marangello ?

Well better check your blood messina than, cause i've heard they are behind this war those fam our throwing at ya. They have been spreading rumors for days about you attacking some of the attacking families


+10000
Space (19:58:58 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

okay... do u get the big picture? You think that maraz and co were not on the same side as ISPP at that moment? Without ISPP interfering lucchese would have been down as the attackers in that war had the advantage. Which thus means that Maraz/catania/righelli would have suffered alot in that fight and probably had to deal with much more families that got downed without ISPP interfering.

But instead ISPP shot the way clear for the families mentioned above (they lost less highranks, didnt have to use as much bullets) and these highranks and bullets are released on ISPP tonight.

In other words ISPP did help Lucchese and did help all the families mentioned above, if you get the bigger picture ofcourse.
Anonymous (19:58:50 - 16-01)
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I really don't think you can blame Lucchese for choosing their real bloods over ISPP.
CojoW Netherlands (19:58:41 - 16-01)
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Anonymous at 19:52:57 on 16/01:
Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.

We shot everything and everyone.
Anonymous (19:58:11 - 16-01)
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CojoW at 19:55:04 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

I entrusted the persons i thought were trustworthy. Seemed harsh to me that some fams would lie to either me or Messina. It bothers me that there were classified information given to some of the attacking fams, which they could use to avoid some real danger. Instead they went to the opposing side and joined forces to eliminate ISPP.

At least now I know who to trust and who to never trust again.

Btw, weve been on .com for a long time now m8's. Did y'all forget Quirites and in my case Marangello ?

Well better check your blood messina than, cause i've heard they are behind this war those fam our throwing at ya. They have been spreading rumors for days about you attacking some of the attacking families
Anonymous (19:55:50 - 16-01)
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Since when did ISPP save Lucchese's ass, if I may ask?
CojoW Netherlands (19:55:04 - 16-01)
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sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

I entrusted the persons i thought were trustworthy. Seemed harsh to me that some fams would lie to either me or Messina. It bothers me that there were classified information given to some of the attacking fams, which they could use to avoid some real danger. Instead they went to the opposing side and joined forces to eliminate ISPP.

At least now I know who to trust and who to never trust again.

Btw, weve been on .com for a long time now m8's. Did y'all forget Quirites and in my case Marangello ?
Anonymous (19:52:57 - 16-01)
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Space at 19:44:38 on 16/01:
sbanks at 19:37:29 on 16/01:
what i realy wonder is.. im sure ISPP saw this comming and knew about the same rumours as i did, like most people did.

why wait? this SUPER mega friendly KA is totaly in the attackers advantage. What if you opened fire first? you would have killed 50 brugs then, instead of the 5 who died now in BF.

so.. why did you wait? CojoW?

They didn't expect this, they heard rumors like everyone died, but they saved for example lucchese's ass in war. And killed Pentagram/purga which they probably saw as a favor for the pact. So they probably thought that this ass licking will save them from dying.

Thats why they are disappointed in a few as CojoW mentioned. But oh well what can you say.

You have been used big time to clear the path for the pact than get shot when ur not needed anymore. You can say whatever you want but this is the mafia way. You just made bad choices by killing Penta/Purga which would have saved your asses tonight.


You mean ISPP saved Lucchese's ass in the 'There was a FIREFIGHT!' war? Go read that wartopic, Lucchese was helped by Maraz / Catania / Righelli.

ISPP shot Provenzano that war.