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Someone seems to be enjoying shooting up some Cocktails.
Anonymous (hopefully not drunk) sources tell us that Coltello and Trafficante are the ones responsible for this war.
More to follow
Anonymous (hopefully not drunk) sources tell us that Coltello and Trafficante are the ones responsible for this war.
More to follow
statements
Anonymous drunk guy: bwarkeepr! one *hic* more coktail leaplese *burp*
statistics
War started on: 20:30:01 29-05-2012 | War ended on: 00:03:00 30-05-2012 |
Bullet difference: -484,272 | War duration: 3h 32m |
Money difference: -$187,040,424 | Players died: 28 |
deaths
Anonymous (11:29:58 - 31-05)
Saros`away at 10:59:01 on 31/05:
Nothing wrong with friendly competition, I believe CCCE also did that with their bloods PRLG in 2.2 (Tho' I'm not sure if it was friendly) to determine who won the version
scratzin at 10:28:29 on 31/05:
You're basically saying Krays is fine with shooting bloods after they've helped you get rid of your enemies
Frederikus at 15:38:00 on 30/05:
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
Anonymous at 14:44:44 on 30/05:
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
ElMariachi at 12:50:09 on 30/05:
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
You're basically saying Krays is fine with shooting bloods after they've helped you get rid of your enemies
Nothing wrong with friendly competition, I believe CCCE also did that with their bloods PRLG in 2.2 (Tho' I'm not sure if it was friendly) to determine who won the version
It was not friendly ;) PRLG was just used the week before to kill of NA after that there use for ccce was over(I know it's a bit more complicated but in a nutshell) :p
Saros`away (10:59:01 - 31-05)
scratzin at 10:28:29 on 31/05:
You're basically saying Krays is fine with shooting bloods after they've helped you get rid of your enemies
Frederikus at 15:38:00 on 30/05:
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
Anonymous at 14:44:44 on 30/05:
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
ElMariachi at 12:50:09 on 30/05:
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
You're basically saying Krays is fine with shooting bloods after they've helped you get rid of your enemies
Nothing wrong with friendly competition, I believe CCCE also did that with their bloods PRLG in 2.2 (Tho' I'm not sure if it was friendly) to determine who won the version
scratzin (10:28:29 - 31-05)
Frederikus at 15:38:00 on 30/05:
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
Anonymous at 14:44:44 on 30/05:
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
ElMariachi at 12:50:09 on 30/05:
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
You're basically saying Krays is fine with shooting bloods after they've helped you get rid of your enemies
Anonymous (17:13:51 - 30-05)
Frederikus at 15:38:00 on 30/05:
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
Anonymous at 14:44:44 on 30/05:
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
ElMariachi at 12:50:09 on 30/05:
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
LoL had this discussion before , basicly make the endgame so that only one fam survives and all praise that fam and point it out as winner. This would probebly cool of the love between certain fams which don't shoot each other out because of politics not because they like each other.
Frederikus (15:38:00 - 30-05)
Anonymous at 14:44:44 on 30/05:
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
ElMariachi at 12:50:09 on 30/05:
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
Anonymous (14:55:35 - 30-05)
Therefor ROM is a bad decision.
There should be a time period for every version like 6 months.
The Family on top can call themselfs winner.
ROM will keep pacts alive
There should be a time period for every version like 6 months.
The Family on top can call themselfs winner.
ROM will keep pacts alive
Anonymous (14:44:44 - 30-05)
ElMariachi at 12:50:09 on 30/05:
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
Aart (12:01:41 - 30-05)
boehoe pact this pact that.
what do we have to call you guys from now on? 'United Kanka's' ??
what do we have to call you guys from now on? 'United Kanka's' ??
Anonymous (11:12:36 - 30-05)
Mikee at 08:27:16 on 30/05:
Hahah... Idd!
ElMariachi at 23:01:06 on 29/05:
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
So mister I KNOW EVERYTHING uhm ElMariachi so you know the outcome of this version. right?
At least they dont use admin powers to change a war report ..... or hugging the pact and call themselfs winner after 7+ fams stay ontop till end of version.
There only can be 1 winner and that fam will be on spot number 1.
But you problly will not notice because you are to bizzy giving head.
ElMariachi at 23:01:06 on 29/05:
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
Anonymous (06:44:45 - 30-05)
Duh! at 04:03:19 on 30/05:
This guy is "legendary" check out his Natsu profile, the guy dont know how he even died, he says in his RIP! Yea "legendary" my ass! Get real, boon! xD :)
ElMariachi at 23:01:06 on 29/05:
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
This guy is "legendary" check out his Natsu profile, the guy dont know how he even died, he says in his RIP! Yea "legendary" my ass! Get real, boon! xD :)
Duh! (04:03:19 - 30-05)
ElMariachi at 23:01:06 on 29/05:
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
This guy is "legendary" check out his Natsu profile, the guy dont know how he even died, he says in his RIP! Yea "legendary" my ass! Get real, boon! xD :)
ElMariachi at 23:01:06 on 29/05:
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
hahah, can't add anything to this.
Redspeert at 23:34:07 on 29/05:
And what a wave, 2brugs, 2 chiefs and 2 assassins in only 40min.
Tobi at 21:28:38 on 29/05:
Hurdalik 29-05-2012 21:09:25 Chief Cocktails
Caxo 29-05-2012 21:03:40 Mobster
Palmiye 29-05-2012 20:59:45 Assassin Cocktails
Breaking 29-05-2012 20:53:33 Soldier
Faustt 29-05-2012 20:43:28 Bruglione Cocktails
Kasirga 29-05-2012 20:43:03 Soldier Cocktails
Justwatch 29-05-2012 20:34:44 Bruglione Cocktails
Toros 29-05-2012 20:34:38 Chief Cocktails
Byx 29-05-2012 20:34:37 Chief Cocktails
Saints 29-05-2012 20:33:35 Assassin Cocktails
Forkill 29-05-2012 20:33:31 Local Chief Cocktails
do you see any other than coocktails dead? no ... i didnt think so
Hurdalik 29-05-2012 21:09:25 Chief Cocktails
Caxo 29-05-2012 21:03:40 Mobster
Palmiye 29-05-2012 20:59:45 Assassin Cocktails
Breaking 29-05-2012 20:53:33 Soldier
Faustt 29-05-2012 20:43:28 Bruglione Cocktails
Kasirga 29-05-2012 20:43:03 Soldier Cocktails
Justwatch 29-05-2012 20:34:44 Bruglione Cocktails
Toros 29-05-2012 20:34:38 Chief Cocktails
Byx 29-05-2012 20:34:37 Chief Cocktails
Saints 29-05-2012 20:33:35 Assassin Cocktails
Forkill 29-05-2012 20:33:31 Local Chief Cocktails
do you see any other than coocktails dead? no ... i didnt think so
And what a wave, 2brugs, 2 chiefs and 2 assassins in only 40min.
Tobi at 21:28:38 on 29/05:
Hurdalik 29-05-2012 21:09:25 Chief Cocktails
Caxo 29-05-2012 21:03:40 Mobster
Palmiye 29-05-2012 20:59:45 Assassin Cocktails
Breaking 29-05-2012 20:53:33 Soldier
Faustt 29-05-2012 20:43:28 Bruglione Cocktails
Kasirga 29-05-2012 20:43:03 Soldier Cocktails
Justwatch 29-05-2012 20:34:44 Bruglione Cocktails
Toros 29-05-2012 20:34:38 Chief Cocktails
Byx 29-05-2012 20:34:37 Chief Cocktails
Saints 29-05-2012 20:33:35 Assassin Cocktails
Forkill 29-05-2012 20:33:31 Local Chief Cocktails
do you see any other than coocktails dead? no ... i didnt think so
Hurdalik 29-05-2012 21:09:25 Chief Cocktails
Caxo 29-05-2012 21:03:40 Mobster
Palmiye 29-05-2012 20:59:45 Assassin Cocktails
Breaking 29-05-2012 20:53:33 Soldier
Faustt 29-05-2012 20:43:28 Bruglione Cocktails
Kasirga 29-05-2012 20:43:03 Soldier Cocktails
Justwatch 29-05-2012 20:34:44 Bruglione Cocktails
Toros 29-05-2012 20:34:38 Chief Cocktails
Byx 29-05-2012 20:34:37 Chief Cocktails
Saints 29-05-2012 20:33:35 Assassin Cocktails
Forkill 29-05-2012 20:33:31 Local Chief Cocktails
do you see any other than coocktails dead? no ... i didnt think so
And what a wave, 2brugs, 2 chiefs and 2 assassins in only 40min.
let me guess you already died by fams like conflict/righelli and now all you want to see is bullets their way instead of a couple of fams just having a bit of fun regardless if they'll make it to the end ...
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
I mean you rly don't think that fams like coltello can make a difference in the outcome of this version, right? I mean check their first wave and some dude called Tobi claims they're raping them, need I say more ;x
Anonymous (22:27:01 - 29-05)
big lol idd, traffi think conflict righelli will let them live till reset? lmao what waste of bullets
Lol Anonymous under what stone did you crawl from? There can be only one winner and that is the fam on top, rly :') There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner, pacts been around ever since this game originated. I don't know everything, but at least I do know my history. But hey we are where a newby like you one day, right ...
^^^^^^^^^^^
There hasn't been a single version where there was only one fam on the #1 spot that was the winner.
Thats because pact dont shoot eachother and call themselfs winner of that version ...whahahaha
why does omerta has a countdown from 1 to 22 place at famlilies????
Because you can call yourself winner and standing at 6th place in list???????
You (the pact) changed the way of the game ...by staying huggers and not shooting eachother and crying for a reset because its socalled closed version and you are winners. :)
Play the game like it should and fight for the first place.
And sure you may call me a newbee i can live with that...but i know where number 1 stands for.
Last fam standing is a winner!
Maybee "the pact" can go play Online Tycoon and Omerta will be a interested game again!
Too bad i cant give a +1 on comments on obn! But your sir, certainly know how the game should be played
You're basically saying Krays is fine with shooting bloods after they've helped you get rid of your enemies
Nothing wrong with friendly competition, I believe CCCE also did that with their bloods PRLG in 2.2 (Tho' I'm not sure if it was friendly) to determine who won the version
It was not friendly ;) PRLG was just used the week before to kill of NA after that there use for ccce was over(I know it's a bit more complicated but in a nutshell) :p