Thanks for the honour, dishonour, respect and disrespect what's been given here.

I just lol'd. As everybody has seen. We're not good in the lackey format. Some fams have a good backup with starting up the fam. We HAD 1 or 2 Lackey accounts ^^. Then those fams took the slots, roulette's, bf's, blackjacks other objects and BEST bussiness spots for investing in other dc's and bullets from the objects omerta cash. And again. We said no to this format :p. With the KA friendly setup those fams had a huge advantage vs the standalone fams. Not ONE single TOP can be that good, not now and not in the past. Are those arguments facts or excuses? Only us know ;)

We shot twince in 2 days. We haven't chosen side. And again: NO pro format this, last version and version therefor developments. We have react on the shooting from Affi to DIG and the day after on shooting Retro and our good contacts Merovingians, i'm very proud we could do some damage with our VERY small fam. From commentary in the past if we didn't shoot we get commentary, if we shoot we get commentary too :p. So the conclusion is it doesn't matter or we shoot or not xD. We know we shot for our good contacts and bloods. This matters to us, and i don't take a notion what others think :)

The last note i give in here is: YUP, we said stop firing at Lucche, but it was miscommunicated internally. We paid the price for it, and the miscommunication and misunderstang was my fault. So ONLY me for to blame :P

Take a relax chair and see how others none related fams die one by one and blooding empty ^^

Keep it to the facts? or ALL excuses?

my 50 cents

and you think people really give a damn f word to what you think of their families. Cool story, keep them coming :)

I give my opinion about families mostly mangano, gambino, righelli, krays and uncensored and you prolly know.
This is a forum i can place those comments here, this time I've got a mangano top in my pm and we shared our opinion.
So its your choice to read it or not read it, if you read it you can pm me or even kill me if not then just dont read it. :)

Ps. My heart is fine dont worry about my health we have doctors for that.

@ PannaJunk

i'm wondering what your issue is with anda/mangano?
did the slam you ? did they bite you? or what did they do to you

every version if anda/manga is shooting or is been shot at you're crawl in your keyboard and spit out
your poison. same as you did with other family's. if you don't like the way we play or the way we act , feel free to look to the otherside. think at your heart and take care of that thing instet of nagging around on old stuff.

I'm hearing this story since 2.3, and again in 2.4 and again in 2. .. I've been gone for a couple of years and play very casual now (i.e. lackeys play for me), and I still hear the same broken record. If anything, lackeys brought back quite a bunch of old players who got over the retardness of having to click all day long for 1 month to even have a chance at doing something meaningful in this game. Which was the main reason why they reverted to scripting after their manual career in the first place.

I stopped caring for my account at the moment I no longer play manual, be it legal or illegal scripting. Got shot in a war while you were enjoying a beer in your pub? No prob, fire up lackeys and there we go. Expecting people to play manual time after time should be a crime.

I dont even know you so i dont really know with who you "pwnd" me since I mostly died by suicide or attacking I only got killed once by an other fam and that was I think in 3.2 as far as i remember then dig maraz and kuro went shooting on me. Nazdrovia came back and you know how that ended maraz was allready dead kuro went to my side and dig and naz shot eachother.

Further more i stay to my opinion Anda/N/A alliance/Mangano suck, they are a very passive fam wich I never like in fams. allways waiting never make action, andalusia was their worst project.

Tops retire, because omerta ain't no longer the "cool" game that is used to be...lackeys killed the game! - b00ns "ranking" to brugs and no real Irc interaction makes Nomerta.

Mangano/Andalusia are ancient families, with many ex-tops having their roots going back to 1.0/2.0 and onwards. Obviously they lost their addiction...(like many other ex-tops from various families)

ps: We pwned panna in the past (when it was still a real game) and he still can't deal with it :)

As you said they were the sub-fams. . Sub fams made by the main ones. . So u grow enough and start them. . Something comes from you. . Not an independent fam that comes from outside. . So pact is 12-13 main fams. . =)

Ha, my bitterness has nothing to do with dying, as many can attest, I'm never too distressed about losing an account. My bitterness is the inability of strong accounts to properly defend themselves any longer.

And your wrong, KA has plenty of relation to how spots are used. Your saying that when pure numbers in a family is more valuable than the strength of accounts in that family, that there is no effect on competent players leaving to establish their own families. That is false, pure and simple.

2.2 !!!

As i recall it correct even then pacting was used. CCCE wasn't only four fams (think with subfams around 12 and the bigest where over 300 members) ,NA that version the exactly the same and as well PRL for that matter. And the fun thing was most of those shot thogheter and only in the end of the verison on each other so really don't say pacting wasn't done these days.

You should stop being bitter about dieing. KA has no relation to all these families that back in 3.2 would have been ranked #50-80 and in 3.2 had to wait 2 months until most decent families went down before they could get started.

I understand the words of n00bs about Mangano but your words are not acceptable Panna. . True since 2-3 versions we are not organised fam to do anything well. . But it has some reasons. . Right Smiga is not around but not only smiga. . Almost all of our main tops are retired and i am semi-retired. . As we all know problems start from the top. . Then we lost many members because of retirements. . This version we were talking about start or not start it. . I am not fan of making Mangano or Andalusia name bad. . But nowadays whole omerta sux so we are part of it also. . The people that says p*ssy to us pls think twice after checking the pact. . Pact thingy kills this game. . I think we need to go back 2.2 days and make wars as 4-5 famd alliances. . Mangano/Andalusia is dead for me from now on. . Better to keep it in the pages of the history. .

The present family numbers would be fine if the admins didnt do such a thorough job of fucking the KA

Because when a decent amount of families were allowed to start this version, everyone cried and we got a 23 bonus to HQ's that were only needed for families that generally speaking don't have more than 15 players.

Yeah Mangano awesomeness! Could anyone explain to me why there's so many useless families around?

so true so true

just shooting on our bloods gave us the reason to kill lucchese.

Rip at all who died and Mangano you did great , i'm proud to be a part of that family

we tried and died with our head straight right up.

that is how it should be :)

They still are.
But that doesn't give them or anyone else the right to shoot our bloods.
It's all in the game, nothing more nothing less.

RIP Mangano

they used to be "buddies" with righelli