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22-10 Complexio/Tempestuoso getting shot
Author: Smul
Last updated: 4805d 7h 54m 49s ago by Rix
Comments: 143
Views: 66,079
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Version: 3.2
Involved families: Army.ofcrime, Aspava, Blacksea, Fusion, Hellmasters, Ihtilal, Lannister, Legends, Loriga, Miracle, Retro, Rochester, Samagono, Singles, Venture, Xzone, Yigidos, Yigidosia, Andalusia, Complexio, Masseria, Purgatory, Tempestuoso, Vicaria
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While everyone was enjoying their peaceful saturday Samagono, Blacksea alliance, Singles, Ihtilal, Rochester/Loriga, Army.ofcrime Xzone alliance, Asfu alliance and the Venture alliance decided it was time to do some killing. They targeted Tempestuoso and the Complexio alliance. The war started quite slow, probably due to the low online amount on the defender side.

Steadily the accounts from the defender side were picked off while the attackers lost very few of their own in the meantime. Even when two bloods of Tempestuoso and Complexio, Andalusia and Purgatory, decided to jump the force couldn't be balanced.

It's to be seen if these countering families will be dragged under together with the other defenders as they still have a solid amount of highranks, but it seems they lost more than they could manage to kill. Though it looks like it is a matter of time before the initial targets will fall.
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TmX (Top Samagono): We were bored and comple was seen as possible future threat. Temps has been added to the target list because of their past loyalty to their bloods, therefore it was almost 100% clear that they'd had jumped if they could. Thanks for all shooters and RIP Both sides.

Bjack (Top Xzone): Nothing personal, we just wanted to do a strategic move with our bloods and friends. RIP to everyone who died recently in Turkey in the terrorist attacks and in the earthquake.

corniole (Tempestuoso): There is a time of start a family and there is a time of dying, too bad we died this time. Respect how Venture godfather pm'ed me afterwards to have a nice chat, thats how it should be. Way better then some of their members who loved too bash in our public channel. Too thoose members I say: grow up and start realise this is only a game, unfortunaly dying is part of this game and this time it was our turn. Well planned and attacked, too bad we couldnt reach many members by phone this time so I guess its time too update o ur phonelist a bit xDI think we had a good run this round, jumped in for bloods few times, had our own wars and managed too hijack our own hijacked HQ back. RIP too both sides & respect for a nice fight.

/q LL
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War started on: 20:28:02 22-10-2011 War ended on: 23:03:02 23-10-2011
Bullet difference: -27,182,489 War duration: 1d 2h 35m
Money difference: -$1,990,823,697 Players died: 203




deaths
Dead Families:
[Andalusia] Family down on 23:01 23-10
[Vicaria] Family down on 20:04 23-10
[Tempestuoso] Family down on 16:03 23-10
[Masseria] Family down on 11:21 23-10
[Complexio] Family down on 08:43 23-10
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Andalusia | swin: 0 | assa: 3 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 22 | cd: 4 | gf: 1 | points: 426
Army.ofcrime | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 26
Blacksea | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Complexio | swin: 3 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 32 | cd: 1 | gf: 2 | points: 522
Ihtilal | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Legends | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 14
Loriga | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Masseria | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 109
Purgatory | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 26
Retro | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 30
Rochester | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 5 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 65
Samagono | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 34
Singles | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Tempestuoso | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 28 | cd: 2 | gf: 1 | points: 463
Venture | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 3 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 123
Vicaria | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 9 | cd: 2 | gf: 1 | points: 196
Yigidos | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Total | swin: 8 | assa: 7 | lc: 3 | chief: 8 | brug: 128 | cd: 9 | gf: 6 | points: 2,177
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gg (16:27:31 - 23-10)
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People actually taking klementino seriously and responding/arguing with him.. interesting
Spy Netherlands (16:17:36 - 23-10)
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Trice at 23:12:31 on 22/10:
Andalusia are one of the few fams to survive from the early days of omerta, we have a top thats played for versions and versions. Anonymous posters can criticise all they want, but we have friends where it matters, and back up our bloods accordingly. You'll never see any proper tops whine about anda.

The fact that you dont see 'proper' tops whine about Andalusia is not so much credited to the fact that you, Andalusia, do so much good (or bad, whatever you wanna call a lot of shooting) in the game.
But it's more credit to these tops because they are proper and dont post things on an open forum but keep things where they belong, in a top channel, pm or privately started channel with other tops.

klementino at 02:13:33 on 23/10:
Bullet difference: -25,045,708 (note: bullets have been bought as well ofcourse!)
Players died: 137 (note: not all brug ofcourse!)

Well let´s put these raw numbers into a simple calculation±

25,045,708 bullets over 137 dead players = 25045708/137 = 182,815 bullets per dead player
Let's say all these shoot outs shot 60k and had 60k returend in backfire that means for every kill there are 60k bullets wasted.

You're forgetting that in each war there are also people who fail to kill and people who fail to bf kill.
There are also such things as preshoots.

klementino at 02:13:33 on 23/10:
This war looks to be pretty smooth for attackers, and to be honest it is.
Roughly comparing the numbers of highranks of attackers and defenders(without countering family's) it would be about 4 on 1 (attackers had 4 times as many highranks as the defenders)

I don't have 100% proof(except for the total family values which show more than just amount of brugs chiefs etc) this is true, but only thing I can conclude is that the quality(or let's say strenght) is about 2 on 1 (i.e. attackers are twice as strong).

And to be honest, even if you have a million reasons and good stories why this theory I just wrote down would be wrong, the gangbang is still a fact.

It's not the number of brugs/highranks you should be looking at but the number of brugs/highranks such a coalition of families can bring online at one given time.

You can have a family of 500 brugs, but if you can only get 3 online at any given time you still can't do anything.

Fact is, offline accounts are (still) stronger then online accounts and thus even though you have around the same amount of people online as the other has, offline, you can not start a war for the simple reason that the ones sleeping, or being offline, are stronger then your onliners. And you need to calculate that some of these players will come online after being shot at (sms). You need more people and thus mostly, more fams to shoot at your oponent.

Ingame family values don't rly say a lot imo, a family can have a really high value but can still not be able to bring people online to actually do anything.

Usualy these are the fams that just sit still all version with a lot of lackey acc's who come online 3 times a day to buy 3k bullets or something, if they do this for long enough, yes they will have more bullets then others who actually shoot, or these are families that shoot 3 targets in wars they know they'll be safe in. But family rank is also based on more then just bullets and lowranks also play a part in it and thus it's unreliable.

As for OB stats, they're a little more helpfull because they grade highranks more then lowranks, but dont count bullets. But they are often flawed due to akills or family name changes and other reasons (nothing I blame you for OB, it's just a fact though). And you cant see who can be brought online at what time in any of these stats.

Yes this 'gangbang' as you call it, is still a 'fact' but I have just explained why this 'gangbang' was not actually that bad and tbh, I think the numbers on this 'gangbang' of yours are not that bad as many gangbangs before this one.

Furthermore 'gangbangs' have been happening for a long time now and I dont see why people feel the need to express their displeasure at them, it happened, feel happy that people thought they couldnt take you down by themselves with just 2 families or whatever amount.

DerWunterSlaus at 23:56:28 on 22/10:
nice to see gambino defend tempes

This was indeed also one of my interests in this war, Tempest has done a lot (in the past and) in this version for Gambino and I was wondering what Gambino was going to do for Tempest in this war.
I think it's very interesting to see Gambino didn't do anything and I wonder if Tempest told them to stay out or wether they (Gambino) just did not want to join in to this war. Only time will tell I guess ^^
(as you see, I'm not bashing any fam here)

klementino at 03:33:29 on 23/10:
And to personally reply on what you had to say.
You may doubt about the fact this site being either professional or not allowing people to tro0ll unlimited and completely anonymously. But something even more unprofessional is a news writer that clearly shows his meaning in every post he makes.

News should be objectively. Pure facts. It´s about the people you write the newspost about, not about what you think about that. You got collumns for that. And don´t start with saying things like I´m bragging, or thinking too much of myself. I know who I am and where I stand, and I don't mind at all if you post any word about me, or my family.

Thing that is bothering me, except those anonymous people who can be like the sole of your foot being itchy while you wear shoes, is that you are showing the same behaviour as those anonymous heroes, but with the big difference of you showing your name and being admin on this site.

Though Redspeert and me have our differences, I think he's perfectly capable and allowed to post his opinion on this site just as you and others are, even though he is an admin/news writer.
He is just as you and me, a person and is thus allowed to express his oppinion, note however that he is not doing so in his articles, or atleast in a way lesser way, but in the discussion between people on this site in the area where discussion is allowed.
Anonymous (16:06:55 - 23-10)
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Army.ofcrime, Blacksea, Hellmasters, Ihtilal, Lannister, Loriga, Miracle, Retro, Rochester, Samagono, Singles, Venture, Yigidos, Yigidosia

and Xzone shoot -.-
klementino Netherlands (15:47:43 - 23-10)
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Smul at 11:55:53 on 23/10:
klementino at 03:33:29 on 23/10:
Redspeert dude, I have a few things to remark on this(and even some other) reply of you. In the first place I am not bragging, and you seem not to understand what I point out. And no, I'm not gonna explain you step by step what I tried to explain, just read it as many times as you need untill you get my point.

The point was pretty much a bunch of random statistics, which were even poorly made and analysed, without any coherency. Just trying to bend the "facts" into a subjective matter (gangbang).

I also don't understand why you are "attacking me" personally while I don't have a clue who you are(except for I know you are OB News crew, got an opinion about that too), and you don't know me the tiniest bit.

From the amount of posts you make on this site, people do get a proper picture of you. So don't say someone doesn't know you if you spam this site, cuz that's how people get to "know" eachother, through interaction. Whether that's just you spamming and them reading, doesn't matter. Be glad people read your junk, maybe you should feel honoured about that too.

What do I mean with attacking someone personally... well like this. I have an opinion about you, I don't know you, I don't know if the opinion is right. It's just what I can conclude from my observations.

Isn't that just everything in life? Something based on your own observations.. Your point doesn't make sense

However, you are doing something very similar to what some religious people do. If there's something wrong about it and they are confronted with it they simply say, it's how you read it. If I would read the Guinness book of world records, and I claim something very wrong, I can simply say, it's just how I read it. Pure nonsense. You, and many others, read what you want to read. Your own opinion, thoughts and expectations have huge influences on how you read those reply´s. That´s the first difference.

I believe you were confronted with your statistics being flawed. And who's blapping now. Smells like you aren't dirty of using the "religious tactic" yourself.
Your example makes no sense at all. Guinness book are PROVEN facts, while your "facts" show cracks at every side. Then someone confronts you with that, and you go whine about his integrity.

And to personally reply on what you had to say.
You may doubt about the fact this site being either professional or not allowing people to tro0ll unlimited and completely anonymously. But something even more unprofessional is a news writer that clearly shows his meaning in every post he makes.

Every newsreporter is a volunteer, except for Rix, he makes big monehz with the ads bastard. Tbh, just read Rix's post about this instead of whine "unprofessional", yeah, Redspeert isn't professional indeed..

News should be objectively. Pure facts. It´s about the people you write the newspost about, not about what you think about that. You got collumns for that. And don´t start with saying things like I´m bragging, or thinking too much of myself. I know who I am and where I stand, and I don't mind at all if you post any word about me, or my family.

the News IS objective. Check out the newsposts smartass, they are always objective. You say you have "columns" for subjectiveness. Guess what, the COMMENTS are this site's "COLUMNS", brainiac.
Of course you don't mind people posting about you or your family. It's a FACT (trololol) that you love the attention and as I'm not a bad guy, I'm giving it to you for once.

Thing that is bothering me, except those anonymous people who can be like the sole of your foot being itchy while you wear shoes, is that you are showing the same behaviour as those anonymous heroes, but with the big difference of you showing your name and being admin on this site.

So actually the thing that is bothering you, isn't the fact that people write their rants anonymously, it's the fact that people dare to address something negative about you/your family.

I can only say 1 more thing about this, not even gonna read all of this(quickly scanned through).

How can people get to know me if the only things they read from me are reply's on bashing and mostly anonymous bashing. People who think they know me after reading my reply's have a long way to go.

Ironicly I really am a complex person, and many other people are.

High quality news reporting is only possible if the people who write it don't include their own opinion when they are not involved. You know that as good as I know it, and ofcourse we have this freedom of speech.

Maybe you should focus on making both the objectivity of the OB news crew(both in News posts as in comments) and if you have time left you might also want to improve the quality of the comments below. OB News has good reports, and is always quick. I have nothing against that but next to that it's just trolling paradise for people who are either too lazy toi register or too hesitant about themselves and what they got to say.

Anyway, if you prefer me not to post again, I will keep my mouth shut. Just playing my game the way I like it, and deal with it or not.

Sigh, another bunch of minutes wasted on replying on some useless comments, is there any remove my OB news account button? Might keeps me from wasting time.
lol (13:36:59 - 23-10)
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Fiducci at 12:46:13 on 23/10:
Andalusia <3

Some things to clear up:

I rlly don't like this version. Although we accomplished 2 times #1, We still have to face the fact we are limited by the bad KA at the first place, the 300% limit and ofc the lackeys. Within those limit's we kept our Omerta feeling and builded up a nice fam where some fams would be jealous on and some not, opinions are personal :p.

For those who are bashing at us ;). Andalusia isn't a fam what build up a large alliance and continiously shooting with them. We play it oldskool and kept it short, so our strategic is always within these thoughts.
I'm proud of what we have accomplished within these marginals, rather then what we don't have accomplished, i see some of here got other opinions ;). Most of them with that opinion are 1. just shooting with alot others 2. some who's doing nothing, just bashing 3.just talking crap.

Ofcourse some will see this as an excuse, for us it's a fact we have to deal with :)

RIP at both sides and respect for the parted fams who planned this without leaking :p


being #1 fam overall isnt an accomplishment if you didnt shoot for it. get real man.
gilly (13:09:49 - 23-10)
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Rip all temp members and bloods

Been a great version for temp up since start of version top10 a couple times. I could not be happier to be a temp

Once a temp always a temp!
Fiducci (12:59:58 - 23-10)
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and this was my only article by the way ;). So if there's continueing on my article or not. I don't give a penny about that. By the way, I don't post my articles anonymous _o_
Fiducci (12:46:13 - 23-10)
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Andalusia <3

Some things to clear up:

I rlly don't like this version. Although we accomplished 2 times #1, We still have to face the fact we are limited by the bad KA at the first place, the 300% limit and ofc the lackeys. Within those limit's we kept our Omerta feeling and builded up a nice fam where some fams would be jealous on and some not, opinions are personal :p.

For those who are bashing at us ;). Andalusia isn't a fam what build up a large alliance and continiously shooting with them. We play it oldskool and kept it short, so our strategic is always within these thoughts.
I'm proud of what we have accomplished within these marginals, rather then what we don't have accomplished, i see some of here got other opinions ;). Most of them with that opinion are 1. just shooting with alot others 2. some who's doing nothing, just bashing 3.just talking crap.

Ofcourse some will see this as an excuse, for us it's a fact we have to deal with :)

RIP at both sides and respect for the parted fams who planned this without leaking :p

pref option! (12:35:17 - 23-10)
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Dont forget u have the option to disable anonymous comments. Check prefs
Smul Netherlands (11:55:53 - 23-10)
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klementino at 03:33:29 on 23/10:
Redspeert dude, I have a few things to remark on this(and even some other) reply of you. In the first place I am not bragging, and you seem not to understand what I point out. And no, I'm not gonna explain you step by step what I tried to explain, just read it as many times as you need untill you get my point.

The point was pretty much a bunch of random statistics, which were even poorly made and analysed, without any coherency. Just trying to bend the "facts" into a subjective matter (gangbang).

I also don't understand why you are "attacking me" personally while I don't have a clue who you are(except for I know you are OB News crew, got an opinion about that too), and you don't know me the tiniest bit.

From the amount of posts you make on this site, people do get a proper picture of you. So don't say someone doesn't know you if you spam this site, cuz that's how people get to "know" eachother, through interaction. Whether that's just you spamming and them reading, doesn't matter. Be glad people read your junk, maybe you should feel honoured about that too.

What do I mean with attacking someone personally... well like this. I have an opinion about you, I don't know you, I don't know if the opinion is right. It's just what I can conclude from my observations.

Isn't that just everything in life? Something based on your own observations.. Your point doesn't make sense

However, you are doing something very similar to what some religious people do. If there's something wrong about it and they are confronted with it they simply say, it's how you read it. If I would read the Guinness book of world records, and I claim something very wrong, I can simply say, it's just how I read it. Pure nonsense. You, and many others, read what you want to read. Your own opinion, thoughts and expectations have huge influences on how you read those reply´s. That´s the first difference.

I believe you were confronted with your statistics being flawed. And who's blapping now. Smells like you aren't dirty of using the "religious tactic" yourself.
Your example makes no sense at all. Guinness book are PROVEN facts, while your "facts" show cracks at every side. Then someone confronts you with that, and you go whine about his integrity.

And to personally reply on what you had to say.
You may doubt about the fact this site being either professional or not allowing people to tro0ll unlimited and completely anonymously. But something even more unprofessional is a news writer that clearly shows his meaning in every post he makes.

Every newsreporter is a volunteer, except for Rix, he makes big monehz with the ads bastard. Tbh, just read Rix's post about this instead of whine "unprofessional", yeah, Redspeert isn't professional indeed..

News should be objectively. Pure facts. It´s about the people you write the newspost about, not about what you think about that. You got collumns for that. And don´t start with saying things like I´m bragging, or thinking too much of myself. I know who I am and where I stand, and I don't mind at all if you post any word about me, or my family.

the News IS objective. Check out the newsposts smartass, they are always objective. You say you have "columns" for subjectiveness. Guess what, the COMMENTS are this site's "COLUMNS", brainiac.
Of course you don't mind people posting about you or your family. It's a FACT (trololol) that you love the attention and as I'm not a bad guy, I'm giving it to you for once.

Thing that is bothering me, except those anonymous people who can be like the sole of your foot being itchy while you wear shoes, is that you are showing the same behaviour as those anonymous heroes, but with the big difference of you showing your name and being admin on this site.

So actually the thing that is bothering you, isn't the fact that people write their rants anonymously, it's the fact that people dare to address something negative about you/your family.
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Trice at 23:12:31 on 22/10:
For all the anonymous posters, and trolls who call anda pussies, if we are the pussies, why did no one shoot at me all version? I had double figures of brug kills, from the wars we took part in that you turn a blind eye to, and yet still none of you took a shot at me? Cmon now anonymouses, i shot your consigs, capos, dons and insome cases, your lackeydupes. and still, anda are the pussies who you never shot at?

If andalusia suck, why didnt someone finish us off after Kuro and Carneglia raped us?

Andalusia are one of the few fams to survive from the early days of omerta, we have a top thats played for versions and versions. Anonymous posters can criticise all they want, but we have friends where it matters, and back up our bloods accordingly. You'll never see any proper tops whine about anda.

Theres a reason why anyone we are/were blooded to is a fam with a proper top, comprised of people who are able to understand the game, rather than those who make alliances with 16 other familes. You'll never see Andalusia's name in a ridiculous alliance of 5 fams.

And yes, I do sound arrogant. But being ungodly amounts of awesome will do that to you. Bring the hate anonyrats (hee. clever wordplay), im off to do busywork in london till the reset.

also, LL tastes like strawberries.


if you would ask all the "proper" tops they would still say your fam sucks, not only anonymous people say your fam huggs and sucks, you hugg , you get in wars that dont finish and keep hugging, but truth is no possible enemy of your gives a fuck about Anda, they never put you in plans when they shoot your bloods, cause they know theres a 90% chance you will do nothing. I mean dude last war with righelli and cogere, you were in that war you shot noone but lackeys accounts, both cogere and righelli died, the fams you were targetting stayed alive and you just kept on with your life with 1 or 2 brug losses, what kind of fam does this ??

You must be really delusional to even think Andalusia is worth anything, if you had half a brain you wouldnt be using the "if we are pussy why didnt you shoot us" argument, cause if you thought about it you knew why good fams in this game are always targeted and lame ass fams like yours are never. They just dont matter.
corniole (11:33:29 - 23-10)
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Anonymous at 02:55:28 on 23/10:
lalalala at 01:29:03 on 23/10:
DerWunterSlaus at 23:56:28 on 22/10:
nice to see gambino defend tempes

well gambino aint the only bloods of temp..
Tho with the thought off Gambino running from Cogere to Temp for safty during the war Cogere was in. Befor Gambino got the Cogere spot.
Idd they should help Temp.
So the question is will they ? or will they not ?
dont forget their past from this version where temp barely survived for jumping in for gambino.
iwonder what temp will do now with their relations
in fact we where 3 times barely dead for helping Gambino
and now we see how they thank us, sad but true
I see a lot bashing too andalusia but at least they jumped in and shot

We had a good run this round,
few times almost dead, highjacked but highjacked our own spot back 2 weeks after that
time too take a rest since we where up since start this version
personal I think admins should change a few things too make people active again instead of lackey around before all players will find other games

RIP too all who died ( attackers & defenders )



Jonsered (11:06:52 - 23-10)
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klementino at 02:13:33 on 23/10:
Bullet difference: -25,045,708 (note: bullets have been bought as well ofcourse!)
Players died: 137 (note: not all brug ofcourse!)

Well let´s put these raw numbers into a simple calculation±

25,045,708 bullets over 137 dead players = 25045708/137 = 182,815 bullets per dead player
Let's say all these shoot outs shot 60k and had 60k returend in backfire that means for every kill there are 60k bullets wasted.

This war looks to be pretty smooth for attackers, and to be honest it is.
Roughly comparing the numbers of highranks of attackers and defenders(without countering family's) it would be about 4 on 1 (attackers had 4 times as many highranks as the defenders)

I don't have 100% proof(except for the total family values which show more than just amount of brugs chiefs etc) this is true, but only thing I can conclude is that the quality(or let's say strenght) is about 2 on 1 (i.e. attackers are twice as strong).

And to be honest, even if you have a million reasons and good stories why this theory I just wrote down would be wrong, the gangbang is still a fact.

And that's what I want to point out. I don't wanna throw mud, talk shit about the opposing fams. No, I just wanna say I feel honoured or flattered(just like my tops) that people saw us as a threat big enough for a war like this. Can only see the positive things about that.

3.2 altough people have been complaining about it being boring(like the same people do every version ecxept for that one special version they did like), I think it was a nice version, I enjoyed it.

Rip all who died, time for some rest :)

Gangbang? IMHO you should count online members for attackers. And in this case, ratio was even lower than 1 on 1.
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (11:04:29 - 23-10)
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Guess he know who I am as good as I know who he is :'). Only thing I've seen is the posts at OB he writes
LL Aruba Patron (10:48:07 - 23-10)
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klementino at 03:33:29 on 23/10:
.. I don't have a clue who you are ..


LOL REDSPEERT NEWB :W


As for the ratio, I think it's pretty even. If you look at the staggering amount of brugliones that needed to be killed, and then look at the amount of shooters that was online to do this (there's a reason brugs usually survive wars nowadays). Add the factor that no one really gives enough fucks to still keep SMS contact or come online when asked to do so - it's basically evenly split. If anything, the amount of targets that need to die have the majority advantage.

(No I did not count anything, but I'm 99% sure this is the case, as it has always been. No one actually gets 4 or 5 or 6 shooters for *every single target* they're gonna kill. No one. Except maybe Coccada cause they're serious faggots.)
Amorphis Cyprus (10:23:20 - 23-10)
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I'm sure Gambino have something in mind.. They wouldnt just sit down when Temps is beign shoot..
Thanks to Anda and Purgatory _o_ All repsect...

RIP to those who died..
gode Turkey (09:28:04 - 23-10)
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Rix that's not a very good article. I think it needs some updates :)

klementino o/ rip
Rix Netherlands (08:58:20 - 23-10)
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Opinions in news posts: allowed in small amount if justified, but overall we try to stay very objective (this includes articles).
Opinions in comments: crew is here just as anyone else, and they also have opinions. So yes.

Can we please respond on the content of the comments again instead of commenting on the poster (this also includes bs responses like "Haha lmao you're anon and thus I won't respond on your brilliant comment which included 100's parts of proof but I will ignore those !1")?
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (08:45:14 - 23-10)
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Sadly, I did read it tho.

"But something even more unprofessional is a news writer that clearly shows his meaning in every post he makes.

News should be objectively. Pure facts. It´s about the people you write the newspost about, not about what you think about that."

You are aware that Omerta is a game? And thus, this is a name newssite for a dieing text based game? This issn't the New York Times. I know omerta might be :seriousbusiness: for you, but all of us dossn't take the game so hard.

Because I write a article now and then, I can write my opinion whenever I want to.
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (08:37:17 - 23-10)
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klementino at 03:33:29 on 23/10:
Redspeert at 02:35:47 on 23/10:

@ Klementino

I see you are whining for once. You talk about 4 vs 1 ( But with the counter its 2 vs 1 ). And you complain about that. Don't you know that most of the wars you have been in have had worse odds than that and then you bragged like a donkey. Suppose this is the most fair war you've been in this version, and we can see how this will end. Says somthing about the almighty shooters that you have bragged so much about?

PS: I see you also can divide 2 numbers, good boy. Gold star in the book :D.

Redspeert dude, I have a few things to remark on this(and even some other) reply of you. In the first place I am not bragging, and you seem not to understand what I point out. And no, I'm not gonna explain you step by step what I tried to explain, just read it as many times as you need untill you get my point.

I also don't understand why you are "attacking me" personally while I don't have a clue who you are(except for I know you are OB News crew, got an opinion about that too), and you don't know me the tiniest bit.

What do I mean with attacking someone personally... well like this. I have an opinion about you, I don't know you, I don't know if the opinion is right. It's just what I can conclude from my observations.

However, you are doing something very similar to what some religious people do. If there's something wrong about it and they are confronted with it they simply say, it's how you read it. If I would read the Guinness book of world records, and I claim something very wrong, I can simply say, it's just how I read it. Pure nonsense. You, and many others, read what you want to read. Your own opinion, thoughts and expectations have huge influences on how you read those reply´s. That´s the first difference.

And to personally reply on what you had to say.
You may doubt about the fact this site being either professional or not allowing people to tro0ll unlimited and completely anonymously. But something even more unprofessional is a news writer that clearly shows his meaning in every post he makes.

News should be objectively. Pure facts. It´s about the people you write the newspost about, not about what you think about that. You got collumns for that. And don´t start with saying things like I´m bragging, or thinking too much of myself. I know who I am and where I stand, and I don't mind at all if you post any word about me, or my family.

Thing that is bothering me, except those anonymous people who can be like the sole of your foot being itchy while you wear shoes, is that you are showing the same behaviour as those anonymous heroes, but with the big difference of you showing your name and being admin on this site.

I rest my case, nuff said

time for rest (I broke my back I think... damn desk chair)


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