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Anonymous (22:24:15 - 17-10)
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Rix Netherlands (22:08:45 - 17-10)
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Dutch news site for .nl (Edo) got hacked after all. In case you have registered there and use your account on other services as well, be advised to change your password.
gode Turkey (21:50:27 - 17-10)
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Tibz & Johnny

I'm not crew of Venture, but i'm member till the start of version. it started with 10-15 players, not a big deal compared to mainstream families.

We didn't join 2-3 big wars, the Carneglia shootout and Levi+Turkuz+Gambino vs. others.
Other then those wars, i can read lots of Venture word in war news.

And also i know the war channel, ppl shooting last 60k on targets. Last time i was trying to stop a brug from shooting last 40k bullets. anyways he shot that 40k :)

What do you expect from a fam with that playerbase? If there was KS this version, believe me i was %100 for sure. There seems to be lots of families in top 10, that deserves bashing, not Venture.


Ps: dont get this game that serious bro ^^
Anonymous (20:31:00 - 17-10)
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seriously someone shoot asfu biggest fucking bitches in the game how many fams do they have now 10?
Shizzz Belgium (20:20:39 - 17-10)
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Soph at 16:12:29 on 17/10:
Johnny at 11:30:47 on 17/10:
Anonymous at 07:10:07 on 17/10:
Making wars still is fun. You just have to adept to the new style. You simply have to adjust the style, or way to shoot. If you don't then yes you become a spectator fam like Krays was this round.

Just watch and learn. i.e. Presidential had a nice round with lots of wars. And thats a new fam, so not based on well known player/members base.

If you stick to your old ways of playing this game, you get wiped out, like you proved earlier.

*snip*

The funny part of it all is that most families in top at the moment think they achieved it through virtue and warfare, which couldn't be more from the truth. I think it all went downhill at the start though, when a few families blooded a few, while other families blooded a lot. These families with a few bloods got whiped out after a few wars and left the big bloodlines intact.

These big bloodlines are basically one embodiement of sheep who follow a shepherd, in this case DIG or Levi. This tactic has proven to be succesful in last version where Nazdrovia was clearly the shepherd who herded their sheep after the big families were gone.

This however does lead to the shepherd to win the version, now the question is. Why do these sheep let themselve even get herded in the first place? Looking at the bold words of some of these sheep, I don't even think they know they are being herded. It might have to do with a certain ingroup bias. Where the outgroup seems as less succesful in doing things than your own ingroup. While the opposite might even be true.

Ask yourself this question, those last wars in which we achieved victory were sweet. But for who or what did we do those wars in the first place?

meeeeehhh
Soph Netherlands (18:49:36 - 17-10)
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Rix at 17:05:00 on 17/10:
I added the much requested "stay logged in" option when logging in. Since this is a pretty hard thing to test though, I'm just for 99.8% sure it works, so please tell me if you are logged out after 3601 seconds anyway. For now you should be able to stay logged in for 604,800 seconds aka one week.

I got logged out, and since on week didnt pass yet, I guess it didn't work yet.
Rix Netherlands (17:05:00 - 17-10)
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I added the much requested "stay logged in" option when logging in. Since this is a pretty hard thing to test though, I'm just for 99.8% sure it works, so please tell me if you are logged out after 3601 seconds anyway. For now you should be able to stay logged in for 604,800 seconds aka one week.
Soph Netherlands (16:12:29 - 17-10)
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Johnny at 11:30:47 on 17/10:
Anonymous at 07:10:07 on 17/10:
Making wars still is fun. You just have to adept to the new style. You simply have to adjust the style, or way to shoot. If you don't then yes you become a spectator fam like Krays was this round.

Just watch and learn. i.e. Presidential had a nice round with lots of wars. And thats a new fam, so not based on well known player/members base.

If you stick to your old ways of playing this game, you get wiped out, like you proved earlier.

*snip*

The funny part of it all is that most families in top at the moment think they achieved it through virtue and warfare, which couldn't be more from the truth. I think it all went downhill at the start though, when a few families blooded a few, while other families blooded a lot. These families with a few bloods got whiped out after a few wars and left the big bloodlines intact.

These big bloodlines are basically one embodiement of sheep who follow a shepherd, in this case DIG or Levi. This tactic has proven to be succesful in last version where Nazdrovia was clearly the shepherd who herded their sheep after the big families were gone.

This however does lead to the shepherd to win the version, now the question is. Why do these sheep let themselve even get herded in the first place? Looking at the bold words of some of these sheep, I don't even think they know they are being herded. It might have to do with a certain ingroup bias. Where the outgroup seems as less succesful in doing things than your own ingroup. While the opposite might even be true.

Ask yourself this question, those last wars in which we achieved victory were sweet. But for who or what did we do those wars in the first place?
Anonymous (16:05:48 - 17-10)
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Reset this shitty version..
lol (13:32:50 - 17-10)
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Anonymous at 13:27:27 on 17/10:
Johnny at 11:30:47 on 17/10:
Anonymous at 07:10:07 on 17/10:
Making wars still is fun. You just have to adept to the new style. You simply have to adjust the style, or way to shoot. If you don't then yes you become a spectator fam like Krays was this round.

Just watch and learn. i.e. Presidential had a nice round with lots of wars. And thats a new fam, so not based on well known player/members base.

If you stick to your old ways of playing this game, you get wiped out, like you proved earlier.

New style is "Hope you are not main target, and then hit back when no one is watching on you". That's not even a style. Most of families have no clue what they're doing, they need someone else to tell them what to do. Look at Top 10 families, you seriously wanna tell me they planed anything? Or that any big and important war that happened was their organization?
Then again do these fams even have enemies or threats? Seems to me all of 100+ families are more than happy with how things go, Most of fams in top 10 aren't even related anyhow if it's not some secret deals and no one is trying to kill other one. They make dreadful long version without even being interesting to watch, with no twists or even wars lol. Only thing Top fams are doing is sitting, waiting for something (god knows what). Number of online players keep dropping and game keeps dying, but it's not lackeys who are killing it, it's this "new style". This is 1st version I see with shitload of fams where n one is trying to shoot. So what are you guys waiting? DIG to rank up again and tell you who next target is? Or Leviticus and Gambino to figure out who they like least of current fams?
+1

newstyle=bloods pussy style

+1 indeed. main reason why none of the influential families is up.
Anonymous (13:27:27 - 17-10)
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Johnny at 11:30:47 on 17/10:
Anonymous at 07:10:07 on 17/10:
Making wars still is fun. You just have to adept to the new style. You simply have to adjust the style, or way to shoot. If you don't then yes you become a spectator fam like Krays was this round.

Just watch and learn. i.e. Presidential had a nice round with lots of wars. And thats a new fam, so not based on well known player/members base.

If you stick to your old ways of playing this game, you get wiped out, like you proved earlier.

New style is "Hope you are not main target, and then hit back when no one is watching on you". That's not even a style. Most of families have no clue what they're doing, they need someone else to tell them what to do. Look at Top 10 families, you seriously wanna tell me they planed anything? Or that any big and important war that happened was their organization?
Then again do these fams even have enemies or threats? Seems to me all of 100+ families are more than happy with how things go, Most of fams in top 10 aren't even related anyhow if it's not some secret deals and no one is trying to kill other one. They make dreadful long version without even being interesting to watch, with no twists or even wars lol. Only thing Top fams are doing is sitting, waiting for something (god knows what). Number of online players keep dropping and game keeps dying, but it's not lackeys who are killing it, it's this "new style". This is 1st version I see with shitload of fams where n one is trying to shoot. So what are you guys waiting? DIG to rank up again and tell you who next target is? Or Leviticus and Gambino to figure out who they like least of current fams?
+1

newstyle=bloods pussy style
ElIndio Germany (12:51:34 - 17-10)
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Johnny at 11:13:18 on 17/10:
1st of all your Tops/Members (TheAlbanian?) coming to curse us and threat us cuz we shot Venture, then outraging on OB News with same problems. [...]

TheAlbanian never has been a crew member of Venture. We even told him to stop posting here as all he did was harming us. At no point his thoughts represented the thoughts of Venture crew.
Johnny Serbia (11:30:47 - 17-10)
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Anonymous at 07:10:07 on 17/10:
Making wars still is fun. You just have to adept to the new style. You simply have to adjust the style, or way to shoot. If you don't then yes you become a spectator fam like Krays was this round.

Just watch and learn. i.e. Presidential had a nice round with lots of wars. And thats a new fam, so not based on well known player/members base.

If you stick to your old ways of playing this game, you get wiped out, like you proved earlier.

New style is "Hope you are not main target, and then hit back when no one is watching on you". That's not even a style. Most of families have no clue what they're doing, they need someone else to tell them what to do. Look at Top 10 families, you seriously wanna tell me they planed anything? Or that any big and important war that happened was their organization?
Then again do these fams even have enemies or threats? Seems to me all of 100+ families are more than happy with how things go, Most of fams in top 10 aren't even related anyhow if it's not some secret deals and no one is trying to kill other one. They make dreadful long version without even being interesting to watch, with no twists or even wars lol. Only thing Top fams are doing is sitting, waiting for something (god knows what). Number of online players keep dropping and game keeps dying, but it's not lackeys who are killing it, it's this "new style". This is 1st version I see with shitload of fams where n one is trying to shoot. So what are you guys waiting? DIG to rank up again and tell you who next target is? Or Leviticus and Gambino to figure out who they like least of current fams?
Johnny Serbia (11:13:50 - 17-10)
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Anonymous at 11:13:18 on 17/10:
ElIndio at 09:35:22 on 17/10:
If we waited 3 months for our first war, you waited 2,5 months (to GET shot). Now slow down.
Ok, yes we waited as whole game did. May I remind you that Vinci (with Marazzino and Vaffanculo) was only fam in top 10 with less than 8 bloods on start of version. If lets say we blooded at least some of fams who offered us that, who would later shoot us, war on start would not even happen. We made mistake by thinking game can be played with 5 bloods.

ElIndio at 09:35:22 on 17/10:
Caliente came to us and offered us to organize a ceasefire (Thanks) and we didn't decline. However in the end a ceasefire with Vincitori was not agreed on.
1st of all your Tops/Members (TheAlbanian?) coming to curse us and threat us cuz we shot Venture, then outraging on OB News with same problems. Then Kurosawa coming to tell us to stop shooting Venture or they'll kill us. Then Marazzino coming to tell us if we stop shooting Venture war will stop. We did decline every offer, cuz once you shoot our bloods you don't come to tell us "Ooops sorry mate, It just happened :/" Even after all other families stopped shooting you Vinci continued with what we had. Until we ran out of bullets completely.

This was me ^^ :p
Anonymous (11:13:18 - 17-10)
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ElIndio at 09:35:22 on 17/10:
If we waited 3 months for our first war, you waited 2,5 months (to GET shot). Now slow down.
Ok, yes we waited as whole game did. May I remind you that Vinci (with Marazzino and Vaffanculo) was only fam in top 10 with less than 8 bloods on start of version. If lets say we blooded at least some of fams who offered us that, who would later shoot us, war on start would not even happen. We made mistake by thinking game can be played with 5 bloods.

ElIndio at 09:35:22 on 17/10:
Caliente came to us and offered us to organize a ceasefire (Thanks) and we didn't decline. However in the end a ceasefire with Vincitori was not agreed on.
1st of all your Tops/Members (TheAlbanian?) coming to curse us and threat us cuz we shot Venture, then outraging on OB News with same problems. Then Kurosawa coming to tell us to stop shooting Venture or they'll kill us. Then Marazzino coming to tell us if we stop shooting Venture war will stop. We did decline every offer, cuz once you shoot our bloods you don't come to tell us "Ooops sorry mate, It just happened :/" Even after all other families stopped shooting you Vinci continued with what we had. Until we ran out of bullets completely.
PannaJunk Tokelau (10:44:38 - 17-10)
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By all the messages you post Tibz, I asume you make a fam next vers and do it 100 times better ?...
ElIndio Germany (09:35:22 - 17-10)
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Tibz at 00:33:09 on 17/10:
Anonymous at 20:46:20 on 16/10:
So after venture lost 90% of their brugs in that Vinci/pres/liberta counter they reranked and were the first fam to counter on #1 liberta a few weeks later changing that entire war making the attackers the defenders, that was lame tho prolly?
Beforehand: Why you quote a text if you won't comment on it anyway? Neither does all you describe touch the basis condition the author sets in his argument, nor do you elaborate on it.

Tibz at 00:33:09 on 17/10:
You're forgetting the Vinci/pres/liberta collective whom countered on Venture were already beat up from 3 weeks of near constant warfare in a defending, and attacking for their bloods capacity.
I salute your move of countering. However the real counter against Venture came by #5 positioned Liberta.

Tibz at 00:33:09 on 17/10:
Whereas Venture had been cutting off the blood circulation in their hands by sitting on them for going on 3 months.
If we waited 3 months for our first war, you waited 2,5 months (to GET shot). Now slow down.

Tibz at 00:33:09 on 17/10:Vinci fought till their fight was in a debt! What followed is a total contrast and insult to such masterful gameplay - with 'spectator' fams taking the reins and making 3.2 the most lethargic and un-spirited version in a very long time!
This "un-spirited" Venture shot several times till their last bullets. I myself stood empty in bullets as the GF 2 times. You calling us "spectator" because we didn't join the first big series of war. Now also tell me what good reason we would have to join such a struggle where the end is not to be seen clear enough for us? We won't drive against the wall by purpose just because you want it.
Yet , we took "the reins" and searched for our own action, while we just as good could have wait more, what would keep us off from that?

Tibz at 00:33:09 on 17/10:
-Venture we're also calling for a ceasefire well before your reported 90% loss :D
Caliente came to us and offered us to organize a ceasefire (Thanks) and we didn't decline. However in the end a ceasefire with Vincitori was not agreed on.

Tibz at 00:33:09 on 17/10:Should we not mention their numerous none shoot deals ?
Please enlighten me about our numerous none shoot deals, because I know only of 1, which was with Asabi (now in Purgatory), which we made right in the start of the version because of problems we had in 3.1.

Tibz at 00:33:09 on 17/10:
So, you sum it up pretty nice Anonymous, Lame is the exact word associated with Ventures gameplay but they are very much not alone!
Now why the outpooring of hate? :)
Anonymous (07:10:07 - 17-10)
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Soph at 00:50:12 on 17/10:
Instead of arguing about spectator fams, we should consider possible solutions to the problem. What would help create less spectator families? Killing Skill which is implemented on deathmatch could be a consideration. People who shoot have the advantage over spectators due to killing skill going up every kill and therefore can still gain the advantage over spectators.

Another problem is the fact offline people are stronger than online one's, this makes people cower away in their villa's instead of activily participating in wars whenever they can. I would think a "Sandman" kill(killing someone in their sleep) would be easyer than killing someone out in the open. But at the moment it's quite the contrary, it's devastating to see that all your hard work and ranking resulted in dying in a lackey's accounts backfire.. just because he's offline (I've seen it happen a lot this version).

Making a war should be fun, since we all play this game since we love war(We all do right?). The planning and careful execution of a war resulting in a victory is something a family can be happy about and reinforces their confidence and self-efficacy.

Making wars still is fun. You just have to adept to the new style. You simply have to adjust the style, or way to shoot. If you don't then yes you become a spectator fam like Krays was this round.

Just watch and learn. i.e. Presidential had a nice round with lots of wars. And thats a new fam, so not based on well known player/members base.

If you stick to your old ways of playing this game, you get wiped out, like you proved earlier.
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (06:21:35 - 17-10)
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Rambo at 04:43:55 on 17/10:
Redspeert at 03:26:15 on 17/10:
TL;DR.

You lippin off retard?

Advance towards me brethren, and we shall engage in a thumbfight.
Rambo (04:43:55 - 17-10)
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Redspeert at 03:26:15 on 17/10:
TL;DR.

You lippin off retard?