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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Kapow (09:22:45 - 23-06)
Solstice at 09:17:18 on 23/06:
Yeah, but Trump is actually cool.
Kapow at 08:41:39 on 23/06:
Well people still support Trump dont they?
Jimbo at 20:28:58 on 22/06:
people are being nice to us? :o
Anonymous at 20:08:06 on 22/06:
+2 Congratz!
Anonymous at 18:21:35 on 22/06:
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Spy at 17:17:26 on 22/06:
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
people are being nice to us? :o
Yeah, but Trump is actually cool.
Solstice (09:17:18 - 23-06)
Kapow at 08:41:39 on 23/06:
Well people still support Trump dont they?
Jimbo at 20:28:58 on 22/06:
people are being nice to us? :o
Anonymous at 20:08:06 on 22/06:
+2 Congratz!
Anonymous at 18:21:35 on 22/06:
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Spy at 17:17:26 on 22/06:
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
people are being nice to us? :o
Yeah, but Trump is actually cool.
MurderInc (09:09:14 - 23-06)
Kapow at 08:41:39 on 23/06:
Well people still support Trump dont they?
Jimbo at 20:28:58 on 22/06:
people are being nice to us? :o
Anonymous at 20:08:06 on 22/06:
+2 Congratz!
Anonymous at 18:21:35 on 22/06:
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Spy at 17:17:26 on 22/06:
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
people are being nice to us? :o
Kapow (08:41:39 - 23-06)
Jimbo at 20:28:58 on 22/06:
people are being nice to us? :o
Anonymous at 20:08:06 on 22/06:
+2 Congratz!
Anonymous at 18:21:35 on 22/06:
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Spy at 17:17:26 on 22/06:
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
people are being nice to us? :o
mmm (08:27:06 - 23-06)
Anonymous at 08:22:28 on 23/06:
Funny to see how people lick siberia these days,
Timeless/Forlenza Your really giving up the HOF?
Game dies more and more. Wont think V5 will make any difference.
To bad game were fun back in the old days, now its lick lick lick and reset..
Funny to see how people lick siberia these days,
Timeless/Forlenza Your really giving up the HOF?
Game dies more and more. Wont think V5 will make any difference.
To bad game were fun back in the old days, now its lick lick lick and reset..
Please state your name and the reason of your butthurt please.
Anonymous (08:22:28 - 23-06)
Funny to see how people lick siberia these days,
Timeless/Forlenza Your really giving up the HOF?
Game dies more and more. Wont think V5 will make any difference.
To bad game were fun back in the old days, now its lick lick lick and reset..
Timeless/Forlenza Your really giving up the HOF?
Game dies more and more. Wont think V5 will make any difference.
To bad game were fun back in the old days, now its lick lick lick and reset..
feist (21:29:51 - 22-06)
Jimbo at 20:28:58 on 22/06:
people are being nice to us? :o
Anonymous at 20:08:06 on 22/06:
+2 Congratz!
Anonymous at 18:21:35 on 22/06:
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Spy at 17:17:26 on 22/06:
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
people are being nice to us? :o
Jimbo (20:28:58 - 22-06)
Anonymous at 20:08:06 on 22/06:
+2 Congratz!
Anonymous at 18:21:35 on 22/06:
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Spy at 17:17:26 on 22/06:
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
people are being nice to us? :o
Anonymous (20:08:06 - 22-06)
Anonymous at 18:21:35 on 22/06:
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Spy at 17:17:26 on 22/06:
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Anonymous (18:21:35 - 22-06)
Spy at 17:17:26 on 22/06:
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
+1
congrats Sib and Col, well deserved
Anonymous (17:48:16 - 22-06)
Anonymous at 15:09:23 on 22/06:
its wrong, Anarchy had balls to shoot siberia always. Also anarchy had balls to shoot siberia and other bloods directly when they asked their friends to shoot anarchy.
Anonymous at 14:04:22 on 22/06:
Siberia+ killed em a bunch of times, that's losing the #1 position aswell.
Anonymous at 08:48:55 on 22/06:
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
Anonymous at 07:44:57 on 22/06:
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
DeathBase at 07:00:16 on 22/06:
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
Justy at 22:10:02 on 21/06:
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
its wrong, Anarchy had balls to shoot siberia always. Also anarchy had balls to shoot siberia and other bloods directly when they asked their friends to shoot anarchy.
Spy (17:17:26 - 22-06)
Congratulations Siberia on a well-deserved win this version, same goes for Colossal; Well played.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
To the other fams still up and talking big, don't forget; All you did was follow and participate in wars you were not in any danger in.
Anonymous (15:18:05 - 22-06)
Justy at 22:10:02 on 21/06:
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
Emiliano Zapata says ; better that we should die on our feet rather than live on our knees.
keep licking for next versions.
Anonymous (15:09:23 - 22-06)
Anonymous at 14:04:22 on 22/06:
Siberia+ killed em a bunch of times, that's losing the #1 position aswell.
Anonymous at 08:48:55 on 22/06:
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
Anonymous at 07:44:57 on 22/06:
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
DeathBase at 07:00:16 on 22/06:
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
Justy at 22:10:02 on 21/06:
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
its wrong, Anarchy had balls to shoot siberia always. Also anarchy had balls to shoot siberia and other bloods directly when they asked their friends to shoot anarchy.
siberialogic (14:04:41 - 22-06)
salvatrucha fam page :
T WAS A GREAT VERSION FOR US! WE DID AGAIN MORE THAN EXPECTED THIS VERSION AS FAMILY! I APPRECIATE EVERYONE, WHO HELPED ME, WHO PLAYED WITH ME IN OUR FAMILY! THANKS! YOU ALL DESERVE BEST ALL SALVATRUCHA SOLDIERS, MY FELLAS! AND I WANT TO SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR BOSS-BROTHER SIBERA AND MY MENTORS AND BEST FRIENDS TIMELESS!
well with timeless and salvatrucha fam pages
we can see that the retards exposed themselves as being a pact which is controlled by siberia.
We all knew that yes, but they"siberia" kept denying.
But now their dogs keep admitting :(
T WAS A GREAT VERSION FOR US! WE DID AGAIN MORE THAN EXPECTED THIS VERSION AS FAMILY! I APPRECIATE EVERYONE, WHO HELPED ME, WHO PLAYED WITH ME IN OUR FAMILY! THANKS! YOU ALL DESERVE BEST ALL SALVATRUCHA SOLDIERS, MY FELLAS! AND I WANT TO SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR BOSS-BROTHER SIBERA AND MY MENTORS AND BEST FRIENDS TIMELESS!
well with timeless and salvatrucha fam pages
we can see that the retards exposed themselves as being a pact which is controlled by siberia.
We all knew that yes, but they"siberia" kept denying.
But now their dogs keep admitting :(
Anonymous (14:04:22 - 22-06)
Anonymous at 08:48:55 on 22/06:
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
Anonymous at 07:44:57 on 22/06:
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
DeathBase at 07:00:16 on 22/06:
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
Justy at 22:10:02 on 21/06:
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
Anonymous (13:37:14 - 22-06)
Anonymous at 13:12:59 on 22/06:
Fuck Anarchy really they are just bunch of retards. We all know how they have been playing, i'm not going to dive into that shit again, just cut the crap and stop speaking highly of those fucks, they arent any different than what you have been blaming really. Lastly, they couldnt go up as Anarchy this version cause they were busy with controling their side fams, hello(Gravano, Unfuckable(ineffable), and other shits).
Anonymous at 11:01:53 on 22/06:
Im not anarchy member but they must really hurt some ppl here that they always talking about them... to the winner gratz o/ next time stop mass pacting and have more fun...
Anonymous at 08:48:55 on 22/06:
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
Anonymous at 07:44:57 on 22/06:
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
DeathBase at 07:00:16 on 22/06:
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
Justy at 22:10:02 on 21/06:
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
Im not anarchy member but they must really hurt some ppl here that they always talking about them... to the winner gratz o/ next time stop mass pacting and have more fun...
So what? This pact was better or what??? Whats gonna happen next version? Siberia colossal forlenza merciless again a pact and some asslicker famiöies like yigidos will be the dogs and it start again we are no pact :)
Anonymous (13:12:59 - 22-06)
Anonymous at 11:01:53 on 22/06:
Im not anarchy member but they must really hurt some ppl here that they always talking about them... to the winner gratz o/ next time stop mass pacting and have more fun...
Anonymous at 08:48:55 on 22/06:
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
Anonymous at 07:44:57 on 22/06:
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
DeathBase at 07:00:16 on 22/06:
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
Justy at 22:10:02 on 21/06:
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
We are, as Timeless won't shoot our bloods as others's expected for HOF! It was a great version for us and we thank to Colossal - Siberia and Forlenza, which are stayed with us in this version. We are honoured for being in like this pact.
Apprecaited brother. Like we all said this is not anarchy pact. We wont shoot our bloods for Hof here. Thank you Siberia, Colossal and Timeless. We all did great. ( Sorry Joellin i hope next time will be better ) PEAKYS inside YIGIDOS inside NAZDROVIAN mofos inside uh where the fuck is "forever blacksea" team :) kidding BLACKSEA inside, next time old Jannisary? well, we will see :)
ps: critycal is gay, but we accepted him like that. we are not sexist ppl.
after marazzino made you "kepaze" (pathetic), now you started to lick some ass*es? very good deathbase,
after 10 years, u are still same. asslicker, weak, and big mouth. but in the end just a loser..
and Timeless, how covard you are, we are all see this idiots worse than forlenza :)
If we add some extra points in these, If you read the game as well, you can see that Anarchy has never lost #1 Position while they play. So they should have shot for something else... I guess someone need a brain surgery to have a better capacity at least to see something straight uhh...
PS: If I know correct, Anarchy doesn't even play this round, why do you guys still call their name in every action of yours ? seemed interesting to me
Im not anarchy member but they must really hurt some ppl here that they always talking about them... to the winner gratz o/ next time stop mass pacting and have more fun...