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seiffus (02:30:31 - 11-11)
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Anonymous at 21:14:41 on 10/11:
tunning at 15:51:16 on 09/11:
So who are fams that are going to rank this version , can anyone tell me ?
all pacts fams will come but in new famnames like pactfamone,pactfamtwo, and so on..
Up to us m8.
Anonymous (02:22:37 - 11-11)
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Muteki is our friend @johngotti ;)
Anonymous (23:14:10 - 10-11)
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tunning at 15:51:16 on 09/11:
So who are fams that are going to rank this version , can anyone tell me ?
I'm sorry but we are not allowed to tell you. We all swore to keep it secret. Sorry ;-(
Anonymous (21:14:41 - 10-11)
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tunning at 15:51:16 on 09/11:
So who are fams that are going to rank this version , can anyone tell me ?
all pacts fams will come but in new famnames like pactfamone,pactfamtwo, and so on..
Anonymous (21:13:05 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 15:43:45 on 10/11:
seiffus at 18:02:19 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 17:49:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 13:40:10 on 09/11:
This game is totally ruined for fair players sadly, yes maybe scripting is not the biggest cheating problem in this game right now, but still scripting is faster then lackeys and can do bust outs without putting any time and effort into it.

But what about sharing accounts (using tv for example) when you sleep in the night or are not at home someone else is not supposed to do group crimes for you or bust out for you on your account. Only 1 people should play on a account.

What about funding with dupes or with inactive players that just rank to fund active players (and don't buy bullets or bodyguards themselves only forward there money to others), accounts are being funded with 40+ million just by 1 person.

We can't ignore all the cheating that is going on in this game. It's about getting advantage above fair players with cheating, without putting the time and effort into it to create a good account like non cheaters do. As allready stated by someone else in a post there should be hard actions against cheaters, hard punishments, bigger change to be caught, this will discourage cheating.

If you want to attract new players, keep fair players from not retiring in this game something has to be done against the big amount of cheaters. Yes also game changes are necessary to save the game, but without creating a level playing field with like 98% fair players this game is just an cheating anarchy.

+1
Another +1

PLS someone give this text to the crew +1

+1
but the crew are to incompitent to understand :)
johngotti Turkey (18:18:22 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 12:34:05 on 10/11:
Hey Johngöt,

Can you help me a little bit?

You and your cheater crew friends and and...

Can you make it until monday? To get a family at 16 ot time :)

Help us to win 3Dcs after thank you cheater crew o/


I'm not ranking...
Anonymous (16:32:46 - 10-11)
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Busters with 10k bo's, nice voucher mate.
Anonymous (15:43:45 - 10-11)
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seiffus at 18:02:19 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 17:49:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 13:40:10 on 09/11:
This game is totally ruined for fair players sadly, yes maybe scripting is not the biggest cheating problem in this game right now, but still scripting is faster then lackeys and can do bust outs without putting any time and effort into it.

But what about sharing accounts (using tv for example) when you sleep in the night or are not at home someone else is not supposed to do group crimes for you or bust out for you on your account. Only 1 people should play on a account.

What about funding with dupes or with inactive players that just rank to fund active players (and don't buy bullets or bodyguards themselves only forward there money to others), accounts are being funded with 40+ million just by 1 person.

We can't ignore all the cheating that is going on in this game. It's about getting advantage above fair players with cheating, without putting the time and effort into it to create a good account like non cheaters do. As allready stated by someone else in a post there should be hard actions against cheaters, hard punishments, bigger change to be caught, this will discourage cheating.

If you want to attract new players, keep fair players from not retiring in this game something has to be done against the big amount of cheaters. Yes also game changes are necessary to save the game, but without creating a level playing field with like 98% fair players this game is just an cheating anarchy.

+1
Another +1

PLS someone give this text to the crew +1
Anonymous (13:03:43 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 12:34:05 on 10/11:
Hey Johngöt,

Can you help me a little bit?

You and your cheater crew friends and and...

Can you make it until monday? To get a family at 16 ot time :)

Help us to win 3Dcs after thank you cheater crew o/
Haha i start to smell butthurt results around.
Anonymous (12:34:05 - 10-11)
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Hey Johngöt,

Can you help me a little bit?

You and your cheater crew friends and and...

Can you make it until monday? To get a family at 16 ot time :)

Help us to win 3Dcs after thank you cheater crew o/
Keeley (02:02:43 - 10-11)
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seiffus at 01:59:29 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 21:01:03 on 09/11:
Welcome to another round 4.92. still not 5.
Let`s play it wise and try not to spoil this version.
yes lets
seiffus (01:59:29 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 21:01:03 on 09/11:
Welcome to another round 4.92. still not 5.
Let`s play it wise and try not to spoil this version.
Anonymous (21:01:03 - 09-11)
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Welcome to another round 4.92. still not 5.
seiffus (18:02:19 - 09-11)
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Anonymous at 17:49:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 13:40:10 on 09/11:
This game is totally ruined for fair players sadly, yes maybe scripting is not the biggest cheating problem in this game right now, but still scripting is faster then lackeys and can do bust outs without putting any time and effort into it.

But what about sharing accounts (using tv for example) when you sleep in the night or are not at home someone else is not supposed to do group crimes for you or bust out for you on your account. Only 1 people should play on a account.

What about funding with dupes or with inactive players that just rank to fund active players (and don't buy bullets or bodyguards themselves only forward there money to others), accounts are being funded with 40+ million just by 1 person.

We can't ignore all the cheating that is going on in this game. It's about getting advantage above fair players with cheating, without putting the time and effort into it to create a good account like non cheaters do. As allready stated by someone else in a post there should be hard actions against cheaters, hard punishments, bigger change to be caught, this will discourage cheating.

If you want to attract new players, keep fair players from not retiring in this game something has to be done against the big amount of cheaters. Yes also game changes are necessary to save the game, but without creating a level playing field with like 98% fair players this game is just an cheating anarchy.

+1
Another +1
Anonymous (17:49:12 - 09-11)
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Anonymous at 13:40:10 on 09/11:
This game is totally ruined for fair players sadly, yes maybe scripting is not the biggest cheating problem in this game right now, but still scripting is faster then lackeys and can do bust outs without putting any time and effort into it.

But what about sharing accounts (using tv for example) when you sleep in the night or are not at home someone else is not supposed to do group crimes for you or bust out for you on your account. Only 1 people should play on a account.

What about funding with dupes or with inactive players that just rank to fund active players (and don't buy bullets or bodyguards themselves only forward there money to others), accounts are being funded with 40+ million just by 1 person.

We can't ignore all the cheating that is going on in this game. It's about getting advantage above fair players with cheating, without putting the time and effort into it to create a good account like non cheaters do. As allready stated by someone else in a post there should be hard actions against cheaters, hard punishments, bigger change to be caught, this will discourage cheating.

If you want to attract new players, keep fair players from not retiring in this game something has to be done against the big amount of cheaters. Yes also game changes are necessary to save the game, but without creating a level playing field with like 98% fair players this game is just an cheating anarchy.

+1
tunning Albania (15:51:16 - 09-11)
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So who are fams that are going to rank this version , can anyone tell me ?
MurderInc Austria (15:00:49 - 09-11)
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Anonymous at 14:49:15 on 09/11:
MurderInc at 11:55:30 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 08:01:27 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 19:49:32 on 08/11:
MurderInc at 21:53:24 on 07/11:
Anonymous at 20:00:03 on 07/11:
Redspeert at 17:53:09 on 07/11:
Anonymous at 16:52:00 on 07/11:
Redspeert at 16:40:10 on 07/11:
Scriptin' in 2015?

You're atleast 1.5 year late.

Yes still a lot of scripting is going on in 2015 , scripting is still widely spread among the .com community (yes many many more use lackeys then scripts, but still scripts are commonly used. Yes you have lackeys, but apperently a lot of people still find it necessary to have fast car nicks and do bust outs with a script. Admins act please against these cheaters. We want a nice way on the pillory next version.

There is a reason that rankscript website is still in the air, it is still making great profit otherwise it would be out the air long time ago.

If you think scripts are fast these days, you better think again (unless you got access to a private script that got very few users). Scripts are slower than lackeys at doing car/crimes and at busting they are completley useless.

Oh and I saw you mentioned rs.net...you better try it before you talk about it. If you want to promote to thief when lackey users promote to soldier, then rs.net is for you.

As I said, you are 1.5 year late. Rs.net stopped working in early 2014, and it has not become better since then.


Ok guys i cant givr you my name or else but im a programmer so... Its easy to make a script for omerta and really i use my own script... For few vers... And yeah until omerta crew realize that we can keep using script and cheat until we need a better script ;)
It's not easy to develop an OCR for the captchas at all. That's fairly advanced and CS-heavy coding. Definitely not something you'd be doing just for your own private script, unless you're insane and value your own work at $0/hour. You'd probably get a cheaper solution renting a rankslave in some third-world country.

If you're gonna use typers instead, you'll end up with something like rs that's way too slow to compete with manual busters.

You still don't understand the point do you why scripters should be punished hard? Ofcourse scripts are slower then manual busting. Ofcourse doing things manual is better, but what about the guys and girls that are not manually playing and just put on a script to do bust outs or car nicks, yes it will cost you decent amount of money, but still you are doing nothing and are getting bust outs or faster car nicks why other players are ranking manual and putting time and effort in to achieve it.

In which world are bust/crime/car scripts slower than manual?

Trust me, like every good peasent I was manual before lackeys, so I know that even hardcore nerd manual is not nearly as fast as scripting.
You have to type captchas manually, and you don't get them right 100% of the time - at least I did not. Once you are done typing those, there's a pretty high chance that your target had been busted out already.

Now explain again how manual is faster than a customised script.
You act like everyone has their little customized script. Spoilers: NO ONE DOES. It's a huge dev investment no one would make just for their own private script. And seeing how not even the big public scripts have a working OCR atm, it doesn't even seem to be profitable for scripts with their userbase, meaning you better sit down and relax while some kid in a sweatshop in the third-world country of your choice types the code after 5-10 seconds.

So explain again how one goes about getting a "customized" script that is somehow faster than manual ranking.

Scratch the word customized, and replace it with a "mere" script.
Spoiler: Atremo and the other script which name I have forgotten were way faster than any manual human.
That was the main point. I know reading comprehension.
I know it's nice to set up a straw man to beat "everybody uses a script these days", but the point was and is, that this myth "manual is faster than script" is just that.

Is there another straw man you like to set up?
Like Redspeert pointed out, rs and other scripts haven't been fast in over a year. There's no working OCR anymore, after the last code update, so they have to rely on manual typers. I never said they were slow before that, just the opposite - but what does that have to do with the current situation? When I say "manual is faster than script" I obviously talk about the current situation, why would you think anything else? And why would anyone make decisions based on how things were over a year ago?
Anonymous (14:49:15 - 09-11)
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MurderInc at 11:55:30 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 08:01:27 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 19:49:32 on 08/11:
MurderInc at 21:53:24 on 07/11:
Anonymous at 20:00:03 on 07/11:
Redspeert at 17:53:09 on 07/11:
Anonymous at 16:52:00 on 07/11:
Redspeert at 16:40:10 on 07/11:
Scriptin' in 2015?

You're atleast 1.5 year late.

Yes still a lot of scripting is going on in 2015 , scripting is still widely spread among the .com community (yes many many more use lackeys then scripts, but still scripts are commonly used. Yes you have lackeys, but apperently a lot of people still find it necessary to have fast car nicks and do bust outs with a script. Admins act please against these cheaters. We want a nice way on the pillory next version.

There is a reason that rankscript website is still in the air, it is still making great profit otherwise it would be out the air long time ago.

If you think scripts are fast these days, you better think again (unless you got access to a private script that got very few users). Scripts are slower than lackeys at doing car/crimes and at busting they are completley useless.

Oh and I saw you mentioned rs.net...you better try it before you talk about it. If you want to promote to thief when lackey users promote to soldier, then rs.net is for you.

As I said, you are 1.5 year late. Rs.net stopped working in early 2014, and it has not become better since then.


Ok guys i cant givr you my name or else but im a programmer so... Its easy to make a script for omerta and really i use my own script... For few vers... And yeah until omerta crew realize that we can keep using script and cheat until we need a better script ;)
It's not easy to develop an OCR for the captchas at all. That's fairly advanced and CS-heavy coding. Definitely not something you'd be doing just for your own private script, unless you're insane and value your own work at $0/hour. You'd probably get a cheaper solution renting a rankslave in some third-world country.

If you're gonna use typers instead, you'll end up with something like rs that's way too slow to compete with manual busters.

You still don't understand the point do you why scripters should be punished hard? Ofcourse scripts are slower then manual busting. Ofcourse doing things manual is better, but what about the guys and girls that are not manually playing and just put on a script to do bust outs or car nicks, yes it will cost you decent amount of money, but still you are doing nothing and are getting bust outs or faster car nicks why other players are ranking manual and putting time and effort in to achieve it.

In which world are bust/crime/car scripts slower than manual?

Trust me, like every good peasent I was manual before lackeys, so I know that even hardcore nerd manual is not nearly as fast as scripting.
You have to type captchas manually, and you don't get them right 100% of the time - at least I did not. Once you are done typing those, there's a pretty high chance that your target had been busted out already.

Now explain again how manual is faster than a customised script.
You act like everyone has their little customized script. Spoilers: NO ONE DOES. It's a huge dev investment no one would make just for their own private script. And seeing how not even the big public scripts have a working OCR atm, it doesn't even seem to be profitable for scripts with their userbase, meaning you better sit down and relax while some kid in a sweatshop in the third-world country of your choice types the code after 5-10 seconds.

So explain again how one goes about getting a "customized" script that is somehow faster than manual ranking.

Scratch the word customized, and replace it with a "mere" script.
Spoiler: Atremo and the other script which name I have forgotten were way faster than any manual human.
That was the main point. I know reading comprehension.
I know it's nice to set up a straw man to beat "everybody uses a script these days", but the point was and is, that this myth "manual is faster than script" is just that.

Is there another straw man you like to set up?
Anonymous (13:40:10 - 09-11)
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This game is totally ruined for fair players sadly, yes maybe scripting is not the biggest cheating problem in this game right now, but still scripting is faster then lackeys and can do bust outs without putting any time and effort into it.

But what about sharing accounts (using tv for example) when you sleep in the night or are not at home someone else is not supposed to do group crimes for you or bust out for you on your account. Only 1 people should play on a account.

What about funding with dupes or with inactive players that just rank to fund active players (and don't buy bullets or bodyguards themselves only forward there money to others), accounts are being funded with 40+ million just by 1 person.

We can't ignore all the cheating that is going on in this game. It's about getting advantage above fair players with cheating, without putting the time and effort into it to create a good account like non cheaters do. As allready stated by someone else in a post there should be hard actions against cheaters, hard punishments, bigger change to be caught, this will discourage cheating.

If you want to attract new players, keep fair players from not retiring in this game something has to be done against the big amount of cheaters. Yes also game changes are necessary to save the game, but without creating a level playing field with like 98% fair players this game is just an cheating anarchy.
MurderInc Austria (11:55:30 - 09-11)
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Anonymous at 08:01:27 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 19:49:32 on 08/11:
MurderInc at 21:53:24 on 07/11:
Anonymous at 20:00:03 on 07/11:
Redspeert at 17:53:09 on 07/11:
Anonymous at 16:52:00 on 07/11:
Redspeert at 16:40:10 on 07/11:
Scriptin' in 2015?

You're atleast 1.5 year late.

Yes still a lot of scripting is going on in 2015 , scripting is still widely spread among the .com community (yes many many more use lackeys then scripts, but still scripts are commonly used. Yes you have lackeys, but apperently a lot of people still find it necessary to have fast car nicks and do bust outs with a script. Admins act please against these cheaters. We want a nice way on the pillory next version.

There is a reason that rankscript website is still in the air, it is still making great profit otherwise it would be out the air long time ago.

If you think scripts are fast these days, you better think again (unless you got access to a private script that got very few users). Scripts are slower than lackeys at doing car/crimes and at busting they are completley useless.

Oh and I saw you mentioned rs.net...you better try it before you talk about it. If you want to promote to thief when lackey users promote to soldier, then rs.net is for you.

As I said, you are 1.5 year late. Rs.net stopped working in early 2014, and it has not become better since then.


Ok guys i cant givr you my name or else but im a programmer so... Its easy to make a script for omerta and really i use my own script... For few vers... And yeah until omerta crew realize that we can keep using script and cheat until we need a better script ;)
It's not easy to develop an OCR for the captchas at all. That's fairly advanced and CS-heavy coding. Definitely not something you'd be doing just for your own private script, unless you're insane and value your own work at $0/hour. You'd probably get a cheaper solution renting a rankslave in some third-world country.

If you're gonna use typers instead, you'll end up with something like rs that's way too slow to compete with manual busters.

You still don't understand the point do you why scripters should be punished hard? Ofcourse scripts are slower then manual busting. Ofcourse doing things manual is better, but what about the guys and girls that are not manually playing and just put on a script to do bust outs or car nicks, yes it will cost you decent amount of money, but still you are doing nothing and are getting bust outs or faster car nicks why other players are ranking manual and putting time and effort in to achieve it.

In which world are bust/crime/car scripts slower than manual?

Trust me, like every good peasent I was manual before lackeys, so I know that even hardcore nerd manual is not nearly as fast as scripting.
You have to type captchas manually, and you don't get them right 100% of the time - at least I did not. Once you are done typing those, there's a pretty high chance that your target had been busted out already.

Now explain again how manual is faster than a customised script.
You act like everyone has their little customized script. Spoilers: NO ONE DOES. It's a huge dev investment no one would make just for their own private script. And seeing how not even the big public scripts have a working OCR atm, it doesn't even seem to be profitable for scripts with their userbase, meaning you better sit down and relax while some kid in a sweatshop in the third-world country of your choice types the code after 5-10 seconds.

So explain again how one goes about getting a "customized" script that is somehow faster than manual ranking.