Indd almost as noob as failing twice to hijack.

It's pathetic how people are still bashing schopenhauer for SH"ing!

You can only go SH for 9 hours so he was out plenty of times. What did Liberta in particular do? Shoot 1 bullet and then...wait...wait..wait..do nothing.

The shooters were all noobs and he took advantage of that, well played to him.

You are wrong on one point.

Most of blooding happened before 1st war, so you can't blame KA for it. Before wars happened you already had few fams in top 10 who had 8+ bloods.
Admins just make set up, players decide how will game go. You can't blame admins for lack of wars, it's up to players to shoot. And in past no KA or "overpowered" alliances stopped wars from happening.

You overestimate those changes. Most of this situation is purely to blame to the tops and how they evolved from dumb idiots into experienced tops. See that I mean? Besides, it's kinda like those fixed dc prices, once a few fams succesfully blood half of omerta and get away with it other fams try to blood as much as they can as well. Vicious circle as Moesasji pointed out. Do not forget, most admins don't do shit and it's all up to devs to make things happen. Lose a good dev and you get this shit, a visual 300% cap and nothing happens to KA to make it relevant. I'm unsure if they have anyone really able onboard right now.

Back to the point though, it seems those fams with up to 5 bloods seemed to do a lot worse than all of those with 9+ bloods that are still alive. Hmm...

He made a spot on comment regardless, although I do believe schopenhauer 'only' spent about 200 mil on SH and maybe 100 mil on bg's. Considering he has a private casino courtesy of his own fam it was no surprise to see him back in top 10 bullets only a few days after he stopped hiding. It's not a very brave strategy and nearly all his brugs died, but he clearly wanted to survive and succeeded at that.

I think you can estimate he spent about 200 mil on bullets and is recollecting money to SH any potential next war... well, I saw he was pretty proud about inkilling a thief that was inactive the other day. Everyone has priorities. ;)

In honesty I have nothing against him or his family but they were slaughtered that time. If a strong account is willing to spend (read: has) 500 million to survive attacking fams pretty much have to equal that sum in costs and since schopenhauer is still alive you can make your own assumptions about that.

ps. Even if he sends 20% of the Detroit Roulette profits to other members, he is still no doubt one of the wealthiest people in the game. (notice how I made it seem like sharing 20% is a lot?)

True that it doesn't happen in all fams (the fams that have fun and shoot regularly), but it happens in a lot of them...


@Katorze: Because 1 you don't know before you join offc and 2 there are a loot of noobs out there.

So why don't all the players join families which are doing it right? Why do these turdfamilies keep growing, I do see some families doing it right in the top 10, yet they can't do anything about the whole situaiton.

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Agroki got revived it seems, any idea why ?

i can tell you for sure that doesn't happen in all fams..but ok it's your opinion lol
and i really don't think that is a reason not to shoot..if it is..it's not selfish..i's just stupid! lol

There has been a trend latest versions that makes tops of fams pack themselves up with a million bullets becuz they feel they are necessary in a war to determine the outcome. The lower brugs don't get anything of that money anymore and have almost no bullets.

I mean, there are almost no bulletmoney or bulletdeals going to lower brugs, no, they're all going to the top.

Consequence: Less wars cuz tops need month to stack up a million again. And then they get shot like agroki with 2x60k and bye bye 800k bullets :W


Tops should divide more to the shooters so you can shoot more often and are a lot stronger.



Selfishness has become a way bigger factor lately, and that has nothing to do with the KA, that's just a way to cover it up...

indeed!!

once upon a time there were wars on omerta...bla bla bla

now people can expand and expand and expand, so why bother shooting, there is room anyway, a war for a HQ or a spot was a good reason back then

Well the last versions there was alot of complains/whining towards Barafranca management but we see less and less wars all due to the management?

Less talk more shooting....fams just sit and wait. I believe its the fams who make versions boring, GO SHOOT.

We shoudl campaign for the old city map family system to return.

That required the fams in one city to actually talk with each other, discuss who had what spots, promoted actual fam growth instead of sisfams and prevented there being 200 fams.

There is no logical reason why it was removed and this abomination of a system was implemented.

In the current system there is no incentive to "clean" cities as overpopulated cities arent hindering anyones growth.

Mass bloods are needed because everyone else mass bloods, viscious circle ;) take out the hr's/suspected succs in a sries of well timed attacks wich can be done with 5 min shooting times. and fam is down. the low bulet lackey accs are of no concern. with good planning this is doable.

the only need to mass blood to this ridiculous extent is because everyone else does it.

Its for a part the truth, but you should ask why the mass blooing etc hapend. Because Admins made some fucking stupid changes. Like fucking up the KA this made is necessary to have a shitload of bloods to kill your enemies.

So the really problem is a combi of both bad attitude of some players and some so dumb decisions of admins. To fixed this admins shoul listen to the players more, tobad like 99,99% of the admins are to damn stubborn to admit they where wrong. So they are not going to listen to players. And for that reason you can blame admins.

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My point is, it is so easy to bash admins and it is done ever so much but rarely you hear vioces in the same tones directed at the top/player base that are in the same way responsible for fucking up this game. 3fam+ alliances with 8+ high fam bloods? :') And then BLAME ka and such for tge long times between wars and the seemingly neverending wars.

That is what makes it so pathetic.

I/we were talking about how admins are fucking up the game, the mass-blooding is something we, the players can do something about. That's what should do with it ;) Mr Anonymous!