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ReBorN United States (19:11:06 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 19:02:02 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 18:43:30 on 30/05:
Sollid at 18:39:49 on 30/05:
You all should just stop and try to tell people there is no pact. Just let them believe there is one. Since that'll mean they won't try tactical wars, but just grab a bunch of families of the so called pact and shoot and die by the bloods of those families :P You guys are telling them to shoot tactical so they make a chance, why are you helping them? xD

Im starting to feel bad for these guys :\

Its like going to a doctor when your 10 years old. He says "Your going to die one day, everyone does." so the little boy decides to stop living. :\

Dont give up!

Probably the same doctor that gave you a lollipop, if you never tell your parents, or the police...

Seriously cut the bullshit. Hacker admitted the pact infact existed. ANd I forgot in your world, there also was no ddos...
Probably you will even deny that Righelli - Conflict - Vinci - Liberta - Messina/Marangello/Vaffanculo (sorry I don't know how to call them). Finished last version together peacefully. :')
Whatever your childhood doctor gave you to forget, please share your meds with us.

ROFL ... again ... STOP .... CRYING ...

Who cares if Hacker admits theres a pact or not? Who cares if there IS a pact? Who cares what the price of tea in China is?! It makes no difference! You guys think there is this HUGE conspiracy to keep one side down and finish the version with 72 families when in reality, these bloodships were formed out of necessity because of opportunistic families that would strike only after the big families killed each other off. (Which, is a legitimate way to play, dont get me wrong, but so is working closely with your bloods).

The whole point Ive been trying to make all day (and everyone keeps missing it surprisingly [/sarcasm]) is that if the families that had died in the beginning kept playing, the "pact" wouldnt be alive right now. Even if you launched one of your infamous unorganized wars, Conflict, Righelli, and Lucchese would all be down right now.

But thats ok ... keep playing like this and the "pact" will keep putting stars on their profiles.

Im done ... c ya :w
Anonymous (19:02:02 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 18:43:30 on 30/05:
Sollid at 18:39:49 on 30/05:
You all should just stop and try to tell people there is no pact. Just let them believe there is one. Since that'll mean they won't try tactical wars, but just grab a bunch of families of the so called pact and shoot and die by the bloods of those families :P You guys are telling them to shoot tactical so they make a chance, why are you helping them? xD

Im starting to feel bad for these guys :\

Its like going to a doctor when your 10 years old. He says "Your going to die one day, everyone does." so the little boy decides to stop living. :\

Dont give up!

Probably the same doctor that gave you a lollipop, if you never tell your parents, or the police...

Seriously cut the bullshit. Hacker admitted the pact infact existed. ANd I forgot in your world, there also was no ddos...
Probably you will even deny that Righelli - Conflict - Vinci - Liberta - Messina/Marangello/Vaffanculo (sorry I don't know how to call them). Finished last version together peacefully. :')
Whatever your childhood doctor gave you to forget, please share your meds with us.
Mikee Netherlands (18:53:19 - 30-05)
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btw, since 2.0 (when i came here first) ppl have been complaining about bloodlines / pacts etc.

you f00ls will always complain, and it will never be good

imo this version has been pretty good, all sides have suffered bigtime..

if this game is so extremely gay/fuckedup, just stop playing instead of crying all day long
Anonymous (18:48:49 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 18:38:29 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 18:29:23 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 18:19:40 on 30/05:
I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p

it's clearly your side responsible...without your pact other fams would never team up together.
if your side lost 1st battle some fams would probably retire like in 3.2...conflict went down very early...didn't come back...vinci went down, didn't come back...and still I don't see point in playing this game like this...one side or other side wins...bah...it's not worth playing at all. Reranking? waste of money...that would make only brando happy...

On the contrary ... the families that are in the pact now have been fighting each other since before Brando even started fighting scripts! It wasnt until the "other side" started teaming up that these guys started working together.

Someone said it best earlier ...

All these families used to fight each other constantly. For example, when Conflict was weak from killing Affinitas, a group of families would swoop in (after months of doing nothing), kill Conflict, then claim victory for themselves. It happened a couple of versions in a row. After such lame tactics, these guys just didnt want to see that happen anymore.

But, like I said earlier, pacts go all the way back since the inception of this game. Until EVERYONE (not just "our side") changes their gamestyle, it will never change.

and that will kill this game...before we always had at least 3rd party in the game...and some independent fams who would suicide on one of the main fams and make some impact on the game. you can call those fams noobs, like some ppl said for samagono but those fams were making difference sometimes. now everybody play safe including your pact.
my fam used to die and we would rank up again. and we tried to play our game...now it's not possible anymore if we have to team up with bunch of fams we dislike just to have some kind of chance to survive or make some impact...there's no more 3rd way as it used to be
Since 2.1 (18:43:39 - 30-05)
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People still bringing up THE ddos thing? Get fucking real.. With or without some downtime you would have been raped anyway.

We all know u guys suck at shooting and organizing. You guys are only busy cheating, duping and sending ingame messages to female accounts and try to convince them to marry you...

And if things go bad you always blame it on other people instead of looking to yourself. And Then THE next thing you Will do is play THE racism card. And Again and Again and Again ... Ooh and somewhere in between you Will bring up that THE ottomans ruled blalablabla.. Fucking grow up and stop bringing stuff from THE past..

Whats next? Dutch people Will say they ruled in THE 1600"s and had slave colonies everywhere? Yeee lets play THE history card! My country was so much better 300 years before christ blalablabla

Grow up shitface
ReBorN United States (18:43:30 - 30-05)
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Sollid at 18:39:49 on 30/05:
You all should just stop and try to tell people there is no pact. Just let them believe there is one. Since that'll mean they won't try tactical wars, but just grab a bunch of families of the so called pact and shoot and die by the bloods of those families :P You guys are telling them to shoot tactical so they make a chance, why are you helping them? xD

Im starting to feel bad for these guys :\

Its like going to a doctor when your 10 years old. He says "Your going to die one day, everyone does." so the little boy decides to stop living. :\

Dont give up!
ReBorN United States (18:40:45 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 18:38:29 on 30/05:
Mikee at 18:32:54 on 30/05:
Reborn, when will you finally realize these discussions are useless and hopeless... this is like explaining a 1 year old boy how to whipe his ass..

impossible with such failzors

once again...I didn't even play this version nor I intend to play next...I'm just saying that this playstyle sucks. No strategy needed whatsoever...no tops needed when everybody knows what will happen. I find that boring...

Then play the game and come up with a new style that can counter this one. That is the brilliance behind this game (sometimes) ... the politics and the strategizing. ;)

And idd Mikee ... it is. I just wanted my opinion known (and Im bored at work today, so what better to do then to argue on OB News? xD)
Sollid (18:39:49 - 30-05)
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You all should just stop and try to tell people there is no pact. Just let them believe there is one. Since that'll mean they won't try tactical wars, but just grab a bunch of families of the so called pact and shoot and die by the bloods of those families :P You guys are telling them to shoot tactical so they make a chance, why are you helping them? xD
Lazygun (18:38:50 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 18:19:40 on 30/05:
I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

What if you decided to attack just Affinitas with those numbers? What if you decided to attack just Supremazia with those numbers?

Some of our strategies are pretty obvious although I wont spell them out for you. There were a couple of times this version we had to come up with different ways to get certain families down. People need to think outside of the box a bit instead of just insisting all families must be down at the exact same time!

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p

it has always been this way (also in versions like 2.4 and even before), the figures are superfluous imo. Every family that is on top has lots of friends, one reason is because they shot their main enemies to hell and the other reason is to improve the family's game position. Players mentality is something which is very hard to change. Maybe you should allow more families into the game again to keep the game alive any longer? Personally I think changes to the game play environment are more efficient than being dependent of players mentality...
ReBorN United States (18:38:29 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 18:29:23 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 18:19:40 on 30/05:
I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p

it's clearly your side responsible...without your pact other fams would never team up together.
if your side lost 1st battle some fams would probably retire like in 3.2...conflict went down very early...didn't come back...vinci went down, didn't come back...and still I don't see point in playing this game like this...one side or other side wins...bah...it's not worth playing at all. Reranking? waste of money...that would make only brando happy...

On the contrary ... the families that are in the pact now have been fighting each other since before Brando even started fighting scripts! It wasnt until the "other side" started teaming up that these guys started working together.

Someone said it best earlier ...

All these families used to fight each other constantly. For example, when Conflict was weak from killing Affinitas, a group of families would swoop in (after months of doing nothing), kill Conflict, then claim victory for themselves. It happened a couple of versions in a row. After such lame tactics, these guys just didnt want to see that happen anymore.

But, like I said earlier, pacts go all the way back since the inception of this game. Until EVERYONE (not just "our side") changes their gamestyle, it will never change.
Anonymous (18:38:29 - 30-05)
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Mikee at 18:32:54 on 30/05:
Reborn, when will you finally realize these discussions are useless and hopeless... this is like explaining a 1 year old boy how to whipe his ass..

impossible with such failzors

once again...I didn't even play this version nor I intend to play next...I'm just saying that this playstyle sucks. No strategy needed whatsoever...no tops needed when everybody knows what will happen. I find that boring...
Mikee Netherlands (18:32:54 - 30-05)
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Reborn, when will you finally realize these discussions are useless and hopeless... this is like explaining a 1 year old boy how to whipe his ass..

impossible with such failzors
Anonymous (18:29:23 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 18:19:40 on 30/05:
I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p

it's clearly your side responsible...without your pact other fams would never team up together.
if your side lost 1st battle some fams would probably retire like in 3.2...conflict went down very early...didn't come back...vinci went down, didn't come back...and still I don't see point in playing this game like this...one side or other side wins...bah...it's not worth playing at all. Reranking? waste of money...that would make only brando happy...
ReBorN United States (18:19:40 - 30-05)
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I keep hearing this "40%" number running around and it got me wondering how accurate that was. So I looked on trabot and put together some statistics from the day before the first big war:

I was surprised to find that the "40%" was very close ... but not correct.

Total alive:

776 Bruglione's
693 Chief's
373 Local Chief's

Main families of the "pact":

271 Bruglione's (34.92%)
208 Chief's (30.01%)
100 Local Chief's (26.80%)

Even if you include all the Bloods of the "pact" families that have shot for the "pact" at one point or another, you get these numbers:

316 Bruglione's (40.72%)
240 Chief's (34.63%)
124 Local Chief's (33.24%)

Total number of high ranks (LC+) just in the main "pact":

579 LC+ (31.43%)

Total number including Bloods:

680 LC+ (36.91%)

Now, if there are two sides, who is the other side? I figured a good place to start would be the attacking families from the first major war. Here are their statistics:

326 Bruglione's (42.01%)
284 Chief's (40.98%)
182 Local Chief's (48.79%)

Total number of LC+:

792 LC+ (42.99%)

So which side is responsible for this again?

What if you decided to attack just Affinitas with those numbers? What if you decided to attack just Supremazia with those numbers?

Some of our strategies are pretty obvious although I wont spell them out for you. There were a couple of times this version we had to come up with different ways to get certain families down. People need to think outside of the box a bit instead of just insisting all families must be down at the exact same time!

I did not write my initial comments to put blame on anyone. I am simply trying to point out that if people would just keep playing this game no matter if they are Bruglione or Thief that you can turn the tide with a little bit of determination and hard work. I can tell you that if my side goes down, I wont give up that easy and simply wait for a reset.

At no point did I say I was bored. On the contrary it has been very exciting the past couple of days and I think there is still come excitement to come. Im was just simply trying to give a pep-talk to the other side. :p
Anonymous (17:29:05 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 17:22:49 on 30/05:
bla bla big bad pact, bla bla 40% of high ranks, quit whining little girls.

If there is a pact why did righelli shot affinitas when they shot their bloods?

You created a pact when you try to shoot 10 fams with no relation to eachother, only dumb people try such a stupid thing, and only even dumber people come here crying about pacts afterwards.

Whine away, cry away complain abot ddos attacks that fucked both sides, yet you blame conflict with no proof whatsoever, whine away little girls.

I wonder if people really believe that lucchese would defend liberta, or if righelli would defend vincitory, or if memento would defend Supremazia etc, fams that have no relation to the others, one thing is if 3 or 4 fams call their bloods for a mutual shooting that helps everyone, other is defending non blooded fams.

You choose to attack 10 fams and when you obviously fail, you claim they are a pact and that they have 40% of high ranks, i would suggest you get smarter tops who actually can think wars and shoot who they need too, instead of mindless shooting against half omerta.

In the meantime, keep crying and whining here, im sure that will help you out !


lol...dumbass....10 fams without relation to each other?:') hacker admitted that there was a pact...wtf are you talking about. btw...I don't play this version...if I played I would try to be in the 3rd party in this game but that ain't possible...I'm not whining cause some fams got shot...I'm whining cause this game became boring and pointless
Anonymous (17:22:49 - 30-05)
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bla bla big bad pact, bla bla 40% of high ranks, quit whining little girls.

If there is a pact why did righelli shot affinitas when they shot their bloods?

You created a pact when you try to shoot 10 fams with no relation to eachother, only dumb people try such a stupid thing, and only even dumber people come here crying about pacts afterwards.

Whine away, cry away complain abot ddos attacks that fucked both sides, yet you blame conflict with no proof whatsoever, whine away little girls.

I wonder if people really believe that lucchese would defend liberta, or if righelli would defend vincitory, or if memento would defend Supremazia etc, fams that have no relation to the others, one thing is if 3 or 4 fams call their bloods for a mutual shooting that helps everyone, other is defending non blooded fams.

You choose to attack 10 fams and when you obviously fail, you claim they are a pact and that they have 40% of high ranks, i would suggest you get smarter tops who actually can think wars and shoot who they need too, instead of mindless shooting against half omerta.

In the meantime, keep crying and whining here, im sure that will help you out !
Anonymous (17:15:31 - 30-05)
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ReBorN at 17:08:21 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 17:03:36 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 16:43:18 on 30/05:
yamaguchi at 16:28:18 on 30/05:
mr. reborn After DDos attack why people rank again? they lost hopes after 1st attack and noone came back seriously.. if that wouldnt happen you werent exist thats true, but u cannot wait people come back after that , and if you have trustable bloods standing you try to come back also, like lucc,messina,vinci did..

shortly : Pact didnt lose control of game since start, so noone came back thats it, sadly you cannot see it, i thought u know something about game, keep following conflict otherwise you die very fast

And my point is ... what if they did come back? Would Conflict, Righelli, Lucchese be up right now? If so, for how many more days?

why bother to come back? some fams tried, but they were shot down quickly. maybe they should rank up to see another ddos attack?...you made this 2 sided...and I don't wanna play this way cause it's all predictable. rank up...big shootout...one side wins...end of the version. it's like playing texas hold'em where all go all-in in the first hand...few minutes of thrill and that's it.

"big shootout...one side wins...end of the version."

And thats the point, it doesnt have to be like that.

wtf are you talking about? you have pacted 40% of the highranks...there can be only 2 sides. and even if all other fams ranked up again they would have to stick together to shoot your pact down and it's not easy to rank up again when all your bloods are down and other side has control.
FlowzZ Albania (17:10:03 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 16:55:59 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 15:07:40 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 10:27:00 on 30/05:
Anonymous at 09:22:54 on 30/05:
Imo ranking speed is fine. What separates the great families from the good ones is the perseverance to continue ranking even after you die once.

Levi & Temp have come back, sure they arent hugely powerful but they have the ability in this ka to do some decent damage for their size.

Lucchese & Vinci & Liberta, both dead twice, both still ranking to come back.

But if u bitch n whine n complain n shout how ur all retired here every time u die it gets boring... n how exactly do u hope to achieve anything like that?

Living a whole version is good. Dying, coming back and still winning is a bigger achievement imo. And in this KA anything is possible, Kernek proved that.


Muahaha, ranking for what purpose? To get gangbanged by the non-existing 40%+ blood circle?
Sorry, if you feel bored. You guys created a blood circle that without retired players (on both sides) makes 40%+ of the accounts, now you play alone in your lil' sandbox and feel bored.
See you next version, when hopefully this big faggotry has come to an end.

You people are unbelievable. You get beat so all you do is bitch, moan, and give up. If the tables were turned and the other pact would have won the first war and Conflict+ would have given up (which they wouldnt have) would you still have the same mentality? Of course not! Youd be saying the same thing ... rank back up!

Here is a little fact for you, if the people who died in the first war would have ranked back up from the start instead of taking their toys and going home like a 4 year old, Conflict, Bruinsma, and Righelli would not be the top families right now.

Do you expect to always be able to knock down a wall with one big swing of a hammer? No, you do it in multiple little swings, chipping away bit by bit.

Supremazia = Down
Affinitas = Down
Vincitori = Down
Armada = Down
Lucchese = Badly damaged
Conflict = Weak
Righelli = Weak

What more do you want?

I blame the admins for ALOT of bullshit thats happened in this game and I believe they share a small part of the responsibility for why the gameplay is the way it is atm (although the majority of the responsibility belongs to the players) however, this game is not meant to be a shootout to see who the winner will be leading to a reset in 2 months time. This game was never supposed to reset every couple of months. The original vision for this game was to be never ending where 1 family can be killed and then restart and kill the family that killed them. With this KA, that is possible.

But apparently you have 4 year olds that play this game. Everytime they die they throw temper tantrums and make excuses about why they failed. If you restart and make a new account, you can turn this direction of the game around. Of course its not as easy as it is when everyone has to start from scratch, but its not impossible!

The fact of the matter is, pacts will not go away. Theyve been getting bigger and bigger since this game was launched. There has ALWAYS been some kind of pact and now has grown to the size of 2 distinct sides. Lets be realistic here, even if the side of Conflict+ decides to play "on their own" and not support each other what will the other side do? Of course they will hit Conflict as soon as they can. Then what do the rest of the families do? Well, of course they would hit back because the probability that one of them would be next is 99.9%! And if it was the other way around, you can not tell me the other families would not do the same thing.

This is the day and age of the gangbang. You have to adapt and overcome. Dont get me wrong, I long for the days when wars were 1v1. THAT was fun! But the second Conflict does a 1v1 war, 7 other families will jump on them cause they are weak. And people do this all in the name of the all powerful omerta victory!

The bottom line is, things arent changing around here any time soon. If your going to whine and cry for reset every time you die then ffs just leave this game and dont come back because that mentality is more damaging then the gangbang wars.

And just for the record, a few versions ago, there was a certain pact that not only killed every family that was a threat (and never turned on each other) and then went as far as killing every family that allowed those who died to re-rank in their families as well as any famliless high rank. There was NO way to restart at all. So what did we do? Took to guerrilla warfare. We ranked in secret and hijacked as many of those families as we could ... and it was damn fun! So even under the most oppressive controlling families you can still make a difference and have some fun in the process.

With this KA, anything is possible ... take advantage of it.

It is not intended to be a one big shoot out game, indeed. But the way your family and the fams of this faggotry aka. pact play it, it turned that way. And no, there's no way to talk yourself out of this. You made a 40%+ pact. Means half accounts are already blooded. Don'T give me that, you ahve to attack on the edges bullshit. If we started shooting some of those affinitas bloods, even RIghelli opened fire. And there you ahve it, one big shoot out. Again you feel bored now in your sandbox, your problem. Two fractions, who wins the shoot out emerges victorious. Congratulations you won it, now don't complain about boredom. You buiilt a fence around your lil sandbox, now you can play alone in it. DDosflict attacking the server was not very helpful in terms of motivation neither. You did everything you could to stay alive now deal with it.

Thing is no matter how many times someone tries to explain the situation and how this game was led into 'one big shoot out game' you always come with the same whiny excuses and all , and you are just making people repeat the same stuff over and over again , no it is not good and either fun to play a gangbanging game but before bashing any 'pact' fam you better criticize those low quality fams who always played the same way and always waited the "ccce vs affi" war and then just clean the left outs and now those fams blooded and its such a big deal Y THIS GAME IS SO HARD NOW I NEED STRATEGY TO SURVIVE BUT I NEVER NEEDED ONE BEFORE <- yeh i know you read this one before , now you either need to be so retarded to just allow another action like that lower your skills and confidence about this game or you just stepup and say no to that .
ReBorN United States (17:08:21 - 30-05)
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Anonymous at 17:03:36 on 30/05:
ReBorN at 16:43:18 on 30/05:
yamaguchi at 16:28:18 on 30/05:
mr. reborn After DDos attack why people rank again? they lost hopes after 1st attack and noone came back seriously.. if that wouldnt happen you werent exist thats true, but u cannot wait people come back after that , and if you have trustable bloods standing you try to come back also, like lucc,messina,vinci did..

shortly : Pact didnt lose control of game since start, so noone came back thats it, sadly you cannot see it, i thought u know something about game, keep following conflict otherwise you die very fast

And my point is ... what if they did come back? Would Conflict, Righelli, Lucchese be up right now? If so, for how many more days?

why bother to come back? some fams tried, but they were shot down quickly. maybe they should rank up to see another ddos attack?...you made this 2 sided...and I don't wanna play this way cause it's all predictable. rank up...big shootout...one side wins...end of the version. it's like playing texas hold'em where all go all-in in the first hand...few minutes of thrill and that's it.

"big shootout...one side wins...end of the version."

And thats the point, it doesnt have to be like that.
Vetto (17:04:51 - 30-05)
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A mistake: were 31 wars.